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The Pam Dichotomy S5 is the fourth installment of in-depth analysis and discussion of Pam's emotional, psychological, and behavioral patterns as they relate to JAM. Each week a new analysis is posted dissecting Pam's psyche on a scene by scene basis. Each episode post includes interactive questions (QTP) aimed at inciting intelligent and fun discussion. Please feel free to join in and add your thoughts and observations.

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Episode Links:
Each link will take you to the page of the original analysis for each episode and the start of all subsequent discussion for that episode. Check it out to catch up on or relive discussion on previous episodes! New links will be added for each new episode.

Weight Loss - Part 1 (scroll down to Post #2)
Weight Loss - Part 2
Business Ethics
Baby Shower
Crime Aid
Employee Transfer
Customer Survey
Business Trip
Frame Toby
The Surplus

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JAM Playlist:
For each episode a new song is added. Be sure to visit iTunes to check out a comprehensive PD/JP JAM Playlist published on iMix.

Seasons 1-4 Playlist

Season 5 Playlist:

Weight Loss - Part 1: Save Tonight - Eagle Eye Cherry
Weight Loss - Part 2: Truly, Madly, Deeply - Savage Garden
Business Ethics: Home - Michael Buble
Baby Shower: I Just Love You - Five for Fighting
Crime Aid: Not Myself - John Mayer
Employee Transfer: N/A
Customer Survey: Return to Innocence - Enigma
Business Trip: Tremble for My Beloved - Collective Soul
Frame Toby: Home Life - John Mayer
The Surplus: Love Today - Mika

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The PD/JP Family of Threads:

Visit the partner thread to the PDS5 to get the other side of the story.

The Jim Paradox: S5

Use these links to revisit previous seasons on the PD and JP.

The Pam Dichotomy: S4
Partner thread for the Jim Paradox S4 that explores Pam’s character development on emotional and psychological levels with emphasis on how her behavior impacts JAM.

The Pam Dichotomy: S3
Partner thread for the Jim Paradox S3 that explores Pam's character development on emotional and psychological levels with emphasis on how her behavior impacts JAM.

The Pam Dichotomy (original)
Summative analysis of Pam in Seasons 1 & 2 focusing primarily on her emotional duality. (We’ve come a long way since the original thread! :-O)

The Jim Paradox: S4
Partner thread for The Pam Dichotomy S4 that explores Jim's character development on emotional and psychological levels with emphasis on how his behavior impacts JAM.

The Jim Paradox: S3
Partner thread for The Pam Dichotomy S3 that explores Jim's character development on emotional and psychological levels with emphasis on how his behavior impacts JAM.

The Jim Paradox (original)
Summative analysis of Jim in Seasons 1 & 2 exploring the paradox of his emotional status and his actions.

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Commonly Used Acronyms:
PD - Pam Dichotomy
JP - Jim Paradox
CN - Casino Night
FNB - Fancy New Beesly
QTP - Questions to Ponder
DM - Dunder Mifflin

Click here for a complete listing of message board lingo. The very last page has the most current acronyms.

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Weight Loss - Part 1

For the last two years, the word “dichotomy” has been used as a means to describe Pam’s various traits and evolution of her character. In Weight Loss the word takes on yet another meaning as Season 5 opens to find Pam on a new and exciting path in her life.

Pam’s adventure in New York takes her away from all she knows with the promise of making her dreams come true. However, with all the excitement of the new, the old pulls at her in equal measure which creates a new obstacle course for FNB to navigate. As much as Pam tries to pull away from Dunder Mifflin and her role as a receptionist, pieces of that life keep pulling her back. Thus an interesting dynamic has begun to take shape in that Pam’s two worlds of old and new are truly becoming separate territories. Previously she was just a receptionist who became a receptionist going to school. Her two worlds co-existed on the same plane where change was gradual. Now she is looking to get rid of the term receptionist as a defining attribute of herself. Her two worlds are pulling at her, thereby creating a new dichotomy. As hard as Pam tries to escape the dead-end of DM, it somehow finds a way to pull her back in, even when she’s all the way in New York. The new and exciting vs. the old and familiar is a battle everyone has fought at one point or another in their lives. Pam knows what she wants, but getting there is never easy. Especially, when the end result is worth the struggle. Of course, Pam has experience with this type of battle. She knows the ropes of leaving comfort in order to find where she truly belongs. Just ask Jim.

Between chasing her dreams in New York and the long awaited proposal from the man of her dreams, Pam’s life is better than she ever allowed herself to believe just a few years ago. All it takes is one look at her to see how she glows from the pure joy that pulses through her. Part of the glow Pam comes from her continuing transformation into FNB. She exudes confidence, determination, and of course happiness as she continues to fulfill her potential. At the same time, pieces of Old Pam continue to make an appearance. Pam is always going to be Pam. She hates being the center of attention, is easily embarrassed, and her confidence can be shaken. No matter how strong she gets, there are core elements to her personality that will never change. It’s wonderful to see her grow, but there are some things about her that can’t and shouldn’t change. Her weaknesses along with her strengths are part of what makes her so special. FNB continues to highlight and utilize all the best Pam has to offer, giving her the confidence to overcome her weaknesses.

Through all the changes and challenges in front of Pam, Jim continues to be her anchor. He is a guiding light with his love, support, and encouragement. FNB is strong, but she is stronger with Jim by her side. There’s no telling how much longer, if at all, it would have taken Pam to realize her talents and go for her dreams had he not been there to remind her she can do anything. Not just now, but always. Pam knows this and it means the world to her. Of all the new things in her life, Jim continues to be the best gift of all.

JAM Playlist:
Save Tonight
Artist: Eagle Eye Cherry
Album: Desireless

This song is done from a male perspective, but just pretend it‘s Pam and it‘ll fit. wink.gif It’s one of my favorite and I’m so glad it has a place on the JAM Playlist.


First Weigh-In:

The weight loss challenge between all Dunder Mifflin branches launches a week before Pam is supposed to head to New York. Along with everyone else, she gets on the industrial scale in the warehouse. Even though she’s leaving, Pam still participates as she would in any work function. To her surprise, she is immediately kicked off the scale by Dwight and Michael. It’s Beach Games all over again as Pam is singled out. She eyes the camera with a nervous glance, as Pam hates to be the outcast. Furthermore, she is now the center of attention as being the only one who isn’t on the scale. It’s uncomfortable to say the least especially since the camera is focused on her. She looks at Jim who gives her a knowing smirk. She can hear him telling her he understands how she feels, along with the inside joke that is Michael and Dwight. The Mozart and Butch Cassidy duo is unbelievable, yet so real. All they can do is silently laugh.

Pam stands off to the side, slightly annoyed and embarrassed that she has been isolated from the group. Michael makes the comment that “family only” is part of the challenge which only adds to Pam’s discomfort. She may be leaving, but she isn’t being permanent exiled. Here lies the conundrum of trying to move on while part of her remains attached to her present and past. Pam may be desperate to leave the receptionist desk behind, but she cares about the people she works with, even when they are annoying. They are a kind of family that she has been a part of for many years. It’s a weird attachment, but it exists nonetheless. For someone as warm and compassionate as Pam, human attachments run deep. Michael is a glowing example of how Pam truly cares about him as a person despite his enormous faults. To have that thrown back in her face at the weigh in doesn’t exactly feel good. However, this is only a small part of Pam’s reaction.

Pam’s primary response is the result of something every woman would prefer to keep to herself. Her weight. As soon as Darryl calls off the new group weight total she waits anxiously and hopefully that no one will start to do the math to figure out her weight. That’s a number that most women would guard with their life, no matter their size. Of course, Kevin blurts out exactly what she didn’t want and then made it even worse by calculating the wrong number. Pam is horrified by both the fact that Kevin would say it out loud, but also that his number was much higher than her actual weight. Holly jumps in to defend Kevin, “Almost Kevin . . .” still believing he is mentally challenged. However, Pam is intent on doing damage control herself. Very diplomatically she smiles and says, “Not almost . . . I mean . . .not close to two hundred.” Pam knows the correct weight has already been figured in almost everyone’s mind, but pure instinct drives her to fix it further. As Holly tries to comfort Kevin further, Pam quickly tries to redirect attention elsewhere by telling everyone to move on. The tactic works as everyone focuses their attention towards Darryl who is waiting to take their picture. Pam’s embarrassed and bewildered face can’t hide from the camera as she stands off to the side of her dysfunctional work family.

The symbolism of this scene is slight, but it shows how Pam differs from her co-workers. She truly is the outcast in that she is taking steps to move on from dead end that is Dunder Mifflin. She wants more than picking up phones and sending faxes and she is doing something about it. Those on the scale are accepting of their fates while Pam is not. She stands apart from the rest for now, but only time will tell if she pulls away for good or rejoins them.

Packing Up/Talking Head #1:

The time to pack up her desk has finally arrived. A box of her belongings sits on the upper portion of her desk with Jim dutifully ready to carry it for her. As always he is there to take care of her, making sure she has everything she needs from directions to a toothbrush and a cell phone charger. Pam confirms she has each item on the list with a little twinkle in her eye. She loves how he is looking out for her in every conceivable way. There is no pouting or whining, just genuine support and encouragement which makes taking such a scary step a little bit easier. Part of her finds his fussing over every detail cute and amusing. He’s just as nervous as she is about her little adventure. It’s impossible not to love a man that cares so much.

Pam’s anticipation to embark on her three month adventure is apparent in a talking head where she explains why she is leaving. As she speaks about attending the Pratt Institute, her eyes are afire with excitement and pride in herself for taking such a chance. She is flooded with happiness she never had when sitting behind her receptionist desk. She is positively glowing with a spark that has been steadily growing since Season 3. Pam truly believes she can do this which only bolsters her confidence and giddiness for the path she is about to travel. Part of her knows, Old Pam would never have attempted anything like this, so it’s a personal victory in many regards.

Although Pam’s excitement is the dominant emotion, it is possible to detect touches of fear and apprehension. It’s only natural to feel a little nervous when making such a huge change. Pam makes the comment, “I will be a little fish in the Big Apple” showing that she is somewhat daunted by the task at hand. She knows she's the small town girl in a gigantic sea of possibilities and it will take every ounce of confidence she has to find her way. It’s too easy to feel insignificant and give up. Breaking through familiarity to find a new and different path is a challenge she has take on with all her strength. Furthermore, she will be doing it primarily on her own. Everyone she knows and counts on for support will be in another state. Phone calls and weekend visits are nice, but essentially Pam is one woman show.

Despite the challenges ahead, Pam’s confidence and humor are off the charts. These two saving graces will be her secret weapons while navigating Pratt, New York and anything else that crosses her path. She playfully looks into the camera and says, “What up 212?” with a hand signal to match. New York may be a challenge but Pam is ready to embrace it with an open mind and rock solid enthusiasm. She also proves she is a huge loveable dork.

