Heres some two things I have yet to see posted on...

1. Kaito gives a rather lengthy speech with something about darkness and evil and the light and good blood... I believe hes refering to Claire as being some sort of annomly... which goes along with the whole theme of the show "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World)

2. Angela saying shes Sylars real mother... Could be in a metephorical sense (she may have been nurturing his growth and development of his powers or could acutaly mean birth mother)

3. Linderman, either traveling by some sort of Astro projection or as a form of mind minipulation such as by Mr. Parkman Sr.

Nobody seems to be too interested in these yet id like to discuss them

You're forgeting Elle just being dumped off on her own. I dunno, I found that very sad. She lost her father and home. And she has no people skills!!

It wasn't metaphorical, could be meant both ways. I do think Angela is Sylar's mother, and I do believe she has been looking out for him, probably the same way she looked out for Claire.

Well.... I think if he was actually her son that might complicate things a bit (and make them a little too star warsish?) his birth, just like micahs was, could have been aranged by the company... maybe they arragened certain births as Angela saw them in her visions

You haven't seen these questions asked yet, because you're the one making all these threads. (j/k)


1. Disagreed. It's something MUCH bigger.

2. Disagreed. They wouldn't cut off after saying that, if it weren't true. It's possible that Sylar is just a half brother of Peter and Nathan. Angela has slept with Kaito, why not someone else?

3. Could be, but my theory is Nathan has somehow gained the power to see the dead.

What all did Kaito say exactly? It was a lot to take in and I don't have tivo so i couldn't go back and watch again.

1:I dont think it has anything to do with Claire but with all heroes to do good and not bad.(Simple but effective!)

2:I think it was just a fiqure of speech like it's been said and they prob.cut away so people can think about it and get confused..But IF she is he's real mom then i actually like it.

3:Yea i think it could be Maury but also could be that nathan has a new power of seeing dead people.Either way i think it's good!.

Couple things that bothered me: (though it's no big deal really)
1. If this picks up right after Nathan was shot, how come Mohinder's nose was healed? Did he make a quick stop at the hospital after shipping off Molly to wherever? And what about Elle's injured arm?
2. Mohinder seems to have forgotten all about Niki's cure (he doesn't know she's dead, does he?) Last we saw of him, he looked pretty concerned. Now he's all "Ooh, syringes! Maya! Sex! Rockn'roll!"

With this - I'm hoping maybe there will become some connection with Claire and the Bennett family - maybe things will go all nice with them and they'll take her in. I don't see her going to the villain side anytime soon.

1. The formula thing has probably more to do with Shuresh's storyline than anything. He is the insatiable scientist afterall.

2. The mother storyline was hot - ties in with the crazy family line - check out theories on Adam, Hiro, Saunders, and the Petrelli family.

3. I'm not sure what to think about the Linderman scenario.

I think the other concerns about the injuries were just plot holes - or maybe there is a time shift that we aren't aware about (explains the Niki/Tracy) thing.

Where is this place they are taking Molly to? And are they just ending the storyline for Micah and Monica - granted Micah was at the premier - so that would kinda be lame for him.

I just want to know how powerful everyone can get - there have been some amazing blow ups so far this season like with Elle and her burst.

And I really want to see some characters come back somehow - like we have seen so far.

There are over 20 episodes this season and so,i tihkn many can be answerd in time.

Regarding question 3:

Nathan is going mad. Or he's hallucinating, going crazy, insane, whatever... he's suddenly starting to believe that his healing was divine intervention. He already has one imaginary friend, why can't he have another? His belief in god reveals his irrationality and deludedness therefore its entirely possible for him to believe he's seeing someone who isn't there. Of course I'm open to the fact that there could be other possiblities but there is this one too.

Careful. You're dangerously close to insulting the majority of the human population here.

I was a little irritated to hear them have Sylar spew the old 10% myth. It has been shown many times that we use 100% of our brains. It was varified by watching the brain activity of people hooked up to a machine. We there wasn't any portion of the brian that didn't fire up.

You are aware of the fact that plenty of scientists in various fields of study are religious right? We could get inot a good deep discussion about why we as a species tend to favor supernatural explinations of things we can't explain but that discussion does not belong on this board.

Anyway, since Peter didn't bleed into Nathan I'm betting someone other than God is responcible for Nathan's resurrection and his mental state. I doubt he is crazy or going crazy.

I was under the impression that he'd filled the bullets with either Claire's or his blood so that they would heal him. They said his injuries healed from the inside so it makes sense... That's just what I thought. Peter never wanted him to die, he just didn't want him to tell everyone about 'special people'

I think he said "pure blood" - so apparently we're fighting Voldemort now.
But in all seriousness, I think it might be Claire in that she could probably right wrongs that Mohinder will inject into the common populace - pun super intended. With her awesome healing powers she could probably "fix" the psuedo-supers before the side effects turn them into a mucus monster too.

