I am pulling for Kelly or Ali to win so before I take a bashing I wanted to put that out there first.....

It seems the show is trying to get a woman to win......... Which is fine but hear me out....... With as small as Ali is I do not see how she could drop so much weight last week. Mark's weight made sense but Ali? And Kelly made it since she still has a lot to lose so her number was automatically going to be bigger than the contestants that were close to where they want to be. Again making me think something is going on that we do not know about or cannot see....... She does not deserve to be in the top three in my opinion. She was pulled a long and made it with a lot of luck. More power to her though, she is an awesome person. But we all know that Ali, Roger and Mark should be in the top three.

If a man does win tonight I will still find it weird. Almost like they are trying to keep it interesting for the finale.

I admit, I am one of those that thinks a lot of reality shows are FAKE. Not in this shows weight loss but the scale could lie...................

Well this isnt the first time that more than one women was in the finale....I mean last season wasnt there 3? And then Kai and Heather the season on the season where Eric won...and you know what this season there is only three but in the season where Eric won it was Kai, Eric,Wylie and Heather....I wonder why only three this season...or am I missing someone?

I forgot about Kai....man was she awesome! Congrats on your weght loss by the way and thanks to your husband for serving.

I am one of the males that want a woman to win bad...I am so proud of Ali. It would be cool if she won but I feel bad for either Mark or Roger if they are not in it. Again, they DESERVE is more than Kelly.

If Kelly wins I would be even happier than if Ali does, as I had written she seems like an awesome gal.

I hear you Audi. I don't believe reality TV is fixed, but I do believe it is manipulated to a great degree.

That being said, this is one of those shows where they can manipulate the game to a certain degree (and I think they have) but at the end of the day there are elements they simply can not control. This last twist may have been an effort to do just that but ultimately, the contestants have lost the weight or not. That simply cannot be faked.

I do think this last twist gave NBC some room to effect the outcome, though it seems to me they would have been better off leaving it alone. It seems like a woman winner would guarantee a certain number of viewers would continue to watch whereas another male could lose a few of us. Never know what plans they have down the road, though so this could be a way to cause people to be hungry for an all woman game.

I think Ali has earned the right to be where she is and I am pulling for her to win. I know everyone doesn't, but I think it shows a greater personal drive to lose as much as she did at home.

Either way, as a reality TV fan, I do hope that one day the producers understand that for many of us the real "reality" of how people show up in these types of situations is enough. I am inspired by the contestants on this show, the work they do and the results they acheive...twists are not necessary for this viewer. I guess when I have my own network or production company I'll see if I'm alone in that.

I'm gonna have to disagree. I totally think Kelly has earned her spot in the finale. She has worked hard and it has not come easy. Two of the other people were voted off, so if anyone shouldn't be there-I think that would be them.

And I'm going to have to agree
Great post.

How has Kelly not 'earned' her spot if she's not the one in the bottom two?

I tend to think that the people who get voted off, had the chance to be above the yellow line the same as Kelly, but they missed it by just a little, but they had the chance to do it just as much as Kelly!

I think it's great to have two women in the finale! I am cheering for Ali!

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It did look like the producers wanted a woman to win and thats why they brought back a man and a woman, instead of the 2 top competitors that have lost the most amount of weight.
PS....here is some food for thought. How do you KNOW what the scales really said?

That's actually an argument for why Ali shouldn't get dissed for being allowed to come back. IIRC, she never fell below the line but got voted out anyway.

You know, there are conspiracy theories for most things in life. In all honesty, I don't care if the show was manipulated by a pound here or there. (I don't really think it is...) It is a wonderful, inspiring program and I think that by constantly focusing on that "What if's..." that none of us can honestly answer or be sure about, the message the show is supposed to be sending is being cheapened. I will continue to watch and love the show throughout its duration on NBC. I am grateful that it is on and has helped to change not only the lives of the contestants but the viewers as well. We are losing focus I think.

Faith.

I'll make this simple... go to blockbuster and rent the movie "Quiz Show" (directed by Robert Redford). It is based on what really happened in the 1950's and because of those events of game shows setting up the outcome or fixing the game that congress passed a law. Any show, reality show that has prizes or simply any game show, have to abide by these laws. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiz_show_scandals)

Biggest Loser makes it fair competition and the weigh ins are done in a doctor's office on a professional scale before the taping on the big scale. if they didn't, they would be forced to take their show off the air and possibly face legal action and our tax dollars will go to fund a congessional hearing.

So, i hope that solves that nasty debate.

Can your post be pinned up top?