Back at her desk, Dwight interrupts the packing party to ask Pam to send a few faxes for him. Jim immediately gets annoyed and pleads with Dwight, “C’mon man she goes to New York in like ten minutes.” Pam is annoyed too, but for reasons different from Jim. Here she is ready to chase her dreams and Dwight dampens by pulling her back to the reception desk. Pam hates how Dwight refuses to see her as anything else but a receptionist. It’s how she used to view herself just a few years ago. True, she still technically has ten minutes remaining before she steps out of this role, but she wants Dwight and everyone else to see her as being capable of more. Her face is painted with annoyance on so many levels. Jim is the only one who ever saw that spark in her. Why can’t Dwight? Or Michael or anyone else? It’s here that Pam’s two worlds begin to split apart with one anchoring her to a desk and a ringing phone while another pulls her towards a life she’s only imagined.

Saying Goodbye:

Pam walks out to her car with Jim by her side. For the moment it looks as if they will escape a horribly awkward “Michael goodbye.” However, all hope of that is lost as Michael runs into the parking lot to Pam’s car out of breath and disheveled. Apparently he has written her a long goodbye poem that ends with the word “seagulls.” All Pam has to do is wait for him to go back upstairs and get it. Pam manages to wiggle out of it by telling him she needs to get on the road. However, Michael is crushed. Being the warm hearted person she is, she lets Michael down easily by telling him, “I’m sure it was lovely.” Pam doesn’t want to hurt his feelings, but she also doesn’t want to be the victim of what promises to be a horrible poem. As always, Pam and Jim take on the role parent when it comes to Michael. They take care of him and keep his behavior in check, while also making sure he doesn’t get hurt. She starts the car to give Michael a subtle hint that his poem will remain forever silent.

Jim leans in to give her a kiss goodbye, along with a request to call him when she arrives in New York. In yet another way, he is taking care of her. Pam can’t help but melt just a little bit more. She looks at him with a silent “I love you” as well as a “thank you” for making this a little bit easier on her with his unflinching support and belief in her. She knows he’ll be there through it all, waiting patiently as she chases her dreams. It means everything to her. Pam knows what it’s like not to have that, so her appreciation runs deep. Of course, what would a meaningful moment with Jim be without an interruption from Michael. He too leans over in an attempt to give Pam a kiss goodbye, but she manages to deflect it. Ewwww. Jim grabs onto Michael’s shoulders as a means to keep him under control, like any good dad. Pam is grateful her partner in parenting saved her from a Michael kiss. Despite the awkwardness of the moment, it’s actually the perfect send off. How could she have expected anything less?

Pam takes a deep breath as she shifts her car into drive. This is the moment where everything begins to change. She sneaks one more look at Jim and waves goodbye with a little smile. His face is the last thing she wants to see before heading out to the unknown. A few fears and nerves start to rattle, but they are nothing beyond perfectly normal jitters. It’s hard to leave Jim and everything that she knows, but this is something she has to do for herself. This part sucks, but it’s going to be great.

Ooops. The Wrong Class:

Pam walks into a classroom with her computer in tow like everyone else, but that’s where the similarities end. She looks out of place. She is dressed like a receptionist while everyone else is dressed like a student. Old habits die hard. Pam’s focus may be on setting up her computer, but she can see she doesn’t fit in, which creates it’s own set of nerves. She finally settles into her seat as the professor walks in, but she’s still a little daunted by her surroundings. The professor makes a joke about resetting her clock to Zapf Chancery. Everyone in the room laughs, but Pam doesn’t get what’s funny. She smiles anyway in an attempt to save face. Once the professor slides the board over to reveal the title of the class, Pam is horrified to find she is in the wrong class. It’s every student’s worst first day fear. She looks to her only "friend," the camera to voice her mistake.

Pam tries to sneak out of the class, but is almost immediately caught by the professor. The professor again tries to make a joke, "And looks like I'm boring someone already." Pam is too horrified to defend herself. Once again, Pam finds herself in the uncomfortable position of being the center of attention and embarrassed. The professor demands that she take a seat and Pam feels backed into a corner. She’s already made a scene and is in no hurry to make it any worse. Pieces of Old Pam start to bubble to the surface as Pam moves back to her seat. Her confidence is shaken, creating a breach in FNB’s strength. Therefore, she falls into the old habit of backing down instead of standing strong with self assertion. Given the situation, it’s entirely understandable. Pam once again finds herself as the outcast, only this time it was among strangers. It’s tough to be strong when singled out, embarrassed, and outnumbered.

Video Chat/Talking Head #2:

A more relaxed Pam shows up on Jim’s laptop screen for a video chat. FNB is back full of energy as she begins to adjust to life at the Pratt Institute. Her face glows with happiness when she sees Jim. It’s so hard to be apart, but the magic of technology helps to make him feel a little bit closer. Even if it doesn’t always go smoothly at first. wink.gif The first noticeable change is Pam’s wardrobe. She is dressed much more casually and looks the part of a student, in a t-shirt and a cute sweater. It’s a vast departure from the last time she was spotted at school! Jim is quick to ask her about her day and Pam is quick to respond. There are so many new and exciting things going on around her and she is anxious to tell Jim. She knows he will want to hear every detail, which again means everything to her. She begins to rattle off activities ranging from lunch with a girl down the hall, a ceramics class, and plans to eat dinner and watch T.V. Jim listens to every word; a fact that does not escape Pam for one moment. She even teases him that she’s going to Bungalow 8 with John Mayer. The humor they share is always something she can count on. It makes up for being on the outs with a certain professor’s humor.

The comfort of “being” with Jim soon interrupted by both Dwight and Michael. Even being two hours away in New York can’t keep the insanity of Dunder Mifflin away for very long. Michael is ecstatic to see Pam on the computer screen and quickly dominates the conversation. Pam’s face shifts immediately from happy to annoyed as she waves to Michael. Michael picks up the computer and spins her around to everyone in the office. She can see everyone except the one person she wants to see - Jim. In fact, she’s not even looking up when the entire office waves to her. Michael continues to jumble the computer all around the office until he places it on Pam’s old desk to face the woman who is filling in as the receptionist. Michael introduces Pam to Ronnie in his usual inappropriate way. Pam is not interested in meeting this woman at all. It’s weird to meet a replacement who does her job. To make things even more awkward, Michael begins to complain about Ronnie’s job performance. He crosses the line when he says, “All she does is plop herself down there and answer phones all day.” Pam feels herself getting pulled into her old world, the one where receptionist was a word that defined her. The only way to she can fight through it is with a little sarcasm as she responds with, “The nerve.” Michael pulls her in further by asking where he can find his favorite colored paper clips. From a dorm room in New York she is stuck having to do the job she is trying to so hard to leave. Michael carries her over to the supply shelf as if she were really there. Her two worlds are literally colliding, pulling her in two very different directions. It’s the same concept from when Dwight asked to send a fax ten minutes before she left for New York. As she sits in her dorm room chasing her dreams, Michael refuses to see her as anything else but a receptionist.

Pam even finds herself in the familiar position of giving a talking head. Her excitement is again evident as she babbles on about her experiences, “New York is so exciting. I love my classes. The city's awesome.” Despite a few hiccups in the beginning, she has settled into her adventure quite nicely. While she wants to tell all about her life in New York, she doesn’t want to tell the camera. She wants to tell Jim. It’s almost as if her first few statements are to simply placate the camera crew. Doing a talking head feels like the old life, rather than the new. For someone who is trying to blaze a new trail for herself, backtracking is the last thing she wants to do. Her two worlds continue to pull at her, one on each arm. Besides that, a video chat talking head is just odd. She politely asks, “Uh, can you give me back to Jim now, please?” Jim is the only part of her old life that she wants to take with her. No matter how far she goes, she will always come back to Jim.

Bottom Line:
The separate spheres of old and new have created a whole new dichotomy for Pam to navigate.

Questions to Ponder:

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

I’m a little rusty after the summer hiatus! But it was fun to jump right back into the game. Hopefully, this update is an enjoyable read and brain workout for everyone, (cut me a little slack, though. The migraine medicine makes me a little dopey wink.gif). Next, I will be writing Part 1 for JP next in order to launch the season 5 thread for Jim. Stay tuned for that as well as Part 2 for Weight Loss here on the PD.

I’m looking forward to reading everyone’s QTP answers! It’s been so long since we’ve had a fresh batch. I’ve missed it so much. Have fun and remember to play nice! smile.gif

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Thanks always for reading! smile.gif
Pam_6.0
Hey SB! How is it that your update has been posted for nearly 12 hours and I'm the first one to respond? Everyone must still be getting into the groove of new episodes. Anyway, I enjoyed reading your analysis. The thing I love the most is realizing how much I missed while watching the episode. I didn't notice that Pam was wearing "receptionist" clothes on her first day of class and (silly me) it didn't even occur to me to try to figure out how much she weighs. I was just focused on how Holly still thinks Kevin is mentally challenged (Math's hard. LOL). Anyway, I love that about your analyses. I don't have time right now to tackle the QTP, but will try to do that later. Just wanted to say thanks and it's great to have the PD and JP to look forward to again after the long summer.
LizzyWizzy
Once again I find myself impressed by your ability to channel out the main spirit of Pam’s inner workings. Great job SB.

I so enjoyed reading this. Although I certainly loved Jim and Pam’s happy bubble last season I’m thinking I’m going to enjoy deciphering this season’s twists and turns more.


I’m going to give the questions a try although they were really hard this time around wink.gif

Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.

This is a difficult question. Okay…stating the obvious there, but as you pointed out SB, Pam is in between worlds right now.
I think the new world probably pulled strongly at the start of her time in New York, when everything was exciting and new and the home-sickness and workload hadn’t begun to weigh in yet. Everyone who has left home to go study knows what an exciting, yet scary time it is. It is easy to get wrapped up in everything that’s new and exciting. As time goes by and she experiences the normal ups and downs of higher education I imagine she also at times feel the pull of her old world strongly. I don’t know for sure how long Pam has worked as a receptionist, but it’s safe to assume that she’s spent most of her twenties at Dunder Mifflin. It is an awesome achievement on her part to take on a challenge like this.
Okay…to answer your question….for now (up until the sequences of the episode you have discussed so far) I think her new world has the strongest grip on her.

What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?
First she has to figure out exactly what she wants. Where does Pam see herself in ten years? And what is acquired of her to get there?
Is she content to go home to Scranton after the three-months, or is she smitten by big-city living? Seeing how she positively radiated happiness and joy throughout this episode I’m wondering if her quest to seek self-realisation isn’t a little bit stronger than I thought. Your next question ties nicely to this. If Pam want’s to continue her education or career, will this correspond with her plans with Jim? I believe the balance between what she wants for herself and what she wants for Jim and her will determine whether she can make that transition.

What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)
That this new world of hers is so much bigger than her old one, and that she’s strong enough and smart enough to succeed there.
whorishgreenstreamer
Hello, SB!

I'm kinda new here -- I discovered your awesome threads in the middle of last year and became an instant, albeit lurking, fan.

But this year, I'm not going to lurk! I too will have to tackle your questions later today -- too much brainwork to squeeze in during the lunch hour! I just wanted to say thank you for doing this.

WhorishGreen

(Not to be confused with WhorishOrange, who came before me and rightfully deserves the full credit for the Whorish name. :-) If I could change my name, I would -- I didn't know the name was taken when I first registered.)
scrantonbranch
^^^ Welcome whorishgreenstreamer!

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But this year, I'm not going to lurk! I too will have to tackle your questions later today -- too much brainwork to squeeze in during the lunch hour! I just wanted to say thank you for doing this.


