To me, this simply isn't Knight Rider. I decided I was going to give this show a honest shot. I was going to watch and see how it went. Sadly, it went exactly how I was afraid it would.
I could accept KITT as a Mustang.. Sure, it was a change from the original, but then again this wasn't suppose to be the original. So, all in all I was ok with KITT as a Mustang. However, changing into a truck, was just pure stupidity. That was it for me, and I canceled my weekly DVR schedule for the show.
Sadly, to me Knight Rider 2000 is even better than this, and IMO made a better continuation of the Knight Rider story. I hope one day there is a real Knight Rider movie, that at least pays homage to the original. Sure, things change.. but this isn't normal change or the right reason. This is just an example or changing for the sake of changing. This show, to me anyway isn't Knight Rider.
This show reminds me more of a continuation of the TV Show "Viper" if anyone remembers it. It wasn't a bad show.. wasn't Knight Rider though.. then again neither is this.
My real hope, is that younger people will see this show, and maybe hear about the original and get a little interested... possibly enough to check out the original. That's the best I can hope for from this tragedy.
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ok,, I was unaware of that. Because Glenn Larson was still listed in the credits, I thought he was still involved. Then What N.B.C. executives did was no suprise. I would think Mr. Larson would ask N.B.C. to remove his name, because I can't see WHY he would want his name attached to this peice of garbage.
I had such high hopes too. But at least we have the original on dvd. They can't take that away. :-)
ok,, I was unaware of that. Because Glenn Larson was still listed in the credits, I thought he was still involved. Then What N.B.C. executives did was no suprise. I would think Mr. Larson would ask N.B.C. to remove his name, because I can't see WHY he would want his name attached to this peice of garbage.
I had such high hopes too. But at least we have the original on dvd. They can't take that away. :-)
HA, Viper. Atleast Kitt's not getting chased by stupid little Dodge Avengers. Or were they Probes? Does anyone care? lol.
I wish they'd give up the transformer thing, and leave it at the color changing thing. That was semi cool. Except when Kitt turned purple. That was bad. Very, very bad. And why are there no KR episodes on Youtube!?
I wish they'd give up the transformer thing, and leave it at the color changing thing. That was semi cool. Except when Kitt turned purple. That was bad. Very, very bad. And why are there no KR episodes on Youtube!?
Yeup - definitely a Spyker. What the heck was a Spyker doing on Knight Rider? Not entirely sure... Now, what I can tell you is that a Spyker will blow the doors off pretty much any Mustang on the road. However, it SHOULDN'T have been such a match for KITT... if that is his real name.
*chuckles*
Jeff
*chuckles*
Jeff
I agree with the show trying to do too much. I thought the car transforming into a pickup was the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Is this supposed to be a kid's show? And the turbo boost allowing the car to go from sitting still to jumping over other cars doesn't even look real.This has gotta be worse than the show, "Tarzan, the wonder car" showing in India.
Yeah, I looked them up and on a 10" screen, it looks like a Chevy symbol XD (I'm in college, the tv was free 
) Anybody else think it's wierd that NBC apparently has a huge budget for cars? I mean, the GT500KR is expensive, but holy crap, a Spyker's atleast 3x the price of the 'stang. That's probably why they don't do a lot of real driving, the cars are ridiculous expenisve. They got the TA's for free back in the 80's by the train car load.
) Anybody else think it's wierd that NBC apparently has a huge budget for cars? I mean, the GT500KR is expensive, but holy crap, a Spyker's atleast 3x the price of the 'stang. That's probably why they don't do a lot of real driving, the cars are ridiculous expenisve. They got the TA's for free back in the 80's by the train car load.
I totally, utterly, 100% agree that the overuse of CGI is annoying. But there's no way a tv network interested in making money will do real stunts in a show like Knight Rider.
Why? Do you know how much these 'stangs cost!? I'm surpised NBC bought three (one of which they apparently aren't going to use now...that Super Pursuit Mode-ish one from the movie wasn't in the show was it?). There's no way they'll buy a whole crap load of them to wreck in stunts when CGI is so much cheaper. This isn't the '80s, when Trans Ams were a dime a dozen. The reason they got sssooo many TA's was because it's illegal to sell cars damaged during shipping in trains, so Pontiac basically handed them over instead of paying to have them scrapped.
As much as I want there to be 95% real driving shots and 5% CGI stuff, with the price of the cars, it's not going to happen. Especially turbo boost, don't even know if you can do it in a Mustang. And I'm pretty sure Jack Gill isn't doing stunts on this show.
Why? Do you know how much these 'stangs cost!? I'm surpised NBC bought three (one of which they apparently aren't going to use now...that Super Pursuit Mode-ish one from the movie wasn't in the show was it?). There's no way they'll buy a whole crap load of them to wreck in stunts when CGI is so much cheaper. This isn't the '80s, when Trans Ams were a dime a dozen. The reason they got sssooo many TA's was because it's illegal to sell cars damaged during shipping in trains, so Pontiac basically handed them over instead of paying to have them scrapped.
As much as I want there to be 95% real driving shots and 5% CGI stuff, with the price of the cars, it's not going to happen. Especially turbo boost, don't even know if you can do it in a Mustang. And I'm pretty sure Jack Gill isn't doing stunts on this show.
We'll be watching!
No.
I don't care how fast the car goes...
how metrosexual and gay-friendly the characters look...
