I only know three - Weekend At Bernies, Godfather II and Princess Bride. Was that all?

To who ever didn't the Princess Bride reference it was in the Buymore when they (esp. Morgan and Lester) are trying to figure out what Emmett wants and they go through the whole "but he knows that I know that he knows I know..." which is like the scene with the cups and the poison with Vizzini and Westley

This episode was entertaining as always. My two favorite parts in it were when Jeff said that he wanted to see Lester in his homeland, and of course Casey at Jill's parents house and how obviously uncomfortable he was when he was downstairs. Next episode looks awesome and it should be another great one.

I actually enjoyed this episode because even though it had alot of "cheap filler" it was rife with Character developement. It set us up for the jam packed next couple of episodes, tied up a couple loose ends, opened up a few doors and provided the characters enough room to be believable with the the possible situations that they are probably going to be in epis #21 & #22.

Just a note, I think Chuck's second "kill" was so much cooler than his first and of course now we know Chuck's actaully grown quite a large pair and he has finally broken down that Great Wall of Sarah.

In all fairness he was telling her that he does trust her. It's Chuck whose feelings should be hurt; Sarah was going to let him walk into that trap had he not made that speech!
Not to mention the other bombs she's thrown his way in the past [ex. at the end of vs. the Suburbs].
But I still love 'em both and am rooting for them! Lol.



What was wrong? He told her that he trusts her and it basically saved his life.

Ha! I was thinking Germany, but they used similar tactics so same[ish] thing lol.

What? They kissed? They were never even alone this episode lol. Did I just black out?!

That was fantastic.
I salute you!

We're not worthy!!!

Then we'll hang out and watch the show together LOL

First 45 minutes were good, last 15 minutes were awesome. I have to say that I stayed away from the boards alot more leading up to this episode than normal and I think that made me enjoy it much more than the last 5-6 episodes even though it was fairly slow for most of it. My plan is to again stay away from too much speculation and any spoiler sites for the final two episodes and just sit back and enjoy them and any surprises/twists/shockers that come along. I will however be patiently awaiting the new post from Azizalsaqr titled "Chuck Season 3", there is absolutely nothing else that I care about on TV right now than the renewal of Chuck.

Also, I did read somewhere that the person in charge of CW entertainment is a huge Chuck fan, I'm hoping Chuck will be around whether or not NBC renews it. NBC might very well be kicking themselves in the behind if they dont renew Chuck.

For the rest of us Charah fans, here is a quote from Chris Fedak off the eonline site.

But don't count out our favorite superagent couple just yet, because we have exclusive scoop on the future of Chuck (including on Monday's Jill-centric "Chuck Versus the First Kill") from show runner Chris Fedak, and it looks like things might be a'changin'! Whee!

Yes, we do have a glimmer of hope for those of you holding out for that Chuck and Sarah lovin'. When we begged and pleaded with Chris to let us know if Sarah will ever tell Chuck how she feel, he simply stated, "I would say that by the end of the season, Sarah will get her chance." Yay!

Dude, I know this is off topic, but his name is actually Josh Gomez, not Ramirez.

Atta girl Sarah, and about damn time.

That about sums up this epp for me.

Random thought, I would like to see Bryce and Jill as a team in season three. For one, it means a season three. Two, remove the Ex issue from both Chuck and Sarah. Three, Rewards Chuck for being a good guy, having Jill leave the dark side.

Fro those asking where we watch the episodes from. I actually watch them on NBC.com. Go to shows, chuck, watch full episode. Most of season two is there for your reviewing pleasure. I would also like to think NBC keeps track of such things so as to measure a shows wordiness to continue.

After watching again, one of my favorite scenes is when Sarah and Casey go to the house to help Chuck, the scene after Jill's dad opens the door is hilarious with Casey. The whole beauty and the beast thing and the fake punching, Im sure Casey would love to lay the guy out. Also, when Chuck is running upstairs from Bernie and says "I dont know if he wants to kill me or eat me" . Very funny.

Rewatched the episode and it reaffirms my original view that this one was a definite notch below the previous 3 or 4. Like Broken Heart this one breaks away from the far more interesting PapaB/Intersect storyline.

Disappointed that they did not take advantage of pairing up of Jill and Sarah to explore some emotional beats. Reducing the BuyMore storyline would have given the main storyline some much needed breathing room.

Too much time on the trust issue and none on matters of the heart. Of course, the end scenes really saved the whole experience. The blocking of the BuyMore scene between Chuck and Sarah was a nice callback to the Santa Claus episode.

Missed opportunity to not include Roark and/or PapaB in a scene to keep the momentum of the major arc going.

I have never written a message board in my life but maybe extra bodies will help towards a renewal. Did anyone else notice that during all the shooting at fulcrum Chuck asked Casey about Sarah. When he found out I wondered if he would go to help her or go after his father. There seemed to be no hesitation to go after his father.