At the same time, this may be an illusion to their "Jesus/Harry Potter" character who will save them all from damnation and the terrible effects of what the old generation has done.



I agree - I think its metaphorical, someone said it would make it too StarWarical (and I'd quote you if I wasn't type-type-typing right now) and it would be totally nuts and super incestuous to have all of the super supers spawned by mama petrelli's robust womb.


Two Words: Jedi Master

No. Not really - but I have nothing better than that... unless Nathan gets some residual dual power effects from his momma and lil bro OR papa petrelli is still alive and both brought Nathan back from the dead and is talking to him via Linderman. (maybe that's Papa's power - astral projection?)

He took the bullets/gun from Claire in the future and immediately shot Nathan, so I don't think he had time to give the bullets special healing powers.

imo peter healed nathan with lindermans ability. i also think peter has something to do with nathan seeing linderman cause peter apologized while touching nathan, walked out and then linderman was there. very weird.

Has anyone else noticed that the story is really close to the now cancelled 4400? the 4400 had the promiacin that could give abilities to people without them? Did NBC hire the old writers from the 4400?

I was thinking the same thing, but when did Peter meet Linderman? Maybe when he was a kid (which is how he got Mama P's power) but I'm not 100% on that...



Maybe, but this would be yet another weird power the Future Peter has that Present Peter/Jesse doesn't and all of the Future Peter stuff we've seen (which is limited, I'll admit) hasn't shown him to have MORE powers than Present Peter does - just that he has better control over them and is a super BA.

linderman was a very good friend of the petrelli's. im sure they've met numerous times.

and i think f-peter has all kinds of weird powers we don't know about.

1. I agree that Kaito’s reference to “good blood” is somehow a reference to Claire. Sylar also makes a reference to the fact that Claire is different from the others, special, or an anomaly if you will.
2. Angela as Sylar’s mother – I’ll have to wait and see, but we all know that she has had at least one affair…
3. This is interesting – there are several possibilities; he could be crazy after all he’s been through, but I’d like to think that since Peter was able to see Charles Deveaux after his death in a dream (or was it a dream), Nathan may share this ability with Peter, or it’s possible that Peter transferred it to him a la srt acr’s post. As far as how Nathan was healed, don’t forget that he was healed with Adam’s blood after Peter went nuclear. The residual healing effects must still be present.

I have a crazy stupid idea about Angela and Sylar... Maybe Angela was literal about the "I'm your mother" bit. Maybe Angela and Arthur had a son between Nathan and Peter (or possibly Peter's twin) but he wasn't testing positive for any powers (just like Sylar didn't test positive with Suresh Sr.) so the company pressured them to give him up for adoption, probably thinking that a 'normal' person wouldn't be able to run The Company. Yes, it is crazy stupid but my friends last night kept saying how much Peter and Sylar looked alike...

Peter did kiss Nathan on his forehead and so maybe he did something powerful with his lips lol.

His instant realization that, oh ponies! now people are going to think I'm nuts, would seem to debunk the crazy guy thing.

Oh ponies! LOL :lol I didn't know the filter on here chooses other words for you. LOL

Believing in God is irrational but it is not hallucinating or going crazy , insane in the margin of being able to imagine an entity that acts like Lieberman.

Either the writers are frigging stupid playing number 6 without explanation on us. (BSG reference) or

Someone other than Nathan exists and is making this visions appear. There is no reason to believe they are just part of his "insanity" or that he is "insane" , especially in a show like heroes with bunch of people having the abillity to create illusions , see visions , create nightmares , rise from the dead due to an unexpected reason.

If it is an illusion it could be either Future Peter or Matt's father. Or it may be Lieberman himself , his objectives seem pretty similar to lieberman objectives season 1. Get Nathan in Politics , manipulate him into doing your bidding but believing it is also his idea. But Angela was also pulling the strings.

So maybe she does have another ability or a new friend.

Or maybe he does see the real Lieberman due to a new ability of someone or because he is not dead.

It is certainly not insanity.

IF it's not an illusion well then theres still 23 episodes to explain this!

Lets not forget about Charles Devo (sp?) Simone's dad. He had the ability to bring you to a reality and show you people as well as the environment. Im not sure if this is a variation of that or not because Charles's ability was never revealed fully. However, on another note- we're talkin about future peter - who knows what abilities he's come into contact with.

How did Angela get to Odessa so fast?

Did she ride the friendly Westy skies?

The thing is, if Charles Deveaux was really dead at the time, it could not have been him interfering.