AzizalSaqr
Oct 6 2008, 04:00 PM
From Media Village
CHUCK
CHUCK VERSUS TOM SAWYER
10-27-2008 8:00PM
EFFICIENCY—TONY HALE (“ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT”) GUEST STARS—Life in espionage takes its toll on Chuck (Zachary Levi) and everyone is taking notice. Chuck tries to explain his unusual behavior to Ellie (Sarah Lancaster) and to the quirky Buy More efficiency expert Emmett Milbarge (guest star Tony Hale), but a new assignment only complicates things. After a global terrorist comes searching for Jeff (Scott Krinsky), Chuck is forced to socialize with Jeff in order to find out what role the oddball plays in the mission. Sarah (Yvonne Strahovski), Casey (Adam Baldwin) and Chuck are all shocked when they discover that the fate of the world and the prevention of World War III rest in Jeff’s hands. Ryan McPartlin, Joshua Gomez, Vik Sahay, Ling and Mark Christopher Lawrence also star.
Show Cast: Zachary Levi, Yvonne Strahovski, Adam Baldwin, Joshua Gomez, Sarah Lancaster, Ryan McPartlin, Mark Christopher Lawrence, Vik Sahay, Scott Krinsky, Julia Ling
Agent_Rosco
Oct 12 2008, 02:41 AM
Just reading this reassures me that chuck is not going to disappoint this season; still rockin' your socks off
LouSytsma
Oct 14 2008, 01:55 PM
Indeed. It will be a kick to hear a Rush song on Chuck!
tchula
Oct 14 2008, 03:54 PM
Wow! Jeff?! Really?
deathbat56
Oct 15 2008, 09:52 PM
Anybody know if this gunna be the Halloween episode? I assume it is cuz it's the week of Halloween, but I'm not sure. I hope they put Sarah in the Princess Leia outfit again. I would very much appreciate it.
CaptainJackHarkness
Oct 16 2008, 09:20 AM
As long as there isn't any romance in this episode, I'll be happy.
I personally find Ms Strzechowski a very beautiful young girl, but I think the Princess Leia costume might be overdoing it. Sarah doesn't strike me as the type to walk around half-naked anyway. Besides which, how's a spy supposed to conceal weapons in her clothing if she barely wears any clothing?
vinvin777
Oct 19 2008, 06:24 PM
This seems to be one of the more comical episodes since its revolving around Jeff and the introduction of Emmet (Tony Hale). I can't wait to see Tony Hale's character; definitely brings in another dynamic into the Buy More. BTW, big fan of Arrested Development
CaptainJackHarkness
Oct 19 2008, 06:35 PM
I've seen clips of Arrested Development and it was funny.
CodeNameChuck
Oct 21 2008, 12:35 PM
Sorry Captain, but I don't want the Chuck/Sarah dynamic to become stagnet, even for one episode. A little bit of loving never hurt anyone.

I'm sorry, but just the episode description for this already makes it sound awesome. An episode with Jeff in the center of it? I'm not going to be able to stop laughing!
CFCfan
Oct 21 2008, 01:33 PM
An episode centered around Jeff... how can it not be hilarious?
LouSytsma
Oct 21 2008, 02:43 PM
There should be more bonding this episode between Chuck and Sarah. Chuck's double life is going to be catching up to him a la Peter Parker syndrome as I like to call it. He's getting tired and stressed out trying to juggle the two halves of his life. Sarah should pick up on this and offer to help him out. Another building block episode in the Chuck and Sarah Castle of Love!
SDchuckFAN
Oct 21 2008, 02:45 PM
I can see the boards next week filled with Jeff quotes already. He has the fewest lines but almost 100% is funny.
vinvin777
Oct 21 2008, 02:58 PM
QUOTE (LouSytsma @ Oct 21 2008, 03:43 PM)