It's great to have you on board! I can't wait to read your thoughts. Thanks so much for reading!

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Hey SB! How is it that your update has been posted for nearly 12 hours and I'm the first one to respond? Everyone must still be getting into the groove of new episodes.


Hey Pam 6.0! It’s great to see you back! It usually takes a while for a new thread to catch on. Everyone is so used to the Season 4 thread. It shouldn’t be too long before everyone finds the Season 5 thread. At least I hope so! huh.gif

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Anyway, I enjoyed reading your analysis. The thing I love the most is realizing how much I missed while watching the episode. I didn't notice that Pam was wearing "receptionist" clothes on her first day of class and (silly me) it didn't even occur to me to try to figure out how much she weighs.


I didn’t catch on to either one of these things until a couple of viewings. The first weigh-in was a stumper the first time I saw it. I’m really interested to see if anyone has a different take on that scene.

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Just wanted to say thanks and it's great to have the PD and JP to look forward to again after the long summer.


Thanks! It’s good to back!

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QUOTE (LizzyWizzy @ Sep 29 2008, 01:14 PM) *
Once again I find myself impressed by your ability to channel out the main spirit of Pam’s inner workings. Great job SB.


Thank you so much! smile.gif

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I so enjoyed reading this. Although I certainly loved Jim and Pam’s happy bubble last season I’m thinking I’m going to enjoy deciphering this season’s twists and turns more.


Me, too. It’s going to be a great season, full of interesting things for us to analyze! Glad you enjoyed the read.


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I’m going to give the questions a try although they were really hard this time around wink.gif


Ooops. Sorry. I read through them this morning and realized they are tougher than usual. I’m not even sure how to answer them, yet!

Your answers rocked! smile.gif I'm hoping to start responding to QTP posts in a day or two.
deltacogirl
Questions to Ponder:

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.
At the point where the analysis ends, Dunder Mifflin is the stronger pull, by far. She doesn't really know people in New York yet, she's still doing things that she would have done as the receptionist, like finding the paper clips and doing the talking head. If the stronger pull were New York, she would have told Michael to give her back to Jim much sooner, or at least faked like she had to get going, and then talked to Jim after Michael went back to his office. I think she still feels a bit lost, although she's excited about New York. It's difficult to really attach yourself to a new place when most of the people you know are back home. Once she makes more friends, I think it might switch.

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?

She needs to make more friends. I think breaking out of the receptionist role would mean being more assertive in life, and I think she'll have the opportunity to be someone who has opinions and shares them (with more than just Jim) if she makes new friends that she has things in common with. When she was with Roy, it seemed like she didn't spend much time with anyone besides Roy, possibly his friends, and the people at work. She needs to find new people to be a new person. The great exception to this is Jim, who has always believed in her, wanted to hear her thoughts and opinions, and finds her very interesting.

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)
That she's not automatically going to be someone that people love in a city that big. She was friendly with everyone in the office, even if not actually friends with them. It's much more difficult to do that in a big city. She's going to have to work at it.
momimouse
1)Which of Pam's two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new. Explain.At this point, its the new. She's in a new and exciting place, with new experiences and people and classes where she is allowed to flex her creative muscles. She's never been able to do this before so its all very exciting to Pam. I believe its very possible for Pam to feel the pull towards DM and Scranton more strongly later on as the city becomes more commonplace to her and less like something new and different.

2) 2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?She's already done the most important things, and that is to physically move away from Scranton and DM.

The thing is, I don't think Pam knows yet exactly what kind of life she wants for herself. We know she wants to do something for a living that is based in art, we know she wants to be Jim's wife, and we know from the GT talking head that she wants a family. I feel like whether she can transition into the life she wants kind of depends on what that is. If she wants to become a super cool city girl whose career is her whole life, then she may have to give up her life with Jim, since he doesn't seem to want that city life. If she wants more to be a wife and mother to Jim's children, she may have to settle for something less glamorous but still meaningful to her and artistic in nature. I am very curious to see how the showrunners contend with all the questions left up in the air and how Pam's role fits into the office scenario.

3) 3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)
Well, I think its that some of her fears were unfounded. I assume Pam's fears were based in the fact that she'd be in a place where she knew no one, in a strange new environment and she would be away from Jim, who has always been her support system.

Now we know she's made friends(went to lunch with a girl), she's said in her TH that she was enjoying the city and Jim is doing a pretty good job of making her feel like she still has his support. Now that she's learned this lesson, she can feel comfortable and confident to find out what she wants out of life.



Pam_6.0
It's been a very long time since I've answered the QTP. It felt good to exercise my brain in that way again. blink.gif I composed my answers before reading anyone else's, so if I repeat anything I apologize (and I wholeheartedly agree! wink.gif ) and if my answers seem way out in left field, well, I apologize for that, too (just call me crazy!)

1)Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.

I’m going to answer this question based on Part 1 scenes only. My answer might be different if I included Part 2 (though it might not be). I think that her new world of school is pulling her more strongly right now. She seemed excited when she packed up her car to make the drive to NY. She is definitely going to miss Jim, but he is being supportive of her choice to attend school and she did not seem hesitant at all. She also seemed more annoyed that usual when dealing with the antics of the people at DM. I sensed in her a feeling of “I can’t wait to get out of here”. And it seemed to me that she was very impatient when she had to deal with Michael’s antics while she was on video chat with Jim. Yet, when she was describing her day to Jim, even though it was fairly tame and not very exciting, she seemed happy. She also seemed confident and happy when she was attempting to set up her computer in her first class. I sensed in Pam a sense of excitement to be embarking on this new journey.

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?

First I think we would have to determine what exactly it is that Pam wants for herself. I suppose at this point it would seem that Pam wants to complete her graphic design internship and that she wants to be with Jim. I would assume that she also wants to use the internship as a way to help her secure a new job in graphic design. So, I think Pam is doing just what she needs to be doing right now – going to school and still maintaining her relationship with Jim as best as she can long distance. From there, she will have to have the courage to look for and accept a new job. Yes, I think it’s possible for Pam to make that transition. As a matter of fact, I think that she has cleared the biggest hurdle simply by applying for and accepting the internship and moving to NY. That took a lot of guts for Pam, especially in light of the fact that she finally had a relationship with Jim. And I for one, am glad that she didn’t stay in Scranton simply because she was afraid of losing Jim. Pam is taking care of her own needs right now and that gives me confidence that she will be able to take all necessary steps to transition into the life she wants for herself.


2)What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

I’m not really sure about this one. I know I was hoping Pam would speak up and tell the professor that she was in the wrong class. I hope she learned that she needs to stand up for herself a bit more. Though there is nothing to indicate she came away from that encounter with that knowledge.

Perhaps she has learned that she can’t shed DM simply by moving to NY. She did seem to figure that out during her video chat with Jim. So far, I would say that is what she has learned.
Lenny9987
I was so surprised to see the update so soon. With the extra week I thought you'd post the entire update in one piece. I'm glad you didn't wait to finish the whole thing before posting, just surprised. wink.gif

QUOTE (scrantonbranch @ Sep 29 2008, 12:36 AM) *
The comfort of “being” with Jim soon interrupted by both Dwight and Michael. Even being two hours away in New York can’t keep the insanity of Dunder Mifflin away for very long. Michael is ecstatic to see Pam on the computer screen and quickly dominates the conversation. Pam’s face shifts immediately from happy to annoyed as she waves to Michael. Michael picks up the computer and spins her around to everyone in the office. She can see everyone except the one person she wants to see - Jim. In fact, she’s not even looking up when the entire office waves to her. Michael continues to jumble the computer all around the office until he places it on Pam’s old desk to face the woman who is filling in as the receptionist. Michael introduces Pam to Ronnie in his usual inappropriate way. Pam is not interested in meeting this woman at all. It’s weird to meet a replacement who does her job. To make things even more awkward, Michael begins to complain about Ronnie’s job performance. He crosses the line when he says, “All she does is plop herself down there and answer phones all day.” Pam feels herself getting pulled into her old world, the one where receptionist was a word that defined her. The only way to she can fight through it is with a little sarcasm as she responds with, “The nerve.” Michael pulls her in further by asking where he can find his favorite colored paper clips. From a dorm room in New York she is stuck having to do the job she is trying to so hard to leave. Michael carries her over to the supply shelf as if she were really there. Her two worlds are literally colliding, pulling her in two very different directions. It’s the same concept from when Dwight asked to send a fax ten minutes before she left for New York. As she sits in her dorm room chasing her dreams, Michael refuses to see her as anything else but a receptionist.

I love that as he's carrying her to the supply shelf when she passes Jim he waves and there's a slight delay before she waves back. It was so sweet.

Questions to Ponder:

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.
I think that her old world is pulling her slightly stronger but she's fighting really hard to keep on track. Obviously there are parts of her old life that she's more than willing to go back to (Jim). Especially as the program draws to an end, she's going to need to keep up her momentum towards her new life and goals. The fears and insecurities about being able to continue and find a new job in her desired field will pop up again. But Jim won't let her simply give anything up that would make her happy (as we all know).

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?
She's going to need Jim's support for anything she attempts. I think it's quite possible for Pam to make the transition, it'll be difficult while planning a wedding (though I don't think she'll have to do nearly as much on her own the way she did with Roy) but I think she'll find a manageable balance.

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)
She's learned that she doesn't have to let go of everything to move forward and that she'll be able to find people and circumstances that make her comfortable. The friend she makes is very much like Jim. She's not going to transfer her feelings for Jim to this new friend (though there are those who are worried about whether that will happen or not); but she's managed to use her experiences with Jim to help with making friends and creating an environment comforting to her. I hope that that makes sense. I'm not doing well with converting my thoughts into coherent sentences right now. Hopefully I'll be making more sense with part two.

Great analysis, SB (like there was any doubt). You could never tell that you haven't been working like this all summer. wink.gif
Office_holic
Questions to Ponder:

1) Which of Pam's two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.

At the moment, her 'right now' world...school...is her main concern. I dont consider Jim/Scranton old, he is the right now for her, so she is fine. As with going to school she is jumping into a new pool. I think she is swimming pretty well despite finding the wrong classroom.

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?

I think its a bit early to see her wants and needs focused till she gets further along into school. I dont think that Jim is put on the back burner of her life, he is there without having to actually be right there to guide her. She is confident enough in her and Jims relationship to say 'hey hold on I met some people' She had no discomfort telling him this and I think that is a good thing.

3) What's the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

Read the school map a bit better. And there are surprises now and then when she opens a door.

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DwightSchruteForVP
This is the first time that I have tried to answer any QTPs, so if my answers seem like they have come from left field, please be patient with me:

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.

This is kind of a hard question because as of part one, both worlds are pulling at Pam. But if I to chosen between the two, I would say her new world has the stronger pull on her right now. This is because for the first time she is in an environment that offers her totally new and unlimited possibilities, something that cannot really be said for Dunder-Mifflin Scranton. She has started to enjoy her classes and is even making friends with people who share her same artistic skills. Also, Pam is beginning to feel comfortable enough in New York to venture outside of her dorm to see what else lies beyond the Pratt Institute. But I think the old world is still going to try to pull at Pam as her classes continue at Pratt.

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?


