That is certainly true. There's even a line of "Biggest Loser" cookbooks out there. I'm still not watching the show, but that's just me.

What's sad here is that the people who you claim cannot make a decision or get that exec job are somewhere between 12-17 years of age, and many do not live in the US.

How much money has Ford paid for promoting it's vehicles in the KR series? If you have that data by numbers, can you tell us how much money was pulled in by negotiating sponsors for Biggest Loser? Your claims are unsubstantiated and merely an attempt to make yourself look good in front of a fan base that cares more about the show than any stats.

However, since you're claiming that NBC execs seem to be strong decision makers, perhaps you can explain why NBC continually stacks at the bottom of total viewers each week only besting the CW network?

Coming here to debate the validity of a show in front of the KR fan base only makes you look bad.

Looks like it. It's being promoted as such on the main KR site.

Fans and celebrities alike will descend upon Las Vegas for the Knight Rider Festival which runs March 20th-21st.

And Deanna Russo has been added to the confirmed guest list!

Official Press Release:

KNIGHT RIDER FESTIVAL - March 20-21, 2009 - Fremont Street, Las Vegas, NV

For Immediate Release: KNIGHT RIDER FESTIVAL pays homage to the revolutionary car of the future "KITT", the original TV series & New 2008 NBC Show that began in Fall 2008.

The event will have attendees and fans from North & South America, Japan and Europe. Highlights include a raft of celebrity appearances, LV Strip 'Cruise' with KITT, TV Cars display, Cars of the Future Car Show, Entertainment, Drawings, Giveaway and Promotions, Stunt Show, and a special recognition of David Hasselhoff, Glen A. Larson, George Barris, Justin Bruening and other dignitaries.

KITT Car owners and fans will take part in raising money for the Children's Miracle Network.

International media will be present to observe this historical event produced by Paul Casey Productions, Las Vegas, Nevada.

Find out more about the festival at knightriderfestival.com

Some good news for Dutch TV-viewers! Starting tomorrow (1 March) at 20:30 CET the first episode will air on Dutch TV-station RTL7. RTL7 will air a new episode, and therefore the complete season one, every sunday at 20:30. RTL7 started last week running a lot of promo's for the show, so probably a decent audience will be attracted.

Finally someone else gets "it" as far as how bad the situation is. For that I am happy.

Now to the heart of the matter : I never said NBC was brilliant. Far from it. I was the first here to point out how this KR was doomed to fail with the approach they were taking. I was the first to point out the emperor had no clothes. For boneheaded decisions like that NBC stays firmly entrenched in nearly-last place.

Now, having said that, I am sure there is a "bunker" mentality at NBC which is causing these decisions. Nobody will do anything truly innovative for fear of losing their jobs. Which is why we got the pseudo-Transgenderformers version of KR. Someone, somewhere at NBC took a look at the boatload of money Transformers made and thought, to our eternal lament, they could do it too.

Think of it as the executive version of a redneck yelling "Hey, fellers! Watch this!", with similar results.

So, now that they are in the thick of the war, being bombarded from all sides, the question will invariably turn to what to do. Also without fail those in the heat of the battle will decide to "bunker" up, that is try to weather the siege. I'm sad to say, a chimpanzee would make better decisions at this point, but now people will start looking at the data and see how The Biggest Loser is making a boatload more money than KR. Thinking they see light at the end of the tunnel which isn't an on-coming train, they drop KR and order up two more seasons of TBL. They may be stupid, but they aren't crazy.

A funny little thing will happen on the way to the forum, however. I predict before season two is up people will have their fill of TBL and the ratings will start dropping to a worse degree than they did for KR. Having no innovation and no back-up plan NBC will lurch from minor success to minor success until they inevitably go belly-up.

NBC isn't the first company to do this, and they won't be the last.

NBC knew what it would take to get eyeballs watching KR and decided to take a 180 degree turn. That KR lasted so long is a testament to the stubbornness people can display when they know they are wrong. What will make KR work has never changed - You need a Michael, a Devon, a Bonnie, and most important of all, you need a smart-assed car. FLAG is the chassis, but Michael, Devon, Bonnie and KITT power the whole mess down the road. This simple fact will never change.

NBC knew this was the formula for success but fear, greed, and a 100 megaton injection of stupidity herded the powers that be like sheeple into making a bad decision. No, the people calling the shots at NBC are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, but again - they aren't crazy either. They have more business smarts than most sheeple roaming free on the streets, but they have no more courage to do the right thing than most sheeple.

