Is anyone as geeked as I am? I've seen the preview about 8 times on the nbc.com site, it looks like an amazing epi, imo.

After waiting so long for a new epi, I have to go to a Tigers baseball game today at 7 p.m. I won't be able to watch SVU or The Tudors tonight.

Me + SVU= Extreme Happiness

Me - SVU= Severe Sadness

Hopefully tonight's episode doesn't let us down.

LAW & ORDER: SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT
UNDERCOVER
04-15-2008 10:01PM
04-27-2008 10:00PM

THE RAPE OF A YOUNG WOMAN AND A STOLEN RAPE KIT PROMPTS DETECTIVE OLIVIA BENSON (MARISKA HARGITAY) TO GO UNDERCOVER IN PRISON.
When Ashley Tyler (guest star Shareeka Epps) is found raped and beaten in a local community garden, Detectives Olivia Benson (Mariska Hargitay) and Elliot Stabler (Christopher Meloni) initially suspect her drug-dealing uncle, Rick Tyler (guest star Hassan Johnson). After the rape kit identifying the rapist goes missing, a crooked prison guard comes under suspicion. Detective Benson puts herself in great danger as she goes undercover as a prison inmate to catch the predator. Also starring: Adam Beach, Dann Florek, Ice-T, Diane Neal, Tamara Tunie, Richard Belzer, and BD Wong.

Show Cast: Chris Meloni, Mariska Hargitay, Dann Florek, Richard Belzer, Ice T, Diane Neal

Another Olivia episode. Everyone else gets the backburner for her stories. Mind you, it was a decent one but still unfair at how she's almost always in the lead and everyone else is secondary. What about stories with the others in the lead? Those are far and few nowadays.

Don't get me wrong, I love SVU it's just they need to give equal writing for all characters not just Olivia.

What did you think about the episode?

I loved tonight's episode! I recorded it and I am already watching it again! My hands were shaking when Olivia was in the basement. To the poster above, I personally love Olivia episodes! She and Stabler are by far the most interesting characters.

I can't wait til next week to see Olivia with a love interest...it has been a dry spell for her!

This was another great episode. Why do commercials always come on when something interesting is about to happen? But, Olivia did a great job acting this one out. As the person above posted, I love Olivia and Elliot episodes.

...and for a moment there I felt like I was witnessing a rape-in-progress. As a woman myself, I thought that they did that episode better than anybody would have done it in case they tried. Makes me wonder how often cases like the one portrayed on this episode actually happen in this country's correctional facilities.

Ok, so my boyfriend and I are having a dispute regarding the end of "Undercover" when Liv says "Thats the closest I've ever come" after being asked if the CO raped her.

Here's the question:
There was an earlier episode where one of the main characters admits to having been raped in college. Was it Liv? or was it Casey?

Please help clear this up!

It definitely wasn't Liv and I really don't think it was Casey, I'm pretty sure Liv's mom was raped in college though.

Does anyone know where this episode was shot in?

I don't normally get emotional watching a TV show, but this episode was like no other on TV. I thought for a moment the guard was going to get away with it. I actually cried at the end of the show, I was so happy they got him. This show just gets better and better with each season.
I have never had the pain of rape happen to me or anyone close to me, thank the gods. This episode struck such a chord with me that I truely believe no woman, no matter what she has done in her life to end up in jail, deserves to be violated.
I hope this episode gets recognized with an award.

I know what you mean. I'm not going to lie; I'm still a little disturbed from this last episode. Gotta love L&O. Makes you feel like you're there.

Olivia's mother was raped and got pregnant with her. Her mom chose to keep her but their relationship wasn't the best. There was a previous episode when they were talking about why some rapist's children chose to rape to follow the pattern of the father because is in their genes or chose to side the law and battle the problem.

Exactly, I can't get it out of my head. I keep wanting to cry, and I don't cry easily...it takes a hell of alot for a show to move me like that.

Warning: Major Spoiler.

Amazing episode, but why did they let the prison captain's lawyer get him released without a fight? Olivia's attempted-rape case against him was airtight. No way he could claim he was merely "restraining" what he thought was just another out-of-control prisoner. As Fin said, since when is pulling his pants down part of his job description. Open and shut case against the slimebag.

that episode was done very well but it makes me never want to do anything in my life to end up in jail because the sad thing is things like that really do happen and thats just not right. it also made me want to cry and it was so realistic its scary.

Indeed, the show gets more realistic each season, graphic-wise, but I feel we're loosing some of the old-school stuff that we can only find in the first years.

Sometimes, while I watch the new episodes I find it a bit far fetched, the old stuff seemed real from a plausibility point of view.