I can't get over anybody actually believing the show is rigged in any way. The catastrophic outcome of something like that coming to light for NBC would never be worth it to take such a chance.

as far as I remember her x saved her butt a few times.......I am seriously happy for her but I still believe the finalist shold have been Roger, Mark and Ali...even though Ali was voted off.

your key words were "directed by"

Is it illegal if there were in on it? I found it weird that Roger kept saying "I cannot lose wait and I hit a lull" over and over again. I am not saying the show is or was fixed for a woman to win but I would say 55/45 it was that is just the devils advocate in me and I wish I did not think that way, the show would be a lot more fun. No matter what the show is awasome and what they have done for those that need to lose wait is completely awesome. It is still my favorite show and I just hate the fact that it has become man against woman rather than just the winner. Who cares what sex they are.......it should be about how much she lost. So would women lose less weight if she lost by a pound? I think not.

I know I opened myself up here to be bashed but I have an opinion and others have theirs.

I don't think it's fixed...but it is might convenient on a marketing side to have a woman win. I just don't see how Roger could have lost...but the girl lost sooooo much weight! I mean, she had already lost 99 pounds at the ranch! She had it in the bag early.

He could have hit the "wall" for the first two weeks home (interview about his "lull") then was back on track losing the weight with four weeks left. It wouldn't be surprising if he lost 20 pounds in one month if he stayed consistent with his daily workouts and eating habits.

staypuff, I thought you were gonna behave? Quit stirring up trouble.

I have to fully agree...I mean twist and turns have become part of the game for BL, BUT if anyone deserved the glory it was Kelly...and she did have glory in my eyes because she did AWESOME! She changed her life and Im very proud of her! I hope she walks proud in a gorgeous dress for the rest of her life!!!!!!

It's not unusaual for the editors to show or HIGHLIGHT the negitives on those back at home videos. It's like that at every finale. When Eric won, they showed him at his deli staring down salami and the smokers out back. They showed Heather eating cho cookies and milk and gaining on the scale, they showed Kai drinking at a bar/club with girlfriends and I do believe they even showed Eric kick the scale across the floor.
They do that ( common sense ) to keep you guessing at who actually went home and did well....
I dont think that has ever been or been made to be men verses women, but like in ANY sport or show, you want variety in winners, you root for "under dog's " and you want to be the "1st" at something. Nothing different here.

I wasn't trying to bash you.. I was just trying to let you know about the legal ramifications. I am well aware that not everyone can be happy and satisfied.

But now that a woman won... isn't it kind of like finally hooking up with the guy or girl you had your eye on for a while? I'd say it's a relief and I am glad it's a done deal. I just wish I was at the finale this time around to enjoy it live. So let's all bask in this afterglow (lol).

I have a question, and remember it's just a question as I haven't seen the movie quiz show. But when the law regarding contests on t.v. came into effect, was it written to include all game shows? Because there's a difference in, say, "The Price is Right" and a reality show. I mean regular everyday game shows are places where anyone has a chance to win prizes/money. Reality shows like TBL are 'casted' and only a handful of people who are essentially 'hired' have a chance to win the prize. So to me, these are two different formats of shows. So is the law written to encompass both of these types?

I believe the law is in reference to "skill" competitions. I am really not sure how reality tv falls into this other than its own integrity. Personally TBL would mostly be judged the harshest because there is something tangible to provide evidence to. Shows like American Idol, Survivor, Big Brother, etc. I am not sure how they could really prove something that is being done dishonestly.

That being said, I do wonder whether there is an electronic recording of the constestants weight for some type of audit? It would make sense to me that there has to be some type of record. Perhaps those on the board who have been on the show can attest to this or not. I am also curious as to their official weigh-in whether they do in fact get to see their numbers. I assume not, but that must be odd and could be a cause of concern.

I am pretty sure that any show that has a prize falls under the law. The only difference with BL is that it is a competition centered around health. But all the same, they are still competing for a cash prize.

With today's day and age, and knowing how Dr. H loves his stats, I can say that everything is being tracked electronically (computer). Maybe Mr. McNutt or whoever can verify.

They do not get to see their numbers when they do an official weigh in. They don't know thier weight until the actual filming on the prop scale.

Personally, I think that because mostly everyone wanted to see a female winner, that Ali's hard work was aided by some subconscious will of all parties involved. For example (and I say this hypothetically), let's say that Rodger wanted to win but knew the pressure was out there for a female winner from the masses of fans and from the production staff. So his body shut down subconsciously and he didn't lose as much as he could of to take home the prize. And because of the pressure, Ali worked double as hard. THE IS ALL SPECULATION and my opinion based on observations (lol) - so don't take this seriously please.

Welcome back Pink....

lol i never went anywhere. I was just busy with life off the intranet.

good point.........I admit, she looked the best BY FAR. Really though I think women look best with a little more weight. Healthy, not skinny as hell.