Oh, and as far as the whole "looking bad" thing - as if I care. You can call me fat, dumb, ugly or any manner of name you care to think up - but you can never call me wrong. And that is more than 99.99% of people here can say, so I am happy with that.

Like I said in another post 1macgeek think 5 dollar footlong. Biggest loser is sponsered by subway, brita and couple of other small companies. Its people like you who cant think "originality" who are called narrow minded. Some people actually want to see something new and different. The show is only sponsered by ford and nbc. NBC isn't doing a lot of advertising for it because probably they have think the show would have its own buildup by the name itself. Sure its safer to go with a series that has had success but that is why nbc is almost at the bottom because it is afraid of taking risks and so are you.

Ya Think?

NCIS rules CBS

That statement alone is so ridiculously laughable I wonder if you ever get away from the computer. You assume too much and the biggest wrong you make is that you think you're always right. No worries, with time, you'll learn.

Back to the subject matter - go Knight Rider!

Top! Nu hopen dat ze het niet gaan verknallen.

For Armandox Tell the people the frist Few are not great but the last ones after Karr it pick up great it like the 1980s verson. But dont give up on KR.

If 1macgeek think himself this low mybe he should join the next show of biggest loser. But the fact is reality tv getting old and they should make a station for reality tv setup by the Broad casting stations and let TV be tv.

I would get it if the die cast car could light up like the real kitt from the show then I would pay that much for the dvd set. I would also love to buy a remote controlled car version of kit3 if that ever came out.

I have to laugh. On one hand I am accused of never being away from the computer, and on the other people remark about my lengthy absences from the discussion. I guess I can lay claim to another trait, that being consistency.

Yes, I do always think I am right because I do think. Too many people running around loose in society never think, they run on emotion. I apply critical thinking skills to think things through, and use judgment where the data is lacking. Nobody to be taken seriously around here can argue with a straight face there is a business case to be made for a second season of KR. And if NBC could have made one we certainly would have heard it by now.

But no matter how much proof I bring forward, it just isn't enough for people to admit - no matter personally how much you may have liked KR - that KR just stunk up the joint for a majority of the season. It should be very easy here and now to prove there won't be a second season. Get ahold of Justin Bruening's agent and see what he is doing *right now*. If he is looking for work for ol' Justin then there we go.

Unlike a lot of people I don't have a problem admitting I am wrong when the proof is there. The problem is just as I mentioned before - people become the most stubborn when they are proven wrong. Not me. I have no problem folding and going home. The problem around here is no matter how much evidence I bring to the table that KR sucked, people fought to prove me wrong. They just wouldn't give up and face the reality. Instead, they wanted to attack me for pointing out the obvious.

Well, here we are. The very last show of KR on TV for at least two more decades, if current conditions are any indication. There is no ballyhoo from NBC about the season finale, there is no notice from the press, there is nary a peep anywhere in the media. The last word from NBC was KR may or not be back and since that time KR ratings tanked from their already abysmal lows.

And not one scrap of evidence shows I am wrong about any of this.

Hate me if you must, but I really just wish someone would post something factual to refute anything I have said. Post a memo from NBC. Scan a letter from Bruening's agent and post it. The sad fact is that if I had been wrong in any of it, NBC would have either banned me or refuted me on these boards. They haven't and won't.

KR is dead - long live Knight Rider.

Promise?

http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider/

The official NBC KR site proclaims tonight's episode is the "Season Finale."

Note it doesn't say "Series Finale."

Yet again, season one of KR is:
Still.
Not.
Cancelled.

I would so totally buy that. I love watching this show with my wife every Wednsday, she never watched the original but she is totally hooked now, constantly asking me for news on the show, and has been sulking all week that this is the season finale. Anytime i mention it might be the series finale she throws a hissy fit and asks why they would cancel such a great show. I'd like them to include the unaired episodes, but I'm also hoping those episodes are going to be used in Season 2.

Anyways, I got off topic, I would buy at least one special edition box set like you described.

Yes mac, you're not only wrong, you're foolish. Stop wasting our time with your "please love me" e-drama posts.

>>"yes you mistyped the url, its actually www.knightindustries.org"<<

The website www.knightindustries.org is about the original KITT.

1macgeek you should know by now that fans on here don't see you as a fan of the show at all since you keep hoping for the show to die. Things like emotion can override facts for example some movies that critics gave two thumbs down did really good in the movie theaters despite movie critics opionons. Are you really gonna stop posting on here cause that would be nice. It guys like you that ruins the concept of fun for people.

