gabegirl
May 18 2008, 10:46 PM
Ok, is anyone else annoyed by the spoiler that says Lucas says he is going to take Ali away from Sami??? That is the stupidest thing I ever heard!!!
How would that custody hearing go???
Lucas: "Yes, judge. I'd like to take my daughter away from my ex-wife. I realize I'm under house arrest at the same dwelling as her, but I'd like permission out of that. And yes I realize that I'm still serving my sentence for attempted murder, but come on...She slept with her husband!!!! Does she beat her? Well, no....but...What?! The case is getting dismissed??"
Anyone else annoyed by the ridiculousness of this??
MrsTillLindemann
May 19 2008, 04:38 AM
Huh, I don't see how that spoiler is supposed to be annoying. Seriously, would that poor girl be better off with her mommy dearest who's selfish, cold, calculating rapist and with step-daddy who's done nothing but terrorized the whole town?
Shellefan1981
May 19 2008, 07:10 AM
QUOTE (KiriakisFan @ May 19 2008, 05:38 AM)

Huh, I don't see how that spoiler is supposed to be annoying. Seriously, would that poor girl be better off with her mommy dearest who's selfish, cold, calculating rapist and with step-daddy who's done nothing but terrorized the whole town?

lol. Exactly! I really dont think there is a good situation for those poor twins right now!
nbcsoapgal
May 19 2008, 07:52 AM
It's stupid that he thinks that he is even capable of taking Allie away. He's still paying for shooting EJ in the back. They are not going to give a guy on house arrest for attempted murder sole custody of a kid. And unlike Bo and Hope or anyone else on that show with children, you always see Sami and EJ at the house with them. We see the twins in one of their parents arms at lease once a week.
I guess because Grandpa Shawn the permanent baby sitter is now dead and gone, everyone in salem finally has to take care of their own kid lol.
JadeDeveraux
May 19 2008, 08:00 AM
AAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!! This just SCREAMS of classic Lumi. Lucas trying to take Will away, Sami trying to keep Lucas from Will...only now they are substituting Ali for Will. I swear I want to take every writer outside and beat them over the head with their own laptops! GIVE IT A BREAK! Give them something NEW.
I can't help but agree with gabegirl. Where the heck is Lucas going to go with Ali? What judge is going to give a man who is currently serving a sentance for ATTEMPTED MURDER of the kid's stepfather (and like it or not, that is what he is) full custody of a baby? Maybe a judge in Salem...but that is only in Salem.

Like it or not EJ hasn't been convicted of anything. Even the whole FCC thing wasn't criminal, he didn't get arrested or anything. Also, EJ has been very good with Ali. I can understand Lucas wanting to keep him away from his daughter, but the whole plot is silly and has been done with those two TO DEATH!!!!!!
EJAllTheWay
May 19 2008, 08:41 AM
I think it's even dumber that Lucas is under house arrest with the mah he tried to murder!
chloesgramma
May 19 2008, 08:42 AM
Lucas is brainless. That's how they write him and that's how he is. Taking Ali away is one of many of his pipe dreams and will obviously end in Sami, EJ, Ali and Johnny all leaving him in a cloud of passion dust! Just him being ordered to live at the Dimera mansion is the most redic thing I ever heard. It would make way more sense if he lived with Kate or even Philip. I think they need him back for closure and then I look for him to disappear upstairs at the mansion and never been seen in anything but a glint in Rolf's eyes.
luvpumpkns
May 19 2008, 08:51 AM
mickey tells us today that lucas will still be considered a convicted felon while he is on house arrest. he hasn't a legal leg to stand on when it comes to taking allie from sami. honestly, if he suggests it to sami, she'd be better off laughing in his face than getting angry or upset.
Shar08
May 19 2008, 11:21 AM
I think he has every right to Ali, Sami is being stupid sleeping with EJ and then Lucas comes home and sees them.
chloesgramma
May 19 2008, 11:31 AM
QUOTE (Shar08 @ May 19 2008, 12:21 PM)

I think he has every right to Ali, Sami is being stupid sleeping with EJ and then Lucas comes home and sees them.
Yes, most people feel sleeping with your husband is stupid!