In order for Pam to make the transition from a receptionist, she first needs to get out of Dunder-Mifflin and go to an environment where she can totally concentrate on developing her artistic skills. She has already accomplished this by going to the Pratt Institute. I guess after she finishes her training she then needs to figure out if she needs more training or if she might want to try to get an internship so she can get some experience using her new skills in a work environment. This last part about what Pam does once her classes end at Pratt will be very interesting to watch since it has implications as to whether or not she returns to her job as a receptionist. But I am confident that she can and will make this transition.

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

The biggest lesson that she has learned so far is that she can thrive outside of Scranton and that with some hard work she can begin to make the transition to a life beyond the receptionist desk of Dunder-Mifflin.
BlueJeanBaby05
I love this concept of Pam being pulled by two her two worlds and feel like I can relate to her struggles and challenges that come associated with that.


Questions to Ponder:

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.


Currently, I believe the old world has a stronger grip overall. I say this, because of how quickly she can become deflated sometimes. Take for examples, the weigh in, Dwight at reception and her first day of class (I would think it would actually be less-embarassing to just say, "Sorry, I'm in the wrong class . . ." then to stick around and have everyone's eyes on you, but then again, the cameras would have had to follow her out and that would have been even more embarrassing and attention grabbing).

But it's hard to give up the old (look how long she stuck around Roy), especially when there's so much sentimentality attached and even when there is so much promise in the future. The past is still a part of who you are and who you become and I have no doubt that Pam wishes that the things/people of her old world would look as fondly upon her and remember her as she looks upon them and will remember them.

All that being said, I think the new world will win (in terms of grip) in the end. This is what FNB is working towards and Pammy is starting to grow up. She's had a taste of the new world and I have feeling her hunger is just going to grow and get stronger. It will overpower her need to stay in the old world as it is. (Unless she can find some kind of harmonous relationship between the two worlds.)

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?

Second question first: Absolutely it is possible. In fact, I'm very confident she will make that transition.

But in think in order to successfully make that transition, she's going to have to make some choices and most likely give up some things in her old world. Pam's growing up now, and it's time to make some adult decisions. I think that will be tough for her, but I also think she can do it.

Other than that, she's already on the right path.

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

I don't know why I'm having a hard time with this question. I'm just going to say that she's learning that she can do this.



Yay! I'm looking forward to the next installment! smile.gif
Jam__Lover
ugg i have a headache and I'm not going to even try to answer those QTP...they're hard! I'm glad you have posted already. I can't wait for the new season! All summer I had nothing to live for...now I live for thursdays!
scrantonbranch
Oh, WOW! I'm so excited to see so many QTP responses already! Those were some tough questions! Looks like I'll be doing a little reading tonight -- Cool beans! Thanks so much to everyone who left kudos. After such a long time without writing an update, it's good to know I'm on the right track. smile.gif

O-h, thanks for posting that a-ma-zing wallpaper. I'm going to put in on my desktop immediately! wub.gif

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I was so surprised to see the update so soon. With the extra week I thought you'd post the entire update in one piece. I'm glad you didn't wait to finish the whole thing before posting, just surprised. wink.gif


Lenny, my original plan was to post the whole thing, but there are two very different themes present in this episode so I had to split it up in order to explore both with a high level of detail. Jim in particular experiences a big shift. A two parter can express that better than one. Plus, we've got the time, so why not use it. wink.gif I'm glad to hear having the update in two parts is not a disappointment. I was nervous about making that choice. smile.gif

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Keep those QTP answers and random observations coming! I'm so excited to see old friends coming back along with brand new faces. biggrin.gif
whorishgreenstreamer
Hi, SB --

I am sorry to say that I wrote a long, truly brilliant response to your three QTPs, but something happened to make them disappear. I will try to answer them again later!

WhorishGreen
scrantonbranch
QUOTE (whorishgreenstreamer @ Sep 29 2008, 09:45 PM) *
Hi, SB --

I am sorry to say that I wrote a long, truly brilliant response to your three QTPs, but something happened to make them disappear. I will try to answer them again later!

WhorishGreen


Oh no! ohmy.gif This happens to at least one person for each episode! Our secondary motto around here is to do your post in Word first, then copy and paste. Believe me, it's worth the extra few steps to save your sanity. I've lost many a post and it's horrible!

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I'm off to go work on Part 1 of the JP, but I'll be checking in periodically to read posts. Keep them coming! smile.gif
whorishgreenstreamer
QUOTE (scrantonbranch @ Sep 29 2008, 09:49 PM) *
Oh no! ohmy.gif This happens to at least one person for each episode! Our secondary motto around here is to do your post in Word first, then copy and paste. Believe me, it's worth the extra few steps to save your sanity. I've lost many a post and it's horrible!

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I'm off to go work on Part 1 of the JP, but I'll be checking in periodically to read posts. Keep them coming! smile.gif


Aah. Excellent tip. Makes perfect sense. Thank you!
Pam_Halpert_1
Oh man I am drooling just thinking about QTP's and all that stuff. I am so excited for this season, like BJB I feel I can relate to Pam so much it is scary.

That being said... I am going to be a good student and go study for my test tomorrow. This season I actually schedule PD and JP time into every week! I love it. I am such a nerd.. but I so do not care!
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
A great first analysis for what promises to be a fabulous season!

I'm going to think about and chew on the QTP's until tomorrow, but I just loved reading your observations about Pam. Especially the whole weigh in scene. So true.

It's nice to be back in the warm arms of the PD!

PS. Jim and Pam are engaged. I don't know if you know that yet. wub.gif



whorishgreenstreamer
Hi, SB --

Here's my first attempt at the QTBs. Well, this is actually my second attempt, because the first version ended up in cyber space.

I read a couple of the responses earlier today, but I tried to keep my answers original. I hope I didn't copy anyone's thoughts. If I did, please know it was purely accidental, and I hope the poster will take it as a compliment!

Questions to Ponder:

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.

The old world is stronger for the first part of this episode. At the beginning, we see Pam eating in the conference room with all her coworkers, and she cheers when Michael makes his “last meal” announcement. When they go to the weigh-in, she steps onto the scale without hesitation. Now Pam is a smart girl. She knew she would not be in Scranton for the subsequent weigh-ins; why does she assume she should be part of the first weigh-in? In fact, one of the looks she gives the camera when Michael tells her to get off the scale struck me as a “I knew better than this” look. She is still firmly planted in the DM world. Flipping the switch to Pam’s Brave New World is not as easy as she thought it would be.

When Jim is quizzing her about what she has packed, she says “I have everything.” This blew me away! Although her expression doesn’t really show it, if you just listen to the words, she is saying “I have all the things I want and need. I have a soulmate. I have the beginning of my dream career. I have everything.” I think this is the moment she begins her journey.

By the time we get to the video chat, she has made a huge leap into the New World. Her excitement is palpable. She claps her hands and laughs like an ecstatic child. She is almost giddy as she talks with Jim. But it only takes Michael’s intrusion to deflate her excitement and we see the pull Scranton has on her. Her head drops and several times, she seems to avoid eye contact with the camera. (One thing I loved about this scene was Dwight's line "Can you turn the girl off, please?" Hahaha! Jim Halpert only turns girls on! But this line could also refer to Pam flipping the switch from old world to new. Could Dwight be asking if Jim can turn the switch back to old world?)

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?

One thing she’s going to have to do is separate Jim from Dunder-Mifflin and Scranton. Not literally, but in her mind, she can’t link the two, or she’ll never make the transition. Can she do it? Yes.

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

Pam’s confidence is growing and definitely picking up speed.

I really enjoyed thinking about all this. I am a hopeless romantic, and JAM is my favorite romance. Thanks for giving us the opportunity to ponder!

WhorishGreen
Felicia401
Okay, this is my first try at the QTP questions! Yay! Scrantonbranch, I have read your work for years--literally years--and after watching the premier, I decided to sign up with NBC and give it a crack. I hope I don’t let you down!

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.

I think the old world is pulling at her stronger at this point. She isn’t doing much besides watching TV, eating dinner by herself and going to class. She has homesickness like every new college student because she has yet to find her way. Home and Jim are a safe haven for her when things are so new and scary.


2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?

When I read this question, I had to think about what kind of life does Pam want for herself. The answer is simple-- she wants a life as an artist AND a life with Jim. So, the part she must do is incorporate both dreams together. It seems to me (and I may be completely wrong) that she is pursuing both dreams separately. She has to include him in the picture at all times. She has to think of his needs and wants too. It’s just not all about her. She is so caught up in the thrill of doing what she’s always wanted that if she’s not careful, she can lose sight of the one person who means the most to her: Jim. It is possible to make that transition. Definitely. But IMHO, she has to reign herself in sometimes and make compromises that FNB may not like ie. move back to Scranton, pass up on a possible job, etc. She needs to think of not only what’s best for her, but what’s best for the relationship. It will be interesting to see how she works that out.


3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

I think she is learning that she’s really good at art and graphic design. Her confidence is so high right now because I suspect (I have no proof) that she has seen and compared herself to the other students and realized that she fits in. She is just as good as everyone else at Pratt and it is thrilling beyond words. She is now getting positive feedback from other people besides Jim. I had the similar experience when I went to college. I thought “Wow! I do belong here”. I can see that same excitement with Pam--and it is sooo fun to watch!
momimouse
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She has to include him in the picture at all times. She has to think of his needs and wants too. It’s just not all about her. She is so caught up in the thrill of doing what she’s always wanted that if she’s not careful, she can lose sight of the one person who means the most to her: Jim. It is possible to make that transition.


Whoa, Felicia, I love this! I totally agree and I believe this is what the majority of this season will be about as far as JAM goes.
Receptionitis15
Fantastic analysis, as always, scrantonbranch. This has really got me thinking about the episode in new ways and that's what I really love about reading your take on it.

So, wow, onto my first set of answers for the QTP...

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.

I think, at least at first, she feels a strong pull back and forth in both directions at different times. When she's in class or doing her thing in New York, she probably feels the thrill of her new life, but when something goes wrong (like going to the wrong class) or she goes back to her dorm alone and misses Jim, she undoubtedly feels attracted to the comfort and certainty of her old, familiar life too. But time will change that. The longer she is away from D-M, the more she'll get used to her new life, and that will start to become comfortable and familiar to her too. Also, I should add that although Jim is still at D-M, and so much of their past is tied up in that, I see him as existing outside of that world, because they have a relationship that goes way beyond work now. So no matter what life/world she finds herself in, he'll be a part of it.

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?

I loved the observation that when we see Pam in the wrong class she is in her work clothes and doesn't fit in with the other students. But when we see her later on, she is much more casual and doesn't stand out as much. It's about more than clothes, yes, but they are symbolic of the transition she is making in her life. She's becoming more relaxed, more confident in herself. She may not know exactly the life she wants, but at least she's figured out what she doesn't want, and that journey began as soon as she called off the wedding with Roy. Now that journey is continuing with Jim by her side and a growing confidence in herself. So yes, I think it's possible.

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

That she can do this. Her confidence is growing, and Jim will always be there to reassure her, but she must have had some lingering doubts. Years of second guessing herself with little in the way of encouragement (and perhaps the exact opposite) from her significant other must have left a mark on her psyche. She seemed so happy and surprised when she told Jim she was making friends, as if she didn't expect that to happen. And other than going to the wrong class on the first day, she does seem like she's settling into school life pretty well (at least, judging by the video chat). There's nothing like proving you can do something by actually doing it.
Office_holic
Oh i forgot to write in my reply that I am happy you split it into two parts since there is no new episode this week. It will extend the happiness a bit more!