There should be more bonding this episode between Chuck and Sarah. Chuck's double life is going to be catching up to him a la Peter Parker syndrome as I like to call it. He's getting tired and stressed out trying to juggle the two halves of his life. Sarah should pick up on this and offer to help him out. Another building block episode in the Chuck and Sarah Castle of Love!
You make a good point about Chuck's double life catching up to him. Its been amazing on his part for not slipping. Eventually someone close to him is going to find out what he does during his free time.
reen426
Oct 21 2008, 03:02 PM
the preview for this episode is sooo confusing...it was mainly around the jill episode...i don't recall seeing jeff or emmett (tony hale) in it at all...so, we really don't know what we'll see for this episode...so far, all we know is that jeff will be the star of this episode...i guess we'll find out more when the spoiler vids and pics surface...
Fan555
Oct 21 2008, 03:34 PM
QUOTE (reen426 @ Oct 21 2008, 04:02 PM)

the preview for this episode is sooo confusing...it was mainly around the jill episode...i don't recall seeing jeff or emmett (tony hale) in it at all...so, we really don't know what we'll see for this episode...so far, all we know is that jeff will be the star of this episode...i guess we'll find out more when the spoiler vids and pics surface...
If you talking about the promo it was a promo for the next few episode not only the next one.
reen426
Oct 21 2008, 03:43 PM
QUOTE (Fan555 @ Oct 21 2008, 03:34 PM)

If you talking about the promo it was a promo for the next few episode not only the next one.
yeah i know
...what i meant is that for us regulars we know what's to come...so, i expected to see more scenes with tony hale and jeff...the show was trying to drag new viewers in with jordana brewster and the juicy love triangle theme...it's just this is gonna be the first episode that i don't really know what to expect since there are no non-spoilerish scenes revealed...and i'm gonna dread that we're gonna have to wait 2 weeks after this episode for the jill drama!!!
Fan555
Oct 21 2008, 05:03 PM
One more thing about the promo. On the end the scene where Chuck and Jill are kissing and Sarah watching them from the door with the "it's hurt but i am happy for him " look broke my heart and threw away the superglue
BillAtWork
Oct 21 2008, 05:08 PM
I would be very careful reading anything into what we see in a promo. They edit scenes to intentionally deceive us. The Chuck / Jill kiss (it looked more like she was kissing him) and the Sarah look might not have been at the same time.
CFCfan
Oct 21 2008, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (BillAtWork @ Oct 21 2008, 06:08 PM)

I would be very careful reading anything into what we see in a promo. They edit scenes to intentionally deceive us. The Chuck / Jill kiss (it looked more like she was kissing him) and the Sarah look might not have been at the same time.
Exactly. Dont take the promos to seriously. They edit them that way for a reason.
luvchuck101
Oct 21 2008, 06:14 PM
Does anyone not want Jill to stick around? I don't mind her being here for one episode but past that is too mcuh. This episode will be great and hopefully Sarah doesn't see the kiss. But, if Jill does stick around it means that she and Chuck are dating again, therefore leaving Sarah on the back burner. I am personally sick of seeing Chuck and Sarah both being drug through the dirt with this relationship. Chuck had to deal with Bryce, Sarah with Lou. Even though they say they can't be together doesn't mean that they don't want to. I do see how this could evolve Chuck and Sarah's relationship as a whole after Jill leaves but will it damage it too?
Fan555
Oct 21 2008, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (soccerchica14 @ Oct 21 2008, 06:14 PM)

Does anyone not want Jill to stick around? I don't mind her being here for one episode but past that is too mcuh. This episode will be great and hopefully Sarah doesn't see the kiss. But, if Jill does stick around it means that she and Chuck are dating again, therefore leaving Sarah on the back burner. I am personally sick of seeing Chuck and Sarah both being drug through the dirt with this relationship. Chuck had to deal with Bryce, Sarah with Lou. Even though they say they can't be together doesn't mean that they don't want to. I do see how this could evolve Chuck and Sarah's relationship as a whole after Jill leaves but will it damage it too?
Jill is a necessity . Chucks one big love, he never got over her .He have to have a closure with her before start a new romance .On the other side I am also afraid she will leave Chuck and Sarah hurt and they will need a long time to recover from this bump in their relationship. But it could be possible that we get 3 episodes of Jill because they want to keep us wondering episode by episode when ( /if) something happen.
random578
Oct 21 2008, 06:47 PM
Do we know exactly when Jill comes onto the show?
Fan555
Oct 21 2008, 06:58 PM
QUOTE (random578 @ Oct 21 2008, 06:47 PM)