...and then there is the idea of anyone just walking in someone's private quarters unannounced...and we won't talk about the height of intelligence that reaches....
Twilight1
May 19 2008, 11:35 AM
What I was thinking was this sets it up nicely for us to find out that Ali is EJ's as well so Lucas has no rights to either child. Now THAT would be classic soap!
Buffy_Summers
May 19 2008, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (chloesgramma @ May 19 2008, 11:31 AM)

Yes, most people feel sleeping with your husband is stupid!

...and then there is the idea of anyone just walking in someone's private quarters unannounced...and we won't talk about the height of intelligence that reaches....
LOL ROFL ...... sooo true
toosh
May 19 2008, 01:32 PM
QUOTE (Twilight1 @ May 19 2008, 11:35 AM)

What I was thinking was this sets it up nicely for us to find out that Ali is EJ's as well so Lucas has no rights to either child. Now THAT would be classic soap!
OR, quite possibly, the other way around.
megan2
May 19 2008, 01:41 PM
QUOTE (chloesgramma @ May 19 2008, 08:42 AM)

Lucas is brainless. That's how they write him and that's how he is. Taking Ali away is one of many of his pipe dreams and will obviously end in Sami, EJ, Ali and Johnny all leaving him in a cloud of passion dust! Just him being ordered to live at the Dimera mansion is the most redic thing I ever heard. It would make way more sense if he lived with Kate or even Philip. I think they need him back for closure and then I look for him to disappear upstairs at the mansion and never been seen in anything but a glint in Rolf's eyes.
well, if the truth be said Ali would be better off with a wolf rearing her than Sami. Sami is an idiot and Even though Lucas & Sami are good together Lucas is far too good for Sami. Sami is one person who should never of had children. It is onlt becauseof Lucas that Will turned to be half as good as he was. It had nothing to do with the selfish actions of Sami. And Elvis hell he is a dimera and he is no good. He is only putting on an act. As always Sami thinks with something other than her head & acts before she really thinks anything thru. Then she is always sorry and "HATES"herself after she does whatever. Elvis raped her and that is NOT something you can sweep under the rug. Soap opera or not. The man shot John, the man tried to kill Lucas and to think a child any child to be reared by that jerk even in soap land it is good. Sami is a total ASS as is Elvis
chloesgramma
May 19 2008, 02:43 PM
QUOTE (Twilight1 @ May 19 2008, 12:35 PM)

What I was thinking was this sets it up nicely for us to find out that Ali is EJ's as well so Lucas has no rights to either child. Now THAT would be classic soap!
That would be AWESOME! Especially since Ejami is the future supercouple, Lucas is a benign nauseaworthy nitwit, and EJ is the only Daddy Allie knows!
Twilight1
May 19 2008, 03:12 PM
ITA! Especially given how close EJ has gotten with Ali and the conversation Sami had with John about how John loved Belle before he even knew she was his. LOL!
elvisdimeralover
May 19 2008, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (chloesgramma @ May 19 2008, 11:31 AM)

Yes, most people feel sleeping with your husband is stupid!

...
and then there is the idea of anyone just walking in someone's private quarters unannounced...and we won't talk about the height of intelligence that reaches....
That's what I said as well. He had no business just walking into someone else's bedroom. Never know what you'll find, as he found out, LOL.
And yeah, I don't know where he thinks he's going with Ali. He can't even go out in the front yard, LOL. Fresh out of jail for attempted murder, he should feel stupid even thinking someone would give him custody of a child. Not to mention the fact that if he wants to get nasty, Sami has EJ now and they would make his life hell in a custody battle. I could see it going to court and with the fact that there are two fathers for the twins, the judge orders another test to make sure Lucas is Ali's father, and we find out EJ is.
sofasu
May 19 2008, 05:17 PM
The MOST annoying thing is Lucas coming home. Get ready for the whining. The Ali
statement is so typical Lucas. What no one has even mentioned in this entire
fiasco is that Lucas is so cowardly he shot EJ in the BACK! He didn't even have the
courage to face him. Oh well, I like Bryan I just don't like Lucas. I hope they write
him a really good s/l. I really don't want to return to him b*&*&ing at Sami every day,
watching Sami cry every day and then the tension that will be created by the three of
them in the same house. Now that they've handled the December thing, it's time to
clear the air about the babies and move things along. I want Lucas to meet someone
he absolutely falls instantly in love with and she with him. The problem - how can he
do this if he is under house arrest. How long will they drag this all out?
thetodd
May 19 2008, 05:24 PM
QUOTE (chloesgramma @ May 19 2008, 12:31 PM)

