CHUCK
CHUCK VERSUS THE EX
11-10-2008 8:00PM

ABSENCE MAKES THE HEART GROW FONDER—JORDANA BREWSTER (“THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS”) and TONY HALE ("Arrested Development") GUEST STAR—Chuck (Zachary Levi) runs into his ex-girlfriend Jill (guest star Jordana Brewster) while on a Nerd Herd call. In an attempt to save face, he lies to the girl who broke his heart and tells her that he is more successful than he really is. When Chuck flashes on Jill’s boss—a research scientist who may have developed a deadly bio-weapon, he, Sarah (Yvonne Strahovski) and Casey (Adam Baldwin) must find out if Jill is involved. Meanwhile at the Buy More, Big Mike (Mark Christopher Lawrence) nearly chokes to death, which leads company efficiency expert Emmett (guest star Tony Hale) to implement a mandatory CPR course taught by Captain Awesome (Ryan McPartlin). Sarah Lancaster, Scott Krinsky, Vik Sahay, Julia Ling, Mark Christopher Lawrence also star.

Show Cast: Zachary Levi, Yvonne Strahovski, Adam Baldwin, Joshua Gomez, Sarah Lancaster, Ryan McPartlin, Mark Christopher Lawrence, Vik Sahay, Scott Krinsky, Julia Ling

airing on the 11th? isit the election or something on the 3rd and 10th?

Election night is always on Tuesday night...

im from UK so only really know they are in coming months
have a two week break from chuck I shall have to watch season 1 again

I hope the writing is clever enough to explain why Chuck would want to see Jill after she dumped him for Bryce. I'm assuming since everyone knew Chuck was expelled for cheating, she knew Bryce accused Chuck of cheating and took his word for it instead of asking for Chuck's side of the story. This type of cruel betrayal alone should make Chuck despise Jill.

I can understand Chuck lying to Jill and telling her he's very rich because at least it would sort of rub it in her face that she dumped the wrong man, but if Chuck starts dating her, unless it's for a mission, the episode would make no sense.

My thoughts exactly, i second that

Same here KR1221, i'm a little confused too...
But the TV here will be swamped with the election too so...At least we'll have some idea.

Captain,

'Why Chuck would want to see Jill after she dumped him for Bryce'....Doesn't Chuck just run into Jill unplanned?...

I can understand, strictly for the sake of the mission, why Chuck would 'have' to meet up with Jill again during the episode...Even if he wasnt comfortable with the situation..
They lying part, heck' i would do that too .

But oh' yes...Despise he should..

This episode is somewhat of a defining episode in my opinion...
The legendary Jill...
Charah...

I hope Jill is back for more then just a romantic competitor for Chuck's affections, otherwise she becomes another Bryce, whose sole purpose is just to add tension to the Chuck Sarah dynamic.

I don't mind the tension as it keeps viewers watching, but the show could evolve into something better if there was more intelligence added to the plots. The storylines are too simple now: they end within an hour and there is nothing really suspenseful going on except whether Chuck and Sarah will get together for real or not.

Episode 2.05 will be broadcast next Monday. The week after there is no "Chuck." On November 10th, we have episode 2.06, then on November 17th, we have episode 2.07.

What?? We have to go 2 weeks without Chuck? That is just not fair.

If Chuck does date Jill it had better be because of a mission. If not, then I hope that Sarah shoots him in the foot and drags his sorry butt to an underground facility.

agreed ^^

It's ONE week without "Chuck." How do you come up with two weeks?

it's two weeks between the end of the episode to the start of this one 27th october too 10th of november.

sorry realised my mistake in the US you put the month they day11/10, we do opposite of here 10/11 (still I would of seen october if I didn't read it so quickly 11/10) sorry if I've confused anyone

I hope Morgan, Ellie and Awesome help her too.

Maybe I have too high expectations here, but I was hoping a TV series would attempt to hold some form of moral ground here, especially a show more targeted to young people. Bad enough there is so much violence, betrayal and adultery on prime time TV, but this? I mean, Chuck knows Sarah's father was imprisoned during her high school years, and that Sarah suffered throughout high school. To just abandon her knowing from Bryce how she feels about him would be like kicking a wounded animal.