Do we know exactly when Jill comes onto the show?
2.06-2.08
CaptainJackHarkness
Oct 21 2008, 07:21 PM
QUOTE (Fan555 @ Oct 21 2008, 06:32 PM)

Jill is a necessity . Chucks one big love, he never got over her .He have to have a closure with her before start a new romance .On the other side I am also afraid she will leave Chuck and Sarah hurt and they will need a long time to recover from this bump in their relationship. But it could be possible that we get 3 episodes of Jill because they want to keep us wondering episode by episode when ( /if) something happen.
You're afraid Chuck will be hurt? Even after seeing vs the Cougars? I mean, I can understand the sympathy for Chuck before the Cougars episode because we didn't know anything about Sarah, but after last night, if anyone is going to be hurt from the tension in the Chuck-Sarah dynamic, it has to be Sarah. Look how much pain her whole life was. She was used by her own father as a pawn in his cons. She was forced to move from city to city and forced to change her name each time, so she could never make any friends. She lost her father at a very sensitive time in her life, and was publicly humiliated for it at her high school. She was constantly harassed by cruel teenagers at James Buchanan High School. Finally, after she got into the CIA, started rebuilding her self-esteem, she met Bryce, who abandoned her for a mission without even trying to explain to her first what he was about to do.
Sarah's life is a sad story. All her coy behaviour and not being open with Chuck about her emotions was not purposeful manipulation, it was frightened little Sarah trying to be strong in a cruel and dark world.
As far as I am concerned, Sarah unnecessarily suffered throughout her whole life, and she deserves someone like Chuck who will save her from CIA NOC duties and build her the nice suburban house in an upper-middle class neighbourhood in LA with the white picket fence, 2 car garage, backyard pool and gated community.
And since that cruel high schoolmate of Sarah's (Dick) let Chuck know Sarah's father was doing time in prison, I expect Chuck to be mature enough and to only associate with Jill for work/mission purposes, and nothing more. To do anything more would be totally disrespectful of Sarah's sacrifices for Chuck's safety as well as the rest of the USA's...
BigChuckFan
Oct 21 2008, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (CaptainJackHarkness @ Oct 21 2008, 08:21 PM)

You're afraid Chuck will be hurt? Even after seeing vs the Cougars? I mean, I can understand the sympathy for Chuck before the Cougars episode because we didn't know anything about Sarah, but after last night, if anyone is going to be hurt from the tension in the Chuck-Sarah dynamic, it has to be Sarah. Look how much pain her whole life was. She was used by her own father as a pawn in his cons. She was forced to move from city to city and forced to change her name each time, so she could never make any friends. She lost her father at a very sensitive time in her life, and was publicly humiliated for it at her high school. She was constantly harassed by cruel teenagers at James Buchanan High School. Finally, after she got into the CIA, started rebuilding her self-esteem, she met Bryce, who abandoned her for a mission without even trying to explain to her first what he was about to do.
Sarah's life is a sad story. All her coy behaviour and not being open with Chuck about her emotions was not purposeful manipulation, it was frightened little Sarah trying to be strong in a cruel and dark world.
As far as I am concerned, Sarah unnecessarily suffered throughout her whole life, and she deserves someone like Chuck who will save her from CIA NOC duties and build her the nice suburban house in an upper-middle class neighbourhood in LA with the white picket fence, 2 car garage, backyard pool and gated community.
And since that cruel high schoolmate of Sarah's (Dick) let Chuck know Sarah's father was doing time in prison, I expect Chuck to be mature enough and to only associate with Jill for work/mission purposes, and nothing more. To do anything more would be totally disrespectful of Sarah's sacrifices for Chuck's safety as well as the rest of the USA's...
Amen CaptainJackHarkness!
Sarah has a lot more to lose if Chuck causes any indiscretions with Jill then Chuck does because he may have been hurt in the past because of Bryce.
Jill could potentially be a cause of much delay in their getting together if Chuck doesn't watch his P's and Q's.
Fan555
Oct 21 2008, 07:35 PM
QUOTE (CaptainJackHarkness @ Oct 21 2008, 07:21 PM)

