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LAW & ORDER
MISBEGOTTEN
01-09-2008 10:00PM
A SCIENTIST’S CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCH IS EXPOSED AFTER A MYSTERIOUS PACKAGE EXPLODES. An explosion hospitalizes a pregnant guard, leading Detectives Ed Green (Jesse L. Martin) and Cyrus Lupo (Jeremy Sisto) to a Gen-Tech scientist whose lab is housed in the same building where the bomb is delivered. When the detectives discover the injured security guard had been one of the doctor’s research subjects, ADAs Michael Cutter (Linus Roache) and Connie Rubirosa (Alana De La Garza) suspect the security guard’s brother-in-law. Also starring: Sam Waterston, S. Epatha Merkerson, Linus Roache, and Alana De La Garza.
Show Cast: S. Epatha Merkerson, Jesse L. Martin, Sam Waterston, Alana De La Garza, Jeremy Sisto, Linus Roache
Full Version: 18.3 Misbegotten
Does anyone know the name of the actor who played the doctor in tonights episode (Misbegotten). The doctor that is looking for the gay gene? It's driving me nuts...
Thanks!
Thanks!
I've beendigging myself. we picture him younger and with glasses and as a nerdy character on a sitcom.
It was driving me crazy too. With a little help from a friend, we figured out it's Grant Shaud, who played Miles Silverberg on "Murphy Brown."
Phew!
Phew!
That's right! Thanks, it was driving me crazy!
Hated this episode. I hate when they skip a story and try to teach a moral lesson. I figured out the "it's not wrong to be gay" storyline early on. I don't think its wrong to be gay - but I hate the preachy style of these stories.
Totally agree. Hate the preachy episodes.
QUOTE (MemphisDave @ Jan 10 2008, 12:04 AM) 
Hated this episode. I hate when they skip a story and try to teach a moral lesson. I figured out the "it's not wrong to be gay" storyline early on. I don't think its wrong to be gay - but I hate the preachy style of these stories.
this episode was very bad. Did they take a lesson from the writers over at L&O:CI to just put the "bad guys" in a room with their lawyers and have the lawyers say nothing? very poor writing. I also agree with the preachy style, at the end it was just talking heads,
Didn't think it was all that bad---it was a great message but they overdid it WAY too much throughout the episode.
Did like this quote:
VAN BUREN: Tell me you were tying your shoe when he did that.
ED: I was tying my shoe when he did that.
Speaking of which---I think Lupo stealing the guy's blackberry was a bit ridiculous as well...
It wasn't HORRIBLE but it wasn't great either.
Did like this quote:
VAN BUREN: Tell me you were tying your shoe when he did that.
ED: I was tying my shoe when he did that.
Speaking of which---I think Lupo stealing the guy's blackberry was a bit ridiculous as well...
It wasn't HORRIBLE but it wasn't great either.
When the writer's strike is over can we get the "old" writers to come in and give the new ones a lesson or two?
I too rather dislike the preachy theme episodes that are more often a staple of L&O-SVU than L&O - they are so ham-handed and obviously contrived.
This episode was going okay, though the Blackberry email trick was cheap, right up to the tortured plot twist that you could see coming a mile away as soon as Grant Shaud's character uttered the words: the fetus has the gene for homosexuality...if graphics had popped up and the words became visible in a cartoon callout with flashing arrows pointing to it, it couldn't have been more obvious that this was an IMPORTANT PLOT ELEMENT! So, a couple of scenes later when the new DA, Cutter, has the light bulb go off over his head as he "recalls" the testimony couldn't have felt more contrived.
And, puleeeze, the last minute alibi witness??
Certainly, the detectives took a statement about the defendant's whereabouts during the relevant time periods prior to arresting him for the crime.
Certainly, if the defendant had been with the sister-in-law's father having dinner he would have produced that information to avoid being arrested.
So, the DA could have impeached the father-in-law in a "New York minute" if he actually took the stand.
The only way this dodge works is if there is some other, deeper, darker reason why the defendant and the FIL didn't disclose this dinner and evening together before - oh say, maybe they were lovers and the FIL was deep in the closet. Oops, sorry...off on a plot fantasy there.
Back to the episode...