On the front page, half way down under the Watchmen and NBC Direct adds, they advertise the new website.

This could be a good sign that they actually are advertising it.

So what? Many cancelled series never got to have a "finale" episode. Many series just vanished without a word. Knight Rider is one of those.



Post. Some. Proof.

Just because you wish it to be doesn't make it reality. Look, if there was a season two there would have been a cliff-hanger at the end. There wasn't. If there was a season two there would have been some mention to tune in this fall. There wasn't.

All the evidence points to the fact KR is dead. There is no more. It has assumed room temperature. It is the great non-show. It is bereft of life. I wish this were not so, but it is. If every episode were to have been of the same quality as the last NBC would have had a runaway hit on its hands, but that isn't what happened.

KR is dead. Long live Knight Rider.

So what? Many second season series never got to have a "cliffhanger-end" episode or mention to tune back in next season going out the first season. Many series just returned without a word. Knight Rider might just be one of those.

Just because you wish it to be doesn't make it reality.

All the evidence points to the fact no one knows yet what the future of KNIGHT RIDER is. The answers are up in the air. Votes haven't been cast yet. You only proof you are full of hot air and little else. If the show does get cancelled then so be it. But as of right now, nothing official is indicating anything of that just yet. So for the moment just hold your steel trap and go play with your Hasselhof dolls and leave us people who do enjoy the show in peace.

On "Page 2" now.
http://www.nbc.com/archive/p/2/s/1

As I said before, I really hope it gets a second season.

Without a doubt! I already have the closest 1/18 scale to kitt i could find. a rare edition gt500kr black with the ghost black pinstriping..... but just isnt the same without the hoodlights! what id really like to see is a diecast 1/18th in attack mode for starters, even the rest of his morphs! the entire collection! id pay well more for all of that! Hey Maisto, American Graffiti, Matchbox and all the others.... hope your reading this!!!!

Looks like it will be a GREAT page! also it says the site is under construction. I'm taking that as a good sign!

http://www.knightindustriesresearch.com/

There are no unaired episodes to include ... but there may be some as-of-yet-unfilmed scripts.

One would wonder why they would bother changing the website in order to reflect F.L.A.G. if the show was not continuing. Hope this is a good sign!!!

dang raymond I thought you weren't gonna attack 1macgeek. You tried telling me to stop attacking him. But you are right he is full of hot air. 1macgeek you owe all of us an apology for calling us blind and idiots just because we cant agree with you. We respected your opinons at first but know we dont respect you at all as a person.

That wasn't an attack. Just stating that his arguments for one side of the story also applies to the flip side of it.

Ya I can name a few 1macgeek. When the writers strike happen no show had a Season Finale and alot of good shows where dropped. But with out the Writers we have to watch Lame Reality TV.

For you saying this



It more like We Love your lengthy absences from the Discusstion and we are annoyed when you are on the forums. All you want to do is Flame the forums.

I bought the whole season of Knight Rider on I-Tunes at the end of last year, before all the episodes aired obviously. The last episode that was available on my Itunes browser was Knight to King's Pawn. I'm hoping I will be able to get the rest of the episodes...but I don't know how. Anyone have this problem?

I didn't know KR was on iTunes o.o But I'll be buying the Season One box when it comes out, hopefully with the Pilot Episode and maybe a DieCast Kitt x3

That sucks that you purchased what you thought was the whole season, but are missing the last 5 episodes! I would try to contact the iTunes Store support, explain your situation and ask them if there's any chance you could get the remaining episodes at no cost (I doubt it, but it doesn't hurt to ask). Here's a link to the support page: http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/store/
I would probably go to "Purchase Questions" in the Billing Support area.

Before you do that though, in the iTunes program on your PC, click on "Store" in the menu bar at the top of the screen, then click on "Check for Available Downloads", just to make sure that the missing episodes haven't already been added to your account by iTunes after your initial purchase.

I've only purchased a single KR episode, Knight of the Iguana, before NBC and Hulu put that one back online again.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090318/film_nm/us_prinze
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – Freddie Prinze Jr. will star on ABC's comedy pilot "No Heroics," which revolves around four B-list superheroes living among us.

Three of the central characters will be played by Eliza Coupe, Arielle Kebbel and Canadian actor Paul Campbell ("Battlestar Galactica"), who plays the leader of the group, Pete, aka Chillout, a Canadian-born superhero who can freeze small objects.