I'm not watching this dreck ever again. If I want to see a black 'stang, there's one in my driveway.
I don't care how fast the car goes...
how metrosexual and gay-friendly the characters look...
I'm not watching this dreck ever again. If I want to see a black 'stang, there's one in my driveway.
i was done before the opening credits rolled.....I'll give it a shot all right, right between the eyes....EPIC FAILism
QUOTE (kittxthexcat @ Sep 27 2008, 03:13 PM) 
I totally, utterly, 100% agree that the overuse of CGI is annoying. But there's no way a tv network interested in making money will do real stunts in a show like Knight Rider.
Why? Do you know how much these 'stangs cost!? I'm surpised NBC bought three (one of which they apparently aren't going to use now...that Super Pursuit Mode-ish one from the movie wasn't in the show was it?). There's no way they'll buy a whole crap load of them to wreck in stunts when CGI is so much cheaper. This isn't the '80s, when Trans Ams were a dime a dozen. The reason they got sssooo many TA's was because it's illegal to sell cars damaged during shipping in trains, so Pontiac basically handed them over instead of paying to have them scrapped.
As much as I want there to be 95% real driving shots and 5% CGI stuff, with the price of the cars, it's not going to happen. Especially turbo boost, don't even know if you can do it in a Mustang. And I'm pretty sure Jack Gill isn't doing stunts on this show.
Why? Do you know how much these 'stangs cost!? I'm surpised NBC bought three (one of which they apparently aren't going to use now...that Super Pursuit Mode-ish one from the movie wasn't in the show was it?). There's no way they'll buy a whole crap load of them to wreck in stunts when CGI is so much cheaper. This isn't the '80s, when Trans Ams were a dime a dozen. The reason they got sssooo many TA's was because it's illegal to sell cars damaged during shipping in trains, so Pontiac basically handed them over instead of paying to have them scrapped.
As much as I want there to be 95% real driving shots and 5% CGI stuff, with the price of the cars, it's not going to happen. Especially turbo boost, don't even know if you can do it in a Mustang. And I'm pretty sure Jack Gill isn't doing stunts on this show.
You raise a valid point.
However, the CGI that I, myself am speaking of, is the transforming effects and extensive use of neon/what the hell was the KR symbol under the chasis of the car bits.
I even commented months ago that Turbo Boost could be utilized if taking an old car and performing a stunt and putting a CGI of the Mustang over it. Or, in the case of what they did, pure animation.
In THAT regard, I'm all for the CGI.
But the show can be done with out OVER USING the effects, and instead concentrating on a story.
I dont want to see KITT transforming or turbo boosting or any other major stunt every 4 minutes of the show.
C
There is no excuse for the fact that everytime we saw a main character inside the car it was a greenscreen outside of it. Put the actors in the car and actually drive. The poor job they did projecting the scenery was just horribly distracting. The resolution of the scenery didn't even match the resolution of the interior view.
QUOTE (Aster_TA @ Sep 28 2008, 10:13 AM)
There is no excuse for the fact that everytime we saw a main character inside the car it was a greenscreen outside of it. Put the actors in the car and actually drive. The poor job they did projecting the scenery was just horribly distracting. The resolution of the scenery didn't even match the resolution of the interior view.
less CGI = lower costs in making the show.
Does anyone actually have any legitimate beefs with the show ? It sounds like after all of that mind numbing chastising and berrating in all the posts here you'd think a large number of spoiled brats didn't get their way. I think it's way too early to start making any hasty judgments. From what I've seen the first episode, it was better than the pilot in Feb. I think a lot of people were expecting the old Knight Rider with the cheesy 80s special effects, William Daniels doing the voice, and The Hoff behind the wheel of KITT. Now, while the latter two are clearly superior we can't get them and everything else is better. So suck it up and give the show a chance.
QUOTE (Mike2K9_30 @ Sep 29 2008, 01:29 AM)
Does anyone actually have any legitimate beefs with the show ? It sounds like after all of that mind numbing chastising and berrating in all the posts here you'd think a large number of spoiled brats didn't get their way. I think it's way too early to start making any hasty judgments. From what I've seen the first episode, it was better than the pilot in Feb. I think a lot of people were expecting the old Knight Rider with the cheesy 80s special effects, William Daniels doing the voice, and The Hoff behind the wheel of KITT. Now, while the latter two are clearly superior we can't get them and everything else is better. So suck it up and give the show a chance.
The acting is horrible. Even the voice behind KITTseems to be stuck with bad dialogue and cheesy lines. Here is an example " bad guy: big deal it's called GPS..KITT: Yes but can your car do this " The next we see is a whole lot of bad CGI, specially when viewing the car change from the side. You can tell this is a very low budget show. You can still make something that makes people interested in watching with a low budget, but this show actually screams low budget. ..It didn't work for me and made me cringe my toes and that is pretty much how the whole episode went. I can't figure out if its badly cast or the script is horrible. I think it may be a mixture of both.
I don't care much about the old show or David Hasselhof. I just want to be entertained with some good shows ...this isn't one.
Want it to succeed? Re-do it. Hire better actors and better scriptwriters, maybe use a main character that's in his mid/late thirties?? give the guy some believable experience and past. Who the hell thought giving the lead to a guy who looks like he should be in a boyband was a good idea? ..use better CGI. Instead of throwing people into the show like it was mid season, try slooowly introducing the characters AND KITT. Start off by showing how the main character was recruited into it all and how he meets KITT instead of being in the middle of an action sequence. I don't know, anything would be better than this. Why is every character in the show look like they where all pulled out of a model shoot? having characters a little rough around the edges makes them look real..Everybody just looked too neat and pretty.
