vbarkley... what you perceive as hate is merely other people's opinions. I agree that we should not name call, but there's no other way to describe Heba and Vicky.
It actually makes me sad for Vicky's daughter that she will someday see what a manipulative person she is. She claims to be doing Biggest Loser for her daughter, but has said numerous times that she's there for her and her husband to collect both money prizes. She never talks about her daughter and seems more interested in playing a "mean" game with Heba than in losing weight.
Heba is a Drama Queen with a capital DQ! She is NOT the quality person she claimed to be to Phil and has no class what-so-ever.
The black team is high class all the way... I just wish that Bob didn't have to deal his own team members.
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QUOTE (MAZmom @ Oct 29 2008, 02:14 PM) 
It doesn't really matter how the dinner scence was edited. Those words still came out of Heba's mouth and that is what really, really turns me off to her. She was a giant hypocrite. Her comment about having forgiven Phil and then her continuing to rant on and on. If she had really forgiven him there would have been no need for the whole "call-out" to begin with. She would have pulled him aside and said "Phil, Brady says ___this___ is what happened. I don't know if it's true or not but if it is, it hurt me and I'm upset but I am chosing to forgive you" or some variation of that. Phil, being the kind, reasonable person that he seems to be would have apologized and probably explained and that would have been that. That is how a kind and reasonable person would have handled a situation like that. Heba does not appear to be either.
And of course a slight deviation in your assessment of what makes a good person makes them a hypocrite. Some people do not handle things as classy as everyone wants them to, but if they did then we would have anything to gossip about the next day on a message board. This would be much more boring without the drama.
QUOTE (Boo1667 @ Oct 29 2008, 02:17 PM)
My DVR didn't record the show and I missed it! Arg!!!!
I saw the after shot of Phil, he looks really good. It looks like he's done a lot of work at home. During the elimination part that I saw his team says he gave up after Amy left, so it seems like getting rid of her was a good strategy for the blue team, as he seemed to do what they thought he would. Granted this is not seeing the episode, just the elimination and aftershot. Phil, Amy, and their kids looked like a fun family on the beach, and I hope they continue to do well.
So who more weight than the entire Black team? Does anyone know who lost what?
I saw the after shot of Phil, he looks really good. It looks like he's done a lot of work at home. During the elimination part that I saw his team says he gave up after Amy left, so it seems like getting rid of her was a good strategy for the blue team, as he seemed to do what they thought he would. Granted this is not seeing the episode, just the elimination and aftershot. Phil, Amy, and their kids looked like a fun family on the beach, and I hope they continue to do well.
So who more weight than the entire Black team? Does anyone know who lost what?
Boo, If you have cable you may be able to catch it on FLN Saturday and Sunday night. They play it in 2 time slots both nights.. Here on the east coast it is on at 9:00 p.m. and midnight both nights. So you have a chance to see the generally blah show. As someone else has said, it wasn't a show that made you feel good in the end..although the extra time to Amy and Phil was nice.. and a great way to honor them and celebrate their 20th. Also their family time with the boys at the beach and Phil's reveal was spectacular! Looks like he has a good shot at that $100 k..
It looked like the confrontation was with Phil and Brady. Just was just a quick shot or 2 before it switched to something else, and I can see it happening. LOL at Brady's comment "There's only room for one rooster at the house". Guess what pal, move over, it's about to be crowded again.
As well, don't forget that with all the ones voted off coming back, so is Heba's husband. Now they will have 4 votes on their side.
Finally, for Brady's 'amazing' loss. I still stick to my opinion that they rigged it. Whether or not he was chugging water, a bit of salt can do the same for retention. The Neil thing in the past was pretty obvious, but I think they tried to do this one discreetly. Camera or no camera play on Vicky's face, he beat half his team with his loss this past week. The 2 of them seemed to get on the not eating right train as soon as Bob mentioned it when he cornered them.
I'll be happy when the 4 of them are gone. Send them back to the donut shop where Bob picked them up.
As well, don't forget that with all the ones voted off coming back, so is Heba's husband. Now they will have 4 votes on their side.
Finally, for Brady's 'amazing' loss. I still stick to my opinion that they rigged it. Whether or not he was chugging water, a bit of salt can do the same for retention. The Neil thing in the past was pretty obvious, but I think they tried to do this one discreetly. Camera or no camera play on Vicky's face, he beat half his team with his loss this past week. The 2 of them seemed to get on the not eating right train as soon as Bob mentioned it when he cornered them.
I'll be happy when the 4 of them are gone. Send them back to the donut shop where Bob picked them up.
QUOTE (Giganoodle @ Oct 29 2008, 01:09 PM)
Extra gum does not taste like chocolate chip cookies.
I completely agree!!!!!!
Interesting bit of information Clicky!
Wow! Last night was the first time I wanted to cry... not out of inspiration, but sheer disappointment. So sad to see my favorite show take the drama turn. I usually am so motivated after an episode that I want to go out and run a marathon. After last night and the week before, I felt more like eating a half gallon of mint chocolate chip ice-cream. I didn't! Drank a ton of water instead.
I say, "Boo, Boo, Boo on Blue" - no Halloween pun intended!
I say, "Boo, Boo, Boo on Blue" - no Halloween pun intended!
QUOTE (Giganoodle @ Oct 29 2008, 12:59 PM)
Again, editing, people. If you all honestly think that is what the contestants are like, than I have some real estate I can sell you on the moon. Seriously gullibility is why editors still pull these tricks.