You're afraid Chuck will be hurt? Even after seeing vs the Cougars? I mean, I can understand the sympathy for Chuck before the Cougars episode because we didn't know anything about Sarah, but after last night, if anyone is going to be hurt from the tension in the Chuck-Sarah dynamic, it has to be Sarah. Look how much pain her whole life was. She was used by her own father as a pawn in his cons. She was forced to move from city to city and forced to change her name each time, so she could never make any friends. She lost her father at a very sensitive time in her life, and was publicly humiliated for it at her high school. She was constantly harassed by cruel teenagers at James Buchanan High School. Finally, after she got into the CIA, started rebuilding her self-esteem, she met Bryce, who abandoned her for a mission without even trying to explain to her first what he was about to do.
Sarah's life is a sad story. All her coy behaviour and not being open with Chuck about her emotions was not purposeful manipulation, it was frightened little Sarah trying to be strong in a cruel and dark world.
As far as I am concerned, Sarah unnecessarily suffered throughout her whole life, and she deserves someone like Chuck who will save her from CIA NOC duties and build her the nice suburban house in an upper-middle class neighbourhood in LA with the white picket fence, 2 car garage, backyard pool and gated community.
And since that cruel high schoolmate of Sarah's (Dick) let Chuck know Sarah's father was doing time in prison, I expect Chuck to be mature enough and to only associate with Jill for work/mission purposes, and nothing more. To do anything more would be totally disrespectful of Sarah's sacrifices for Chuck's safety as well as the rest of the USA's...
What i actually meant i am afraid Sarah's and Chuck's advancing relationship will suffer from the Jill arc . I am afraid that Chuck will have something to do with Jill ( his chance to have a relationship with a normal girl ) and leave Sarah hurt , hurt as much that when Chuck realize he wants her over Jill it will be too late. So the writers can earn one more season to build the trust between them again and get to the point where they are at now .( Sorry for my terrible English, extreme headache wont help you when English is not your native language

)
enigma6
Oct 21 2008, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (CaptainJackHarkness @ Oct 21 2008, 07:21 PM)

You're afraid Chuck will be hurt? Even after seeing vs the Cougars? I mean, I can understand the sympathy for Chuck before the Cougars episode because we didn't know anything about Sarah, but after last night, if anyone is going to be hurt from the tension in the Chuck-Sarah dynamic, it has to be Sarah. Look how much pain her whole life was. She was used by her own father as a pawn in his cons. She was forced to move from city to city and forced to change her name each time, so she could never make any friends. She lost her father at a very sensitive time in her life, and was publicly humiliated for it at her high school. She was constantly harassed by cruel teenagers at James Buchanan High School. Finally, after she got into the CIA, started rebuilding her self-esteem, she met Bryce, who abandoned her for a mission without even trying to explain to her first what he was about to do.
Sarah's life is a sad story. All her coy behaviour and not being open with Chuck about her emotions was not purposeful manipulation, it was frightened little Sarah trying to be strong in a cruel and dark world.
As far as I am concerned, Sarah unnecessarily suffered throughout her whole life, and she deserves someone like Chuck who will save her from CIA NOC duties and build her the nice suburban house in an upper-middle class neighbourhood in LA with the white picket fence, 2 car garage, backyard pool and gated community.
And since that cruel high schoolmate of Sarah's (Dick) let Chuck know Sarah's father was doing time in prison, I expect Chuck to be mature enough and to only associate with Jill for work/mission purposes, and nothing more. To do anything more would be totally disrespectful of Sarah's sacrifices for Chuck's safety as well as the rest of the USA's...
Although i'll agree Sarah hasn’t had the easiest life and made a lot of sacrifices expecting Chuck to wait around indefinitely is rather unrealistic. That said I agree with other posters that Jill will be used as a catalyst for both dealing with Chuck’s past and get Sarah thinking about her future.
SuperSpy001
Oct 21 2008, 08:04 PM
QUOTE (enigma6 @ Oct 21 2008, 05:37 PM)