Yes, most people feel sleeping with your husband is stupid!

...and then there is the idea of anyone just walking in someone's private quarters unannounced...and we won't talk about the height of intelligence that reaches....
Well, in all fairness, most women marry a man because they are in love with him, not because their family would possibly be wiped out if they didn't go along with it.
Just sayin'...
thetodd
May 19 2008, 05:25 PM
QUOTE (luvpumpkns @ May 19 2008, 09:51 AM)

mickey tells us today that lucas will still be considered a convicted felon while he is on house arrest. he hasn't a legal leg to stand on when it comes to taking allie from sami. honestly, if he suggests it to sami, she'd be better off laughing in his face than getting angry or upset.
Yeah, but EJ is a Dimera.
They don't exactly have a good reputation legally, either...
ovnicki
May 19 2008, 06:06 PM
I think it's going to be revealed that Allie is EJ's anyway. It seems like they're going with EJami as the couple, so why would Lucas have any rights to a child that isn't is?? Here's hoping!
Jiggs
May 19 2008, 06:38 PM
QUOTE (thetodd @ May 19 2008, 05:24 PM)

Well, in all fairness, most women marry a man because they are in love with him, not because their family would possibly be wiped out if they didn't go along with it.
Just sayin'...
ROFL!!!
princesspower22
May 19 2008, 06:54 PM
I have to shake my head at this one...don't think Lucas would get very far with Allie because of that pesky ankle moniter...lol!
Ladykj
May 19 2008, 07:23 PM
QUOTE (chloesgramma @ May 19 2008, 08:42 AM)

Lucas is brainless. That's how they write him and that's how he is. Taking Ali away is one of many of his pipe dreams and will obviously end in Sami, EJ, Ali and Johnny all leaving him in a cloud of passion dust! Just him being ordered to live at the Dimera mansion is the most redic thing I ever heard. It would make way more sense if he lived with Kate or even Philip. I think they need him back for closure and then I look for him to disappear upstairs at the mansion and never been seen in anything but a glint in Rolf's eyes.
ITA!
Ejstheman
May 19 2008, 08:55 PM
The only way Lucas will get that baby is if Kate pays someone off,,like always!!
Dansejami
May 19 2008, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (KiriakisFan @ May 19 2008, 04:38 AM)

Huh, I don't see how that spoiler is supposed to be annoying. Seriously, would that poor girl be better off with her mommy dearest who's selfish, cold, calculating rapist and with step-daddy who's done nothing but terrorized the whole town?

Hmmm...felon father under house arrest vs stay at home mother and gainfully employed lawyer step-father. (Neither of whom have been felons in the eyes of the law.) Let's hope Kate bangs the judge if they are lucky enough to get a man or Phillip buys him/her off because that's the only way I see him winning. I understand you really like Lucas's character and your loyalty is admirable but unfortunately, in his current situation, there is no legal way Lucas would be able to win.
sliderwnf
May 20 2008, 02:03 AM
QUOTE (gabegirl @ May 18 2008, 08:46 PM)

Ok, is anyone else annoyed by the spoiler that says Lucas says he is going to take Ali away from Sami??? That is the stupidest thing I ever heard!!!
How would that custody hearing go???
Lucas: "Yes, judge. I'd like to take my daughter away from my ex-wife. I realize I'm under house arrest at the same dwelling as her, but I'd like permission out of that. And yes I realize that I'm still serving my sentence for attempted murder, but come on...She slept with her husband!!!! Does she beat her? Well, no....but...What?! The case is getting dismissed??"
Anyone else annoyed by the ridiculousness of this??
Personally, I think that he should take Ali away from Sami, Johnny to for that matter!! I don't find it ridiculous at all..
MrsTillLindemann
May 20 2008, 06:21 AM
QUOTE (thetodd @ May 20 2008, 01:24 AM)