Certainly, the defendant's attorney knew where the defendant was at the time the bomb was left for pickup - he would have disclosed that to his attorney early on if he was innocent. If he wasn't innocent his attorney would know that too (if only by omission of information exculpating the client). So, in order for the defendant's attorney to call the FIL to the stand she would have to be suborning perjury. Bad move, writers, one of the L&O "rules" is that the attorneys don't suborn perjury unless that action is a plot element in and of itself (the episode is about getting the attorney).
Sorry writer-guys, you flunk the L&O legal logic quiz in this episode. Go back and watch ALL the episodes, start at the beginning...get up to speed with all the rest of us armchair, amateur lawyers and detectives and write something that is true to the history of the series and honors the creative genius that exists night after night in re-runs on cable. Otherwise, this may be the last season of L&O.
I too rather dislike the preachy theme episodes that are more often a staple of L&O-SVU than L&O - they are so ham-handed and obviously contrived.
This episode was going okay, though the Blackberry email trick was cheap, right up to the tortured plot twist that you could see coming a mile away as soon as Grant Shaud's character uttered the words: the fetus has the gene for homosexuality...if graphics had popped up and the words became visible in a cartoon callout with flashing arrows pointing to it, it couldn't have been more obvious that this was an IMPORTANT PLOT ELEMENT! So, a couple of scenes later when the new DA, Cutter, has the light bulb go off over his head as he "recalls" the testimony couldn't have felt more contrived.
And, puleeeze, the last minute alibi witness??
Certainly, the detectives took a statement about the defendant's whereabouts during the relevant time periods prior to arresting him for the crime.
Certainly, if the defendant had been with the sister-in-law's father having dinner he would have produced that information to avoid being arrested.
So, the DA could have impeached the father-in-law in a "New York minute" if he actually took the stand.
The only way this dodge works is if there is some other, deeper, darker reason why the defendant and the FIL didn't disclose this dinner and evening together before - oh say, maybe they were lovers and the FIL was deep in the closet. Oops, sorry...off on a plot fantasy there.
Back to the episode...
Certainly, the defendant's attorney knew where the defendant was at the time the bomb was left for pickup - he would have disclosed that to his attorney early on if he was innocent. If he wasn't innocent his attorney would know that too (if only by omission of information exculpating the client). So, in order for the defendant's attorney to call the FIL to the stand she would have to be suborning perjury. Bad move, writers, one of the L&O "rules" is that the attorneys don't suborn perjury unless that action is a plot element in and of itself (the episode is about getting the attorney).
Sorry writer-guys, you flunk the L&O legal logic quiz in this episode. Go back and watch ALL the episodes, start at the beginning...get up to speed with all the rest of us armchair, amateur lawyers and detectives and write something that is true to the history of the series and honors the creative genius that exists night after night in re-runs on cable. Otherwise, this may be the last season of L&O.
i liked the episode, a little overdone w\ the gay message. but i love sisto. so i'll keep watching
Had the self-rightious indignation of an old Dragnet episode
Baby Boom
http://maulofamerica.blogspot.com/2008/01/baby-boom.html
Baby Boom
http://maulofamerica.blogspot.com/2008/01/baby-boom.html
I missed this episode as well, which dealt with the injury of the security guard, I felt somewhat indignated about this when that scientist had used her as a test subject, isn't that a little dangerous?
Hated the episode.. the new prosecutor needs to take some lessons.. not emotional atall... personally hate that Jack's in the back seat for now...
What a brilliant self-parody!
When I started watching this the first time, I started thinking I had had one too many beers. The writing was trite, the actors were over the top...and then I realized, this must be a shot across the bow about the importance of writers. I don't know if Wolf was in on it or not, but this episode is definitely a parody.
How am I so sure? If you still have the episode recorded, look at the date on the first few "bong-bongs". Tuesday, September 11. You think this was an oversight?
Look at the episode again in this light. The number of red herrings in this show would choke Godzilla; some of the reactions from the actors looked as authentic as Milton Berle's "spit takes"; and give me a flippin' break, the plot revolves around "the gay gene"????
They pawned us, folks. And it was really pretty funny.
When I started watching this the first time, I started thinking I had had one too many beers. The writing was trite, the actors were over the top...and then I realized, this must be a shot across the bow about the importance of writers. I don't know if Wolf was in on it or not, but this episode is definitely a parody.