QUOTE (DChris @ Sep 29 2008, 08:46 AM)
The acting is horrible. Even the voice behind KITTseems to be stuck with bad dialogue and cheesy lines. Here is an example " bad guy: big deal it's called GPS..KITT: Yes but can your car do this " The next we see is a whole lot of bad CGI, specially when viewing the car change from the side. You can tell this is a very low budget show. You can still make something that makes people interested in watching with a low budget, but this show actually screams low budget. ..It didn't work for me and made me cringe my toes and that is pretty much how the whole episode went. I can't figure out if its badly cast or the script is horrible. I think it may be a mixture of both.
I don't care much about the old show or David Hasselhof. I just want to be entertained with some good shows ...this isn't one.
I don't care much about the old show or David Hasselhof. I just want to be entertained with some good shows ...this isn't one.
Then Knight Rider isn't the show for you. This goes to show that people take TV shows too personally and expect way too much. It's TV not the real world. Suspend disbelief.
QUOTE (Mike2K9_30 @ Sep 30 2008, 01:23 AM)
Then Knight Rider isn't the show for you. This goes to show that people take TV shows too personally and expect way too much. It's TV not the real world. Suspend disbelief.
Being a fan of shows like Heroes, Dexter, Burn Notice i think my taste surpasses yours since your show won't be renewed for another season...wait and see. Now you can sit there and feel special you like a show nobody else does
The premiere was just terrible. What is with the Knight team? Could they be more annoying? There is no need to bring a team of techies into the picture like that, running around, flirting, give me a break. KITT and Michael are the story, make them interesting, don't throw a bunch of other crap in the mix.
The story was just as bad as the original show, but the original show had was lots of charm and a kind of darkness to it. This show has no charm, it's not intelligent at all, and looks like a video game half of the time.
They need to tone the effects way down and concentrate more on the stories. In this day and age, you can't wrap up a show in an hour. It needs to be more complex, story lines needs to continue, not everything is cut and dry. This was Journeyman's problem.
I'm telling you now, there is no way NBC will pick up this show if it continues like this. Perhaps SciFi will take it, but it really needs to improve to stay on primetime TV now days.
The story was just as bad as the original show, but the original show had was lots of charm and a kind of darkness to it. This show has no charm, it's not intelligent at all, and looks like a video game half of the time.
They need to tone the effects way down and concentrate more on the stories. In this day and age, you can't wrap up a show in an hour. It needs to be more complex, story lines needs to continue, not everything is cut and dry. This was Journeyman's problem.
I'm telling you now, there is no way NBC will pick up this show if it continues like this. Perhaps SciFi will take it, but it really needs to improve to stay on primetime TV now days.
I grew up with Knight Rider. The series is what made me interested in cars in general. Since before the series was even announced, I modded my truck with the lights and sounds of the original KITT.
I watched the movie pilot and thought the story was good, the car looked nice (even though I was dissappointed it was a driving Ford commercial), I thought I'd give it a chance.
THEN, I watched the first episode season premiere...........
What in God's name were they thinking? The original Knight Rider series was not a comic-like non-stop action-packed series. It actually had storylines, character development and a shadowy underground "does not exist" persona about it.
Not even ten minutes into the episode, KITT is surrounded by a swarm of police officers who all hear KITT talk (oops, there goes the secret) and see some magic jets mysteriously make KITT jump from a stand-still position to magically flying over their heads?
Are you kidding me?
The pilot movie car looks great in persuit mode. Who decided to make KITT transform into a 1/4 mile track muscle car with silver aluminum-looking hubcaps? WOW, just, wow.....
What's going on with the characters? Why did they go from a serious acting role in the pilot to a light-hearted 'we're about to die so let's get naked, but don't get any ideas while we are burning to death' type of scenario(s)?
I suppose it's a good show for kids, but how can you take a show that was based off an almost black-ops shadowy underground organization and turn it into a comic-like atmosphere with silly acting and a so-stereotypical math and physics genious character? Didn't we have enough of that in every other action movie, ie; National Treasure(s), Tomb Raider(s), Batman(s), etc.?
I'll give it a few more chances since I'm still loyal to the old series, but in my humble opinion, they killed what could have been the most successful resurrection of a TV series ever. We got teased with a decent 2-hour made-for-TV movie that has gone a 180 in the opposite direction with the prime-time premier.
I won't even mention the really bad CGI-rendered cargo plane and the transformation into a pickup truck.
Unbelievable.
I watched the movie pilot and thought the story was good, the car looked nice (even though I was dissappointed it was a driving Ford commercial), I thought I'd give it a chance.
THEN, I watched the first episode season premiere...........
What in God's name were they thinking? The original Knight Rider series was not a comic-like non-stop action-packed series. It actually had storylines, character development and a shadowy underground "does not exist" persona about it.
Not even ten minutes into the episode, KITT is surrounded by a swarm of police officers who all hear KITT talk (oops, there goes the secret) and see some magic jets mysteriously make KITT jump from a stand-still position to magically flying over their heads?
Are you kidding me?