Also, it is completely possible for someone to pull a low number and then a high number. Maybe Brady didn't waterload. Maybe Vicky smiled after saying something else that get edited after she talked about that conversation. Maybe these are completely normal people who are being hurt by the amount of crap being said about them.
Maybe some of the moderators are forgetting their own rules.
Also, it is completely possible for someone to pull a low number and then a high number. Maybe Brady didn't waterload. Maybe Vicky smiled after saying something else that get edited after she talked about that conversation. Maybe these are completely normal people who are being hurt by the amount of crap being said about them.
Maybe some of the moderators are forgetting their own rules.
Check out the elimination clip. It would take some fancy editing to make Vicki look as bad as her own words do.
Her mean spirited comments are tough to consider as being anything else.
My opinion of this show is that it has finally "jumped the shark". I have no desired nor intention of watching this show again. It has lost everything I enjoyed about the show and replaced it with Drama.
People try to blame the trainers for the behavior of the contestants. Does everyone forget that Brad and Vicky have medical backgrounds? A Pharmacist and an Anesthesiologist? You don't think they could have put together a strategy before come on this show? And how they play Heba is almost hilarious if it were not so sad! They bring her a big drama and let her go crazy with it. Vicky is a classic case of someone who trys to make everyone else defensive. Whenever she says anything about "game play" it reminds me of all those in business who do something completely unethical and say, "Don't get upset! It's just BUSINESS!" No, it is lack of ethics, integrity, character and a moral standard.
Well, no use in kicking this one anymore. Going off to do bigger and better things then watch this trash. I feel sorry for Bob in this the most as I don't see him as a game player at all.
People try to blame the trainers for the behavior of the contestants. Does everyone forget that Brad and Vicky have medical backgrounds? A Pharmacist and an Anesthesiologist? You don't think they could have put together a strategy before come on this show? And how they play Heba is almost hilarious if it were not so sad! They bring her a big drama and let her go crazy with it. Vicky is a classic case of someone who trys to make everyone else defensive. Whenever she says anything about "game play" it reminds me of all those in business who do something completely unethical and say, "Don't get upset! It's just BUSINESS!" No, it is lack of ethics, integrity, character and a moral standard.
Well, no use in kicking this one anymore. Going off to do bigger and better things then watch this trash. I feel sorry for Bob in this the most as I don't see him as a game player at all.
QUOTE (Giganoodle @ Oct 29 2008, 01:41 PM)
Even hateful people can be skinny. Fat does not equal hate in heart.
Just sayin... usually there is an underlying reason that people gain the weight to begin with, if Heba doesnt address the "real stuff" she will never be able to lose the weight and keep it off. I agree, there are all kinds of people with hate in their hearts, never said you gotta be fat to be hateful!
Bottom line is, I used to enjoy the show because of the inspiration from the contestants, the motivation from the trainers and the "useful" diet and nutrition tips. Sorry but for me personally, this garbage doesnt inspire me to do anything except turn the channel.
QUOTE (hollihobbi @ Oct 29 2008, 02:05 AM)
He called her "Shakespearean". It was brilliant. Bob, you are awesome!
Hmmmmm....is she Iago or Richard III?
QUOTE (B_May @ Oct 29 2008, 01:01 PM)
I know this is a reality show but people watch for inspiration, knowledge of nutrition and fitness. Being overweight is not a laughing matter or a game and I think the show needs to get back to the basics of weight loss, not Drama101.
Welcome to the forum B_May. I am sure there are many of us that hope NBC reads our comments and changes its path when it comes to the show.
Poor, poor Bob. I sure hope they switch around the team members before too long.
And because I am not supposed to say mean things about the contestants, that's all I have to say.......
And because I am not supposed to say mean things about the contestants, that's all I have to say.......
This show still inspires me. Every time I'm at the gym I imagine Bob standing there screaming at me to go faster. And I see Heba loosing weight like she is and that motivates me because her starting size is about the same as mine. Drama makes the show entertaining, motivation keeps me watching.
I totally agree and I hadn't even thought about it untils the bloggers brought it up. This show is not really inspiring me anymore!!! It's gotten "ugly" and "shady." I used to delete the episode and feel the energy to go get my run in, etc. And today, I just watched it and I feel anxious and angry. Wow!
That's sad. I hope the right people are paying attention to this feed back and bring back the REAL show next season. I think this season is in the tank....and has far as the 100K...go Phil!!!!!
That's sad. I hope the right people are paying attention to this feed back and bring back the REAL show next season. I think this season is in the tank....and has far as the 100K...go Phil!!!!!
QUOTE (Giganoodle @ Oct 29 2008, 02:49 PM)
This show still inspires me. Every time I'm at the gym I imagine Bob standing there screaming at me to go faster. And I see Heba loosing weight like she is and that motivates me because her starting size is about the same as mine. Drama makes the show entertaining, motivation keeps me watching.
If you feel inspired, whatever you do, dont let the negative comments folks are making about the contestants hurt your motivation. Different things motivate all of us and kudos to you for finding that little bit of something that we all need. Good luck with your weight loss! I know I have always found a contestant each season to identify with, for whatever reason and it has been very helpful to me. If Heba motivates you, go for it!!! I think Heba is being used by the other two - I wouldnt doubt if they have put her up to most of this stuff. lol
QUOTE (kpw1956 @ Oct 29 2008, 01:26 PM)
Boo, If you have cable you may be able to catch it on FLN Saturday and Sunday night. They play it in 2 time slots both nights.. Here on the east coast it is on at 9:00 p.m. and midnight both nights. So you have a chance to see the generally blah show. As someone else has said, it wasn't a show that made you feel good in the end..although the extra time to Amy and Phil was nice.. and a great way to honor them and celebrate their 20th. Also their family time with the boys at the beach and Phil's reveal was spectacular! Looks like he has a good shot at that $100 k..