How am I so sure? If you still have the episode recorded, look at the date on the first few "bong-bongs". Tuesday, September 11. You think this was an oversight?
Look at the episode again in this light. The number of red herrings in this show would choke Godzilla; some of the reactions from the actors looked as authentic as Milton Berle's "spit takes"; and give me a flippin' break, the plot revolves around "the gay gene"????
They pawned us, folks. And it was really pretty funny.
Whatever....Kevin Rankin ROCKED!!! He was the defendant and he was NOT over doing it. His perfomance was extremely understated. Real. The episode as a whole was o.k, nothing great. Nothing wrong with the acting on that episode for sure. Tom Guiry playing Rankin's brother, their father, etc.......all awesome job.
QUOTE (gailkay @ Jan 10 2008, 04:21 PM)
When the writer's strike is over can we get the "old" writers to come in and give the new ones a lesson or two?
I believe what you're talking about is scabbing. If so, that would be a misconception on your part. No writing has been done in the midst of the strike. The other Guilds of America would not allow it. Law & Order was merely delayed, in case the strike would run as long as it has.
Actually, you have made the erroneous assumption that I thought the "new" writers were the result of the strike - and that isn't correct. I am very aware that the scripts were written pre-strike and that the season start was delayed until January.
When I refered to the "new" writers I was making the assumption (perhaps erroneous - I would have to go back and research the writers for the first decade of the show) that they were "new" BEFORE the writers strike and that the writers from a decade ago have moved on.
At any event - it had nothing to do with the writer's strike and everything to do with what I consider to be a decline in the quality of the the writing and plot development in the show as demonstrated in this episode. If this was written by the same "old" writers then they phoned in this script and forgot to pick up their logic as they came in the door.
When I refered to the "new" writers I was making the assumption (perhaps erroneous - I would have to go back and research the writers for the first decade of the show) that they were "new" BEFORE the writers strike and that the writers from a decade ago have moved on.
At any event - it had nothing to do with the writer's strike and everything to do with what I consider to be a decline in the quality of the the writing and plot development in the show as demonstrated in this episode. If this was written by the same "old" writers then they phoned in this script and forgot to pick up their logic as they came in the door.
Ah. Well, it's fasir to assume some of the writers have changed, just like the cast. I doubt that it would be enough to claim a generation shift, though. Whatever changes had to be gradual. If there is/was a decline in quality, we can only hope it will be corrected.
From NBC Universal Media Village
LAW & ORDER
MISBEGOTTEN
03-23-2008 9:00PM
A SCIENTIST’S CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCH IS EXPOSED AFTER A MYSTERIOUS PACKAGE EXPLODES. An explosion hospitalizes a pregnant guard, leading Detectives Ed Green (Jesse L. Martin) and Cyrus Lupo (Jeremy Sisto) to a Gen-Tech scientist whose lab is housed in the same building where the bomb is delivered. When the detectives discover the injured security guard had been one of the doctor’s research subjects, ADAs Michael Cutter (Linus Roache) and Connie Rubirosa (Alana De La Garza) suspect the security guard’s brother-in-law. Also starring: Sam Waterston, S. Epatha Merkerson, Linus Roache, and Alana De La Garza.
Show Cast: S. Epatha Merkerson, Jesse L. Martin, Sam Waterston, Alana De La Garza, Jeremy Sisto, Linus Roache
LAW & ORDER
MISBEGOTTEN
03-23-2008 9:00PM
A SCIENTIST’S CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCH IS EXPOSED AFTER A MYSTERIOUS PACKAGE EXPLODES. An explosion hospitalizes a pregnant guard, leading Detectives Ed Green (Jesse L. Martin) and Cyrus Lupo (Jeremy Sisto) to a Gen-Tech scientist whose lab is housed in the same building where the bomb is delivered. When the detectives discover the injured security guard had been one of the doctor’s research subjects, ADAs Michael Cutter (Linus Roache) and Connie Rubirosa (Alana De La Garza) suspect the security guard’s brother-in-law. Also starring: Sam Waterston, S. Epatha Merkerson, Linus Roache, and Alana De La Garza.
Show Cast: S. Epatha Merkerson, Jesse L. Martin, Sam Waterston, Alana De La Garza, Jeremy Sisto, Linus Roache
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