The pilot movie car looks great in persuit mode. Who decided to make KITT transform into a 1/4 mile track muscle car with silver aluminum-looking hubcaps? WOW, just, wow.....
What's going on with the characters? Why did they go from a serious acting role in the pilot to a light-hearted 'we're about to die so let's get naked, but don't get any ideas while we are burning to death' type of scenario(s)?
I suppose it's a good show for kids, but how can you take a show that was based off an almost black-ops shadowy underground organization and turn it into a comic-like atmosphere with silly acting and a so-stereotypical math and physics genious character? Didn't we have enough of that in every other action movie, ie; National Treasure(s), Tomb Raider(s), Batman(s), etc.?
I'll give it a few more chances since I'm still loyal to the old series, but in my humble opinion, they killed what could have been the most successful resurrection of a TV series ever. We got teased with a decent 2-hour made-for-TV movie that has gone a 180 in the opposite direction with the prime-time premier.
I won't even mention the really bad CGI-rendered cargo plane and the transformation into a pickup truck.
Unbelievable.
Hi! Justin said in interview, and the series has shown us, that this is a continuation of the classic Knight Rider Show...
So, why not name this season as Season 5 ? Season 1 of "Knight Rider" was in 1982.
So, why not name this season as Season 5 ? Season 1 of "Knight Rider" was in 1982.
What kind of car was the red convertible used by the racing brothers? They crashed the first one then had to steal the 2nd. Kind of had a Lamborghini look to it.
QUOTE (KRTBS @ Oct 1 2008, 09:25 PM)
What kind of car was the red convertible used by the racing brothers? They crashed the first one then had to steal the 2nd. Kind of had a Lamborghini look to it.
It was a McLaren F1!! Fastest production/ stree leagal car ever made.
Don't get me wrong, I like the Mustang, but it seems to me that if Ford wants to have a an hour long commercial they can afford to throw a couple of mustangs away for the sake of turbo boost. And if NBC can afford to pay the cast of friends $750,000 an episode, they can afford this. (Yes I know that they had the ratings to support it, but this show has the potential to be big, just stop all the CGI and transformations!)
QUOTE (tireland @ Oct 1 2008, 11:06 PM)
It was a McLaren F1!! Fastest production/ stree leagal car ever made.
After watching the episode again I came to the same conclusion as I noticed the 3 person cockpit. But if memory serves me correct, they original F1 was a coupe and they quit making them several years ago. So is this a new version?
QUOTE (KRTBS @ Oct 1 2008, 10:55 PM)
After watching the episode again I came to the same conclusion as I noticed the 3 person cockpit. But if memory serves me correct, they original F1 was a coupe and they quit making them several years ago. So is this a new version?
It was not a McLaren F1. They never made a Targa version of it.
It looked like a crosse between an Enzo Ferrari and Lamborghini Diablo. Maybe a Kit car that was custom made to blow up for the show?
Definitely not a Mclaren F1, but I think thats what they were going for looks wise (hence the three seats). Most likely a custom body on a kit car (cheap to blow up), the tail lights were from a Infinity G37 coupe and the build quality was pretty bad. Anyone have more info on it?
FYI also featured was:
Silver Car: Saleen S7
Blue w/stripes : Ford GT
Black: Spyker C8 Spyder (does KR have a deal with them? they keep showing up)
Red: Viper
White w/stripes : Ford GT
Lime Green: Dodge Charger Daytona
FYI also featured was:
Silver Car: Saleen S7
Blue w/stripes : Ford GT
Black: Spyker C8 Spyder (does KR have a deal with them? they keep showing up)
Red: Viper
White w/stripes : Ford GT
Lime Green: Dodge Charger Daytona
After doing some more browsing on the comments from photos on the main page, it does look like a customized version of the Lambo Mercielago or better yet the new Reventon. The headlights, side intakes and top intakes look very Lambo-like.
So perhaps a kit car that has elements of the McLaren F1 and the Lambos, with elements of other cars. Or perhaps there is company that makes these kit cars ala the Ferrari Daytona Spyders they used early on in Miami Vice. Perhaps they could get a couple cheap. There seemed to be a difference in build quality from the hero shots and the action shots so perhaps a real kit car and then a copy for stunt purposes. Definitely eye catching despite the build quality.
Thanks for the info on the other cars. Hopefully someone will dig up more info on this one.
So perhaps a kit car that has elements of the McLaren F1 and the Lambos, with elements of other cars. Or perhaps there is company that makes these kit cars ala the Ferrari Daytona Spyders they used early on in Miami Vice. Perhaps they could get a couple cheap. There seemed to be a difference in build quality from the hero shots and the action shots so perhaps a real kit car and then a copy for stunt purposes. Definitely eye catching despite the build quality.
Thanks for the info on the other cars. Hopefully someone will dig up more info on this one.
Looked at the explosion / burned out footage again and I would bet money its a Pontiac Fiero based custom, based the wheel base proportions and engine placement. Really nice design, anyone know who does the cars for the series? Seems like a waste if its a one-off, there are so many bad replica Fiero kit cars and a original design that cool would be a killer bargain basement head turner.
There is a name on the back of the car. Does anyone have it DVR'd in HD?
I got a shot of it but still can't make it out. R-something I think. Maybe someone with photoshop skills wants to take a crack at enhancing it (please do!)
http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krbadgebx9.png
http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krbadgebx9.png
Found it for ya. The car is, from what I can gather, a custom built car from Romania of all places. It's called the Predator Xtreme.