Munch has nearly disappeared from the show, he had the big lines in the first seasons.

I just feel that the ``spirit of realism`` is fading. I would like to see more serious trial scenes and some old-school crimes, not some kind of crap like the Another Youniverse thingy.

BUT, this new episode had something to it, we could really feel each part of the investigation and clearly understand Benson while she was undercover in that hellhole. This is one of those episodes that keeps me on the edge of my seat waiting for more, real action, real suspense, not some unintelligible mumbo jumbo incomprehensible plot like they sometimes get into.

STILL, Law & Order: SVU seems to be coming back in force with episode and this season, I hope.

I'd like to see more episodes like the ``Stalker```one in the first year, that has to be one of my all-time favorites.

Yay! I'm finally on the forums to meet other SVU nerds (pardon the label of 'nerd'). Anyway, this episode was quite possible the most frightening and yet one of my favorites. In response to one of the post above, I like the Olivia stories personally. Don't get me wrong though, it's always great to see a story on someone else. I'm not sure if this was just me or not, did anyone get really confused when they realized that the person assulting Olivia was Ice-T? It took me a split second to put it together, but I felt really lost for an instant. :-P Oh well. For those of you who might have been taping or for those re-watching...enjoy!

i was like shakeing waiting to see if liv would be alright. i was really worried on whether or not someone would make it in time. then i thought about it after the show was over and relized that they would probably not take it that far.

this was soooo real....i felt the emotions... it was so raw , it was pore-raising !!! Mariska deserves an Emmy !!! but i really wished that they would follow up on what had happened to Olivia ... as in if that was real she would have seriously been traumatized.... in the following epyys they should show us ....!!!!
Way to go SVU

This epi wa great, full of emotion just like an old SVU epi. I am so glad that SVU came back with a HUGE bang like this one did. I hope that the rest of the season is like this. this is one of my fav epis. of the season.



When Fin attacked Liv me and my husband FREAKED out.

i was really shocked because i didn't relize it was fin at first then i did and was like wtf

This episode was great. I felt like jumping thru the TV and killing the bastard that was with Olivia. Did anybody feel that the Captian looked like 70s porn star with that mustache? I thought he looked really weird?

I totally agree. It's like every episode, even when they show clips of it focusing on another character, like my favorite Elliot's VERY brief part of an episode earlier this month when he was blinded, ends of really focusing on Olivia. The same with the episode when Elliot's wife had the baby. Who was the hero? Olivia. They didn't even let Elliot help deliver his own child. I get a very strong feeling that after 10 years Christopher Meloni will move on when his contract is up. It didn't seem to go easy for him the last time. Before all of that, the show was more balanced, even though the character of Olivia still had better writing and the character was flushed out more. It's like just because she is the only one on the show who has won awards for her role, she's the one one who matters. I've seen plenty of entertainment reporters etc. talk about how many more good roles are out there for men than women in the business. That really comes into play when nominations are given out. I'm not saying Hargitay doesn't deserve nominations or awards, just that the system isn't exactly fair for the male actors when awards are involved.

My one surprise tonight with the show was that it was one episode. I thought for sure when I saw it advertised, then watched how long in the epi it took for them to put Olivia undercover that it had to be continued. I will say the character of Olivia has really evolved since the first episode when she got sick after visiting one of the victims who had gone blind from what the perp did to her.

Tell us how ya really feel about Liv whydon'tcha?

Personally, this episode was a little tough for me to watch. But it was really amazing. I had never allowed myself to get to invested in an episode, but with this one, I could help myself!
This episode was crazy good.
And I'm a huge E&O fan, so I loved seeing how concerned Elliot was about Liv's almost rape.

I agree, it felt really real. With the scene in the basement and then them arresting him and the women in the jail cheering, I almost cried. And it takes a lot to really make me cry.
This episode was amazing.

hi guys...im new here but anyhoo

i definatley loved this episode, one of my favorites...the girl ashely did a good job and of course marishka h omg i believed every moment of it.. this was just an all around stellar performance.. i LOVE olivia episodes but i agree that the show is turning into special olivia unit (hey i dont mind) but it havent fair to the other actors and other fans..and i would have appreciate it if olivia talked to elliot and not melinda about "the closest she ever came" to rape..hmmf!

omg . . . dick wolf is a genius!

that was the best episode ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i just spent 15 minutes trying to log on to this forum just so i could make this post.

dick wolf rules.

more please!

