EJ seemed more irritated that nicole kept messing with Sami and talking bad about her. If she can make Sami even more jealous then let her fawn over EJ. I'm sure, after watching that show, it won't be reciprocated.

I think it is amazing how the Ejamies and Lumi watched the same scense and came up with totally opposite points of view when it came to EJ. Sami and Nicole hate each other; they have for a long time and it has nothing to do with EJ. It's funny how the Ejamies translated that hatred into jealousy. Sami and Nicole couldn't stay in the same room together without attempting to scratch each other's eyes out before--nothing has changed.

this is towards no one in particular:
i think it's pretty lame for very anti EJ/EJ haters to be rooting on EJ and Nicole as a couple...

it would be impossibe to even know if there are any genuine fans of the possibility Ej and Nicole-

uhh no... the hatred wasnt that intense- they even teamed up to bring Kate down at one point did they not!?
like most "soap villianesses" "vixens" they don't get along with eachother but can be in the same room without fighting unless they bait eachother... and Nicole was trying to make Sami jealous... which worked
Yes...Sami hates Nicole- but really if she wasnt jealous or atleast worried Nicole might mess with EJ (which she accidently said in that episode and covered it with "for Johnny") she wouldn't of made such a big deal about EJ working for Nicole...
there is no triangle at this point- Neither Nicole or EJ have expressed any kind of desire to be with one another... IF that happens it will be...

Agree!! And I didn't see EJ showing Nicole ANY interest other than bringing in money to support their family. I'm sure Nicole will be interested in EJ (why wouldn't she, other than him not having a trust fund anymore -that could be a turn off for her) but lets face it, she definitely enjoyed annoying Sami and making her jealous...so I wouldn't put it past her. And as long as it makes Sami FINALLY admit her true feelings for EJ...then I say bring it on Nicole! I know and trust that EJ only has eyes for Sami and he won't faulter! I just want to see Sami show EJ some LOVE already!!

ITA---I welcome Nicole because she and Sami are fun to watch, and she will do nothing but move the plot along faster in the EJ and Sami love story.

I think it is amazing how the Ejamies and Lumi watched the same scense and came up with totally opposite points of view when it came to EJ. Sami and Nicole hate each other; they have for a long time and it has nothing to do with EJ. It's funny how the Ejamies translated that hatred into jealousy. Sami and Nicole couldn't stay in the same room together without attempting to scratch each other's eyes out before--nothing has changed.

Actually, the writers translated it into jealousy by having Nicole say "If I didn't know any better, I would say your wife is jealous." It was crystal clear that jealousy was the emotion the writers were trying to convey and for those who didn't get the subtleties, they gave Nicole that line to make sure the point got across.

The characters of Nicole and EJ do not have chemistry - they are directing the scenes to show EJ indifferent towards her. He doesn't hate her - if that were the case, it would show passion and that's not where they are going with it. He is in love with Sami and that hasn't changed regardless of what you believe about how Sami feels about him. It was made clear through the episodes that if you mess with Sami, you mess with EJ. He's going to prove himself to Sami by being the first and only man to ever take on and bury Nicole. Lucas wasn't smart enough to outwit Nicole - Sami was but she never had any help. With EJ by her side, Nicole doesn't stand a chance!


So Sami getting angry has nothing to do with being called a **** and every other dig/snide remark of Nicole's. Get real! Even when the two of them were working together, the claws were always out. When Lucas comes back, I can see EJ and Nicole teaming up to break them up with the help of Kate; in the process, I see them finding a romantic connection.

They are setting this storyline up perfectly - there will be some misunderstood scenes where Sami thinks EJ is falling for Nicole but then there will be that wonderful scene where Sami overhears EJ threatening Nicole telling her that he loves Sami and only Sami and he always will.

So Sami getting angry has nothing to do with being called a **** and every other dig/snide remark of Nicole's. Get real! Even when the two of them were working together, the claws were always out. When Lucas comes back, I can see EJ and Nicole teaming up to break them up with the help of Kate; in the process, I see them finding a romantic connection.

They are setting this storyline up perfectly - there will be some misunderstood scenes where Sami thinks EJ is falling for Nicole but then there will be that wonderful scene where Sami overhears EJ threatening Nicole telling her that he loves Sami and only Sami and he always will.

this is towards no one in particular:
i think it's pretty lame for very anti EJ/EJ haters to be rooting on EJ and Nicole as a couple...

it would be impossibe to even know if there are any genuine fans of the possibility Ej and Nicole-

Agree!! And I didn't see EJ showing Nicole ANY interest other than bringing in money to support their family. I'm sure Nicole will be interested in EJ (why wouldn't she, other than him not having a trust fund anymore -that could be a turn off for her) but lets face it, she definitely enjoyed annoying Sami and making her jealous...so I wouldn't put it past her. And as long as it makes Sami FINALLY admit her true feelings for EJ...then I say bring it on Nicole! I know and trust that EJ only has eyes for Sami and he won't faulter! I just want to see Sami show EJ some LOVE already!!