Very hard to find... here's a link on Flickr with some photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/derewecki/set...57606839976465/
Very hard to find... here's a link on Flickr with some photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/derewecki/set...57606839976465/
Wow! Crazy Find! that thing is super rare I could only find two mentions of it on the web, I thought the Spyker was about the rarest thing in the episode, but that thing makes it look like a Toyota! Anyone have any idea what the underpinnings of it are?
http://www.carsandtuning.org/predator-xtreme-or-what/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4UVPsj52Dw
http://www.carsandtuning.org/predator-xtreme-or-what/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4UVPsj52Dw
I like the car I love cars that make people turn there heads.
it could be worse at least they didn't try to rip of the show "the mantis" (i think thats the name) and made mike a paraplegic and given him a leg harness to allow him to walk and as an unforeseen consequence he gains super strength
QUOTE (2Knight @ Sep 23 2008, 11:04 AM)
It seems to me that they're trying to make the show mimick too many other shows / movies all at once and appeal to too many diverse audiences all at once. And while that may not be a bad thing in itself, it should at least be a subtle mixture that doesn't overwhelm the viewer by trying too be everything all in a 45 minute or so episode.
I've noticed some form of mimicking of the following shows / movies:
1. The original Knight Rider
- was this necessary to point out?
2. Team Knight Rider -- what with the airplane and team of people working. Also, I don't know if anyone noticed, but in the movie Mike's mom's name was Jenny. In TKR, Jenny drove the red Mustang and believed Michael Knight to be her father.
- um, if Jenny thought Michael Knight was her father, then she couldn't be the mother of Mike Traceur... because then Michael Knight would be his GRANDfather. And it's not like Jenny is such an obscure name... not at ALL likely that two different people would have that name? Ya think!?!?
3. Viper -- the nanotech transformations and looking mainly like a normal car until it goes into its transformation
- I never watched this show, no comment applicable. (well, I am fair)
4. Tranformers -- no explanation needed
- You don't say?! - the entire REASON they were able to MAKE this show, has already been
announced publicly and officially - it is because of TransFormers 2007. This is a very well known fact.
5. Mission Impossible and / or CSI -- with all the people involved and cool spy gadgets
- and 007 didn't? Gadgets are a widespread thing... inspector gadget included! (wow!)
6. 2001 Space Odyssey -- the red eye snow globe reminding one of the Hal 9000
- AGREED. I am a fan of the PILOT's console system, not the series's Hal Globe. Also, the steel around the "eye" with those design gaps looks unfinished, the first dashboard and controls from the pilot were MUCH better.
7. The Fast and the Furious -- all the clipped scenes and stop motion
- Stop Motion?!?!? Clipped Scenes? Are you talking about the intake cut during turbo boost? What exactly do you mean?
8. Batman -- what with the "KITT cave" and all
- I miss the traveling Semi trailer, it made more sense to have a traveling base, and only
an occasional MAIN BASE that is seldom needed or seen (FLAG itself).
9. A soap opera or drama -- not sure which one, but with Mike working with his ex-Sarah, and all the tensions that are involved if and when either of them date other people, and of course, they're setting up drama with other people working for Knight Research
- Knight INDUSTRIES. These people are needed and drama is also needed to bring in a wider fan-base. More regular non-nerds may want to watch this for the hot chicks and the tension between characters... it appeals to FEMALES that way. That's more audience, and a GOOD thing!
10. A Ford commercial -- with all the logos and product placements like the pickup truck
- DVRs and TIVO are to blame for this. And I LOVE my DVR... but when they KNOW that nobody watches tv live anymore who has these, they also KNOW you're NOT watching their sponsor's ads and the only reason a show EXISTS is its sponsors, so... product placement will be a stronger than ever force since more and more people TIVO shows or use standard DVRs.
Does anyone else notice any comparisons to other shows or movies?
I've noticed some form of mimicking of the following shows / movies:
1. The original Knight Rider
- was this necessary to point out?
2. Team Knight Rider -- what with the airplane and team of people working. Also, I don't know if anyone noticed, but in the movie Mike's mom's name was Jenny. In TKR, Jenny drove the red Mustang and believed Michael Knight to be her father.
- um, if Jenny thought Michael Knight was her father, then she couldn't be the mother of Mike Traceur... because then Michael Knight would be his GRANDfather. And it's not like Jenny is such an obscure name... not at ALL likely that two different people would have that name? Ya think!?!?
3. Viper -- the nanotech transformations and looking mainly like a normal car until it goes into its transformation
- I never watched this show, no comment applicable. (well, I am fair)
4. Tranformers -- no explanation needed
- You don't say?! - the entire REASON they were able to MAKE this show, has already been
announced publicly and officially - it is because of TransFormers 2007. This is a very well known fact.
5. Mission Impossible and / or CSI -- with all the people involved and cool spy gadgets
- and 007 didn't? Gadgets are a widespread thing... inspector gadget included! (wow!)
6. 2001 Space Odyssey -- the red eye snow globe reminding one of the Hal 9000
- AGREED. I am a fan of the PILOT's console system, not the series's Hal Globe. Also, the steel around the "eye" with those design gaps looks unfinished, the first dashboard and controls from the pilot were MUCH better.
7. The Fast and the Furious -- all the clipped scenes and stop motion
- Stop Motion?!?!? Clipped Scenes? Are you talking about the intake cut during turbo boost? What exactly do you mean?
