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Awesome_Kid
Sadly. They kissed.
mellowmarsh
QUOTE (Awesome_Kid @ Oct 24 2008, 10:09 PM) *
Sadly. They kissed.



Wow this is not good! I missed the show and was excited to watched but now....I don't know if I would enjoy it!!
sharon228
i don't see what is so wrong with dani and capt. tidwell. it won't go anywhere, since he is her boss. i liked that scene, and i really like tidwell. he will bring a different prospective to the show. i also like his dry humor, and the fact that he has been married so many times, and to a stripper no less. i hope tidwell gets to be developed more, because i think he will be a great help to charlie.
StaxMan
Steam is still coming out of my ears. I have never been so angered, disgusted, and down right pissed off by a show in my entire life. WTF?, WTF?, (if you don't know, that stands for what the ****!!!!!). Why in God's name would Sarah Shahi's character kiss Donal Logue's? He and his character are just plain unlikable, not to mention the fact that he sports the worst haircut on TV.

Not only is it completely and totally unbelievable that Reese would kiss her commanding officer, it is absurd to have one of the most beautiful people on the planet kiss Donal Logue. Now what the hell are you gonna do? I mean, you can't ignore that it happened, but you can't force them into some kind of relationship and make me or anyone else buy it.

I am stunned by this major, major blunder. I LOVE this show, and I have become a huge fan of Shahi's (obviously) and also Damian Lewis. I feel like I'm gonna have a heart attack. I've just never seen anything this stupid, this nonsensical, this upsetting on any show. I am still raving mad and devastated.
g25
tidwell is hilarious!! just like he was on grounded for life! he is a very underated actor, he's awsome!!!
Alordo
I'm with you on the whole kissing thing, but I don't think you should have a heart attack over it. I was stunned. I guess we'll have to see where this takes us.
SlpngKat
I'm gonna put myself on the line and say this love-interest deal between Reese and Tidwell ends after 5 epis, tops. Unless they're both gonna quit the force (which I doubt), or move departments, it wouldn't work. And she's too hardcore a cop for that, for one, and, secondly, that'd bring way too much romantic angst into a show that isn't (and shouldn't) be centered around romantic angst.

Romance (if any) is the side dish. Main dish is a great cop dramedy.

Besides... even after that kissed, she looked a little "The hell did I just do?" Even Tidwell didn't seem so sure of what had just happened.
SlpngKat
Ain't gonna take us anywhere but a few awkward conversations, a few awkward attempts on his part to get her to do it again, and then back to being professional. I do think it's a long shot that she'd kiss him in the bullpen without the influence of alcohol. Even if she really likes him, I'm pretty sure she likes her career more. Kissing your boss where others can see you? That's career suicide, my friends.

And, frankly, Donal Logue is not an ugly man. I think the haircut they gave him here (probably to show how out of place he is with LA- he looks like he still belongs in NYC) is horrible and makes him look bad... but he is not an ugly man. And speaking as a woman, charisma does a lot for us. We want someone with personality (which Logue and his character, Tidwell, have in spades). You could look like Brad Pitt, but if you couldn't carry on a conversation, I wouldn't want anything to do with you, and excepting the shallowest of women, most others wouldn't either.
aflyingbuttress
QUOTE (StaxMan @ Oct 25 2008, 12:00 AM) *
Steam is still coming out of my ears. I have never been so angered, disgusted, and down right pissed off by a show in my entire life.



Wow, get a grip. You really need to calm down, it's just a tv show. I agree, Logue's hair on this show is absolutely disgusting. It borders on appalling really. But aside from that its not like hes an ugly man. I'd like to see him get a hair cut, stop greasing it up, and stop wearing pleated pants. If he did that he's look great!

Plus I really like his character. He seems like a real human being and I like that she is falling for a guy who has real quirks and idiosyncrasies and isn't perfect. In the real world people don't only kiss beautiful people. People kiss who they have chemistry with, which these two obviously do.

That being said, the thing that bothers me most about this union is that it is continuing the double standard that exists in TV land. I mean the one in which women have to be perfectly beautiful with a perfect 10 body to be even remotely desired, while the men who have oily hair, potbelly's, and dress horribly still get the girl. Lucky them!