I don't think the whole "Jill family" scene was filler. The last episode is called The Ring. Chuck gave Jill a ring. Chuck had history with the family. What if at the end of the season Sarah sees Jill and Chuck and the ring (Jill returning it, Sarah thinking something else) and that is what gives Sarah her chance to speak up about her feelings? Did you see Sarah's face in the van when Jill's dad talked about how Chuck used to look at Jill? I think this episode will be much better for some at the end of the season.

I still think the General is bad. I had though Sarah was on to her. Perhaps it is Casey. That may be why he didn't speak up at the end. He didn't want to tip his hand. I guess the next episode will tell. I don't recall the preview actually showing the General in it. Was she in there?

The guy who plays Bernie always creeps me out. Everytime I see him in a movie or television show all I can think about is Borat. Watching him chase Jill and Chuck up the stairs reminded me too much of him chasing Borat around the hotel naked. That is one scene from a movie I wish I could delete from my brain.

If we are lucky enough to get renewal, I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Jill or Bryce but it wont be in any romantic way. I'm really hoping the whole Jill/Chuck/Sarah/Bryce thing is done and that the last 2 episodes this season will reinforce that.

First of all.......BEST! EPISODE! EVER! Any episode that works in even 20 seconds of Brahm's Requiem has to be great, but it got even better from there.

Second, let's hope (this is a repeat request, please realize) that Chuck and Sarah, after hitting Vegas to get married, follow Fulcrum and Chuck's father (Orion) North by Northeast to a show down on Mount Rushmore, with Sarah leading the way as Chuck is saying No! Don't you know anything? Never run towards the faces!

This episode of course will feature the extraspecial guest star Martin Landau.


Finally, to those at NBC, I hope you don't renew it, so ABC can buy it and run it before LOST. One of the best shows on TV and all you can come up with is Subway promotion?

Did anyone else find it weird how during the Fulcrum video they contrasted happy pictures (Children raising their hand) with graphic pictures (a bloody hand)?

Kudos to the writers for allowing Chuck to remain Chuck even through his "first kill"!
I may be in the minority here--but I personally loved the Morgan--it's true to his character--it's goofy and funny and apparently quite effective...lol
I felt sorry for Morgan---NEVER TRUST A SNAKE!!! (Chuck are you listening?) Jill will be back to bite him the butt somehow some way...

I can't believe I did that, and I'm Hispanic! Sorry about that, and thanks for the correction. I was posting in a hurry...=)

sorry, i only read a couple of the previous pages & it seems like the consensus is that during the end scene, chuck did believe sarah & said how much he trusted her, etc...last night when i watched it, i thought that maybe he KNEW she was lying to him, bc he had flashed on the black rock location (assumed that's where he was headed w/ his keys - the "computer emergency"), and that's why he said what he did - sort of playing her play?

I thought he was concerned about what Jill said about not being able to trust anybody. Fulcrum, CIA, NSA would all play him and do what they think is best. No difference between them. So I think Chuck didn't trust Sarah at that moment but when she lied to him about them having his dad, he let out a sigh of relief that Jill was wrong and that he could trust Sarah.

I haven't read much of the previous pages yet either but one thing bothers me about the last scene. Sarah obviously lied to Chuck about the CIA having his father already but was thrown off when Chuck told her he trusted her. Didn't she already know that from earlier in the episode when Chuck was freaking out about the CIA and NSA and not being able to trust them and then she asked if he trusted her, which he did. So I'm bothered by the fact that either she didn't take his earlier statement about trusting her seriously and had the realization later on; or that she didn't decide until that moment that she would risk her career for him. But that last one throws me off too because there were instances throughout the season where she disobeyed orders for him. Oh well, overall I liked the episode and how Jill redeemed herself. Too bad there wasn't a catfight between her and Sarah.

I'm sure many people have already posted this, but I just have to say how much I loved that Chuck got not one, but TWO kills in this episode, and that they were completely accidental and both tied to the Morgan (which is a hysterical move - I laughed so hard). I was extremely, extremely pleased by this episode. When Casey and Sarah showed up at the engagement party and Jill's dad said, "It's beauty and the beast," the look on Adam Baldwin's face had me rolling on the floor. You could just see how badly Casey wanted to hit the dude. And then when they went running upstairs Sarah's little, "It was a long car ride," was just priceless, too. So much was so good in this episode, can't wait to watch it again on my lunch break. While I still don't fully trust Jill, I do think now it may be genuinely possible that she got caught up in Fulcrum when she was too young to know any better, brought in by someone she really trusted and didn't think would lead her astray (Uncle Bernie) and has been in over her head for a long time, so if she does show up again I'm not going to have the same "ugh" feeling. And she actually was looking out for Chuck in this one, telling him that everyone lies, and he can't trust anyone, and not to let the CIA change him. I also loved the end when Sarah told Chuck to take his watch off, and that it was all a lie. It's going to be a very, very long six days until next week's episode.