8. Batman -- what with the "KITT cave" and all
- I miss the traveling Semi trailer, it made more sense to have a traveling base, and only
an occasional MAIN BASE that is seldom needed or seen (FLAG itself).
9. A soap opera or drama -- not sure which one, but with Mike working with his ex-Sarah, and all the tensions that are involved if and when either of them date other people, and of course, they're setting up drama with other people working for Knight Research
- Knight INDUSTRIES. These people are needed and drama is also needed to bring in a wider fan-base. More regular non-nerds may want to watch this for the hot chicks and the tension between characters... it appeals to FEMALES that way. That's more audience, and a GOOD thing!
10. A Ford commercial -- with all the logos and product placements like the pickup truck
- DVRs and TIVO are to blame for this. And I LOVE my DVR... but when they KNOW that nobody watches tv live anymore who has these, they also KNOW you're NOT watching their sponsor's ads and the only reason a show EXISTS is its sponsors, so... product placement will be a stronger than ever force since more and more people TIVO shows or use standard DVRs.
Does anyone else notice any comparisons to other shows or movies?
Nah.. I think you covered it pretty well. I'm not trying to pick your post apart, I just wanted to make those points. We are in agreement on some of those items anyhow, it's not all bad.
Oh gods I think I'll puke if I see KITT transform into a PuckUp again! Seriously, I know Ford is trying to make some Buck here, but a Pick UP? What, is a Mustang not up to running around off road. Guys, this sends a bad image of a product, as well as having the car break down after a silly jump and transform. No no no, this wont do, the Knight Industries 2000 did not transform, could do jumps and pirouettes, for REAL, not CG! I have had my friends in Marketing Class view the 2nd episode and do an analysis, based solely on the Image that the Mustang is projecting and they agree with me. Not good...
I truly believe that the franchise is a good one, the potential is good, excellent actors, story good, but they are trying to cover too many angles and end up with a banged up job. VIPER was back in the 90's, and it looked tons of times more refined. The Car is a Character, if you change the appearance too much you alter the Personality, KITT is a CAR, not a PukeUP, a MUSTANG COBRA, hard boiled bad boy with an attitude that PURRS like a big kitty.
If you ask me his developing is A OK from the stand point of his doing research to better understand the concept of humanity, a la DATA (from Star Trek, sorry Glen). What I'm not to keen on is the unnecessary extras that for the sake of Capitalism and Commercialization (PukeUP Mode) detract from a good show. I hope they start shifting their gears right as the season continues.
If only for the sake of being fair and out of curiosity fore Mike's past, I'll stay on board a while longer. When I saw the Pilot I was really revved up, but after two episodes It feel a little anti-climactic to see the treatment they have given to this revered show.
I have a request though, a comedy like episode that would appeal to the females out there, have the Girls take a spin and handle a case all by themselves, and have them take kit and have him turn Pink with a Hello Kitty bumper sticker and Mike and the Boys fussing up and complaining that KITT is a boy or something. I think it would be fun!
I truly believe that the franchise is a good one, the potential is good, excellent actors, story good, but they are trying to cover too many angles and end up with a banged up job. VIPER was back in the 90's, and it looked tons of times more refined. The Car is a Character, if you change the appearance too much you alter the Personality, KITT is a CAR, not a PukeUP, a MUSTANG COBRA, hard boiled bad boy with an attitude that PURRS like a big kitty.
If you ask me his developing is A OK from the stand point of his doing research to better understand the concept of humanity, a la DATA (from Star Trek, sorry Glen). What I'm not to keen on is the unnecessary extras that for the sake of Capitalism and Commercialization (PukeUP Mode) detract from a good show. I hope they start shifting their gears right as the season continues.
If only for the sake of being fair and out of curiosity fore Mike's past, I'll stay on board a while longer. When I saw the Pilot I was really revved up, but after two episodes It feel a little anti-climactic to see the treatment they have given to this revered show.
I have a request though, a comedy like episode that would appeal to the females out there, have the Girls take a spin and handle a case all by themselves, and have them take kit and have him turn Pink with a Hello Kitty bumper sticker and Mike and the Boys fussing up and complaining that KITT is a boy or something. I think it would be fun!
Finally sat down to watch the two eps I'd recorded. Let me state I thought the tv movie they ran earlier this year for this was fun and not half bad. This series, so far, is, in my opinion, crap. The whole headquarters set looks hokey as hell other than the giant harness that flips KITT around. All in car shots look fake while driving. And all this camera tech that can even allow obvious film crew shots (like a getaway vehicle being viewed from the front without trouble or movement of the angle at all) to be viewed at ease. Lame. I do love the car, I'm a sucker for the newer Mustangs, seriously. The transformations KITT did in the tv movie were decent, but this new Mustang turns into a giant pickup & lame ass non-attack-attack-mode is wasted smegma to me.