Although i'll agree Sarah hasn’t had the easiest life and made a lot of sacrifices expecting Chuck to wait around indefinitely is rather unrealistic...
Isn't it against CIA rules for Agent Walker to date Asset Bartowski? After the Cougars episode, we know that Sarah doesn't have a lot going for her outside of the CIA. She could quit the CIA so she could date Chuck, but what happens if they don't work out. Seems like the CIA is the most stable "family" she has ever known. Or let's say that things do work out with Chuck, he is still a CIA asset who doesn't even get a salary for his moonlighting. Furthermore, he is in constant danger of being found out by Fulcrum or incarcerated by the government. At least, as his handler, Sarah has some say about Chuck's destiny in the hands of CYA bureaucrats like Beckman. I'm curious about how the show is going to work out this CIA no-asset-dating rule.
Fan555
Oct 21 2008, 08:19 PM
QUOTE (SuperSpy001 @ Oct 21 2008, 08:04 PM)

Isn't it against CIA rules for Agent Walker to date Asset Bartowski? After the Cougars episode, we know that Sarah doesn't have a lot going for her outside of the CIA. She could quit the CIA so she could date Chuck, but what happens if they don't work out. Seems like the CIA is the most stable "family" she has ever known. Or let's say that things do work out with Chuck, he is still a CIA asset who doesn't even get a salary for his moonlighting. Furthermore, he is in constant danger of being found out by Fulcrum or incarcerated by the government. At least, as his handler, Sarah has some say about Chuck's destiny in the hands of CYA bureaucrats like Beckman. I'm curious about how the show is going to work out this CIA no-asset-dating rule.
I think its a safe to say that Chuck will actually become a spy. Not a regular knife throwing -building blowing one, but a nerdy -intellectual one. We already can see this line advancing in the latest episodes. And spy can date a spy...
DN1
Oct 21 2008, 08:38 PM
I'm seeing a good bit of posters looking for to hearing Rush on the show, but couldn't it be we're going to see a nod to an 1800s 12 year old? Perhaps Morgan is Chuck's Huck Finn? Or, perhaps it will be the other way around?
CaptainJackHarkness
Oct 21 2008, 09:03 PM
QUOTE (Fan555 @ Oct 21 2008, 08:19 PM)

I think its a safe to say that Chuck will actually become a spy. Not a regular knife throwing -building blowing one, but a nerdy -intellectual one. We already can see this line advancing in the latest episodes. And spy can date a spy...

I think there is an easy way out of this dilemna, but it destroys the show premise. Basically the CIA/NSA can offer Chuck a job as an analyst at their headquarters. Chuck doesn't have to hide this from his friends and family, and because as an analyst at CIA headquarters he will be under tight security anyway, he no longer needs Sarah and Casey for protection. Chuck and Sarah could then become a real couple, though it would be easier if Sarah transferred to a desk job as well.
Of course this ruins the show, because there will be no Buy More interactions and Casey and Sarah would lose their control over Chuck's life.
As for spies dating spies, I actually believe it is not recommended. Much like military personnel are encouraged to not get involved with colleagues in their unit/ship/etc...however, the rule is not strictly enforced...
QUOTE (DN1 @ Oct 21 2008, 08:38 PM)