I loved this episode. It was so intense just the way I like the SVU episodes to be. Olivia is my favorite character on the show so I love to see Olivia episodes, don't get me wrong I love everyone one else but she's always been the one I relate to most.
The one thing that bugged me about this episode was afterward when she was back at the precinct when Elliot asked her if she was o.k. she didn't say anything about it. I mean she almost got raped. Even though it didn't actually happen I figured she'd freak out a little. Also when Fin came and rescued her then the next scene is her being Cop Benson she's all smart-mouthy like she gets she doesn't even act like it phased her really her chin trembles a little but that's it. I mean she's not made of steel woman show some emotions we know you have them when you sort of cried when you and Elliot had "The Talk".
Sorry I am ranting, but this episode had me trying not to scream at the tv if the guard would've raped Olivia. I mean I guess now I realize they wouldn't have let it get that far but when I was watching I was thinking that it could happen.
Now I will calm down.

Best episode EVER!

There has never been another episode that has kept me on the edge of my seat & riveted as Undercover did tonight. I was blown away by Mariska's performance, she had me near tears when the C.O. had her down on the floor in the basement. You could hear the raw fear in her voice when she was screaming for help, it was heart wrenching. Mariska deserves an Emmy for this episode, she gave the performance of her career as far as I'm concerned.

waiting, waiting, waiting for Australia to play it.

Was it just me or did Olivia look really hurt/heart brkn when she realized it was Finn that pushed her down and kicked her??? I thought it was great acting on their parts!

I registered and logged on to this forum specifically because of this episode. I wanted to see if others out there feel the same as me
I believe "Olivia" gets the spotlight more because there seems to be a higher demographics of women watching the show.
I almost gave up on the show last season, but now I'm hooked again. I don't care what anyone says about the "Olivia character" upstaging the other characters. She is an amazing actor and her plot line, involving her mother's torture and rape, resulting in her birth has always made the Olivia the central character. It's the nature of the show "Sexually Heinous Crimes".
I do wish we could learn more about "Munch", he seems to be the only character lacking a plot line associated with sexual abuse of any kind. I believe that is the bond that brings all of them together.
As I've stated before in my previous posts, this episode brought out more emotion in me than any other show I've ever watched. Thanks all

Amazing Amazing Amazing!!!

Last nights episode is the best SVU I've ever seen. I am a huge fan of SVU and watch it every single day on the channels that play re-runs. Even if I've seen it, I watch again.

"Olivia" deserves an Emmy for her performance last night. When Ice-T finally got the door unlocked and came around the corner yelling police...I started clapping and cheering. I wasn't sure if the writers would take it as far as her being violated but nevertheless it was award winning. My hat goes off to the writers for coming back from a long strike and creating last night's masterpiece. It will be hard to top that one!!!

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Wow, last nights episode was amazing and kept me hanging until the very end. I'm sure it hit home to many viewers. I have to say that Mariska did an amazing job acting in this episode and I do hope she lands another Emmy for her performance. I know they feature her a lot, but her and Chris are the glue for the show. Plus women and men both love Mariska. As a straight female I'm very comfortable saying that she is a beautiful woman and sometimes you can't help but just stare at her and wish you were her! Not to mention Chris is a cuttie!

Great work SVU... I'm looking forward to the rest of the season and many more to come!

I couldn't agree more! I hope this episode gets an award! I've seen tons of episodes of SVU, but nothing this powerful! Mariska did an absolutely outstanding job! what more needs to be said??

I was shaking watching the basement scene..omg..how powerful was that???

This was by far, the best episode of SVU that I've seen in a long time..so powerful!! I hope that this sheds some light on the issue that (I'm sure) goes on in women's prisons.

God and peace
Vanessa

Great episode, but can someone explain to me why the SVU allowed the prison captain to leave once they had him in custody? Shouldn't they have held him for the attempted rape on Olivia? (D Wolf, if you're reading this -- you and your writers are usually on target regarding police procedure, legal realism, etc. But you dropped the ball on this one. Still, it was a powerful, gut-wrenching episode.)

This was by far one of the most graphic episodes I have yet to see on SVU. My only problem is that they didn't allow time for Olivia to be there too long. I would have wanted to see her develop relationships with the other inmates more. As touching as the outside story was at the start it really didn't leave time for the main focus to develop. Am I the only one that really wanted to learn more and get to know about the inmate that at first hit on "Kat?" Also how the hell did they stage the hearing? I really would have also wished they would have covered the issue of in prison female to female rapes. Sadly society forgets that women can violate other women.... It would have been an even bizarre twist if the guard responsible had been a female one...

i thought about that two. and shouldn't he have been charged with like assualt or indecent exposer or something. but i'm also wandering if she acctually told anyone besides malinda about what he did? oh and when she said "whos the b*&@# now" i was going yeah you totally just screwed yourself. but then he was almost let go i don't get that

Mariska diseves an Emmy for this one that performance was great! and it seemed genuine which i would think is a hard thing to acomplish. but she pulled it off perfectly. sorry i'm ranting.

