"I want to stay New John. Just like all the other characters I’ve played in the course of 23 years, I go through a metamorphosis – the Pawn to John Black to Roman to Forrest Alamain. This one has more distinguishable features." DDH
http://thebiz.fancast.com/2008/07/de...rent.html#more
There a HUGE difference between this metamorphosis and all the others and that's the essenceof John Black never changed. As the Pawn, John Black, RoJohn, FA and John Black the heroic, strong, sensitive, loving, protective, mysterious, characteristics were always at the core of the character.
Viewers love a hero, a mens-men, a loving father, a passionate, protective husband, a wonderful son, brother and friend. This John is the antithesis to everything viewers loved about the Pawn, John Black, RoJohn, Forrest A and J.Black
I hope the writers get that this John has out stayed his welcome and needs to leave sooner rather than later.
Full Version: My comments in reply to Drake's comments
QUOTE (testintl @ Jul 21 2008, 09:02 PM) 
"I want to stay New John. Just like all the other characters I’ve played in the course of 23 years, I go through a metamorphosis – the Pawn to John Black to Roman to Forrest Alamain. This one has more distinguishable features." DDH
http://thebiz.fancast.com/2008/07/de...rent.html#more
There a HUGE difference between this metamorphosis and all the others and that's the essenceof John Black never changed. As the Pawn, John Black, RoJohn, FA and John Black the heroic, strong, sensitive, loving, protective, mysterious, characteristics were always at the core of the character.
Viewers love a hero, a mens-men, a loving father, a passionate, protective husband, a wonderful son, brother and friend. This John is the antithesis to everything viewers loved about the Pawn, John Black, RoJohn, Forrest A and J.Black
I hope the writers get that this John has out stayed his welcome and needs to leave sooner rather than later.
http://thebiz.fancast.com/2008/07/de...rent.html#more
There a HUGE difference between this metamorphosis and all the others and that's the essenceof John Black never changed. As the Pawn, John Black, RoJohn, FA and John Black the heroic, strong, sensitive, loving, protective, mysterious, characteristics were always at the core of the character.
Viewers love a hero, a mens-men, a loving father, a passionate, protective husband, a wonderful son, brother and friend. This John is the antithesis to everything viewers loved about the Pawn, John Black, RoJohn, Forrest A and J.Black
I hope the writers get that this John has out stayed his welcome and needs to leave sooner rather than later.
Very well said.
QUOTE (testintl @ Jul 21 2008, 10:02 PM)
"I want to stay New John. Just like all the other characters I’ve played in the course of 23 years, I go through a metamorphosis – the Pawn to John Black to Roman to Forrest Alamain. This one has more distinguishable features." DDH
http://thebiz.fancast.com/2008/07/de...rent.html#more
There a HUGE difference between this metamorphosis and all the others and that's the essenceof John Black never changed. As the Pawn, John Black, RoJohn, FA and John Black the heroic, strong, sensitive, loving, protective, mysterious, characteristics were always at the core of the character.
***I know that I am in the minority, but I like the NuJohn. It's something different. I like it when they shake up the vets. Everyone knows that the Vets will win at the end, but it's nice to see every know and again.
Viewers love a hero, a mens-men, a loving father, a passionate, protective husband, a wonderful son, brother and friend. This John is the antithesis to everything viewers loved about the Pawn, John Black, RoJohn, Forrest A and J.Black
I hope the writers get that this John has out stayed his welcome and needs to leave sooner rather than later.
http://thebiz.fancast.com/2008/07/de...rent.html#more
There a HUGE difference between this metamorphosis and all the others and that's the essenceof John Black never changed. As the Pawn, John Black, RoJohn, FA and John Black the heroic, strong, sensitive, loving, protective, mysterious, characteristics were always at the core of the character.
***I know that I am in the minority, but I like the NuJohn. It's something different. I like it when they shake up the vets. Everyone knows that the Vets will win at the end, but it's nice to see every know and again.
Viewers love a hero, a mens-men, a loving father, a passionate, protective husband, a wonderful son, brother and friend. This John is the antithesis to everything viewers loved about the Pawn, John Black, RoJohn, Forrest A and J.Black
I hope the writers get that this John has out stayed his welcome and needs to leave sooner rather than later.
Couldn't have said it better. Will the real John Black please come back to us?
I agree with TJ76. I'm loving the Nu John!!! I hope he sticks around!!! I think a great story would be Marlena learning to accept him the way he is and them falling in love all over again!!
new jawn is emmy material..old john was snooze fest.
I think nuJohn has had his time in the sun. Eight months is enough, time for him to start morphing back into his old self. They can kill off Bo and let him come back and be a robotic version of Bo, who smokes cigars and insults people. It doesn't really have to be John, since old John was nothing like this. It could be anyone playing the part. Bring on Triumph the Insult Comic Dog! Now that would be entertainment!
NuJohn sucks ass and I don't give a crap what Drake wants.
NuJohn bugs the never ending crap out of me.
I am happy that Drake is having fun but I am no longer a John Black fan which is sad as I have loved him no matter what since 1986. NuJohn seems to have gained some Chelsea or Stephanie fans that never liked him before but I think he is bleeding J&M fans.
Personally, I like both!! Both john/nujohn, It's like watching twins, the evil one, and the good one!!! Sometimes annoying, most of the time a hoot!!!
I like the new John too but they need to soften him a little.
QUOTE (janalh @ Jul 21 2008, 11:15 PM)
I agree with TJ76. I'm loving the Nu John!!! I hope he sticks around!!! I think a great story would be Marlena learning to accept him the way he is and them falling in love all over again!!
I loved old John and am loving new John now. I'm hoping for a blend as he matures and falls back in love with Doc. He's always said she saved him and he needed her more than she needed him. I believe that will come thru once they step back and really get to know each other again.