Actually, the writers translated it into jealousy by having Nicole say "If I didn't know any better, I would say your wife is jealous." It was crystal clear that jealousy was the emotion the writers were trying to convey and for those who didn't get the subtleties, they gave Nicole that line to make sure the point got across.

The characters of Nicole and EJ do not have chemistry - they are directing the scenes to show EJ indifferent towards her. He doesn't hate her - if that were the case, it would show passion and that's not where they are going with it. He is in love with Sami and that hasn't changed regardless of what you believe about how Sami feels about him. It was made clear through the episodes that if you mess with Sami, you mess with EJ. He's going to prove himself to Sami by being the first and only man to ever take on and bury Nicole. Lucas wasn't smart enough to outwit Nicole - Sami was but she never had any help. With EJ by her side, Nicole doesn't stand a chance!

They are setting this storyline up perfectly - there will be some misunderstood scenes where Sami thinks EJ is falling for Nicole but then there will be that wonderful scene where Sami overhears EJ threatening Nicole telling her that he loves Sami and only Sami and he always will.

uhhh... you aren't getting it are you?
YES SAMI HATES NICOLE, and got angry because Nicole was being b.itchy... but she was also jealous and concerned for EJ- she wouldn't of made such a big about EJ taking the job if she didn't care abut EJ and was worried that Nicole would take him away from her...

and IF Lucas comes back, it's more likely that he will team up with Nicole - if the immigration thing is still going... i betcha they will both be working to sabotage Sami and EJ's work and it'll pi.ss off Sami when she finds out that Lucas worked with Nicole to thwart her... pushing her closer to EJ
but... im having serious doubts that Lucas is even coming back-

as for your comeback about how you think it's lamer for ejamis to root for Lucas not to come back? WHAT!

nice try!

so is it lame for lumi fans to be rooting for EJ to die or leave the show too?
y'know i've said Lucas would be good with Nicole...
and have joked about being paired with other people- JOKED

but i have never gone as far as to pretend to be a fan of one of those couplings, with banners and posting and bumping of "fan threads"

it would be super lame of me to do so- since i hate Lucas with a passion and don't even want him on the show
i find it quite pathetic really... i really dont even think there truely are fans of EJ and Nicole as a pairing-
just some very afraid lumi fans trying to push EJ off on anyone else-

Lucas and Nicole? Been there. Done that. Kate paid her five million to marry Lucas to break him and Sami up. Lucas hates Nicole worse than Sami. Lucas and Nicole would be a wonderful evil dream team. They have the same morals and lack of honor. They both have attempted murder as adults--not as children. They both hurt others to gain power and money. They both are self centered and don't care who they hurt as long as they get what they want. As for hating EJ, he isn't interesting enough to hate and I own a FF button.

Ah, so you admit that Sami has EJ and cares enough about having him around to not want to LOSE him?

If she hated EJ as much as some people would like to think she does, she'd JUMP at the chance to get rid of him. Also, if she hated him, she wouldn't give a darn about EJ getting deported. In fact, she'd probably do whatever she could to help the government deport him. Just face it, Sami loves EJ and the show has finally realized that they should have been promoting this supercouple right from the start!

If they seriously bring Lucas back and start up EJamicus again, the show is done. Another 2007 will send Days right to the bottom of the soap heap and it won't recover. One of the things that has helped Days recover this year is the removal of Lumi and don't think they aren't aware of that fact.

The two weeks Ejami were not shown Days ratings plummented..they went from a 2.2,to 1.9.The week after Lucas went to the pokey,and Ejami were on several times that week,ratings were 2.2..and YEAH Lucas WAS in love with Nicole,,that is why he was so crushed when he found out about Mommie Dearest deal with her.Nicole is going to cause trouble for everyone in town,,Ari said so in an interview,,that is why Nicole was brought on,to stir the pot

Lucas was in love with Carrie and Sami was in love with Austin. In fact, when Will was conceived, Lucas was probably thinking about Carrie and Sami was probably thinking about Austin.

During the time when EJ and Sami were focused on so heavily, the ratings went down the toliet.
The big "reveal" storyline that gave us the Santeen snorefest was so boring that it could have been marketed as a sleep aid.
And so what if Lucas at one time had the hots for Nicole?
Sami has had plenty of other love interests, too.

random question:
If you're just a BD/Lucas fan and not really a lumi fan- why would you want Lucas stuck in a dead end s/l with Sami

Exactly. I've always been a non-Lumi fan but I love Bryan. I want him to get his own SL without being used as Sami's shadow. After 15 years of waiting, is that too much asked?