I had a dream last night of Jim and Pam! ohmy.gif They were registering at a department store for china and Jim kept saying 'whatever you want, just pick it out'. Over and over, lol
Real_Pine
Hey SB,
I used to participate here a while back, but have just been lurking for the last half year or so. I simply can't deny my Office obsession, so I'm back! I enjoyed reading your posts on your trip to the convention and the summer's debates. But I'm thrilled for PD and JP S5!

Questions to Ponder:

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.

At this point, her new world. It's a whirlwind of newness, and she's totally caught up in it, rightly so. It's unfortunate that the reminders of her old world are primarly downers (hunting for colored paperclips??) but that's another main reason she is looking ahead and not looking back!

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?
She is on the right path, but we have yet to learn what she intends to do with this coursework. I'm definitely curious! Not in a creative field myself I have no idea what avenues are open to her realistically.

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)
I would say that there is simply no place for Old Pam in New York. She has to keep her confidence up to succeed here! And she is succeeding!

Also wanted to chime in on the scale question that you discussed with Pam 6.0 - the first thing that popped in my head when she got off the scale was that people would know her weight. Totally mortifiying. Without a doubt you interpreted that scene exactly as I did (although I tend to over obsess about weight, Pam doesn't, but I still don't question that is where the discomfort in that scene was coming from).

Great analysis SB and I hope it's never too late to rejoin the party! Off to read the rest of the responses!
LizzyWizzy
QUOTE (whorishgreenstreamer @ Sep 30 2008, 04:42 AM) *
When Jim is quizzing her about what she has packed, she says “I have everything.” This blew me away! Although her expression doesn’t really show it, if you just listen to the words, she is saying “I have all the things I want and need. I have a soulmate. I have the beginning of my dream career. I have everything.” I think this is the moment she begins her journey.
WhorishGreen


Wow, that's really well put.




QUOTE (Felicia401 @ Sep 30 2008, 06:05 AM) *
3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)
I think she is learning that she’s really good at art and graphic design. Her confidence is so high right now because I suspect (I have no proof) that she has seen and compared herself to the other students and realized that she fits in. She is just as good as everyone else at Pratt and it is thrilling beyond words. She is now getting positive feedback from other people besides Jim. I had the similar experience when I went to college. I thought “Wow! I do belong here”. I can see that same excitement with Pam--and it is sooo fun to watch!



I so know that feeling and I think you're absolutely right. She looks like someone who has found her shelf, at least for now. It will be so interesting so see what happens when the three months are up. I think it's even more spectacular for Pam(than for many others) to know and feel that she fits in at Pratt simply because for so long something like this seemed way too far out of reach for her. The more I see of happy Pam the more angry I get at Roy for holding her back all those years. At times I'm a bit amazed how these characters actually get to me.
dundermifflinthisisk
What a nice surprise to find the first post already up! I’m so glad you’re doing it in two parts SB, it will help keep me occupied with the extra week between episodes. It’s been awhile since I’ve been on but I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this thread and all the work you put into each analysis. Last year was particularly stressful for me — I was asked to chair a controversial/unpopular committee at school — knowing I could come home after some very long meetings and catch up on the PD and JP made it all the more bearable.

On a completely different note, my husband happens to teach at Pratt — just one course as an adjunct — and I keep asking him if he’s run into Pam yet. Such an Office dork. Actually, it’s great for the school’s profile, so many people associate Parsons with New York because of Project Runway, so it’s nice that Pratt gets to bask a little in the limelight.

Before I get to the QTP I really loved this insight of yours:

“The symbolism of this scene is slight, but it shows how Pam differs from her co-workers. She truly is the outcast in that she is taking steps to move on from dead end that is Dunder Mifflin. She wants more than picking up phones and sending faxes and she is doing something about it. Those on the scale are accepting of their fates while Pam is not. She stands apart from the rest for now, but only time will tell if she pulls away for good or rejoins them.”

I had a totally different take on this — I thought Pam looked a little excited initially, as in, ‘oh yeah, I’m not going to be here for this,’ but I like your take on it better. Scenes like this always make me wonder if the writers consciously load all this symbolism into the writing or it just sort of works out that way and we end up interpreting more than what was actually written.

Anyway, on to the QTP


1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.
Based on the happy expression she’s wearing, I’d say the new. Pam is really out of her element in a totally good way and everything she’s experiencing right now is new and strange and wonderful. Aside from being in the wrong class, she’s making the adjustment well and the natural result of that I think, would be more immersed in her new world than old. Sure she’s getting pulled back into her old world e.g. the search for colored paper clips, but these are just momentary lapses. As far as Jim is concerned, Pam is finding a way to balance these two worlds… rather than keep all these new experiences to herself, she is eager to share it all with her boyfriend at home.

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?
I get the sense that Pam has modest/realistic goals for herself. From Boys and Girls it was a husband she loves, a terrace that she’d read about in a book as a 12-year old girl and maybe something in graphic design. As much as Pam has changed I still don’t think she’s looking for a glamorous career in New York. She wants a more satisfying career where she can express herself and utilize her creative talents. So yes, I think it’s absolutely possible for Pam to fully make that transition; she just has to stick with it and believe in herself.

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)
Even within the confines of the Part I scenes, Pam has learned a crucial lesson — you can make your dreams happen. A lot of people talk about doing something different with their lives, but don’t act on it. Pam has taken a risk, moved out of her comfort zone and has found at least so far, that taking this leap can work out.

just_once
Hi. Gonna try to keep it simple, so here goes: smile.gif

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.
For now, I think her old world still has the stronger grip. Dwight with the fax; Michael refusing to let go before he chased her down to tell her about his poem, and then trying to kiss her goodbye which, by the way, took gross to a whole new level. Michael dominating her time when she and Jim tried to communicate via computer.

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?
She needs to keep gaining confidence in herself. I don't know if she would have trusted her own judgment to believe she could do the Pratt thing without Jim, but with him, she’ll have the confidence and support she needs to realize a successful transition into her new life sooner than later. It’s not only possible, but probable.

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

That she ain’t in Kansas anymore. wink.gif
scrantonbranch
I'm in the process of working on Part 1 for the JP, but I'm taking little breaks to read QTP responses here. All I can say is I am blown away by the observations I've read so far. You guys rock! These were tough QTPs and you guys have taken the analysis to whole new level. Thanks for adding so much! smile.gif


QUOTE (dundermifflinthisisk @ Sep 30 2008, 08:24 PM) *
Before I get to the QTP I really loved this insight of yours:

“The symbolism of this scene is slight, but it shows how Pam differs from her co-workers. She truly is the outcast in that she is taking steps to move on from dead end that is Dunder Mifflin. She wants more than picking up phones and sending faxes and she is doing something about it. Those on the scale are accepting of their fates while Pam is not. She stands apart from the rest for now, but only time will tell if she pulls away for good or rejoins them.”

I had a totally different take on this — I thought Pam looked a little excited initially, as in, ‘oh yeah, I’m not going to be here for this,’ but I like your take on it better. Scenes like this always make me wonder if the writers consciously load all this symbolism into the writing or it just sort of works out that way and we end up interpreting more than what was actually written.


I can honestly tell you we tend to find more symbolism than the writers intended, however, the symbolism we use to explain character development helps us get to the core message the writers are trying to convey. I like to think of symbolism as the mode of transportation we use to arrive at a conclusion. Very often, it's just my style to find a visual or symbolic means to explore a character's story. I'm a very visual person, so I look for visual cues. For example, my use of Toby's watch in the analysis of Goodbye, Toby turned out to be a symbolic device that I created to make a point. Initially I thought it was the writers, but later came to find out the writers did not intend it to have symbolic meaning. Everything we analyze on the PD/JP has a 50/50 chance of being the result of writer intent. A true victory is when we hit an intended piece of symbolism perfectly.

Btw, your initial take on that scene is very interesting. It didn't occur to me she might be thinking that, but it's very possible. It could be a secondary thought that crosses her mind. Nice work!

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Keep those posts coming! smile.gif
mybestfriend
Wow am surprised in a squee way for the first analysis, SB, I am late on the bandwagon but here goes (awesome analysis BTW)

Questions to Ponder:

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.


I think the answer will change from part I to part II. In part I, when she is just starting her adventure the draw is more NY due to its newness. When we begin a new course of our lives, it can be all consuming and I think that's where she is at the point of your analysis, SB. I believe she is secure enough in Jim and their relationship to let herself become fully committed to the NY experience. The literal turning point is the meet-up at the rest area (which I know is part II) but am going only to speak about the initial greeting here. Pam goes on about how she had to go more than halfway. This is both literal and figurative and tells me that she was so embroiled in the NY experience that it was hard for her to more than halfway back to the past. Make any sense?

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?

Toughest question in the bunch. I think she is doing what she needs to do now, she is getting her training, for just these 3 months she's living an untethered college girl life which is new for her, but what happens in part II may change that in that the tether, albeit a delightful one, comes back to reel her in.

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far?
(Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

She's learned that she is up to the challenge. She is doing the work well (ascii Dwight), making lunch friends, counseling her younger fellow students, finding her way in and around Pratt and NY. I think it is all good and she is facing it unfazed and bravely, ala FNB.
Real_Pine
QUOTE (mybestfriend @ Oct 1 2008, 07:17 AM) *
The literal turning point is the meet-up at the rest area (which I know is part II) but am going only to speak about the initial greeting here. Pam goes on about how she had to go more than halfway. This is both literal and figurative and tells me that she was so embroiled in the NY experience that it was hard for her to more than halfway back to the past. Make any sense?


I love this! And I am not just saying that because I agree, I really like the symbolism you found in her statement.

Also SB very interesting to know you've received feedback on the symbolism thing from the writers. Some of it's so on point, though, I can hardly believe the coincidence! Maybe this thread is actually tapping their subconcious to find symbolism they didn't even mean to put there! ph34r.gif
Pam_Halpert_1
Oh man getting back into the swing of things.. it is not as easy eh?
I am still so excited that season 5 is here!!

Questions to Ponder:

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.
I would say the new world, because it is new. The novelty of actually getting to go to school in New York for something she has always wanted to do is a dream Pam has had even before Jim. The newness of the people, place, and just academic world is really fascinating to Pam. Also I think Pam kinda assumes Jim will be there so she focuses more on this new area with out any worries about the old world. Plus her new world is a lot more active than her old world, there are new and exciting things I this new world she knows what is in the old world. My attention would focus on the “shinier” object. ( and yes there is a hidden meaning in that statement.. until part 2)

2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition?

It is very possible to make the transition. She needs to look forward at what she is accomplishing and praise herself everyday! Pam is still her own stumbling block, she just needs to be aware of what she can accomplish, and keep doing what she has been doing!