Despite how hurt I felt for Chuck when he saw Bryce and Sarah kissing in his bedroom, this to me is a hundred times worse. If I were Casey and watching this, I would lose all respect for Chuck.

If hope Ellie finds out about this and gives Chuck a good bitch-slapping.

^One of the few good things that may come out from Chuck dating Jill is that it will bring Ellie and Sarah closer. I have a feeling that Ellie hates Jill and wants to set Sarah and Chuck back together. Besides Sarah is her bridesmaid.

Some Ellie and Sarah scenes are really badly needed.

Is the actress that is playing Jill the same actress that was on the show "Jake 2.0"? If so, she's a cutie.

Well not to do the advocate's devil, but it's ok for Chuck to keep getting screwed up, first Bryce with Jill, then seeing Bryce kissing Sarah passionately in 2 occasions, but it's not if he gets to kiss Jill in a moment of unsecurity or something like that. I mean, he still has something for Jill, we all know that, and now that she's back, apparently to try to claim him back, those feelings that are in the backburner will come up strong upfront, and Chuck being still so emotionally attached, will lose the battle and fall for Jill's advances. It happened the same for Sarah, but again, that was ok, but this is not? And of course i won;t have to remind u that, he will probably be totally feel guilty after that, and either try to talk Sarah about it, or close himself to it , leading to Sarah talk to him.

Sarah's life is a sad story and she's quite the emotional wreck. She's probably never had friends, and her childhood was spent risking her life by helping her father commit cons. She was picked on a lot at high school, and when she finally found happiness with Bryce, he just abandons her without notice.

Therefore, Chuck should be able to understand and accept Sarah for being confused with Bryce in vs the Nemesis.

I realize Chuck's life wasn't perfect, but Sarah's was a hundred times worse. That's my rationale why it's not ok for Chuck to be confused by Jill...

It's nice to have empathy for Sarah but, in fairness, Chuck doesn't know a lot of those facts. She is not totally blameless here. She watched someone that (we think) she loves come to her room bearing a rose and a bottle of wine only to find her ex in the room. A normal person would not have let Chuck leave without reassuring him that he didn't have anything to worry about. As a matter of fact, the absence of that reassurance is evidence that he does have something to worry about.

I think we should remember that Chuck has history with Jill-- a long and painful history. How many of us could have certain 'exes' walk into our lives and go absolutely STOOOPID!

Chuck met Jill in freshman year at college and from wha was dating her senior year? That's nearly four years of history as convoluted, probably as passionate, and yes, real! (like really having sex and late night studies and conversations where both sides are actually telling the truth), than he has with Sarah.

And to top it off it ended probably quite horribly and from Chuck's side something that wasn't his fault and maybe not Jill's fault either, but based in Bryce's one big whopper of a lie.

I like Sarah but there can be no Charah until Chill or Juck starts up again and ends in something that wasn't caused by Bryce's 'saving/wrecking of Chuck's life.

That scene was a real disservice to the character of Sarah. It was like the writers just wanted to have that scene so there will be more tension for the OO scene with Bryce later on, and more puppy dog whipped looks from Zachary. They sacrificed Sarah's character, and I do not think she is that insensitive. She could have stepped out into the hallway, whispered in Chuck's ear that Bryce was in town for official business, taken his rose, and give him a peck on the cheek before sending him home.

Better yet, she could have thrown Bryce out on his ear for the night and told him that her and Chuck needed some privacy lol. I know, total fanfic daydream.

But it wasn't only that scene. It kinda seemed that Sarah and Chuck didn't talk to each other about it at all. If they did then Chuck wouldn't have been so jealous during the dance.

I don't know you, but if i had a girlfriend for 4 years and she dump me and sleep with my best friend i wouldn't care who's fault is this. If my girlfriend dump me because they say i was cheating on my test ( i assuming thats happened ) I wouldn't go back to her because someone might tell her after spending a few years together that i am an undercover santa claus, but i won't give away gifts, i take kids lunch money, so she would dump me again.
I mean, after 4 years she could've doubt the whole cheating story , she should have know Chuck better, or at least as much to give him a chance of doubt

Yeah I hate when they do that. I hope that when they actually do get together she actually talks to him about these things.