At least StaxMan wants everyone to be equally beautiful!
gram1a
I think it's an interesting twist, got alot of attention! Didn't see it coming, wondering where it's going to go and can't wait for next weeks show. That's why this show is so good and I hope it survives cuz I can't take anymore reality shows. cool.gif
momikey
All I am going to say Is that Reese is way to hot for Tidwell. Please make it stop!!!
tomoni
I just have one question for NBC, the writers or whoever keeps ****ing up Dani Reese's storyline. What the hell are you people smoking??? I don't understand this, okay maybe I might get it if they had one ounce of chemistry but theirs absolutely nothing there, I mean nothing!!! That kiss was awkward, upsetting and unbelievably unrealistic concidering they kissed during the middle of the work day with people all over the office, granted their was a earth quake but still never would have happened. I would have bought it maybe if it were later at night but come on Dani should have decked him that would have made it more believable and enjoyable to watch. Look here's the deal I like Tidwell he has funny moments and he's a nice guy, kinda of a tool but nice. Is this the hot steamy couple you're hoping will boost Life's ratings? Good job with that one. Or wait maybe Dani will wake up after having terrible sex with this guy and think maybe being a junky wasn't as bad as she thought. Is that your plan? Can Dani get a love interest that's at least believable this guy is the best you could come up with. Really???
Thoughtless4U
Well, I wasn't as upset as I thought I would be. It was awkward, but I'm guessing that was the whole intention.. to let it be/look awkward. They did a really great job with that, and I'm sure they will not continue this ship, because it is just plain impossible on many levels. But it was well done and I didn't hate it.. at all. Bad-ass Crews made me forget it real soon anyway wink.gif
garanger
QUOTE (tomoni @ Oct 26 2008, 04:13 PM) *
I just have one question for NBC, the writers or whoever keeps ****ing up Dani Reese's storyline. What the hell are you people smoking??? I don't understand this, okay maybe I might get it if they had one ounce of chemistry but theirs absolutely nothing there, I mean nothing!!! That kiss was awkward, upsetting and unbelievably unrealistic concidering they kissed during the middle of the work day with people all over the office, granted their was a earth quake but still never would have happened. I would have bought it maybe if it were later at night but come on Dani should have decked him that would have made it more believable and enjoyable to watch. Look here's the deal I like Tidwell he has funny moments and he's a nice guy, kinda of a tool but nice. Is this the hot steamy couple you're hoping will boost Life's ratings? Good job with that one. Or wait maybe Dani will wake up after having terrible sex with this guy and think maybe being a junky wasn't as bad as she thought. Is that your plan? Can Dani get a love interest that's at least believable this guy is the best you could come up with. Really???


You took the words right out of my mouth with this, tomoni. Maybe if "NBC, the writers or whoever keeps ****ing up Dani Reese's storyline" WERE smoking something we wouldn't have been subjected to their version of Beauty and the Beast!!

They need to give Dani a meatier, brainier, storyline. Sarah's a MUCH better actress than to always be running after Crews and drawing her gun while he eats fruit! Most of us know her depth as an actress, and they're wasting her talents as only a pin ball bumping between Crews, her father, and whoever-the-hell-else they want to spotlight at any given time. Sarah's Dani is much more than just the gorgeous "you don't look like a cop" detective who gets mauled and pawed by her
boss. She deserves more, and so do we.

Send the grease monkey out to find another stripper to succumb to his dry humor and oily charms.
vbarkley
QUOTE (garanger @ Oct 26 2008, 08:58 PM) *
. Maybe if "NBC, the writers or whoever keeps ****ing up Dani Reese's storyline" WERE smoking something we wouldn't have been subjected to their version of Beauty and the Beast!!

Send the grease monkey out to find another stripper to succumb to his dry humor and oily charms.
rolling.gif Nice monikers.