Well, in all fairness, most women marry a man because they are in love with him, not because their family would possibly be wiped out if they didn't go along with it.
Just sayin'...
QUOTE (thetodd @ May 20 2008, 01:25 AM)

Yeah, but EJ is a Dimera.
They don't exactly have a good reputation legally, either...
You have good points there.
QUOTE (sliderwnf @ May 20 2008, 10:03 AM)

Personally, I think that he should take Ali away from Sami, Johnny to for that matter!! I don't find it ridiculous at all..
ITA.
steven120566
May 20 2008, 10:18 AM
QUOTE (gabegirl @ May 18 2008, 10:46 PM)

Ok, is anyone else annoyed by the spoiler that says Lucas says he is going to take Ali away from Sami??? That is the stupidest thing I ever heard!!!
How would that custody hearing go???
Lucas: "Yes, judge. I'd like to take my daughter away from my ex-wife. I realize I'm under house arrest at the same dwelling as her, but I'd like permission out of that. And yes I realize that I'm still serving my sentence for attempted murder, but come on...She slept with her husband!!!! Does she beat her? Well, no....but...What?! The case is getting dismissed??"
Anyone else annoyed by the ridiculousness of this??
It is ridiculous that someone just released from prison for attempted murder would think they would get custody. I don't think this post is about who viewers think is the best choice for parent.
steven120566
May 20 2008, 11:12 AM
QUOTE (princesspower22 @ May 19 2008, 06:54 PM)

I have to shake my head at this one...don't think Lucas would get very far with Allie because of that pesky ankle moniter...lol!
Sorry off topic, but wow what a banner.
Hoping4aEjamiBabe
May 20 2008, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (Twilight1 @ May 19 2008, 12:35 PM)

What I was thinking was this sets it up nicely for us to find out that Ali is EJ's as well so Lucas has no rights to either child. Now THAT would be classic soap!
OMG!!! I would LOVE it!!
Ejstheman
May 20 2008, 11:51 AM
Yep,it would be great if she were Ejs,,bond Ejami even more,and take away the emotional blackmail,Lucas has always used on Sami
daydreamgirl
May 20 2008, 12:38 PM
QUOTE (Dansejami @ May 19 2008, 09:07 PM)

Hmmm...felon father under house arrest vs stay at home mother and gainfully employed lawyer step-father. (Neither of whom have been felons in the eyes of the law.) Let's hope Kate bangs the judge if they are lucky enough to get a man or Phillip buys him/her off because that's the only way I see him winning. I understand you really like Lucas's character and your loyalty is admirable but unfortunately, in his current situation, there is no legal way Lucas would be able to win.
Only because EJ has never been caught.

Nor has he ever been honest enough to admit he did anything bad to the law.
chloesgramma
May 20 2008, 12:56 PM
QUOTE (sliderwnf @ May 20 2008, 03:03 AM)

Personally, I think that he should take Ali away from Sami, Johnny to for that matter!! I don't find it ridiculous at all..
Yes, I've always felt inately endeared to a man who would take a child from its mother and the only father its ever known...or its own father just to satisfy his own immature spiteful nature. (sound of me wretching). But wait, that would definitely violate his furlough house arrest....so let him try. Back to prison with his sorry little butt.
spiritgirl703
May 20 2008, 02:33 PM
QUOTE (EJAllTheWay @ May 19 2008, 08:41 AM)

I think it's even dumber that Lucas is under house arrest with the mah he tried to murder!
I think this is very stupid too.
Maybe what lucas is trying to say is that he is taking Ali to the other side of the mansion, cause thats as far as he can get without his monitor going off
chloesgramma
May 20 2008, 05:17 PM
QUOTE (spiritgirl703 @ May 20 2008, 03:33 PM)