She never did talk to him about her cover with Bryce.

I guess that's why the "talk" at the fountain Chuck started with "We both know what I think of you..." If they had a talk about her cover with Bryce then maybe he would've said something like "We both know what WE mean to each other..." But that would just make the torturing of the audience too short and we can't have the audience not tortured.

The show has it's flaws in the writing as we've already found. Case in point is that dance in "Break Up." Just how is heavy PDA a way to be inconspicuous? Every eye was on them when they were dancing. Wasn't that the opposite of what they were trying to do, sneak away to find the vault? Chuck dropping the bottle drew attention away from Sarah and Bryce.

I found something interesting, though, while rewatching "Break Up." Bryce told Chuck he'd always been looking out for him, could that have included Jill? Was Bryce protecting Chuck by taking Jill away from him? While that line of Bryce's was probably also intended for us, the audience, who'd built up a disdain for Chuck's college friend, he was sincere and perhaps that was an allusion to Jill and her upcoming arrival.

I thought that they explained that the heavy PDA was so that no one would think it was strange that they left the room to find some place in the house to continue with what they started in the ballroom.

Yeah that final line of Bryce was really loaded and great. I also thought that it was directed towards the Bryce-haters.

How was it at the end of 2.04? " That's awesome...and a little disturbing " idea

What I'm trying to figure out is how are they going to pass Chuck and Jill as back together. As far as everyone is concerned (Ellie, Awesome, Morgan, etc.), Chuck & Sarah's relationship is going strong. She's going to be Ellie's bridesmaid. Chuck & Jill getting back together must be for a mission or something happens in the next two episodes between Chuck & Sarah to have him pursue Jill.

Sidebar: Just realized that Chuck & Jill just doesn't roll of the tongue as nicely as Chuck & Sarah.

Back on topic: This reminds me of the whole Lou thing last season. Was anybody else aware, besides Morgan and Team Chuck, that Chuck dumped Sarah for Lou. Then he gets back together with Sarah then to know leave her for Jill, albeit temporarily. This doesn't make Chuck look good if he keeps on dumping Sarah for the next girl that comes along especially since he was not really with anybody for the last 5 years since Jill. From their perspective, Sarah had only one flaw and that was when "her ex" showed up and she didn't immediately tell him to get lost.

Also how they will explain them getting back together after the Jill arc?
No one will find out that Chuck and Jill dating? Don't think so
Anyone who will know about Chuck and Jill will wonder how the heck a girl like Sarah forgave him that fast
Or they wont play fake boyfriend/girlfriend anymore?
Too many questions, so little answers, guess just have to wait and see while hoping thge writers really know what they're doing.
The more i think the more i believe that the official synopsis is misleading just like the promos

I agree. I think this is all just a ploy to get us all stirred up for November sweeps. I have to say its working. Everyone seems to be focused of the whole Jill arc (2.06 - 2.09) and we haven't even gone through the "vs. Tom Sawyer" episode yet. I'm thinking this will be a nice break (focusing on Jeff and another mission) before we are put through the emotional ringer for the next month.

Before the season they promised us twice the romance, twice the action, but i hope we don't get twice the ..Huh?!..

So what do you guys think, whos gonna perform CPR on who while doing the training? Big Mike on Lester? Morgan on Casey? Chuck on the Marlin?

The joyless wonder/Buy More employee from last episode Bunny on Jeff or Awesome on Bunny. He asks for a volunteer and she immediately steps up.

I'm guessing Chuck on Casey because I remember them saying that at comic-con, Chuck and Casey share a kiss.

Well...the romantic tension from Jill-Chuck-Sarah is working in terms of boosting ratings because we're all chatting about it. I just wish it was Sarah getting the other love interest because in some way, that would be realistic, except that she's charged with protecting Chuck, so it would be hard to balance 24 hr surveillance with a new relationship. Guess that's why the writers had to have Chuck have the new love interest instead of Sarah...