And, given this is such a deep, top secret type organization with the most advanced car around being operated by the son of what in the series world should be a legend it should be more lab coats & suits, not overly fine women (seriously, they're hawt) in jeans and tops that look like they just walked in from the Gap along with guys that look like they're on the way to the bar in a few minutes. The tech & effects are what kill me most. Well, those and the storylines. Crap like badly done car jumps or, my 'fave', the pickup version of KITT flying down the subway tracks without so much as a bump before Mike somehow ending up in the bed of it in a split second at which point the truck comes to a dead halt (dead halt) and he jumps out, no trouble. GAWD! Add the plots of some scientist dude writing a password into his DNA complete with a totally lame reaction to getting a thumb cut off + things like during the first race of the second ep KITT being made to go into "attack mode" to catch the guy in the red car, being seen clear by the guy they were racing, then Mike saying (after a crapola reason of a minivan backing out in the desert just at that second and KITT mumbling on about how there's no time when clearly there was) that during the 'nother lame jump he has to revert back in order to "not be seen" = OMG, why am I watching this show? Which is why after the second commercial break of the second ep I just turned it off. And there's another thing with that race. In the tv movie KITT could slightly alter the type of Mustang he was and cross the US in practically two or three hours and being a computer could compensate for other drivers in the blink of an eye, but now this ******* in a red sports car with a supposed jet engine inside can outdrive him? Even get close? BAH!
This show is waaaaay too lame, and all sorts of bad hokey for me.
And, given this is such a deep, top secret type organization with the most advanced car around being operated by the son of what in the series world should be a legend it should be more lab coats & suits, not overly fine women (seriously, they're hawt) in jeans and tops that look like they just walked in from the Gap along with guys that look like they're on the way to the bar in a few minutes. The tech & effects are what kill me most. Well, those and the storylines. Crap like badly done car jumps or, my 'fave', the pickup version of KITT flying down the subway tracks without so much as a bump before Mike somehow ending up in the bed of it in a split second at which point the truck comes to a dead halt (dead halt) and he jumps out, no trouble. GAWD! Add the plots of some scientist dude writing a password into his DNA complete with a totally lame reaction to getting a thumb cut off + things like during the first race of the second ep KITT being made to go into "attack mode" to catch the guy in the red car, being seen clear by the guy they were racing, then Mike saying (after a crapola reason of a minivan backing out in the desert just at that second and KITT mumbling on about how there's no time when clearly there was) that during the 'nother lame jump he has to revert back in order to "not be seen" = OMG, why am I watching this show? Which is why after the second commercial break of the second ep I just turned it off. And there's another thing with that race. In the tv movie KITT could slightly alter the type of Mustang he was and cross the US in practically two or three hours and being a computer could compensate for other drivers in the blink of an eye, but now this ******* in a red sports car with a supposed jet engine inside can outdrive him? Even get close? BAH!
This show is waaaaay too lame, and all sorts of bad hokey for me.
Wow, how is the show able to afford shooting with such cars? One or more of the producers must have a helluva car collection.
I've read online that it's a high priced piece of junk, someone on a website said in the pics you can see paint chipping off of the windshield frame and you can clearly see a big paint chip on the top rear of the car. When I saw it on the show I thought it was some customized Murcielago roadster.
The Shelby GT500 KR is list-priced at $80,000, but a friend of mine at Ford says the limited edition super car is actually selling for more than $100,000.
According to the book "Knight Rider Legacy," Pontiac gave the original show's producers 32 slightly dinged '82 Trans Ams that were damaged during a shipment. 32 freaking free cars.
According to the book "Knight Rider Legacy," Pontiac gave the original show's producers 32 slightly dinged '82 Trans Ams that were damaged during a shipment. 32 freaking free cars.
Was the M.B.S. system that got compromised at the end of season 3 of the original show, is that fixed and back on the NEW K.I.T.T.? We KNOW it HAS Nanotech but is NANOTECH responsible for bullet-proofing and indestructability? OR is it a newly modified Molecularly Bonded Shell? Mike T. Turned it OFF at the end of the Pilot movie and then BACK on to crash the bad guy's suv into K.I.T.T. Devon showed his father a similair way to turn on and off the MBS system in that show's pilot, yet they never used it in the show to my knowledge, as far as they never turned it off at least.
So what's doing the bullet-proofing and indestructability for K.I.T.T.? IS it Nanobots reforming his shell or is it the coating with a new unbreakable forumala and is THAT part of the secret data on the hard drives that was recovered and cannot be compromised (again)???
I feel that we need to ask NBC to CLARIFY this on the show. PLEASE. This matters to me. IF its only NANOtech, we need to know how FAR Nanotech can go by way of allowing for invulnerability... and if its NOT Nanotech protecting K.I.T.T.'s shell, we need to know WHAT it is, if its the MBS formula shell or something else. PLEASE EXPLAIN!!
ANY EXECs on the show, you are WELCOME to come post in reply here. I REALLY THINK the true fans need an answer!
So what's doing the bullet-proofing and indestructability for K.I.T.T.? IS it Nanobots reforming his shell or is it the coating with a new unbreakable forumala and is THAT part of the secret data on the hard drives that was recovered and cannot be compromised (again)???
I feel that we need to ask NBC to CLARIFY this on the show. PLEASE. This matters to me. IF its only NANOtech, we need to know how FAR Nanotech can go by way of allowing for invulnerability... and if its NOT Nanotech protecting K.I.T.T.'s shell, we need to know WHAT it is, if its the MBS formula shell or something else. PLEASE EXPLAIN!!
ANY EXECs on the show, you are WELCOME to come post in reply here. I REALLY THINK the true fans need an answer!
QUOTE (Aster_TA @ Sep 28 2008, 11:13 AM)
There is no excuse for the fact that everytime we saw a main character inside the car it was a greenscreen outside of it. Put the actors in the car and actually drive. The poor job they did projecting the scenery was just horribly distracting. The resolution of the scenery didn't even match the resolution of the interior view.