I'm seeing a good bit of posters looking for to hearing Rush on the show, but couldn't it be we're going to see a nod to an 1800s 12 year old? Perhaps Morgan is Chuck's Huck Finn? Or, perhaps it will be the other way around?
Good insight. I never thought of this.
BillAtWork
Oct 21 2008, 09:25 PM
i think that it says something that they are not even promoting this episode in the show. Instead they promoted the episode in two weeks. Maybe the one to miss if you have to do something on a Monday.
shortpinoyguy
Oct 21 2008, 09:30 PM
QUOTE (BillAtWork @ Oct 21 2008, 09:25 PM)

i think that it says something that they are not even promoting this episode in the show. Instead they promoted the episode in two weeks. Maybe the one to miss if you have to do something on a Monday.
I'll watch it anyway...it involves Jeff so there has to be some funny stuff going on there with the Charah moments put in the background or not at all.
Fan555
Oct 21 2008, 09:36 PM
QUOTE (BillAtWork @ Oct 21 2008, 09:25 PM)

i think that it says something that they are not even promoting this episode in the show. Instead they promoted the episode in two weeks. Maybe the one to miss if you have to do something on a Monday.
I think they just wanted to keep the interest in the new viewers ( the ones who joined because of Nicole ) for showing Jordana Brewster.
Taliesinjoe
Oct 21 2008, 09:52 PM
QUOTE (Fan555 @ Oct 21 2008, 09:36 PM)

I think they just wanted to keep the interest in the new viewers ( the ones who joined because of Nicole ) for showing Jordana Brewster.
u know what? i have a feeling that our Jill is not such a nice girl after all....call me crazy, but i do have a vibe. anyone else has my same feeling?
E_L_I
Oct 21 2008, 09:58 PM
QUOTE (DN1 @ Oct 21 2008, 09:38 PM)

I'm seeing a good bit of posters looking for to hearing Rush on the show, but couldn't it be we're going to see a nod to an 1800s 12 year old? Perhaps Morgan is Chuck's Huck Finn? Or, perhaps it will be the other way around?
Good idea!! That is what i think too.
Katsura_Kotonoha
Oct 21 2008, 09:59 PM
Lets not forget that more seeds are being planted for Ellie to discover Chuck's 'afer hours' work.
A big seed was planted in Chuck vs The Seduction when Cpt Awesome 'saw' Bryce. Now this Ellie suspicion/worry thing. You're all forgetting that Awesome knows the Bryce Story second hand, but has never seen Bryce. Sooner or later he will see a picture or something and then... 2 + 2 = Blown Cover.
I for one cant wait. Oh I can just imagine Cpt Awesome's face. Oh god! Can you imagine Ellies face? You thought Sarah's face was funny in Chuck vs The Cougars.... Wait until you see Ellie & Awesomes....
chuckrulez
Oct 21 2008, 10:08 PM
I somewhat agree with CaptainJack,but not totally,I think Chuck is the one hurt
the most by all this,I mean having been stabbed in the back by a friend (Bryce)
and got him thrown out of school,plus the same one stole his first love Jill,plus
Sarah playing with Chuck and not telling him how she feels.To be honest I hope
Chuck and Sarah don't get together too soon,cause as we see Sarah just ain't
emotionally ready yet.Chuck is as he has pointed out countless times shown her
how he feels,but like I say Sarah just won't open up.Now I am not flaming
Sarah as she has had a hard life,but she should know that Chuck would be
there for her,unlike all the other men in her life (Bryce,her Father,etc.).But
she just needs to figure that out.
One last thing thats slightly off topic.I get the feeling that someone is
fixing to find out Bryce is still alive,as we see both Morgan,Ellie,and Awesome
have all seen him,sure Ellie only seen him from the back,but Morgan and
Awesome have spoken to him.So I think they may write where one of them
figures it out.
shortpinoyguy
Oct 21 2008, 10:14 PM
Quite possibly and doesn't Chuck still have the pic with Bryce and his frat bros when he nearly threw it away. I would guess Awesome would be the one to find out because as we saw in the Undercover Lover episode he wanted to by a washer/dryer. My point is that at some point he stumbles on to the pic in a drawer putting away laundry and puts 2 and 2 together.
Katsura_Kotonoha
Oct 21 2008, 10:26 PM
It doesnt ruin the Charah premise at all. Whether he's an analyst or real spy, hes still the intersect. That means he's still special/too valuable and therefore, his fun stuff is off limits to Sarah. A mere regular spy.
Katsura_Kotonoha
Oct 21 2008, 10:37 PM
QUOTE (shortpinoyguy @ Oct 21 2008, 11:14 PM)