Thanks kpw, although if it was all more of the same, I might just skip it, lol. I might tune in to see how things really went down though, since I still don't think V/B/H are all that bad, and really tame in comparison to prior season baddies.
I do agree that Phil does look like a contender for the 100k, which suprised me since I wasn't all that impressed with Amy's transformation. I think Amy and Phil are really bland, so I'd just as soon skip their wedding hoopla, but I thought they looked really cute on the beach, and I think it's awesome that they've even inspired their son to lose weight.
QUOTE (Boo1667 @ Oct 29 2008, 03:02 PM)
Thanks kpw, although if it was all more of the same, I might just skip it, lol. I might tune in to see how things really went down though, since I still don't think V/B/H are all that bad, and really tame in comparison to prior season baddies.
I do agree that Phil does look like a contender for the 100k, which suprised me since I wasn't all that impressed with Amy's transformation. I think Amy and Phil are really bland, so I'd just as soon skip their wedding hoopla, but I thought they looked really cute on the beach, and I think it's awesome that they've even inspired their son to lose weight.
I do agree that Phil does look like a contender for the 100k, which suprised me since I wasn't all that impressed with Amy's transformation. I think Amy and Phil are really bland, so I'd just as soon skip their wedding hoopla, but I thought they looked really cute on the beach, and I think it's awesome that they've even inspired their son to lose weight.
I think the world would be a much nicer place if people were more 'bland'...
There have been some previous contestants who were disliked but never did they it take the level it has this season and getting personal. It was hard enough to watch it season 3 when Adrian and the other guy came back into the game. That was a first.. and a couple of the women had a hissy fit.. But they really shouldn't have taken it out on the poor girl it wasn't her fault. It will be interesting to see who comes back into the game in 2 weeks.. How will the existing players respond? Could depend on who it is. We don't know how many might get plopped back into the game. Maybe and hopefully more than 1 or 2..
QUOTE (CrabShaman @ Oct 29 2008, 07:34 AM)
Right! Let me take care of this from last week.
On My Way Now makes me all giddy and stuff. Heeeeeeeeeee! One of these days, I'll have a picture up. *blush*
Righty!
As much as the product placement invokes eye-rolling, the book that was being highlighted is a great one indeed. Go forth, and buy this book, and all the others in the series. Please make the check out to "CrabShaman", folks. Seriously, the books are eye-opening, and fun to read. Meanwhile, the chewing gum spot was hilariously contrived. Heba and the shining beacon of cuteness that is Amy saying "MMMMMM" in unison made me laugh my head clean off. I hope that spot got Bob a Maserati...or at least a jacuzzi or something.
There was a disturbing lack of Jillian in this episode, which made me sad. Yeah, a couple of weeks back I was unhappy with a largely-missing Bob. The irony isn't lost on me. Still, the show is just as much about the trials and tribulations of the trainers as it is the contestants. It's about Jillian, the matron goddess of fitness, who cradles the hopelessly insane in her toned arms, once again doing battle with Bob, a heavily-tattooed pillar of integrity, as he fights to keep everyone on the level in the name of truth, justice, and the American way...and weight loss.
I found the challenge to be less one-sided than it probably could have been. The Blue Team got utterly and completely whalloped last week, but the Black team made a match of it, rather than merely give up. Don't ever count out Renee, who has proven herself time and again to be "mighty". She could bench press a Buick and sing the national anthems of fifteen countries, in key, while doing it.
Cripes...I'm running out of things to talk about before I go into the exquisite integrity and maturity that is the Blue team...
Man, how I miss Phil already. He's a class act, and he really fought his heart out, not only with his own weight-loss, but also against the childish, petty, whimpering, bullying, political machinations of...
...you know who I miss? Neil. Man, I loved that guy. He could put the water away, too! Great fellow, Neil. Truly a handsome guy, with great taste in women. I remember that his girlfriend was just gorgeous, and kind, and fashionable, and supportive. I wonder how Neil is doing these days? I'll bet he knows what a mussel is, too! I could never, ever wish that he'd regain all of his weight and then some, and wind up on a Discovery Science Channel special. No way.
It's great to see that Phil will be back next episode. Oh, heck, it looks like at least seven of the nine eliminated people will come back. O, the drama! O, the brilliant success of the home team! O...the fistfight? I'm not holding my breath. It would be just loverly to see my hometown heroes on Green make a special guest appearance. Tom and LT will, with any luck, chew Extra sugarless five-calorie gum and kick some booty...and run out of Extra sugarless five-calorie gum (because they need it for a product placement spot).
Anyhow, now that it looks like they're back to singles, all the alliances in the world aren't going to mean a thing. If two blues go under the dreaded yellow line, kaboom! As ye sow, so shall ye reap. Karma...it's not just for hippies anymore. Amy, my quiet, sensitive, beautiful, loving, Jackie-esque feminine ideal, will hopefully come out of this totally unscathed.
On My Way Now makes me all giddy and stuff. Heeeeeeeeeee! One of these days, I'll have a picture up. *blush*
Righty!