So how did this Oil Can manage to get married so many times????
PrISM
I think you guys are really missing the point. As much as I don't like the fact that she kissed him, it does make sense with her character. You have to remember that Dani has a flawed personality. Don't you remember her sleeping with random men (whom she didn't even care to know their names) in the first season? I think a lot of you are assuming there is some kind of romance behind the kiss and now these two are going to be an item. There isn't and they're not. It was Dani doing what she does.
rebajonez
honestly, i think "the kiss" with lt.greasy bear was just to fire us all up and i'm pretty sure the whole thing will flame out after several episodes (as the last person who posted astutely suggested, maybe five). this is just an excuse to give dani's character a dramatic turn, when it's over. maybe crews will help pick up the pieces?
SlpngKat
Reese's pieces... hehehe.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

It'd be kinda fun to see if a romance happened how Crews would react to it. I mean, he may not go all crazy-jealous, but I bet it'll be amusing.

And another thing- why fume? As a general rule with TV, the relationships that are the longest lasting ones, they begin to form early and take a looooooooooooooong time to develop. Tidwell was introduced in the second season, "got the girl" (kinda) in the sixth episode, and will probably go back to being just their boss in no time at all.

So why fume? Just be happy this isn't an actual, gonna-last-forever kind of pairing.
vbarkley
QUOTE (PrISM @ Oct 27 2008, 08:20 AM) *
Don't you remember her sleeping with random men (whom she didn't even care to know their names) in the first season? I think a lot of you are assuming there is some kind of romance behind the kiss and now these two are going to be an item. There isn't and they're not. It was Dani doing what she does.

But therein lies the difference - she didn't know their names, and oh, they were hot! tongue.gif

Oil Can = Not Hot
garanger
"So how did this Oil Can manage to get married so many times????" >>> PITY, Money, size, False Imprisonment???


"Oil Can = Not Hot" >>>> No thermometer would get near him!!

I can just see the oily crabs jumping off him every time I look at him, and I don't look unless I have to!!

When Dani comes to her senses, hopefully, 5 seconds after "it" happened, she oughtta file a sexual discrimination charge with Internal Affairs!
chomppig
The only thing worse then a storyline that you can tell whats going to happen is a bad storyline that you can tell whats going to happen. They've been working up to this for a while and I've just been shaking my head the whole time. Donal Logue is a funny actor and I like him, but he does not fit this show at all. He was brought in to add a bit of humor which, IMO was very unecessary. I thought the humor was just fine. Even worse, they seemed to have abandoned Dani's subplots about her substance abuse to focus more on her and him. It makes her character a lot less interesting.
chrisnh
God, that was A-W-F-U-L to watch, and I pretty much turned away during most of it. This is not what viewers wanted to see, and there was no plausible reason whatsoever for that kiss to occur: There was no reciprocation of chemistry from her to him; you saw no reason why a manager and a subordinate would do that in the office with everyone else around. Plus, viewers don't want some oily guy (who, oh, by the way, is new this season) to kiss her. This doesn't work on so many levels, I'm sure I just touched on a few.

I love this show, but that kiss was jump-the-shark material, right there.

True story.
zzetta13
Dang! I almost missed this! A whole thread devoted to that 3 seconds of “Dark Age” time between Reese and Tidwell. I do agree with most of the banter here that it was unexpected, uncalled for and out of place. I think it caught every viewer by surprise and it was the one time that I was glad to be watching an episode of LIFE alone.

As they stood in the doorway, each looking at the other I got a queasy feeling the impossible was about to happen.

“GOSH NO!!” I shouted “ THEY AIN’T GONNA……..OMG!!” Yepper I was glad that there was no one around to hear me. I was thinking, you can’t mix peanut butter and banana pudding…….there are some things that just don’t go together, not even to try once!!

Don’t get me wrong, I do like Captain Tidwell. The guy has been right about several things on the show but I ready don’t see a kiss like that happening to any shipper team-up. A confused smacker, while standing in an open doorway, right in the middle of a tremor? Don’t think so!!

Well, what’s done is done. I’m not as let down as some of the fans that have posted here but I did carry a knot around in the stomach about that kiss for a few days. Now I’m wondering if Sarah Shahi will be appearing on the next episode of “ Dirty Jobs”? she’s shown she has the toughness for it.

Z
vbarkley
QUOTE (zzetta13 @ Oct 31 2008, 03:43 PM) *
“GOSH NO!!” I shouted “ THEY AIN’T GONNA……..OMG!!” Yepper I was glad that there was no one around to hear me.