Quite possibly and doesn't Chuck still have the pic with Bryce and his frat bros when he nearly threw it away. I would guess Awesome would be the one to find out because as we saw in the Undercover Lover episode he wanted to by a washer/dryer. My point is that at some point he stumbles on to the pic in a drawer putting away laundry and puts 2 and 2 together.
Exactly. Or they run into Chuck, Sarah, and Casey in a shootout somewhere. Good luck covering
that up. Ha!
DN1
Oct 22 2008, 07:59 AM
First, I have read a post or two questioning why there wasn't a preview for this episode specifically. I think, in part, it's because the producers were seizing the possibility of higher viewership with Nicole Ritchie's week full of publicity. But I also wonder if it might have to do with the tone of this episode. As the synopsis reads, being the intersect is affecting Chuck which implies it may have a similar tone to "Break Up" meaning it may contain weightier subject matter. I've wondered for a while if having an entire computer 'downloaded' into Chuck's brain would have side effects (he mentioned once anticipating a massive headache as he continued to flash on bad guys in "Undercover Lover"). This could make for a good moment with Sarah and Chuck.
Also, Josh Schwartz is in complete control of this series. He and his crew can do anything they want and go in any direction they want (who figured on Sarah's background until "Cougars"?) I say this because of our united obsession with the romance and how long they're going to take to reach the coupling or our hero and heroine. The producers can go places we never anticipated that would allow for the romantic train to keep moving at an acceptable pace. And I hope they have the creativity to bring Jill into the story without blowing up the train track ahead.
One last observation, in the preview, we see Chuck and Jill embrace and kiss and then it cuts to Sarah appearing to see them. But she doesn't appear shocked or upset in the shot (remember her expression upon seeing the 'Black Widow' kiss Chuck in the elevator in "Seduction"?). Different scenes perhaps? Also, FYI that is Sarah in a black wig when Chuck says, no more deception.
Taliesinjoe
Oct 22 2008, 08:24 AM
QUOTE (enigma6 @ Oct 21 2008, 07:37 PM)

Although i'll agree Sarah hasn’t had the easiest life and made a lot of sacrifices expecting Chuck to wait around indefinitely is rather unrealistic. That said I agree with other posters that Jill will be used as a catalyst for both dealing with Chuck’s past and get Sarah thinking about her future.
I kinda agree with u there. I know Chuck is dedicated to Sarah, and he's prolly gonna wait for her, BUT if Jill shows up and offers him somthing that he always wanted, say marriage, well i dunno how long he's gonna wait for Sarah to claim him. He's still in love with Jill somehow, and he longs to have a normal life, so i would say, it's Sarah ball now. She has to commit herself to Chuck , and she has to do it fast, or Chuck will move on. And i know that they will get together (duh

) but this is a MAJOR test, majorly for Sarah, leaving her with the BIG decision, she wants him or not? but also for Chuck, cause if he really loves Sarah, he 's gonna at the end, reject Jill and cut the last of emotional attachment thatshe has with her.
KR1221
Oct 22 2008, 08:35 AM
QUOTE (DN1 @ Oct 22 2008, 08:59 AM)

Also, FYI that is Sarah in a black wig when Chuck says, no more deception.
I think it is Jill imo, because if you look closely at it you can see the rim of someone's glasses and I don't think Sarah was wearing glasses where as Jill did.
CaptainJackHarkness
Oct 22 2008, 08:59 AM
QUOTE (Taliesinjoe @ Oct 21 2008, 09:52 PM)

u know what? i have a feeling that our Jill is not such a nice girl after all....call me crazy, but i do have a vibe. anyone else has my same feeling?
Jill not nice? Why would we think that? All we know about her is that she left Chuck to be with Bryce, the person who fabricated the story of Chuck cheating on that easy test (nobody needs to cheat on a psychology test; they're much easier then engineering tests by far) and also got Chuck wrongfully expelled from Stanford.
Wouldn't lots of nice girls do that?
CaptainJackHarkness
Oct 22 2008, 09:02 AM
QUOTE (Katsura_Kotonoha @ Oct 21 2008, 10:26 PM)