As much as the product placement invokes eye-rolling, the book that was being highlighted is a great one indeed. Go forth, and buy this book, and all the others in the series. Please make the check out to "CrabShaman", folks. Seriously, the books are eye-opening, and fun to read. Meanwhile, the chewing gum spot was hilariously contrived. Heba and the shining beacon of cuteness that is Amy saying "MMMMMM" in unison made me laugh my head clean off. I hope that spot got Bob a Maserati...or at least a jacuzzi or something.
There was a disturbing lack of Jillian in this episode, which made me sad. Yeah, a couple of weeks back I was unhappy with a largely-missing Bob. The irony isn't lost on me. Still, the show is just as much about the trials and tribulations of the trainers as it is the contestants. It's about Jillian, the matron goddess of fitness, who cradles the hopelessly insane in her toned arms, once again doing battle with Bob, a heavily-tattooed pillar of integrity, as he fights to keep everyone on the level in the name of truth, justice, and the American way...and weight loss.
I found the challenge to be less one-sided than it probably could have been. The Blue Team got utterly and completely whalloped last week, but the Black team made a match of it, rather than merely give up. Don't ever count out Renee, who has proven herself time and again to be "mighty". She could bench press a Buick and sing the national anthems of fifteen countries, in key, while doing it.
Cripes...I'm running out of things to talk about before I go into the exquisite integrity and maturity that is the Blue team...
Man, how I miss Phil already. He's a class act, and he really fought his heart out, not only with his own weight-loss, but also against the childish, petty, whimpering, bullying, political machinations of...
...you know who I miss? Neil. Man, I loved that guy. He could put the water away, too! Great fellow, Neil. Truly a handsome guy, with great taste in women. I remember that his girlfriend was just gorgeous, and kind, and fashionable, and supportive. I wonder how Neil is doing these days? I'll bet he knows what a mussel is, too! I could never, ever wish that he'd regain all of his weight and then some, and wind up on a Discovery Science Channel special. No way.
It's great to see that Phil will be back next episode. Oh, heck, it looks like at least seven of the nine eliminated people will come back. O, the drama! O, the brilliant success of the home team! O...the fistfight? I'm not holding my breath. It would be just loverly to see my hometown heroes on Green make a special guest appearance. Tom and LT will, with any luck, chew Extra sugarless five-calorie gum and kick some booty...and run out of Extra sugarless five-calorie gum (because they need it for a product placement spot).
Anyhow, now that it looks like they're back to singles, all the alliances in the world aren't going to mean a thing. If two blues go under the dreaded yellow line, kaboom! As ye sow, so shall ye reap. Karma...it's not just for hippies anymore. Amy, my quiet, sensitive, beautiful, loving, Jackie-esque feminine ideal, will hopefully come out of this totally unscathed.
Best. Show assessment. Ever.
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QUOTE (CrabShaman @ Oct 29 2008, 12:05 PM)
This mammoth conflict between teams can only be settled with Sugar-Free Jell-O Wrestling! At only ten calories per serving, you can faceplant and not gain an ounce! Brady and Phil can finally 'rassle it out, and Heba and Vicky can take on Amy P. and a partner of her choosing. Will it be Bob? Jillian? VBarkley? The odd-looking but nice camera person?
Great idea for a challenge! 
QUOTE (Giganoodle @ Oct 29 2008, 12:39 PM)
It's Miss Noodles to you! Muhaahaha. J/K. No, I'm not angry, I just think some of the things that people are saying about the contestants is incredibly childish. Like someone said Vicky looks like ***** or something. That is completely uncalled for. Nothing to do with you.
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I have watched BL for a few seasons now. This show for many an inspiration. However, this season has just been awful. I do not care for the drama -- I want honesty, integrity & hard work. I am not sure what NBC thought they were doing this season. I know the producers are urging on the conflicts. Shame on them! If I wanted to watch that type of action there are plenty of other reality shows that I could watch & I don't. I think that the contestants for next season's show (if it is still on the air) should sign a honesty oath before starting on the show. If they are caught being dishonest -- cheating or lying the are automatically the one booted for that week no matter who falls below the yellow line. And no second chances.
I too think the world would be a much nicer place with more blah people and less game players. I think there is editing and the producers are setting some of these things up. But, that mentality has to be there for a person to do these things. And no matter how some try to justify what they are doing in their Blogs there is no excuse whatsoever. Also, people do not lose "a little weight" on the show. For most it is a lifesaving (life extending) -- life changing event.
I think Phil is a true gentleman. Since he was not allowed to talk at the confrontation we have no idea of what the conversation with Brady actually was. We do not know if Brady's account was truthful or exaggerated.
I feel so sorry for Bob this year. Hopefully next time around he can train a better class of people.
I too think the world would be a much nicer place with more blah people and less game players. I think there is editing and the producers are setting some of these things up. But, that mentality has to be there for a person to do these things. And no matter how some try to justify what they are doing in their Blogs there is no excuse whatsoever. Also, people do not lose "a little weight" on the show. For most it is a lifesaving (life extending) -- life changing event.
I think Phil is a true gentleman. Since he was not allowed to talk at the confrontation we have no idea of what the conversation with Brady actually was. We do not know if Brady's account was truthful or exaggerated.
I feel so sorry for Bob this year. Hopefully next time around he can train a better class of people.