I think they may have covered that the reason why Olivia's situation was thrown out was because it could be seen as a detective's rampage against him. Plus I'm sure somewhere out there in the laws there are restrictions placed on undercover investigations and intentionally "trapping" a person.

No need to apologize. I think you're expressing what many fans here feel, especially regarding Mariska's performance. I'm constantly awestruck by how emotional I get from watching SVU. But I also get choked up from "24", which though not as realistic, also deals with dramatic encounters between good and evil. (I would love to have seen how Jack Bauer would have handled that prison guard.)

I thought that this eppy was really great. But, I think that they went a little too far with the rape thing. Oh ya, what was up with the whole Fin kicking her a**? Come on even if you are undercover just pretend that you kicked her hard don't actually kick that pretty thing I mean come on. Anyway my cable started to cut out son the VCR didn't do such a great job recording. Missed the preview

I will. She's grown a lot since she first appeared on ER. She's a very talented actress ... that's no doubt. My only problem is SVU is becoming a one-person show ... Olivia. I have been watching all the L&Os for a long time. That's not the formula. Christopher Meloni is a talented actor and so are the other actors on the set. The tension between Elliot and Olivia was one of the things that helped make this L&O more popular than the others. I expect we have only one more season with the character of Elliot anyway. It would be nice to see more of him before he goes.

I'm a woman and I watch it for Elliot and the storylines. I really liked the character of Olivia too until it all started being about her. I wasn't an Elliot and Olivia shipper, but I liked the tension between the two. It added something that the other Law and Order shows didn't offer and I love to watch them too. Where I give Mariska Hargitay credit to being a very good actress, many "Olivia" fans act like he has no talent and the show should always focus on her.

I think it was one of many thought provoking episodes of SVU.
However it was the one that had the most affect on me. I always thought I understood what assault victims may go through but I had no clue. Mariska Hargitay's powerful Emmy winning portrayal helped me see the fear and helplessness one can face in those terrible situations. I don't know if it's because we are invested in the "Benson" character or what but my heart was racing and I believed in that moment she was in serious danger. Never have I felt so disturbed and shaken after watching a TV show. I guess a part of me always knew that the show would eventually go that direction with the character and I think it was done very well considering the subject matter. I just want to say Bravo to both the show and Hargitay for a job well done!

Olivia's mother Serena Benson was raped while in college. Olivia is the product of that rape. That's what caused Serena to start drinking and become an alcoholic. That's also what caused Olivia to go to work in Special Victims Unit. So she could stop other women from being raped.

Haven't they started bringing that into question, though? I thought that was part of the point behind the storyline involving her half-brother last season?

This was one of the most intense episodes I have watched in a long long time. I thought Fin was not going to get there in time to save Liv.



They are still writing it as if she is the product of rape because didn't they imply that her father raped a bunch of college girls over time using his job working on various campus' delivering stuff (didn't he work for some food service or something like that?) to gain access to the girls? But then the fact that he knew she was his daughter and kept clippings on her like he was proud of her and loved her made it seem like it wasn't rape. So confusing and I guess since he is dead it doesn't completely matter but for Olivia's own psyche I think it would be nice if she found out that her mother lied and her father didn't rape her.

I think this was a great episode. I think the role that Liv had to do undercover will be a good thing for her. I think she'll be able to relate more to the rape victims that she deals with, and I hope that she'll be able to use her negative experience when it comes to the way she (and other attempted rape victims) are treated.

I didn't see it so much as an Olivia based episode. Who else could they have put there anyway? The storyline was great and I admit to being shocked when I watched Liv trying to convince Cragen to send her in there undercover. She knew the risks, she knew what happened, she knew it could happen to her. IMO the whole experience will strengthen her character.

I actually laughed though at the look that Liv gave Fin when he hit her. I can just imagine what would have gone on "backstage" after that. LOL

It was definitely intense and at moments I was thinking how stupid it was of Liv to knowingly put herself out there like that, almost as if she was asking for it to happen. I know how bad that sounds, but it's the way it came off to me. That she was intentionally doing something so that someone would try and attack her, so they could bust him.

Damn. Intense doesn't really explain it though. I have it taped and I've watched it a few times since Tuesday.

If the rest of the season is this good, I see good things in store for SVU again.