It doesnt ruin the Charah premise at all. Whether he's an analyst or real spy, hes still the intersect. That means he's still special/too valuable and therefore, his fun stuff is off limits to Sarah. A mere regular spy.
Being an analyst will help Chuck form a real relationship with Sarah, but then there would be no show. He would be confined to CIA HQ in Langley with a whole train of bodyguards.
Actually, now that I think about it, it makes no sense for General Beckman to not bring him into CIA or NSA HQ. With his Intersect subliminal data, they could have him sit in an office all day reviewing evidence retrieved from missions to see what he flashes on. That way he can assist in all US intelligence activities as opposed to waiting for bad guys to make their way to LA...
Taliesinjoe
Oct 22 2008, 09:03 AM
QUOTE (CaptainJackHarkness @ Oct 22 2008, 09:59 AM)

Jill not nice? Why would we think that? All we know about her is that she left Chuck to be with Bryce, the person who fabricated the story of Chuck cheating on that easy test (nobody needs to cheat on a psychology test; they're much easier then engineering tests by far) and also got Chuck wrongfully expelled from Stanford.
Wouldn't lots of nice girls do that?
what i am implying is that she isnn't what it seems....i don;t know if u catch my drift
CaptainJackHarkness
Oct 22 2008, 09:06 AM
QUOTE (Taliesinjoe @ Oct 22 2008, 08:24 AM)

I kinda agree with u there. I know Chuck is dedicated to Sarah, and he's prolly gonna wait for her, BUT if Jill shows up and offers him somthing that he always wanted, say marriage, well i dunno how long he's gonna wait for Sarah to claim him. He's still in love with Jill somehow, and he longs to have a normal life, so i would say, it's Sarah ball now. She has to commit herself to Chuck , and she has to do it fast, or Chuck will move on. And i know that they will get together (duh

) but this is a MAJOR test, majorly for Sarah, leaving her with the BIG decision, she wants him or not? but also for Chuck, cause if he really loves Sarah, he 's gonna at the end, reject Jill and cut the last of emotional attachment thatshe has with her.
Well, in real life, I think Chuck would be mature enough to realize Sarah will have difficulty committing, so he would probably talk to her first before dating other women. I'm sure if Chuck asked her for her feelings, Sarah would open up to him a little. Especially after vs the Cougars. Of course, if this happened, the tension would be over.
As for Jill offering marriage, well, Chuck is not that pathetic. He won't run back to a woman who betrayed him so brutally...
Fan555
Oct 22 2008, 09:08 AM
QUOTE (KR1221 @ Oct 22 2008, 09:35 AM)

I think it is Jill imo, because if you look closely at it you can see the rim of someone's glasses and I don't think Sarah was wearing glasses where as Jill did.
I also do think it's Jill.
I noticed the rim of the glasses too.
The cut was just after they showed Sarah's face, so they suggest it's Sarah.

Sarah wear a black wig, but its a Cleopatra style hearcut which makes the head looks rounder, Jill having a ponytail which makes the head looks slim, and the head looks slim in that cut
Taliesinjoe
Oct 22 2008, 09:11 AM
QUOTE (CaptainJackHarkness @ Oct 22 2008, 09:06 AM)

Well, in real life, I think Chuck would be mature enough to realize Sarah will have difficulty committing, so he would probably talk to her first before dating other women. I'm sure if Chuck asked her for her feelings, Sarah would open up to him a little. Especially after vs the Cougars. Of course, if this happened, the tension would be over.
As for Jill offering marriage, well, Chuck is not that pathetic. He won't run back to a woman who betrayed him so brutally...
i know but again this is Jill, and even though she's the one that broke his heart, he still loves her, in the backburner, so his defenses against her could crumble pretty fast, and that's when Sarah has to act, to reinforce those defenses and opening up his eyes that Sarah is the only woman for him, rejecting Jill for good.
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