We pretty much have our own CSI team trying to disect the arc. When I mean CSI...Chuck Scenes Investigation.

Chuck knows how Sarah feels about him or he wouldn't have had the "talk" with Sarah. I have a hard time understanding how the writers think that the viewers will buy Chuck kicking Sarah to the curb, start dating Jill, then after dumping Jill trying to get something going with Sarah again. It seems out of character for both Chuck and Sarah. I can't see Sarah having any type of relationship with Chuck unless it is mission related after that happens.

I would love to hear the producers explanation of the Jill arc when it is all said and done. Should be interesting to hear their take.

Their explanation is simple:

We are all chattering about it, so people will watch the episode and ratings will go up, just guaranteeing their jobs for another season.

That's the best reason for any story arc.

Whether its positive or negative feedback the producers are most definitel loving buzz surrounding the Jill arc right now.

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Captain Jack,

I agree of what you say, but I am starting to believe here that as Chuck fans we are going to have to accept the fact that we are not always going to get all our questions answered. The fact that Sarah and Director Graham had some history together and Graham is now presumed dead after the cipher blew up and Sarah has not shown any emotion over this seems odd. All direction is going thru General Beckman.
I think as Chuck fans we are left to assume or imply things.

I have watched the promo a couple of times for Chuck vs the Ex. After the first viewing I agreed with Bill@Work that this was a ploy to throw us off. When Chuck tells the dark haired woman in front of him, " no more lies" we think that that he is talking to Sarah with a dark haired wig on. Upon closer examination if you view the promo in slomo you will see the dark haired woman is wearing glasses (Jill?).

With this in mind, I believe it's all mission related but for Charah fans this will be a marathon for 3 episodes but is a necessary evil. Chuck has now has accepted the fact that he is closer to being a spy than a NerdHerder but is still trying to do the right thing.

cbart

Two points:

1) Chuck does not know how terrible Sarah's life growing up was. He only has hints and only knows about San Diego and nothing of the con man life she grew up in and how much she moved about.

2) Chuck and Ellie's home life does not sound like it was the greatest either and we know even less about that than we know about Sarah's. The fact that Chuck and Ellie had each other is probably the reason why they turned out as well as they did.

In Season 1 Sarah mentioned she had a sister. It would seem as of now that was a cover story item.

I does seem less likely that Sarah has a sister although it is possible. They have never mentioned what happened to her mother. It could be that her mother and father are divorced and her sister lives with her mother, although I don't see how her father could have gotten custody of Sarah, there are ways of coming up with a story that explains how it happened.

1) Well...some things can be inferred or speculated from the bits of data that Chuck overheard in that episode.
2) Chuck had more than just Ellie. He had Morgan too.

Well...my assumption is that Sarah suffered more then Chuck. It'll be up to the writers to prove me right or wrong, as with my other controversial theories...

How? Chuck can only infer what happened in San Diego and nothing else. He doesn't even know what Sarah's father is in jail for.

Ellie nurtured Chuck. Chuck nurtured Morgan. Interesting.

I think Sarah has sufferred more than Chuck in the past but the CIA saved her. However I think the crap Chuck is going through right now is more than Sarah ever had to deal with.

Lets see you are being used by the Government. They don't pay you anything for you service. They make you keep your crappy Buy More Job. They won't let you go back to school. So basically you are stuck in neutral and there is nothing you can do about. Also the woman you are in love with cannot and won't date you becuase you are the assett. Also you cannot date any real woman because your cover is boyfriend and girlfriend, and if you you do date anyone for real it compromises your cover. Also when they build your replacement, unbenknownst to you there a burn notice out on you. And you are to be eliminated.

Instead of saving him the CIA/NSA is a blessing and a curse. It is a blessing because he met Sarah and he got out of his Bryce/Stanford Jill rut of five years. However it is also a death sentence.

Chuck story is sad. He is stuck in neutral and he has no real future. I can see why he would want to date Jill. It is for his own self preservation. If he cannot experience love with Sarah he thinks he needs to move on.