After being back burnered so much, I'm glad he and Deidre are getting the front line story they deserve and looking forward to what they will do with it. Sounds like they are both excited over what is coming up.
Ditto on J&M falling in love all over again. I'm really hoping for a great love story after all this.
QUOTE (days4ever2 @ Jul 23 2008, 07:20 AM)
I like the new John too but they need to soften him a little.
I could go for that. I have to admit that I am enjoying this new John. He does spice things up, for sure. But I think they go a little too far with him sometimes. I would like to see a softer side of the new John too.
Higley has destroyed JM for me,I will only have memories now,I will no longer watch,Higley has destroyed a man I used to love and respect and turned him into shell of a man that I cannot even stand to listen to or look at and I get that Drake enjoys playing something different,its refreshing for him,I get that,but I think the cigars he has had on the show are getting to him if he wants this John to stay.
Well thanks for the memories at least,I may tune back in at some point,but I also may not.
I enjoyed things while the good stuff lasted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF_Vw2A2Oak
Well thanks for the memories at least,I may tune back in at some point,but I also may not.
I enjoyed things while the good stuff lasted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF_Vw2A2Oak
QUOTE (Tishmanspeyer @ Jul 23 2008, 12:32 AM)
new jawn is emmy material..old john was snooze fest.
If the Emmy's are now being given out for robotic one note characterizations then I have lost any hope for the Emmy's.
I don't see why they can't start blending in old John with NuJohn.
I understand Drake's desire NOT to be old John. I think he's done with Old John. Before John died, I got a vibe that he was really not of much interest. He and Marlena had been stagnated and that's a shame because Drake and Dee are AMAZING off the hook actors. I do agree that I am getting really tired of Robotic-NuJohn, but I don't think I want him to disappear completely and have OLD John come back. I think I am ready for a NEW John Black and a really good storyline for JARLENA.
I understand Drake's desire NOT to be old John. I think he's done with Old John. Before John died, I got a vibe that he was really not of much interest. He and Marlena had been stagnated and that's a shame because Drake and Dee are AMAZING off the hook actors. I do agree that I am getting really tired of Robotic-NuJohn, but I don't think I want him to disappear completely and have OLD John come back. I think I am ready for a NEW John Black and a really good storyline for JARLENA.
QUOTE (Mia_Devlin @ Jul 23 2008, 02:16 PM)
If the Emmy's are now being given out for robotic one note characterizations then I have lost any hope for the Emmy's.
ROFL! I don't think we have anything to worry about.
QUOTE (Hartleyfan @ Jul 23 2008, 08:37 AM)
Higley has destroyed JM for me,I will only have memories now,I will no longer watch,Higley has destroyed a man I used to love and respect and turned him into shell of a man that I cannot even stand to listen to or look at and I get that Drake enjoys playing something different,its refreshing for him,I get that,but I think the cigars he has had on the show are getting to him if he wants this John to stay.
Well thanks for the memories at least,I may tune back in at some point,but I also may not.
I enjoyed things while the good stuff lasted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF_Vw2A2Oak
Well thanks for the memories at least,I may tune back in at some point,but I also may not.
I enjoyed things while the good stuff lasted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF_Vw2A2Oak
Beautiful! Yep, we have great memories. I am fine knowing real John died. I don't care what happens to this loser in his body now. He can die for all I care about him. He's nobody to me and I don't care what he does. Real John was an amazing character and I will always miss him, but we got the best of him and some really great stories.
QUOTE (e83talus @ Jul 23 2008, 02:43 AM)
I am happy that Drake is having fun but I am no longer a John Black fan which is sad as I have loved him no matter what since 1986. NuJohn seems to have gained some Chelsea or Stephanie fans that never liked him before but I think he is bleeding J&M fans.
I have no interest in whether or not the actor is enjoying or hating the role they're playing, I watch for my entertainment. John Black remained a fan favorite for years and kept Drake employed because viewers loved the flawed, loving, hero he played. This jerk is a total turn off.
QUOTE (dorothyg @ Jul 21 2008, 10:01 PM)
Couldn't have said it better. Will the real John Black please come back to us?
do we know who the real John Black is
maybe now we'll see who he's suppose to be
I loved the old John when the writers had good stories for him. That was not happening and now he is more interesting. However, I want the old John back. Perhaps with Stefano arriving, things will begin to change. His hate for Stefano will stir up his brain. Somewhere in there, he still loves Marlena and I want to see that come out before he gets his memories back. Of course, what I want, and what the writers do are two entirely different things. They have a habit of screwing up good possibilities !!!
QUOTE (Mouse57 @ Jul 24 2008, 10:19 AM)
do we know who the real John Black is
maybe now we'll see who he's suppose to be
maybe now we'll see who he's suppose to be
I always wanted to know more about John's past. I hated the idea of him as a merc or art thief, but liked finding out more about him. I remember him telling Gina that he hated the idea of playing Roman and having kids, etc. That seemed so anti-John and highlighted how much he'd changed because of his love for Doc. I always felt he had a very sad/evil life under Stefano, and Marlena brought out the good in him. I figured the more negative we found out, the more it meant Marlena truly redeemed him.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what develops. Praying it's good!
QUOTE (2Aces @ Jul 24 2008, 10:55 AM)
I loved the old John when the writers had good stories for him. That was not happening and now he is more interesting. However, I want the old John back. Perhaps with Stefano arriving, things will begin to change. His hate for Stefano will stir up his brain. Somewhere in there, he still loves Marlena and I want to see that come out before he gets his memories back. Of course, what I want, and what the writers do are two entirely different things. They have a habit of screwing up good possibilities !!!
I so agree!
I want the same thing but am worried they'll screw it up. I try to remain cautiously optimistic.
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