3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)

It is hard to make friends. Pam already knew this, but it had been a while sence she did not know anyone around her. Pam did not back down, she saw it was hard to make friends, and she made them. She has learned that even though this is a brand new enviroment, she can overcome it’s obsticales, and still be FNB. She now sees that FNB is really part of her and not because of the place she left behind.
BlueJeanBaby05
I kinda wonder? Are we sure that Pam didn't make any friends while she was in schooling in Scranton?? We hadn't seen many signs of that, but we also weren't given much of an opportunity. The closest we got to that view was in Business School, but that was different because that was more Old Pam and not so much FNB. In S4, Pam seemed more into a schooling and taken it even more seriously. And you would just think that maybe there were some more like-minded or creative-minded individuals (people who weren't working in a paper company) that she could have connected with in those classes while she was still close to home. I'm just curious.

Also, I heard a few people mention her learning that she's an talented artist while in New York. Do we really know that yet?? Last we saw (again Business School) she was kinda flailing as an artist. How do we know if her new-found honesty and courage has transferred yet in her art and design. We've seen some images of her own and they look good, but are they good enough for the competitive world?? And from my personal experience, the first few classes of higher-education always kinda left me feeling a little less talented, only because it seemed like there was quite a few far more talented (and experienced) artists/designers out there (but that just meant that I had/have a lot left to learn and room to grow, school would be kinda pointless if there was nothing to be learned).

I'm just kinda wondering out loud here. smile.gif
Fancy_New_Becca



Questions to Ponder:

1) Which of Pam’s two worlds is pulling at her with a stronger grip? The old or the new? Explain.
It seems pretty clear that Pam's new world has a very strong hold over her. There is a fresh new exciting world and she's entering it wide eyed and hopefull. She's still learning more an more about herself and how to carry herself and handle new situations. I'm sure that the idea of having a whole new career and path for herself has a very pull but she's to me, holding back still. I don't know if she knows what a good middle ground is for her and jim. She did take the risk and go after Jim at Beach Games and it changed everything...Jim then risked it to be with Pam and staying for her. Now, Pam is risking everything to do something for herself...and in a way leaving Jim.


2) What does FNB have to do in order to successfully transition into the life she wants for herself? Is it possible for her to make that transition? As much as I hate to say this, FNB will have to make a tough choice with Jim. It will either be She and Jim will need to take a break while Pam secures this new life for herself or she will cower and give it up in order to be with Jim. I dont know then if either choice would be a success



3) What’s the biggest lesson Pam has learned in New York, so far? (Try to stay within the confines of Part 1 scenes)
It's scary, but exciting and with alittle encouragement, she can get through it if she really tries

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I[m so happy SB you are back and working on these threads.. I adore these questions and everyones answers...it really gets you to thinking.
whorishgreenstreamer
Actually, after re-reading your analysis, SB, and reading the great responses here, and watching the episode again, I want to revise my answer to question 1. :-)

In the opening scene, Pam actually cheers when Michael mentions that it's the "last meal." She looks so happy, and now I'm thinking she's cheering because it's her last meal in her Old DM World. It's the last time she has to crowd into the conference room for one of Michael's off-the-wall meetings. And she looks thrilled! So maybe that world doesn't have quite the pull I thought it did.

Also, a random comment. I wondered all summer what the JAM goodbye scene would be like. I envisioned a great big ol' passionate kiss, so at first I was a little disappointed in the real scene. But the more I watch it, the more I see that it's perfect for them. It's so comfortable. No drama, no "I'm gonna miss you", no feelings of "this is really hard". They are so confident in the strength of their relationship. They don't need to say anything, because their love -- literally -- goes without saying.

I can't wait to read part 2. Thanks again for all you do!

WGS
scrantonbranch
^^^ wgs, I actually just pondered this scene yesterday for Jim. There is most definitely a reason why it was so casual and your observation is part of it. Stay tuned! smile.gif

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QUOTE (mybestfriend @ Oct 1 2008, 08:17 AM) *
Wow am surprised in a squee way for the first analysis, SB, I am late on the bandwagon but here goes (awesome analysis BTW)


It's awesome to see you again! Welcome back! smile.gif Usually, I don't respond to QTP answers until I get done with the JP, or finish my notes for Part 2 but this answer really struck me.

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The literal turning point is the meet-up at the rest area (which I know is part II) but am going only to speak about the initial greeting here. Pam goes on about how she had to go more than halfway. This is both literal and figurative and tells me that she was so embroiled in the NY experience that it was hard for her to more than halfway back to the past. Make any sense?


It's like you are reading my mind. I think you nailed it. smile.gif

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Are we on fire on this thread, or what!? I love it! biggrin.gif

momimouse
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I wondered all summer what the JAM goodbye scene would be like. I envisioned a great big ol' passionate kiss, so at first I was a little disappointed in the real scene. But the more I watch it, the more I see that it's perfect for them. It's so comfortable. No drama, no "I'm gonna miss you", no feelings of "this is really hard".


I thought the same as you. At first, I expected that since they had not been separated since getting together in the TJ. But after watching the episode, I really felt like they had done that before they got to work, in private. I do think there was probably a moment when they had a meaningful goodbye moment, we just weren't privy to it.
whorishgreenstreamer
QUOTE (momimouse @ Oct 1 2008, 09:17 PM) *
I thought the same as you. At first, I expected that since they had not been separated since getting together in the TJ. But after watching the episode, I really felt like they had done that before they got to work, in private. I do think there was probably a moment when they had a meaningful goodbye moment, we just weren't privy to it.


Oh, excellent point. Yes! I'm sure you're right. :-)

WGS
BlueJeanBaby05
QUOTE (momimouse @ Oct 1 2008, 09:17 PM) *
I thought the same as you. At first, I expected that since they had not been separated since getting together in the TJ. But after watching the episode, I really felt like they had done that before they got to work, in private. I do think there was probably a moment when they had a meaningful goodbye moment, we just weren't privy to it.


It also could have happened while the cameraman was busy watching Michael fall down the stairs.
scrantonbranch
QUOTE (BlueJeanBaby05 @ Oct 1 2008, 03:50 PM) *
I kinda wonder? Are we sure that Pam didn't make any friends while she was in schooling in Scranton?? We hadn't seen many signs of that, but we also weren't given much of an opportunity. The closest we got to that view was in Business School, but that was different because that was more Old Pam and not so much FNB. In S4, Pam seemed more into a schooling and taken it even more seriously. And you would just think that maybe there were some more like-minded or creative-minded individuals (people who weren't working in a paper company) that she could have connected with in those classes while she was still close to home. I'm just curious.


You're right, we didn't hear anything about Pam making any friends in her Scranton based class, but then again the cameras were more interested in how she related to Jim above all else. It's very likely that she made a few friends in Scranton, but DM cameras wouldn't really be around to catch it.

The importance of making friends in New York is a little more pronounced, because Pam went to New York by herself. She has no one in her surroundings she can count as a friend until she gets out there and makes them. Having people around her will make the experience more meaningful and will help her thrive.

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Also, I heard a few people mention her learning that she's an talented artist while in New York. Do we really know that yet?? Last we saw (again Business School) she was kinda flailing as an artist. How do we know if her new-found honesty and courage has transferred yet in her art and design. We've seen some images of her own and they look good, but are they good enough for the competitive world?? And from my personal experience, the first few classes of higher-education always kinda left me feeling a little less talented, only because it seemed like there was quite a few far more talented (and experienced) artists/designers out there (but that just meant that I had/have a lot left to learn and room to grow, school would be kinda pointless if there was nothing to be learned).


This is what I'm dying to find out about Pam! The last time we saw Pam's work, it was average. It's more than I could ever do, but it wasn't enough to make waves in the art world. I'm dying to see what she is capable of doing after taking more classes. We know she can put together some pretty good animation (DMI), but that was a long time ago. How far has she come in developing her talent? I hope her time in New York will gives us some idea of where she stands. We may find that she is immensely talented or she doesn't have what it takes to make a career in art happen. Either way, I'm proud of her for taking the chance.

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I'm just kinda wondering out loud here. smile.gif


By all means, keep wondering! wink.gif

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Part 1 for the JP is 50% completed. As usual, Jim is being a pain! It's taking me a little longer than I'd like, but I'm going to get most of it done before going to sleep tonight. smile.gif
BlueJeanBaby05
QUOTE (scrantonbranch @ Oct 1 2008, 10:51 PM) *
Either way, I'm proud of her for taking the chance.


I agree completely and am proud of her too. smile.gif
Receptionitis15
QUOTE (scrantonbranch @ Oct 1 2008, 11:51 PM) *
This is what I'm dying to find out about Pam! The last time we saw Pam's work, it was average. It's more than I could ever do, but it wasn't enough to make waves in the art world. I'm dying to see what she is capable of doing after taking more classes. We know she can put together some pretty good animation (DMI), but that was a long time ago. How far has she come in developing her talent? I hope her time in New York will gives us some idea of where she stands. We may find that she is immensely talented or she doesn't have what it takes to make a career in art happen. Either way, I'm proud of her for taking the chance.


I just had to speak to this. We know from Jim's comment "Goodbye Toby" that Pam had to send in sketches with her application to Pratt, so her art must have been at least good enough to get her into the program. All she had to do in Scranton was sign up for classes, but the fact that she got accepted to Pratt at all shows that someone out there thinks she's at least got some potential talent. I really hope that we actually get to see some of her art again this year.
scrantonbranch
QUOTE (Receptionitis15 @ Oct 2 2008, 01:25 AM) *
I just had to speak to this. We know from Jim's comment "Goodbye Toby" that Pam had to send in sketches with her application to Pratt, so her art must have been at least good enough to get her into the program. All she had to do in Scranton was sign up for classes, but the fact that she got accepted to Pratt at all shows that someone out there thinks she's at least got some potential talent. I really hope that we actually get to see some of her art again this year.



Oooo, good point. I have no doubt she's got talent, if she got into Pratt. But very often what gets someone into school, doesn't necessarily translate into a job. One of my biggest fears is watching Pam become a perpetual student. It's just another way to be stuck.

We are just going to have to wait and see how her time at Pratt plays out and where that program will lead her next. Until then, I'm hoping for the best.

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Part 1 for the JP is almost done! I'm hoping to have it posted late Thursday night. Hopefully, it'll make up for no new episode. smile.gif

Keep those PD QTP posts coming, as well as additional observations. I've really enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts. It's adding a whole new dimension to the episode and the analysis.
mybestfriend
QUOTE (scrantonbranch @ Oct 1 2008, 09:43 PM) *
^^^ wgs, I actually just pondered this scene yesterday for Jim. There is most definitely a reason why it was so casual and your observation is part of it. Stay tuned! smile.gif

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It's awesome to see you again! Welcome back! smile.gif Usually, I don't respond to QTP answers until I get done with the JP, or finish my notes for Part 2 but this answer really struck me.