Totally agree. This is the first season I've ever watched where I dislike several of the contestants. I would rather watch a show about people losing weight like it was in the past. Not a show with back stabbing, selfishness and little baby games. I DVR the show and if it is too annoying I just forward to the weigh in to spare myself the drama.
QUOTE (Alaina698 @ Oct 28 2008, 07:17 PM)
GO BOB!!!! I'm so glad he called Vicky out on her game playing. She has been scheming with Heba and Brady from the beginning and I hope they get what they deserve soon!
QUOTE (kpw1956 @ Oct 29 2008, 02:13 PM)
I think the world would be a much nicer place if people were more 'bland'...
I know some people prefer a distinct lack of personality, I'm not really one of them. I don't think Phil and Amy are bad people, and they have a lovely family, but they just don't shine. They have none of the personality that previous contestants have had, and they were marketed as the good guys this season. There is nothing remarkable about them at all, so it's hard to root for them to take out the baddies when they are such wet noodles. They remind of those old cartoons where the valiant knight draws his sword, and it's really just a floppy fish.
Also, from reading the board, I gather that Heba went all nuts on Phil calling him hateful, which is really unfortunate as I was starting to like Heba. While I don't care for V/B/H or Phil/Amy, I at least thought Heba was starting to get better. I don't think V/B/H are the root of all evil (they are waaay too bland to get there), but they have been less than flattering themselves, and hypocrisy from these contestants bugs me more than anything else.
I just want an Amy C./Coleen finale, no one else need be in it to win it.
[quote name='koi_girl' date='Oct 29 2008, 09:11 AM' post='3534701']
CLEVER Bob!!!! I laughed so hard when he said "that wife....that wife....she's Shakespearean!" (Had to put on closed captions to get his exact wording there)! Obvious allusion to Lady Macbeth!
Well, there is another Shakespeare play that comes to mind, The Taming of the... but I digress.
CLEVER Bob!!!! I laughed so hard when he said "that wife....that wife....she's Shakespearean!" (Had to put on closed captions to get his exact wording there)! Obvious allusion to Lady Macbeth!
Well, there is another Shakespeare play that comes to mind, The Taming of the... but I digress.
QUOTE (Alaina698 @ Oct 28 2008, 08:17 PM)
GO BOB!!!! I'm so glad he called Vicky out on her game playing. She has been scheming with Heba and Brady from the beginning and I hope they get what they deserve soon!
I totally agree. This the first time that I've ever felt compelled to come to a message board, but I can't take it anymore. I understand vbarkley saying that this is a family-friendly-type area, but if some of those contestants can act like that on national TV, then I feel like I can say whatever I want; but I won't because at least have more common courtesy and decency. I've always liked this show because it is so positive and strives to help people, but enough already with the "drama". It is over-the-top - worse than high school. I should just turn on 90210 (and I know someone will probably tell me to do that or worse). But seriously, those two un-named women should be ashamed of themselves. Talk about blowing something completely out-of-proportion and dragging everyone in on it. I could go on, but I can't believe how mad I'm getting so I'll stop. I'm taking a break from the show - especially b/c I see that there will be another stupid argument next week. Once they get back to the training, I'll start watching. Until then, I think I'll start watching Days of Our Lives...
I have to agree with the majority of these comments. I too have never posted on a forum before, but I just couldn't let last night's ridiculous episode go without comment. I think BL is one of the best shows on television. I've been a fan from day one, but I am really disappointed with not only the contestants lack of class but also the producers choosing to focus on such poor behavior from "adults". The blue team with the exception on Amy are by far a group with the worst attitude of any season. Their comments about the other team and their own game play make me nauseous. If the higher ups decide to continue the show with this level of integrity, it may be my last season supporting the show which is a shame because it really was a great idea. It's inspired myself and many others to make healthy changes. I'm disappointed.
QUOTE (BL20541 @ Oct 29 2008, 04:07 PM)
I have to say, I've never posted on message boards before. But Brady, Vicky, & Hebba make me sick.
These people are adults, correct? They are the kind of people you just avoid in life because they are so miserable.
Sickening people, horrible personalities, if one of the three wins the show then I will never watch it again.
Phil is a great guy, I hope he wins the at home prize.
These people are adults, correct? They are the kind of people you just avoid in life because they are so miserable.
Sickening people, horrible personalities, if one of the three wins the show then I will never watch it again.
Phil is a great guy, I hope he wins the at home prize.
Phil, really?? The guy who couldn't talk b/c he had a peanut butter cup in his mouth...
A little over the top with you're review of B/V/H, but I agree that they are not adults. I just think they should be embarassed of themselves. I can't wait for this season to be over. Worst casting ever.
QUOTE (daebj @ Oct 29 2008, 04:49 PM)
I have to agree with the majority of these comments. I too have never posted on a forum before, but I just couldn't let last night's ridiculous episode go without comment. I think BL is one of the best shows on television. I've been a fan from day one, but I am really disappointed with not only the contestants lack of class but also the producers choosing to focus on such poor behavior from "adults". The blue team with the exception on Amy are by far a group with the worst attitude of any season. Their comments about the other team and their own game play make me nauseous. If the higher ups decide to continue the show with this level of integrity, it may be my last season supporting the show which is a shame because it really was a great idea. It's inspired myself and many others to make healthy changes. I'm disappointed.