Exactly. I've always been a non-Lumi fan but I love Bryan. I want him to get his own SL without being used as Sami's shadow. After 15 years of waiting, is that too much asked?

Lumi hurt Days?
That's revisionist history.
Wow.
It wasn't Lumi that nearly drove the show into the ground.
It was the EJ and Sami show that bored people to tears.
Now that the vets are being focused on again, the ratings have gone back up.
No surprise there.
Sami doesn't hate EJ anymore because she can see that he is trying to change.
He's also the father of her son.
She doesn't want him to be deported or for Nicole to get her claws in him, but that isn't an indication that she's slobbering over the guy, either.

Lucas was in there too-
the story wasn't about ejami falling in love it was about Lumi dealing with EJ... Lumi trying to be together during a test to see if they could hold on and stay together- which they couldn't
Lucas is taken out of the equation and the ratings go up!?

the ratings were high when ejami just met- then Lumi hooked up... and they turned EJ bad- the ratings went down...
now Lucas and Lumi are gone-
EJami is being tried again... EJ is good
AND THE RATINGS ARE UP
i love how some lumi fans try to blame 2007 on EJAMI... and pretend like it was an ejami story

Lucas was there... it was supposed to be Lumi in love
random question:
If you're just a BD/Lucas fan and not really a lumi fan- why would you want Lucas stuck in a dead end s/l with Sami

The simple fact that you and other Lumi fans don't even realize that 2007 was the Lumi show is what is a huge part of the problem. They gave you Lumi and you complained about what they MIGHT do with EJami. They never wrote EJami in 2007 but Lumi campaigns were all about preventing EJami from happening rather than promoting Lumi as a couple people actually cared about. Lumi was shoved down our throats in 2007 and EJ and Sami were written to try and get fans to hate them.

Fortunately, when you try and bring down a supercouple, efforts generally fail. The Lumi show failed because people wanted EJ and Sami to be written as the supercouple that so many knew they could be. People weren't watching because the vets had no story AND because Lumi was written as the couple the writers were pushing. This year, that has all changed. The vets have a story AND the writers are clearly pushing EJami as the rooting couple. They fixed their mistakes and it will only get better if they keep on the same course.

I assume we are all watching the same show, but they are proceeding with Ejami. They are taking it slow, especially by soap standards, but I think that is directly related to 12/29 and its controversy. Sami and her family are more and more involved with EJ, he has been accepted by practically everyone, and Sami relies on him as a father to the twins, and cares about him enough to work to keep him in the country. I'm not seeing pulling back anywhere here. The affection and sex will follow soon enough, I have a feeling, just in time for Lucas to see it. Good thing Nicole is back in town for him to go and knock one back with!

Once again, when the show was so focused on EJ and Sami, the ratings were circling the drain.
Spin it any way you want, but the fact remains.

Not everyone has to like it. Some won't. I think the ptb have reconciled that. There are lots of fans that don't mind the changing of the tides with EJ & Sami. Lucas coming back on screen doesn't categorically mean Ejami won't continue to progress. I think it will be just another element of drama.

There were lots of things going on in the last few months. Getting the vets into their stories, Ali and James getting sick, Ali with her TBL committments. I don't think anyone on the outside can really know how much the s/l shifted around because of other elements. Who knows, they may have had to do entire rewrites with James and Ali when they were out with the flu.

im not the one trying to pretend Lucas and Lumi weren't on at all during 2007 and that the tptb were trying to make ejami work as a couple...
the ratings were in the drain because they were writing Sami and Lucas in love and EJ as their obstacle-
among other dumb s/l's
like the touch the sky thing-

oh man... that blowed

what exactly am i spinning?

im not lying... Lumi and Lucas were being focused on...
they had a big campaign for their wedding- and were shoved down our throats as a happy couple-

even tho they were both fresh out of relationships

Carrie JUST dumped Lucas for Austin-

it was forced
just like how trying to push Nicole and EJ together would be forced down our throats-

if a certain fanbase is so afraid- and floods the tptb with fake fan mail about EJ and Nicole-

the ratings might plummet again-

like they did when Lumi got married and had to fight big bad EJ-

I'd sure like to see the post where I said Lumi wasn't on during 2007.
Can you link me to it?
As far as the lumi wedding goes, they couldn't even have that without Ej showing up. He even showed up on their honeymoon.
When it comes to your accusations about a "certain fanbase" flooding the ptb with mail about EJ and Nicole, do you have any proof of that either?