Prinze will play his nemesis and tormentor, Bradley, aka Ultimatum, the personification of everything Pete despises and secretly wishes he could be. An A-list superhero, Bradley is a handsome, cocky and egotistical alpha male who has all the women and fame and money a guy could want.

With Prinze signing on for the "No Heroics" gig, both he and his wife (and "Scooby-Doo" co-star) Sarah Michelle Gellar are on comedy pilot duty. She headlines HBO's "The Wonderful Maladys."

For Prinze, "Heroics" marks a return to ABC, where he toplined the short-lived 2005 sitcom "Freddie."

hmm...perhaps that's a sure sign that KR is cancelled, then? I don't think Paul could do both shows at the same time. Or maybe it'd be like what he did between seasons of BSG where he tried another sitcom and it didn't pan out but was able to continue with BSG, anyway. I'd be sad if Billy wasn't in KR, anymore, though. He's my fav character! Paul's been saying for a while now that he'd really enjoy being in a sitcom. He prefers comedy and he loves playing to an audience. As much as I'd hate to see Billy disappear, I have to say that I'd be happy for Paul if the new show works out for him.

No that isn't a sign of anything. Most actors have other (acting) jobs besides their high profiled ones, as the weeks that they are hired doesn't always cover enough costs to go around all year. Most turn to the stage or workshops to earn their keep. But when they aren't shooting anything, they usually still need work to pay the bills.

That would be awesome if he did KR and the new show. I'm obviously a huge Paul fan (if you couldn't tell by my av and sig!). Seeing him in two different shows would be great!

Here's a small piece from another article (March 19) that came out about Paul's new show, "No Heroics."

"Campbell will be playing leader of the misfits "Pete aka Chillout, a Canadian-born superhero who can freeze small objects." And yes, NBC hasn't officially cancelled Knight Rider yet, but this casting news makes it seem like a certainty."

Here's the rest of the article:

http://tv.ign.com/articles/964/964247p1.html

I would like to update this.

It seems, that they are either

A. Updating the Site
or
B. Its not gonna happen

Reason i say this is because when you go to the Knightindustriesresearch.com
enter the site, you can click a tab at the top to view the information.
Now when you enter the site and click a tab, you are taken back to the enter page.

So i don't really know whats going on. :-\

According to a recent interview with Gary Scott Thompson, the KR actors had not been released from their contracts, so it's difficult to imagine Paul Campbell being able to sign with a new show, on another network, without either being let out of his Universal contract, which would suggest that KR is not coming back.

I hope Universal instead is allowing the actors to simply do other work as well, and will bring back KR this fall. KR is going to premier on SciFi-UK, showing season 1. SciFi (including UK) is a universal network, so it is certainly possible that they may air KR on other universal networks. But NBC would be making a HUGE mistake if they don't renew KR for the fall lineup.

There was actually some discussion on this on the KRO forum that I read through last night. Apparently it's not too uncommon for actors to try new pilots once in a while. It's just the pilot so if the new show doesn't take off, it wouldn't matter, anyway. If it goes well, and KR is canceled, then Paul was smart in lining up another gig for himself right away. If KR doesn't end up getting canceled, his contract is to KR first, so the other show would have to either recast his role or the networks may be able to negotiate a way to share him. Either that or Paul finds some way to get out of his KR contract and we lose Billy as a character (sadness), but he'd have a leading role on another show, which could be good for him if the show gets good ratings. If that's the case, I just hope it doesn't end up like BSG where he lost out on a five-year contract and his new show didn't pan out. It should have, though - "Nobody's Watching" was really funny.

search'd for a simulair topic but didnt find it so here I go...

Hey!! I just wondering, is there going to be a DVD with the first season and when?
I am for sure going to get it if its get out!

peace!!

There was a news item a while back that the dvd release of the Knight Rider TV-movie was cancelled because it was to be included on the season 1 box. So I'd say the answer is yes.

Nice... looking forward to that =)

hey i'am a huge fan of knight rider and i love your'e podcast and i lookforward to future episodes with you and knight rider

I got this idea from knightrideronline's message boards.. here we can talk about the festival, post some pictures, and what not.

I can't wait for season 2,and for a toy or replica of
kitt! as well as the DVD for season one!

I've seen several different diecast Shelby GT500KRs [at Wal-Mart] but all have been either blue, white or red. Still hoping to find a black with black stripes.