I think I heard you. tongue.gif

Yeah, it was the Ick seen 'round the world. 29_3_13.gif
zzetta13
QUOTE (vbarkley @ Nov 1 2008, 07:30 PM) *
I think I heard you. tongue.gif

Yeah, it was the Ick seen 'round the world. 29_3_13.gif


V.......lol biggrin.gif

Z
D313
The scene where those two kissed really **** off a lot of viewers, if you go on Google, you can find lots of negative comments... Writers, are you really cannot come up with a better love interest for our lovely Dani Reese ?? I am really paranous to watch further, don't want to find out these two hook up and having love scenes mad.gif :-(
sharon228
sorry, i couldn't disagree more. i though it was funny. i doubt that anything will happen, since he is her boss. i just think it was a great scene. i've talked to a lot of people who liked the scene as well.
Blackfel
QUOTE (sharon123 @ Nov 2 2008, 08:54 PM) *
sorry, i couldn't disagree more. i though it was funny. i doubt that anything will happen, since he is her boss. i just think it was a great scene. i've talked to a lot of people who liked the scene as well.


I agree with Sharon. The scene was great, and I for one am very much looking forward to seeing where the relationship goes.

Monic
I don't like the writers pushing this story line on us. It doesn't make sense for the character. If only they were framing it as Dani backsliding but no.... They're framing it as something 'romantic'. Well, I don't find a greasy, womanizing jerk a romantic. I don't like that the only story line they can think of for Dani is limited to her romantic life. She has a lot of issues, a LOT of complicated relationships with her father, with Davis, with Charlie. She's interesting in her own right without having us push this manufactured 'romance'.

She deserves better. A lot better.
mellowmarsh
QUOTE (Monic @ Nov 3 2008, 03:59 AM) *
I don't like the writers pushing this story line on us. It doesn't make sense for the character. If only they were framing it as Dani backsliding but no.... They're framing it as something 'romantic'. Well, I don't find a greasy, womanizing jerk a romantic. I don't like that the only story line they can think of for Dani is limited to her romantic life. She has a lot of issues, a LOT of complicated relationships with her father, with Davis, with Charlie. She's interesting in her own right without having us push this manufactured 'romance'.

She deserves better. A lot better.


I agree!!! IF anything I think that Reesse should get a story line which explores all of the issues she has with her father and her substance abuse... etc.
The whole Tidwell thing is nonsensical and pointless. I see absolutely no reason for it!!
Please writers stop this mess now!!
mellowmarsh
QUOTE (chomppig @ Oct 30 2008, 04:27 PM) *
The only thing worse then a storyline that you can tell whats going to happen is a bad storyline that you can tell whats going to happen. They've been working up to this for a while and I've just been shaking my head the whole time. Donal Logue is a funny actor and I like him, but he does not fit this show at all. He was brought in to add a bit of humor which, IMO was very unecessary. I thought the humor was just fine. Even worse, they seemed to have abandoned Dani's subplots about her substance abuse to focus more on her and him. It makes her character a lot less interesting.


ITA I saw this coming a mile away but I never thought that they would do this!!!!! The kiss was nausiating to say the least. I watched the eppy online so I had the luxury of just skipping what I knew was forth coming but for some reason I couldn't loook away. I had to comfirm with my own two eyes that the travesty had actually occured. It's like when you're drivning down the high way and theres a really bad wreck. You want to look away but you just can't!!!

Don't get me wrong I don't absolutely hate Tidwell or the actor who potrays him. I simply don't believe that he fits in well with the show. Most say that he provides humor for the show, but last season was very humorus without him. In any case all he ever talks about is his stripper wives!! How is that funny???
last season the writers had enough room to explore both Dani's and Chralie's characters but now with Tidwell around yapping about how many women he wedded and bedded, it is near impossible to have a meaningful eppy which explores either Dani or Charlies issues.!!!!!

Question: Is it mean for me to hope that Tidwell dies by the end of his season????
garanger
QUOTE (mellowmarsh @ Nov 3 2008, 02:01 PM) *
ITA I saw this coming a mile away but I never thought that they would do this!!!!! The kiss was nausiating to say the least. I watched the eppy online so I had the luxury of just skipping what I knew was forth coming but for some reason I couldn't loook away. I had to comfirm with my own two eyes that the travesty had actually occured. It's like when you're drivning down the high way and theres a really bad wreck. You want to look away but you just can't!!!