It's like you are reading my mind. I think you nailed it. smile.gif

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Are we on fire on this thread, or what!? I love it! biggrin.gif


We are learning at the feet of the master, SB!
Pam_Halpert_1
OHH all the awesome thoughts going on in here!! I am like a little kid in a candy store!! TEHE

Sorry I would say more, but I have to drive a friend to the train station... hi ho kidos! ( wow I am in some kind of strange happy mood today)
scrantonmom
SB's QTPs have caused alot of thought especially the question about the two worlds that are pulling at Pam. My take on this is that Pam was not necessarily ever much a part of the DM-Scranton world that there is much pulling her back there except nostalgia and Jim, of course. Why do I think that? I think it may have been established/assumed that Pam graduated college.
So what does she do after that? Her High School boyfriend, Roy, went to work at DM right after graduation and now Pam is wondering what to do, not sure of her direction and so takes a job at DM to be close to Roy and until she maybe decides what to do with her degree, her dreams, her aspirations. One thing leads to another, the years pass, she and Roy become engaged and there is no one inspiring her to reach for her dreams. Then Jim Halpert comes along and things in the office look brighter and she slowly starts falling for him despite her commitment to Roy. These two guys are like night and day and for the time being she has what she considers the best of both worlds with these two guys-a fiance and a best friend unaware perhaps that the best of both worlds might mean a fiance and best friend might be one and the same person.
Why does Pam stay after she breaks it off with Roy and Jim leaves presumably forever to Stamford? Why does she stay even when Jim comes back with Karen? I don't think she is staying because of her loyalty to DM. Maybe she stays because she still lacks the self-confidence to move forward, maybe she stays because she is trying to figure out how to connect with Jim on a new level?
Jim is her lifeline, not anyone else at DM. Who does she connect with at DM that makes a difference to her? Even where she is physically situtated in the office makes her an outcast of sorts. She lacks even the chance to connect with anyone else like Stanley/Phyllis/Andy,Kevin/Oscar/Angela, Dwight/Jim. This was even re-inforced at the scale in "Weight loss".
So,in conclusion, I don't think there is much of a struggle for Pam finding out where she is in these two worlds. She, "has everything she needs" and now she can leave DM-Scranton temporarily or permanently and it will be okay with her self-confidence intact and with Jim.
scrantonbranch
Part 2 of the anlysis for Weight Loss is almost done!! I've got one more scene to go and it's the proposal. The plan is to head out to my favorite coffee shop tomorrow morning and finish. Stay tuned!

While you wait -- Check out the QTP answers that have already been posted on the JPS5. They are a great read! smile.gif
scrantonbranch
Weight Loss - Part 2

In the first half of Weight Loss, Pam left Scranton to complete a three month program at the Pratt Institute in New York. After a few stumbles, she is beginning to find her groove in terms of settling into the flow of school life and the difficulty of being separated from a man she loves deeply.

Pam and Jim continue to travel parallel paths that should end up in the same place when all is said and done. As she takes steps towards achieving her dreams, she remains by Jim’s side. As he creates a foundation for his life, he remains by her side. In the past, both have mirrored each other in terms of their individual personal journeys. This season is no different, but instead of similar developments, Pam and Jim are contrasting each other. In some ways it seems as though they are heading in opposite directions. Regardless, both are bringing something to the table that will both strengthen and challenge their relationship.

The concept of Pam’s two worlds -- old and new -- continues to create a new dynamic between herself and Jim. Pam continues to find her place in her new world, with new friends, new responsibilities, new insights in to herself, and new surroundings. Jim, however, is in the same place with the same people, his life essentially on hold as he waits for Pam to come home. The question becomes, how will Pam redefine herself after three months of eye-opening experiences? There’s no doubt she wants to be with Jim, but probably not in the same world where she is just a receptionist with big dreams. Will she even be able to fit back into that world? A world where Jim waits. In the second half of Weight Loss, Pam’s two worlds square off in a battle that is far from over. And now a new component of being engaged enters into the mix. With all the new things in Pam’s life, she will inevitably have the task of finding balance between old and new by defining how much of each world she wants in her life. Furthermore, the timing of combining old with new creates yet another puzzle to piece together. Much is changing and will continue to change. Keeping up will be a challenge.

Despite the widening gap of old and new, the connection between JAM continues to be unbreakable. Even as Pam shoots ahead with her dreams, her heart is still with Jim. She misses him just as much as he misses her. The cameras have shown more of Jim’s frustration with the separation, but Pam is feeling much the same way. She is experiencing so many amazing things that she wants nothing more than to share them with Jim. There is a hole in her New York that new friends just can’t fill. Both learned a couple of years ago they are no good when apart. Jim’s heartfelt and surprising proposal filled Pam’s heart with so much warmth and promise that their future holds nothing but happiness. Sure, there might be a few bumps along the way, but they have everything the need in each other to make it through any obstacle. There might just be a third “world” that encompasses something even newer or better than either could have imagined.

JAM Playlist:
Truly, Madly, Deeply
Artist: Savage Garden
Album: Savage Garden

This is probably the cheesiest song I have ever chosen for the Playlist. But I’ll be a dork and admit it’s the song that popped into my head almost immediately after the episode aired. The romantic sap in me couldn’t be stopped. happy.gif

Jim Arrives:

Pam opens the door to her dorm room smiling widely at Jim. Her smile reaches all the way to her eyes, making them twinkle with deep delight. It’s clear she really misses Jim and is beyond excited to see him. It’s so good to see him standing there with his warm smile. Only she didn’t expect him to wrap his arms around her and kiss her so amorously. He literally picks her up off the ground as he kisses her. In her surprise, Pam is a little delayed in wrapping her arms around him. A little sound escapes from her throat, further expressing her surprise at his actions. Pam is completely surrounded in Jim’s love, which feels magnificent after being apart. For a few moments she is blissfully lost in his arms, but it soon dawns on her the camera is watching. She breaks away, embarrassed the camera caught so much PDA. Jim is slow to catch on and eyes her curiously. Pam nods towards the camera, to Jim, and then looks down to the floor. One thing about Pam that will never change is her need for privacy. She‘s only open book to a certain extent, if she can help it. In Fun Run, she made the statement that she would not talk about her love life with the camera crew. Her personal relationship with Jim is something she wants to protect from the prying eyes of the documentary crew. Last season, she let them see a little too much in Goodbye, Toby which re-strengthened her resolve on this front. She’s already shared enough with the documentary people. What she has with Jim is hers and no one else’s. It’s been while since she’s seen Jim and she wants every second alone with him that she can get. The camera isn’t going to get any more of the precious time she has with him. Aside from privacy, there is a piece of Pam that will always be a little shy and self conscious. She isn’t the one who says or does anything to get rid of the camera. She fears she’ll say something rude or give away too much. Instead, she waits for Jim to do something about it. He quickly steps up to the plate with the perfect plan of distraction. The gullible camera guy spins around looking for Pam‘s artwork that Jim claims is hanging the public hallway. Pam is greatly amused by Jim’s method which gives them just enough time to shut the door, locking out the camera guy. Now there is nothing to stop her from reminding him just how much she loves and misses him.

Pam’s dorm room is small and cluttered, but it is so her. She has a picture of Jim on a large table by the window, some of her sketches on the walls, and scattered belongings that have yet to find their place. The place is a little disorganized and unsettled much like herself. Having Jim arrive in this space, brings old and new together. She wants him to see where she lives and what she is doing. Much focus has been put on Jim and the frustration he feels for not knowing Pam’s surroundings and everything she is doing. Pam likely has much of the same frustration. She wants him to know her world and wants him to have a place in it beyond a picture on her table.

R.A. Duty Calls:

In the previous scene, Pam’s door is labeled with a sign that reads, “Pam Beesly: Resident Advisor.” It’s a perfect job for her after dealing with Michael’s antics for so many years. After dealing with things like a cooked foot, Prison Mike, and taking notes on funtivities there’s nothing she can’t handle from college students. However, duty sometimes calls at the most inopportune times. During Jim’s visit, a student comes to her to complain that her soy milk was stolen. As a result, Pam has to send Jim out to common room while she deals with the soy milk incident. Even though Pam is not in this scene, the collision of her two worlds is apparent. In this particular battle, new wins over old. Her new world takes her away from Jim, despite her every intention to spend time with him.

Making Friends:

Pam is standing with a group of people with an amused expression on her face. They are her new friends in a new world that never ceases to give her a new perspective on life. She is still a little shy, but she is enjoying the fact that she seems to fit in with them. It’s easy to be around them and they seem to like her. Making friends is an incredibly important part of Pam’s experience at Pratt. New surroundings can be daunting without a little help and the escape of socializing. On top of that, she’s a little older than most students, which can possibly make her an outcast. Being accepted by her fellow students is something she likely worried about before she even left for New York. There’s never been much mention of friends Pam has in Scranton, but it can be assumed she doesn’t have many. After all, with Jim’s absence in Season 3, Pam resorted to shopping online and double dating with Kelly. Pam has always been pretty shy, which also lends to the assumption that her friend base is small. Seeing her open up to new people in a new place really shows how far she’s come in just a couple of years. She likes her new friends and it’s not just because they like her. This is an important distinction that signals the strength of her confidence and self worth. Pam loves the energy of hanging out with her friends. It’s so different from home and very stimulating. They have the same sense of humor and laugh at her joke. One guy in particular, (no name is known yet), has a deadpan humor Pam can’t help but like. When he jokes about his ex-girlfriend being right behind them, Pam turns to see an old lady walking by. She is quick to respond with her own joke, “Wow, was it the age difference?” He carries her joke a step further by explaining he didn’t like eating dinner that early. Pam smiles at both his joke and the fact that he “gets” her. After years of being in a place where only one other person truly got her, it’s amazing for her to find there are more people she can relate to. There’s a good chance she never saw herself as a very social person prior to this experience. It’s a side of herself she didn’t even know was there.

In the midst of her socializing, her phone starts to ring with Jim on the other line. She is happy to hear his voice as always, but she doesn’t want to break the momentum she has with her new friends. She asks if she can call him back, the excitement unmistakable in her voice as she explains, “I made friends.” There’s even a little relief in her voice that she is finding her place in her new surroundings. Her tone implies Jim knows she was worried about how she would be accepted by other students. What’s more, she can’t wait to tell Jim all about it later. It’s important to note she isn’t trying to get rid of him, it’s just a case of bad timing for a phone call. A piece of her wishes he was there with her. He’d like her friends, she’s sure of it. This is another scene where her old and new worlds collide. Even though her heart pulls her towards Jim, her new world calls to her with new people and a new self awareness.

Pam’s experiences with making friends, directly contrasts Jim’s experiences back in Scranton. In the two preceding scenes, Jim is shown eating lunch with his co-workers. He is having a hard time talking to them and finds he has nothing in common beyond DM with anyone. While Pam is invigorated with fun and relatable people, Jim is getting the life sucked out of him with the same old crowd of social misfits. Without Pam, Jim finds himself relatively alone despite being surrounded by people he knows. Pam, on the other hand, is no longer by herself in a big city. She is opening herself up to new things, while Jim is clinging to the familiar. While this isn’t effecting JAM adversely for the moment, it’s something to bear in mind. Ever since the close of Season 3, the theory of Jim and Pam being uneven in terms of personal growth has lingered on the backburner. It needs to be watched a little closer.

In Class with a Friend:

Pam sits next to one of her new friends in her next class. He is the same friend she was joking around with in the hallway. Last time she was seen in class she was in the wrong one and an outcast. So much has changed in just a week. He nudges her to show her a funny drawing he’s made of the professor. Initially, she is annoyed at having her attention diverted, (no matter how boring the subject matter -- fungus?), but she looks over to see what he wants. She can’t help but chuckle softly. His drawing really is pretty funny. He has humor similar to Jim, which is part of the reason why she gets along with this guy so well. The ease how they relate to one another is reminiscent of Jim and Pam’s early friendship, but it lacks the spark. It’s clear he likes her, but Pam is oblivious. She sees him as nothing but a friend. Her heart belongs to Jim, making her blind to her nameless friend’s slight attempts at flirting. In an odd way, old and new are colliding once again. Old humor finds a place with new people. However, in this instance, Pam’s humor is a constant that reminds her of home.