I think this is very stupid too.
Maybe what lucas is trying to say is that he is taking Ali to the other side of the mansion, cause thats as far as he can get without his monitor going off
..and his monitor is the only thing he has any hopes of getting to go off for a good long time, now that Sami has had the sweet taste of the EJ....
frankiemcstein
May 20 2008, 06:37 PM
it's typical Lucas behaviour- threaten to take child from Sami to keep her under his thumb...
he can't be serious, he probably just wants to scare her into to submission-
he'd have to be a complete moron to think he could actually walk out of that house with Ali that very night-
i know EJ won't be able to do this, but it would be grand- for him to stand up for Sami and tell Lucas there's no way he's getting custody of Ali and taking her away from Sami- that he'll make it his personal mission to make sure Lucas can never threaten her with that again!
Sami placating Lucas with a kiss after he threatens taking Ali away is so non romantic- but enjoy it Lumi fans-
you do know Lucas will be licking up EJ's saliva from Sami's lips tho right?
lol tasty
Twilight1
May 20 2008, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (frankiemcstein @ May 20 2008, 07:37 PM)

Sami placating Lucas with a kiss after he threatens taking Ali away is so non romantic- but enjoy it Lumi fans-
you do know Lucas will be licking up EJ's saliva from Sami's lips tho right?
lol tasty
Oooooh now that was just wrong to say!
spitfire02
May 20 2008, 07:33 PM
QUOTE (frankiemcstein @ May 20 2008, 06:37 PM)

it's typical Lucas behaviour- threaten to take child from Sami to keep her under his thumb...
he can't be serious, he probably just wants to scare her into to submission-
he'd have to be a complete moron to think he could actually walk out of that house with Ali that very night-
i know EJ won't be able to do this, but it would be grand- for him to stand up for Sami and tell Lucas there's no way he's getting custody of Ali and taking her away from Sami- that he'll make it his personal mission to make sure Lucas can never threaten her with that again!
Sami placating Lucas with a kiss after he threatens taking Ali away is so non romantic- but enjoy it Lumi fans-
you do know Lucas will be licking up EJ's saliva from Sami's lips tho right?
lol tasty
uh ew? what the heck.
Dansejami
May 20 2008, 08:50 PM
QUOTE (daydreamgirl @ May 20 2008, 01:38 PM)

Only because EJ has never been caught.

Nor has he ever been honest enough to admit he did anything bad to the law.
That's my point. Personal opinions don't hold up in court. Everyone knows the court doesn't take children away from their mothers without a genuine LEGAL reason. Loyalty is great but it won't help Lucas win. He did an incredibly stupid thing (no matter what his reason) and he's in no position to threaten anything except that he's going back to jail because he'd rather be there. If the writers make him a whiner like he was before he left I have to admit I wouldn't be sorry to see him go. I'm hoping they do better with his character this time around. He's been around a long time. It would be nice to like him again.
Ejstheman
May 20 2008, 08:53 PM
I would like to know what they plan to do with him??He cant leave the masion,he cannot work,,is he going to sit around and help Rolf with the cooking>>Seriously!What
MrsTillLindemann
May 21 2008, 06:03 AM
QUOTE (daydreamgirl @ May 20 2008, 08:38 PM)

Only because EJ has never been caught.

Nor has he ever been honest enough to admit he did anything bad to the law.
Exactly.
abigail187
May 25 2008, 07:27 PM
QUOTE (chloesgramma @ May 19 2008, 11:31 AM)

Yes, most people feel sleeping with your husband is stupid!

...and then there is the idea of anyone just walking in someone's private quarters unannounced...and we won't talk about the height of intelligence that reaches....
hi chloesgramma.. as much as I love your sarcasm, I have to rebut it.. First of all, they are only suppose to be husband and wife in NAME only.. remember?? it was just to appease stephano supposedly?? second, I didn't see the scene but I don't think he knew they'd be sleeping together or he wouldn't have gone in.. LOL
He should never been released to stay at the house where the man he tried to kill was staying at in the first place.. lol
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