Very well said. I will also stop watching if this is what the show is going to focus on. This is the only reality show I watch, and I do so because of how positive it was. Please go back to that; not everything needs to have such childish "drama".
well let me just say first off that i have been a fan of this show for a very long time. However this is the first time I have seem someone behave in such a manner as to make me want to come on here and say what I think. So I will be as nice as possible. Forgive me if I don't have all of the names correct.
ok so I thought that Vickie (bradys wife) was the only one in that couple that was well lets say a "game player" i mean did you see those smiles she would have on her face when something was going down? It was like the joker. I really thought brady was kinda just playing along because she is his wife and some people just let their spouses act like that to other people and do nothing about it as to not make waves.But did you hear that comment brady made about there is only room for one rooster in the hen house and that is him? So I find it interesting that they "confront" Phil in front of the entire black team. I think they wanted to turn the black team against phil so they would vote him off. I mean it is not big surprise that Brady is going to have a really great weigh in after throwing the weigh in the week before. YES he totally did it and he and is wife didn't cover it up very well. I mean come on "well brady hasn't been eating every four hours" give me a break anyone with any knowledge what so ever could come up with that. They knew they were going to use that crap before they even sat down and spoke with bob. So knowing that they are going to win the weigh in they try to turn the black team against Phil to get him OUT. I don't know what phil said to brady but I think brady would lie in a heartbeat to get phil out so I don't trust anything he has to say. Of all the people and the game play on this show those two are by far the worse example of deserving contestants i have ever seen. As for Hebba well I think if I were on a team with brady and vicky I would play along why?? because you don't want them targeting you next.. But I will say this she will not last long.. does she really think they will keep her around? NOPE only as long and she is doing something for them and that is it.. As for the young girl on the blue team I kind of feel bad for her. I don't think she has anything to do with everything and she is just trying to do her best. I think the black team as got it right.. at least for now. they play as a team, they decide who is leaving as a team.GO BLACK! and you know what?? if we have learned anything about this show it is that those people voted off are gonna come back and they could very well kick some blue team butt.. and lets all hope they do.. I hope brady and vickie are totally ashamed of themselves. National tv and everyone sees what you are doing and people don't like it one bit.I couldn't act like that not ever I don't care how much money you throw at me. I hope in the furture NBC finds people that are worthy of being on this show..
ok so I thought that Vickie (bradys wife) was the only one in that couple that was well lets say a "game player" i mean did you see those smiles she would have on her face when something was going down? It was like the joker. I really thought brady was kinda just playing along because she is his wife and some people just let their spouses act like that to other people and do nothing about it as to not make waves.But did you hear that comment brady made about there is only room for one rooster in the hen house and that is him? So I find it interesting that they "confront" Phil in front of the entire black team. I think they wanted to turn the black team against phil so they would vote him off. I mean it is not big surprise that Brady is going to have a really great weigh in after throwing the weigh in the week before. YES he totally did it and he and is wife didn't cover it up very well. I mean come on "well brady hasn't been eating every four hours" give me a break anyone with any knowledge what so ever could come up with that. They knew they were going to use that crap before they even sat down and spoke with bob. So knowing that they are going to win the weigh in they try to turn the black team against Phil to get him OUT. I don't know what phil said to brady but I think brady would lie in a heartbeat to get phil out so I don't trust anything he has to say. Of all the people and the game play on this show those two are by far the worse example of deserving contestants i have ever seen. As for Hebba well I think if I were on a team with brady and vicky I would play along why?? because you don't want them targeting you next.. But I will say this she will not last long.. does she really think they will keep her around? NOPE only as long and she is doing something for them and that is it.. As for the young girl on the blue team I kind of feel bad for her. I don't think she has anything to do with everything and she is just trying to do her best. I think the black team as got it right.. at least for now. they play as a team, they decide who is leaving as a team.GO BLACK! and you know what?? if we have learned anything about this show it is that those people voted off are gonna come back and they could very well kick some blue team butt.. and lets all hope they do.. I hope brady and vickie are totally ashamed of themselves. National tv and everyone sees what you are doing and people don't like it one bit.I couldn't act like that not ever I don't care how much money you throw at me. I hope in the furture NBC finds people that are worthy of being on this show..
[quote name='vbarkley' date='Oct 28 2008, 04:41 PM' post='3533348']
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I just really need to say in the most respectful way...I can not stand Heba or the old Orange team!!!
Folks, please make sure you read the FAQ and Forum Rules before posting. We strive to keep this a friendly and welcoming board. You may have negative opinions about the show and the contestants; that is ok. However, you cannot post in a hateful manner; the contestants are just everyday people, and they have friends and relatives who come to this board. Please post in a manner that is respectful to those on the show and to other members.
I just really need to say in the most respectful way...I can not stand Heba or the old Orange team!!!
I too am very disillusioned with the way the show is going. Vicky (and Brady) who have an overweight child should be more concerned about getting the child on the right track and healthy. Instead Vicky said that she was there to win the $350,000.00 ($250,000 and $100,000). As for Heba, well she says she wants to get healthy so that she can start a family. Heba needs to Grow Up first, I can't believe she got the blue team together and interrupted the other team's lunch because "Phil said mean things about her". This show is slotted against the second part of Dancing with the Stars, that is a show I just started watching last season. I have watched The Biggest Loser from Day one. All I can say NBC is that you have lost another viewer. I find Dancing with the Stars much classier. Keep this up and The Biggest Loser with be the Biggest Viewer Loser.