Don't get me wrong I don't absolutely hate Tidwell or the actor who potrays him. I simply don't believe that he fits in well with the show. Most say that he provides humor for the show, but last season was very humorus without him. In any case all he ever talks about is his stripper wives!! How is that funny???
last season the writers had enough room to explore both Dani's and Chralie's characters but now with Tidwell around yapping about how many women he wedded and bedded, it is near impossible to have a meaningful eppy which explores either Dani or Charlies issues.!!!!!

Question: Is it mean for me to hope that Tidwell dies by the end of his season????


Why wait until "the end of this season"???????
garanger
QUOTE (mellowmarsh @ Nov 3 2008, 01:38 PM) *
I agree!!! IF anything I think that Reesse should get a story line which explores all of the issues she has with her father and her substance abuse... etc.
The whole Tidwell thing is nonsensical and pointless. I see absolutely no reason for it!!
Please writers stop this mess now!!



Count me in on making this mess stop now, too!!
Kaylinn57
Okay so I have to say that I was not really terribly surprised when Reese and Tidwell kissed. I saw it coming from when he started hitting on her at the neginning of the season. The writers were obviously going to do something with that. I just didn't expect it to be so soon.

My thoughts on Tidwell as a character: he as a character is not an unattractive man. His character is certainly seedier than would be hoped for, but I think that makes him an intereasting contrast to Dani's "by the book" type of attitude. If he's gonna stick around then it could be interesting to see him play off of Dani and Charlie more. It's only been six episodes, after all. You don't learn everything about a character in the first six episodes. I think the writers could do a lot with his character.

As for the kiss. I personally wasn't terribly offended by it. No it wasn't totally believable that it would happen in the bullpen in broad daylight. But let's ignore that for a second. I see no reason why, in an unguarded moment, Dani wouldn't kiss Tidwell. I can say from my own life experience that a woman can be attracted to a man who isn't the handsomest guy around. Yeah Tidwell's greasy and kinda dirty feeling, but a woman can still be attracted to a man like that. It happens all the time, so why not on tv?

Should the story line continue? I don't think so. It doesn't have the foundation to do so. As someone else already pointed out (sorry I don't know your name) all good, solid, likeable relationships on tv take forever to develope. The ones where there's a little flirting early on the a hasty kiss or night together almost always ends in disater inthe tv world. I would say that while you might not like the kiss, don't be terribly worried. It's not gonna last. They never do. All we have to do is wait out this rough patch with Tidwell then get back to the meat of Dani's story.

That's my two cents. Enjoy or not. It's up to you.

Kay
lucyn225
I can't say as I was terribley bothered by the kiss either. Maybe it was because having watched the DVD commentary from S1, I knew that Sarah Shahi was bugging to make Donal Logue's character a love interest for Dani. It could possibly be that I was just so relieved that it wasn't Charlie (he doesn't need any more eggs in that basket blink.gif ). I also don't find Logue to be a physically repuslive individual.

I think that Dani is probably in for a lot more frogs before she is handed any kind of prince. It just seems to be in her personality (the whole self-punishment thing).
D313
QUOTE (garanger @ Nov 3 2008, 10:24 PM) *
Count me in on making this mess stop now, too!!


To those who are interested, go to Photos - Season 1 - Dani Reese, under the first picture, there are some comments about " not liking the greasy head guy ", quite funny words...