Shooting that practically is always a problem in hollywood. hardly anyone has been able to really shoot a true driving scene from inside of a vehicle and have it come off good at all. Not even High-Def cams can make the shot right, for some reason. It's an anomaly for videography. I agree the fx for this (resolution-wise) should match.
Now why not show them driving from outside of the vehicle just as they used to do wide-panning shots of the Hoff in his KITT driving off on some parkway and playing "Take it Easy" in the background. Use these shots instead of inside-driving shots and so you can avoid that crappy anomaly.
QUOTE (KnightRiderKR @ Oct 3 2008, 01:14 AM)
I've read online that it's a high priced piece of junk, someone on a website said in the pics you can see paint chipping off of the windshield frame and you can clearly see a big paint chip on the top rear of the car. When I saw it on the show I thought it was some customized Murcielago roadster.
Thats what I said at first. It's a highly modified Lambo Murcielago roadster with center drive, and Inifiniti G35 rear lamps. I wanted to see the show just so I could check that car out. (hint, hint NBC) Makes me wonder if they can afford to have such rare cars on the show like that Spyker and this thing, why couldn't they afford to use a better car for KITT?
Bumping - Come on Knight Rider fans! You can remember the whole Molecularly Bonded Shell and how 3 members of F.L.A.G. had their parts memorized, but none had it all and how they cloned one guy and tricked the formula out of the others, reversed it and sprayed it on K.I.T.T. and then the fix was in, and K.I.T.T. met the Jaggernaut and was DESTROYED and had to be rebuilt and they even used an earlier copy of the A.I. program and had to implement Super Persuit Mode for K.I.T.T. to be able to speed away because he no longer had the shell?
Lets discuss this!! So does the NEW 3000 model have this at all in any way or is it ALL Nanotech??? Let's talk about it!
Lets discuss this!! So does the NEW 3000 model have this at all in any way or is it ALL Nanotech??? Let's talk about it!
I read somewhere that the realism of the old show was sometimes sacrificed because of the body style of the old T. Let's face it this KITT even looks like it might be able to go through a wall. It is wider, appears thicker in body style, is higher up off the ground (especially in truck mode:), and did make the Predator in episode 2 look small. I think that the new KITT is a good selection all around. You get the fast car look, but without looking like a plastic tinker toy:) I also think the new Mike actually can kick some *(^*&, and so can the girl:) I like the new fight choreography way better than the old show. I was a big fan of the old show, but I am pleased with the new show for a new generation. My son likes it and will soon begin pretending to be driving KITT as I did so many years ago! I love America and it's imagination! Please lose the reality shows!
QUOTE (Rinnovate @ Oct 3 2008, 11:36 AM)
Thats what I said at first. It's a highly modified Lambo Murcielago roadster with center drive, and Inifiniti G35 rear lamps. I wanted to see the show just so I could check that car out. (hint, hint NBC) Makes me wonder if they can afford to have such rare cars on the show like that Spyker and this thing, why couldn't they afford to use a better car for KITT?
Is the character's last name Tracer or Traceur? It's spelled two different ways on the official NBC site.
I'm getting the feeling that not only are the acting and writing atrocious, but with this and the Knight Industries web site gaff, that the show is poorly managed from the top.
Here's to hoping Knight Rider makes it!
I'm getting the feeling that not only are the acting and writing atrocious, but with this and the Knight Industries web site gaff, that the show is poorly managed from the top.
Here's to hoping Knight Rider makes it!
i will put money down that says this show is canceled in its 1st season! the script holes are so large my 8 year old son caught them.
i need some extra money! steel me a "half million $" car so you can race for a cut of "2 large".
why not just sell the car you stole for the money
at the bar the girl just walked into the garage without having to do anything but be there for a race. so all the front side of the story was pointless except for the producers to get 50 girls in swim suits to try to "F" them. what a joke.
i liked the movie too but this series wont make it long. its kind of sad too cause if your going to rip off an old show that was popular at least try to do it some justice with better writing.
i need some extra money! steel me a "half million $" car so you can race for a cut of "2 large".
why not just sell the car you stole for the money
at the bar the girl just walked into the garage without having to do anything but be there for a race. so all the front side of the story was pointless except for the producers to get 50 girls in swim suits to try to "F" them. what a joke.
i liked the movie too but this series wont make it long. its kind of sad too cause if your going to rip off an old show that was popular at least try to do it some justice with better writing.
signed
QUOTE (Rinnovate @ Oct 3 2008, 10:36 AM)
Thats what I said at first. It's a highly modified Lambo Murcielago roadster with center drive, and Inifiniti G35 rear lamps. I wanted to see the show just so I could check that car out. (hint, hint NBC) Makes me wonder if they can afford to have such rare cars on the show like that Spyker and this thing, why couldn't they afford to use a better car for KITT?
I probably saw the Xtreme before online but quickly blew it off because it looks like a piece of junk. I may have totally forgot about it until I saw it on knight rider, I see alot of whacky piece of junk cars online, this one is no different. I'm not even sure how much it costs in real life since I can't seem to find Predator's auto company site. I bet it's not $500,000 though it's probably more like $100,000. Did anyone notice that Kitt's engine noise went totally dragster from hell loud during the race when he switched to attack mode, that was great.
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