Can someone explain to me what Phil actually said to Brady out on the basketball court? I thought it was kind of suspicious of Brady to tell Heba that Phil had told Brady something about Heba. Was Phil really that stupid?? Or did Brady "elaborate" on something Phil said? Heba would believe what Brady said no matter what. Brady and Vicky could have gotten their heads together on this one and Heba would have bought anything they told her. This season seems to have the worst sportmanlike conduct too. Since when is it okay to heckle another team. And when Vicky said "the reward isn't worth doing it" on the previous episode I was shocked.
I have watched the show since it's inception and am appalled at the conduct of these players.
Just my $.02
I have watched the show since it's inception and am appalled at the conduct of these players.
Just my $.02
QUOTE (Katieqball @ Oct 28 2008, 07:59 PM)
I too am glad that Bob called them out but you can clearly tell they were lying. I am SO sick of the blue team. Vicky LOVES the drama doesnt she? And Heba WOW.. TOO much to even say about her.
I agree with you about the blue team. One thing I can't believe is that Amy C. is buying into all the shenanigans that the blue team is pulling. I had really thought more of her than that before this episode. I know she is probably trying to fit in because she knows that if the blue team votes again, she will be gone. (Since she is not in the "alliance"!) But, I would like to see her stand up for what it right and focus on her weight loss. She should not stoop so low.
I really hope there is a different type of contestant selection next season, if there is one. Get rid of this friends/family crap, and most of the absurd drama will thankfully go away. Some of the best seasons were when they grouped complete strangers. Sorry, but the only thing going this season is too much drama. I have watched and been a fan of all the BL seasons, but of all of them, this season is the...
Worst. Ever.
Worst. Ever.
QUOTE (sharonfree @ Oct 29 2008, 04:34 PM)
Can someone explain to me what Phil actually said to Brady out on the basketball court? I thought it was kind of suspicious of Brady to tell Heba that Phil had told Brady something about Heba. Was Phil really that stupid?? Or did Brady "elaborate" on something Phil said? Heba would believe what Brady said no matter what. Brady and Vicky could have gotten their heads together on this one and Heba would have bought anything they told her.
We don't know what was really said for a fact because they've never aired the actual conversation. So far, it's only just been Brady's version, Phil claiming he didn't say that and Amy saying in an interview that Phil didn't say that, which seemed to indicate she wasn't there, she just got that from Phil. We don't know if and how much Brady embellished or if Phil did mention eliminating Heba by name in an attempt to save his wife. Unless they air the unedited conversation, we may never know how it really played out.
QUOTE (ambea @ Oct 29 2008, 05:36 PM)
I agree with you about the blue team. One thing I can't believe is that Amy C. is buying into all the shenanigans that the blue team is pulling. I had really thought more of her than that before this episode. I know she is probably trying to fit in because she knows that if the blue team votes again, she will be gone. (Since she is not in the "alliance"!) But, I would like to see her stand up for what it right and focus on her weight loss. She should not stoop so low.
Amy C IS focusing on her weight lost. She has the best percentage lost of any current player. I think she is getting along as best she can and laying low. I don't consider Amy to be "stooping" at all. You never see her involved with any of the drama the other 3 blue members cause.
QUOTE (on my way now @ Oct 29 2008, 05:50 PM)
Amy C IS focusing on her weight lost. She has the best percentage lost of any current player. I think she is getting along as best she can and laying low. I don't consider Amy to be "stooping" at all. You never see her involved with any of the drama the other 3 blue members cause.
I totally agree here, what in the world has Amy done. She cannot help what her teammates has done
QUOTE (chazee @ Oct 29 2008, 05:55 PM)
I totally agree here, what in the world has Amy done. She cannot help what her teammates has done
She really has no choice but to get it in gear. If Blue fell below again, she'd be going home. There'd just be the Apple Fritter gang left.
Heba was the last vote last week, and if she was smart, she should have sent brady home.
QUOTE (sloppyoer @ Oct 29 2008, 06:09 PM)
She really has no choice but to get it in gear. If Blue fell below again, she'd be going home. There'd just be the Apple Fritter gang left.
Heba was the last vote last week, and if she was smart, she should have sent brady home.
Heba was the last vote last week, and if she was smart, she should have sent brady home.
The absolute best description to date!!
I can't resist the impulse to add my two cents also. I'm not going to get personal or name call, but I just want to say that I have always loved and been inspired by the Biggest Loser. I've always eagerly devoured every episode and been richly satisfied...until this season.
I'm not sure I want to finish the season, but I suppose I will as I will be curious to see how everyone looks. But honestly, the show has really gone downhill. It seems to no longer be about weight loss and is more about conspiring and back stabbing.
I'm very disappointed with this season. I wish the producers would forget about the cheap thrills and get back to the basics of WEIGHT LOSS. I'm tired of this game play. I also hope they DON'T do any more couples show. It has really ruined the format, I think. That's all.
I'm not sure I want to finish the season, but I suppose I will as I will be curious to see how everyone looks. But honestly, the show has really gone downhill. It seems to no longer be about weight loss and is more about conspiring and back stabbing.
I'm very disappointed with this season. I wish the producers would forget about the cheap thrills and get back to the basics of WEIGHT LOSS. I'm tired of this game play. I also hope they DON'T do any more couples show. It has really ruined the format, I think. That's all.
Okay, so I am new here. I am one of many who joined just to state how sad and frustrated I am that TBL has sunk to this level. Many posts have alluded to the fact that maybe the producers will read and take note. How can we really let them know that we hate how this is going and that we miss the old days???? I know that I am waxing poetic here, but I don't think I can watch much more. I am more hooked to the message board than I am the show!!!!!! Seriously though, any ideas on how we can get our voices heard?