Pam’s laugh may have been soft, but it was enough to cause the professor to scold both of them for disrupting his class. She didn’t like getting into trouble. As always, Pam hates being the center of attention. This time it’s worse, because part of her is socially horrified at being singled out as a trouble-maker. Pam is a straight-laced, play by the rules kind of girl who would never dream of acting up in a classroom. Maybe she would in meeting at DM, but not in school. She immediately shifts her attention back to her notes. Oooops. While this new friend may be of no consequence in the grand scheme of things, this may not be his last appearance.

Phone Call/IM:

During a phone call with Jim, Pam’s voice is tired and tinged with the same frustration Jim has been fighting ever since she left. She is as frustrated as Jim with the ten day span of not seeing one another. Much emphasis has been put of Jim’s difficulty with the situation, but Pam is having a hard time, too. It’s been too long and both feel lost without the other. Jim explains that he has to attend his nephew's t-ball game tonight, mainly because he’s missed three already. It can be assumed he was supposed to come and see Pam, but is having to cancel. Pam can hear that he’s not happy about it and does her best to lighten the mood by teasing him, “You’ve already disappointed him so much, he can’t be expecting a lot from you.” Her voice is saddened at the prospect of not seeing him, but she understands his predicament. Of course, the part of her that misses him so much is hoping a little tease like this will convince him to come and see her instead of his nephew’s game. After all, the kid is used to not seeing him, she is not. However, Pam would never really ask him to do that; she’s not that selfish. It’s just her way of letting him know she really wants to see him. Jim chuckles halfheartedly through his disappointment and take the joke a step further, “I know. I suck.” She can hear his frustration and says nothing more about the coming evening. He can’t come and she’ll have to miss him for another day. The separation is hard on both of them and they are beginning to show cracks in their respective shields. In a sense, it’s a little comforting to both to know the other is just as lost and miserable.

Dwight soon interrupts the conversation by agreeing Jim sucks. Pam listens as Jim and Dwight trade comments in their usual bickering fashion. It’s funny, but Pam is more interested in making plans to see her man. Pam knows how Jim can distracted and pulled in by Dwight’s antics, so she has to act fast. Before Dwight can distract Jim any further, she quickly diverts his attention back to her, “Alright, listen, um, we’re still good for this weekend, right?” Maybe she can’t see him tonight, but she’s going to create a light at the end of the tunnel for this weekend. She even tease a little bit by making sure he has no dance recitals, football games or karate tournaments to attend. She can hear Jim slightly chuckle and can sense that he is getting a little antsy. Dwight must be watching and listening, still. It’s no surprise at all when asks her to got IM. In fact, she’s a little relieved that she no longer has to share Jim with Dwight.

The switch to IM is immediate. Jim9334 sends an unexpected message, “Let’s meet for lunch.” She is surprised and hesitant to believe that it could be possible to see him today, especially with both of their schedules being so full. So, Receptionitis15 responds, “What -- today?” Interestingly, Pam’s IM screen name identifies her as a receptionist, the very title she is trying to shed. In the battle of old vs. new, old is winning this round. However, the ending of -itis gives a certain feeling of it being a disease in which she's trying to find a cure. The new is exciting and invigorating but a piece of her is struggling with being away from someone she loves so much. Jim9334 persists by suggesting they meet halfway, so she can make it to her 4 o’clock class. Tempted again by the possibility of seeing him Pam, asks “Where?” It seems like such a hasty plan, but she is intrigued by what he has up his sleeve. Of course, he has a simple yet perfect place picked out, “the rest stop where that soda exploded on me.” It’s special place to them that obviously has a great story attached to it that is theirs and theirs alone. She eagerly accepts his invitation due to her strong desire to see him, the sweetness of his persistence, and the reassurance that she’d make it back in time for her class. It’s so easy to love a man that tries so hard. The thought of not having to miss him for another day is positively soul saving. She sends him a little gift with her acceptance. A gift she knows Jim will absolutely loves. When Jim opens the link labeled “summer project,” an ACSII style portrait of Dwight pops up on the screen. It’s a perfect rendition of the enigma that is Dwight. Dwight is always an inside joke between them and she knows he will laugh. It may have been a summer project, but Pam made it for Jim.

An Ass Kicking Proposal:

Pam is standing under the roof of the rest stop while the rain pounds and the wind whips around her. Nothing about this meeting is ideal, until Jim gets out of his car and heads towards her. As soon as she knows he can hear her, she teases him, “Hey! This is not halfway. I did the math, I had to drive way longer than you. Montclair would have been closer, so you have to buy lunch.” The playful tone of her voice is a JAM patented way of letting Jim know she is happy to see him. It was his hair-brained idea that they meet here, so she has to give him a hard time. In reality, she would have driven even further. He is worth every extra mile she had to drive. From a symbolic standpoint, this line can be traced to the very beginning of their relationship. It’s always taken her a little longer to find her way to Jim. It could be a sign of things to come. Perhaps it will take Pam a little longer to want the same things Jim wants within the same timeframe. With JAM it’s always an issue of timing, and it very well might be again. She’s already been credited with saying she doesn’t want a long engagement, but a lot has changed in the last few weeks. She wants to marry Jim, there’s no doubt, but her focus at the moment is on making herself a better person. The trick is finding the balance between what she wants with Jim and the things she wants to do as an individual. She can have both, but it’s a question of when.

The playful nature of Pam’s joke quickly fades as Jim stares into her eyes. He is silent and intensely serious. Pam doesn’t look away as she is befuddled by his expression. He drops his coat to the ground and lowers himself down on one knee. Pam can hardly believe what she is seeing, “What are you doing?” It’s the same question she asked a little over two years ago when he told her he loved her for the first time. It’s only fitting she’d repeat it when he kneels before her with another life changing request. She’s knew it would be coming. They’ve talked about it, joked about it, and it almost happened a couple months ago. But much like his first “I love you,” she wasn’t expecting it to happen so soon. She takes a small step back out of shock and the need to get a wider view of what is actually happening. Jim is really on one knee with a little velvet black box in his hands. A thunderstorm rages around her, but all she can see and hear is the love of her life waiting to ask the question that sits on the tip of his tongue. His voice is soft and emotional as he begins to speak, “I just . . . I can’t wait.” The simplistic honesty of his words sends her heart into a tailspin of euphoric panic. She mutters, “Oh my God,” for lack of a more coherent response. He’s really going to do this, right now, at this gas station in this storm. He pauses for a moment to take a deep breath. When he speaks, his velvet voice is layered with honest emotion, “Pam, will you marry me?” Even though she knew the question was coming, hearing the words is an experience that leaves her stunned. She says, “Oh my God” once again as she struggles to regain composure. She is so happy, excited, and flooded with love she can barely speak another word. Jim really wants to marry her. And here he is with a beautiful ring, his sweet smile, and a heart that belongs to her. A huge smile spreads across her face, filled with an all encompassing joy that warms every part of her body. Her silence drags on for a few agonizing seconds. Jim sees her smile and smiles a little wider himself. Pam is still too stunned to answer, so he prompts her with a playful yet prodding, “So?” Both know her answer, but Jim wants to hear it. Pam nods her head “yes” feverishly. There’s no way she could ever tell him “no.” Not with those twinkling eyes staring at her and her unflinchingly deep love for him. In the midst of her nodding, she utters the word she always knew she’d say, “Yes.” Her voice is overcome with excitement, joy, and release that he finally asked. Jim bounds up from his knee to surround her in his arms. She throws her arms around his neck and kisses him happily. The gap that separated them for almost two months no longer exists as they celebrate the promise of future together at a rain filled rest stop.

Pam is instantly swept away in the simple romance of the moment. His wet knee, her flat hair, his heartfelt expression, the rain, the wind, the love, the surprise, the ring, the weirdness of a special station, and of course the first engaged kiss make this the single most perfect moment in Pam’s life. There weren’t fireworks, or music, or lawn chairs, but it didn’t matter. He was here with her and that’s all she needed. It’s all so right and so them. It took so long, years actually, to get to this moment and it’s better than she could have ever imagined. She can’t stop smiling even as he kisses her. Both are giggling underneath soft kisses and smiles. Pam’s heart is fluttering with the lightness of butterfly wings as the magic of the proposal truly sinks in. He gave her the proposal he promised. Her ass is officially kicked in the sweetest and most unexpected way. He leans his forehead against hers and they stand still for a moment, savoring every second of their moment. Being with Jim has always been the stuff of dreams.

The Bottom Line:
The right moment far exceeded planned perfection.

Questions to Ponder:

1) Is Pam reaching for the life she wants or is she making up for what she missed out on when she was younger? Does it make a difference?

2) Did Pam say “yes“ for all the right reasons? (really think about this one!) Is the timing truly right?

3) How should Pam redefine herself?


** I must sigh happily for a moment. As I wrote the final section of this update I was sitting in my favorite coffee café. The people at the table next to me were speaking in a foreign language that was either German or an Easter European tongue. I felt like I was in Europe at a sidewalk café, which made me miss London and of course, Prague terribly. But, it was nice to at least feel like I was in the places I love so much. What a wonderful way to spend a Sunday morning. smile.gif

I’ve literally waited two years to write the final scene in this update. The scene truly speaks for itself, so I kept it simple. Hopefully, it’s not disappointing. rolleyes.gif The writers outdid themselves in creating a JAM moment that exceeded just about everyone’s expectations. They deserve a standing ovation for giving us something so beautiful and fitting for our favorite couple.

Tonight, I’ll be sitting down to write Part 2 for the JP. Most of the symbolism I spotted in this episode relates to him, so I will have my hands full. There are some really cool things in this episode that I can’t wait to write about. I’m hoping to post on Monday evening, so stay tuned.

I’m a little behind in responding to QTP posts, but please know I’m reading them intently as are a lot of other people. Every posts provides a new angle in which to view the episode. I love it! I hope to delve into all the discussion on Tuesday and Wednesday. Please keep those posts coming! On that note, have fun with this latest batch of QTP. As always, play nice. smile.gif


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Receptionitis15
Fantastic, SB! My heart is melting all over again reading your interpretation of the proposal scene. Simply perfect.

I can't wait to jump into the QTPs, but I did want to point something out from the analysis...

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So, Receptionist15 responds, “What -- today?” Interestingly, Pam’s IM screen name identifies her as a receptionist, the very title she is trying to shed. In the battle of old vs. new, old is winning this round. The new is exciting and invigorating but a piece of her is struggling with being away from someone she loves so much.

Actually, if you watch that scene again, her IM name is actually Receiptionitis15 (that's where I took mine from). I know it's easy to miss -- I missed it the first time through. There are lots of things to take away from that, but I think it's a reference to "pretendonitis" and possibly a callback to a running joke between Jim and Pam dating back to "Health Care." I see her screen name as yet another Jam inside joke that reminds them both of their connection to each other despite the distance. That struck me for some reason. I mean, clearly, because I felt the need to steal it. wink.gif
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