Like any topics, there are those who agree, and those who don't... The matter is, we all support Life !!!
CinnamonGirl74
I'm down with the anti-Tidwell/Reese sentiments, as well. It goes against everything I loved about Reese from Season 1! She'd have never put up with any co-worker, especially one of her superiors, acting so unprofessionally. From a woman's perspective, it creeps me out that he keeps hitting on her when she's said "no" so many times. If I had had a boss who felt he could suddenly kiss me in front of the rest of the office, like Tidwell did in "Did You Feel That?", I'd have slugged him! It would have been one thing if the flirting had been consentual, but it never was. So, WTF? And, after tonight's ep, "Jackpot," he came across as almost obssessed. I've always wanted Reese and Crews to gain that subtle "Mulder and Scully"-ish attraction, throughout the upcoming eps/seasons. There's been so much wonderful fanfic dedicated to that outcome, and to the "Creese" relationship, that this whole Tidwell/Reese thing is like a slap in the face to all of those fans. I really hate it when writers so obviously do not pay attention to what the majority of their fans would like to see. sigh.gif
zzetta13
I’m seeing the same as a lot of unhappy fans of the show are. The Reese/Crews relationship from last season seems to have turned into a Rews……ha..ha…. and the Reese/Tidwell needs to be turned into a Ridwell.

Just some thoughts, Z
CompassRose
I think that I recall that Dani has had quite a few anonymous encounters at bars where she didn't care who she went home with. I think that makes her susceptible to the Lieutenant's advances. She just doesn't care about relationships.
mellowmarsh
QUOTE (Bood @ Nov 6 2008, 08:46 PM) *
I can't watch this show anymore.
Tidwell is awful, he ruins every scene he's in.
Now that it's on wed. - the recent events with Tidwell and Reese will cause Life to fall off my Tivo list. Thank god the writers haven't screwed up House yet. My wife watches Criminal Minds which is a terrible show but sadly it's better than Life now.
Way to screw up an awesome show.


Sucks that you're not watching any more but I totally see were you are coming from!!!I too am very near giving up on this show. It was great but the writters seem to think that it needs all this other frop and frap to improve it!!!

I also hope that they don't ruin House,but I'm not worried cause the writters on that show know a little thing called consistancy!!
KansasKittie
Does anybody know why they're styling Tidwell to be so greasy??? I've loved this actor in all his other roles - he's really a cute, cuddly, teddybearish kind of guy but here he really is just icky. Is there going to be a big reveal where he takes a shower and shaves? Maybe gets stuff into a tux for an undercover assignment or something??
SlpngKat
I'm guessing it's to make him more of an NYC stereotype. It makes him stand out from everyone who's "typically" LA.
vbarkley
Please, at least let him shampoo occasionally.

Maybe Dani can share some haircare tips. smile.gif
garanger
QUOTE (vbarkley @ Nov 7 2008, 05:06 PM) *
Please, at least let him shampoo occasionally.

Maybe Dani can share some haircare tips. smile.gif



I hope that will be the ONLY thing she shares with him!
lisalisaandcjam
I think the oily hair is hilarious, and disgusting. But it is supposed to be! Dani does have a personality flaw, so of course she is going to be attracted to that. They need to throw in someone for her to date, maybe in a season or so it could be Charlie..that would be hot. They are both gorgeous.
lisalisaandcjam
Does anyone know why the old LT. is now demoted (who Tidwell replaced?)? I must have missed that somehow.
SlpngKat
They never explained to us why she was demoted. I'm betting it'll come out later as having something to do with Jack. My best guess is that because she couldn't keep Reese and Crews from bonding, Jack poked around and had her demoted.

In reality, she (the actress) probably just needed/wanted time off and this was the easiest way to give that to her.
lucyn225
QUOTE (lisalisaandcjam @ Nov 13 2008, 12:54 PM) *
They need to throw in someone for her to date, maybe in a season or so it could be Charlie..that would be hot. They are both gorgeous.


Lord I hope not. Reese and Crews need to stay in a brother/sister relationship. IMHO anything above that would be a horrible kiss of death for the show. wacko.gif
SlpngKat
They're throwing in enough hints at a possible Crews/Reese relationship, but they're not committing to anything. They're leaving that option open if they need to go down that road. Given the popularity of making male-female partners into couples, I wouldn't be surprised if they did end up in a romantic relationship.

And yes, I know, just because its popular doesn't mean it can always be done well. Hopefully, if that's what happens with them (yes, I am a fan of the idea of Crews/Reese), they do it in a way that doesn't ruin the show.
garanger

I sooo hope they don't make them a couple. They have their own lives to live, and that would mean more storylines for the show.

It would be so cliche to have them get together, but that would be the kiss of death, IMO.
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