Seriously though, any ideas on how we can get our voices heard?
QUOTE (Giganoodle @ Oct 29 2008, 12:31 AM)
I happen to love Heba. I think she is doing awesome. Some people forget how hard it is for bigger girls, like 275+, to lose weight and she has almost lost 50 lbs.
And she is way more interesting to watch than most of the other contestants. I get a little tired of all of the tears and cliche weight loss moments. I like drama. Eventually all of the other contestants blur together but when you look back on season whatever this is you will remember the drama. Everyone remembers that bald dude's hissy fits in season one, Heather from season three, Neil's water loading in season four, plot against the black team in season five, and then we'll all remember Vicky manipulating the game this season.
Also, please remember that there is a whole lot of editing going on. Vicky and Heba could be, and probably are, incredibly nice people but someone will play the villain if it gets ratings.
And she is way more interesting to watch than most of the other contestants. I get a little tired of all of the tears and cliche weight loss moments. I like drama. Eventually all of the other contestants blur together but when you look back on season whatever this is you will remember the drama. Everyone remembers that bald dude's hissy fits in season one, Heather from season three, Neil's water loading in season four, plot against the black team in season five, and then we'll all remember Vicky manipulating the game this season.
Also, please remember that there is a whole lot of editing going on. Vicky and Heba could be, and probably are, incredibly nice people but someone will play the villain if it gets ratings.
True, they are probably great people, just getting too caught up in the moment.
QUOTE (vbarkley @ Oct 29 2008, 12:11 AM)
No, she did win the challenge in week 3, which was a package from home. She & Brady got one, and they were allowed to give one to one other team of their choosing. They gave the additional package from home to Amy and Phil.
Ok my bad - she did well in one challenge and all the others she gave up right after they started - like the hiking challenges and the rope holding - she was first to stop so Brady could do all the work. Her one time of putting forth any effort as the others do every week does not make her any more deserving in my mind - again she can go home at any time and the show would be more enjoyable. Poor Bob . . . .
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QUOTE (chazee @ Oct 29 2008, 06:04 PM)
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If you have a problem, just shoot us a PM and let us know, that's the only way we can help.
If you came here to complain about the show's format, then please go and vote now in the poll. Let your voice be heard.
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QUOTE (thatchy @ Oct 29 2008, 07:27 PM)
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I arrived at the gym this morning and Heba was the only topic of conversation this morning. Every Wed morning the topic is TBL. (My boyfriend owns a personal training gym and always wishes he could talk to his clients the way Bob and Jillian talk to the contestants on the show. 
) The show is so phenomenal in the way it shows people you REALLY have to work to see results, but whatever your fears, insecurities, and demons you may have inside you, if you put in the effort you will succeed. I hate losing respect for any of the contestants, but I want to really be invested in the people who I can relate to. Only one person has turned us off....I know the drama is good for ratings, but it doesn't feel good to watch one person being verbally ambushed by another. Honestly, I hope it doesn't escalate...I don't want to have to keep muting the television....
) The show is so phenomenal in the way it shows people you REALLY have to work to see results, but whatever your fears, insecurities, and demons you may have inside you, if you put in the effort you will succeed. I hate losing respect for any of the contestants, but I want to really be invested in the people who I can relate to. Only one person has turned us off....I know the drama is good for ratings, but it doesn't feel good to watch one person being verbally ambushed by another. Honestly, I hope it doesn't escalate...I don't want to have to keep muting the television....
QUOTE (lvsnitter @ Oct 29 2008, 07:33 PM)
I arrived at the gym this morning and Heba was the only topic of conversation this morning. Every Wed morning the topic is TBL. (My boyfriend owns a personal training gym and always wishes he could talk to his clients the way Bob and Jillian talk to the contestants on the show. ) The show is so phenomenal in the way it shows people you REALLY have to work to see results, but whatever your fears, insecurities, and demons you may have inside you, if you put in the effort you will succeed. I hate losing respect for any of the contestants, but I want to really be invested in the people who I can relate to. Only one person has turned us off....I know the drama is good for ratings, but it doesn't feel good to watch one person being verbally ambushed by another. Honestly, I hope it doesn't escalate...I don't want to have to keep muting the television....
) The show is so phenomenal in the way it shows people you REALLY have to work to see results, but whatever your fears, insecurities, and demons you may have inside you, if you put in the effort you will succeed. I hate losing respect for any of the contestants, but I want to really be invested in the people who I can relate to. Only one person has turned us off....I know the drama is good for ratings, but it doesn't feel good to watch one person being verbally ambushed by another. Honestly, I hope it doesn't escalate...I don't want to have to keep muting the television....I completely agree--I couldn't watch the third grade verbal smackdown that was going on. The past few seasons I eagerly hopped on my treadmill every wednesday morning and watched the show--today I was just so deflated and got off a mile short of my daily routine. I don't wish ill on anyone, but I do hope good conquers evil by the end of season 6, and next season I can once again be inspired and entertained--the right way.
QUOTE (kmgdr22301 @ Oct 28 2008, 06:21 PM)
this show used to inspire people, now i cant help but see the "ugly americans" europeans often make fun of
Well, I wouldn't say that we Americans hold the monopoly on ugly (acting) people. Generally, people are people.
I will say that our casting departments for reality shows might look for an eclectic variety of people, including some who might and do stir up trouble.
I wish it were not that way.
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