My speculation is that Casey gets promoted and becomes the new team leader. That would be a game changer. Could those fighter jets be Roark taking out Beckman?? Remember also that Casey said "never betray my team" in the promo to Chuck.

This next episode seems to be finale caliber stuff, can't imagine how they will top it in two weeks.

Does it appear that Chuck turned the mind-game tables on Sarah at the end of the episode? In all the previous episodes when Chuck has resisted an order or assignment, Sarah would tell the General that she has everything under control and basically offer herself to Chuck as a reward if he will take the assignment. At the end of this episode, it appears that Chuck does some quick thinking and uses Sarah's soft spot, the issue of trust, to move her in his direction.

Also, I know this is a TV show, but the character of Beckman as a General is tenuous. In the real world, generals are reminded that there are plenty of Colonels willing and able to take their place if they do not run a command or program in a professional and efficient manner. It seems to me that Beckman is covering for herself. She has to report to a superior and be under review. Her program is unraveling and the buck will stop on her desk.

I have been surprised the last couple of weeks about just how wrong a consensus of message board fans can be when SPECULATING about future episodes...including me!

My thoughts from the episode:

--Sarah was conflicted right up until the end. Understandable. One mistake and she will be removed from Team Bartowski permanently.

--I don't believe that Casey is in support of Chuck and Sarah's "run". He appears to me to be telling Chuck in the promo "NEVER betray MY team".

--For me, the killer shot of the entire episode was the look on Sarah's face when she was whispering in Chuck's ear. Sarah doesn't show emotion very often and it looked genuine.

--Whether you like Chuck's kill, his move or him letting Jill go, it was still very in character for Chuck IMHO. I was thrilled about it.

--Letting Jill go sets up very nicely for not only next season, but also for being able to generate tension between Chuck and Sarah once they do become a couple. Especially in regards to Sarah finding out Chuck let her go.

--I don't agree with folks that Chuck was playing Sarah or testing Sarah at the end of the episode. Nor do I believe that Sarah was "tipping" Casey.

--If you read the official synopsis on the NBC site, it actually says at the end of the Burbs that Sarah KEEPS THE RING. Now, I will be the first to admit that sometimes those synopsis aren't the most accurate. I kind of feel like they are the official word though.

--One thing to keep in mind about the promo's; I feel like Fedak and company have been very tricky about misleading us intentionally using those promo's. They could mean ANYTHING!

I disagree with Casey NOT supporting the team, he has been THE team player. I think he is upset that he wasnt included in the plan to go after Papa B but Im sure he will show his true loyalty when the time comes.

Where have you been all season, Sarah not showing emotion?!?! She is the most amazing actress on TV for facial expressions showing silent emotions.

I dont think Chuck was playing Sarah either, he is too naive. I think she succommed to Chucks honesty/loyalty/trust to her and decided it was finally time to repay him.

As for promos. Ive always said that they are shown in a way to make things seem what they really are not. Like the promo for this episode, Chuck says "I dont trust anyone" thats all we get, but then he immediately says "except you".

As for the next promo with Casey, Id bet money that he actually says "I'd NEVER betray my team" because he is upset he was left out.

I know everybody I know would be happy not to hear me go on and on about Chuck and to quit begging them to watch it

Every warm body is welcome.
And there should be no hesitation. The mission was to save his father. By saving him, it gives Chuck a shot at removing the Intersect. Which gives him a shot with Sarah and a real life. Plus it would reduce the constant danger Ellie and Awesome and the rest of his friends are subject to, but aren't aware of. In short, way too much to worry about Sarah taking care of what she does best. Besides, Casey was on his way to help.



Chuck did know she was lying. Her information didn't quite make sense, but he ignored his gut feeling/instinct and trusted her. That's why he spoke up and said, 'I'm sorry'. It was really an "I dont believe you but I'm going to ignore that because you have always been there for me". That was when she finally caved, knowing he was right again and she was about to be the fundamental needle in the hay stake that would change him forever. Not only would she be way worse than the Jill betrayal, she would be doing something she was trying to avoid and something Jill warned him about. "Don't let them Change You Chuck."



Technically there is no team at this point. He could just be the guy in charge to hunt them down like in Season 1 Pilot.
The fighter jets are more likely to be taking out Chuck & his dad and whom ever is at that position. Kill a lot of birds with one or two rockets. Intersect 1.0, rogue Intersect designer, rogue agents, Fulcrum agents, etc.
As for the 'betray my team'. It 'looks' kinda like it is him talking about protecting Sarah and Chuck but it could easily be about Casey interpreting his 'team' as the good ole USA and General Beckman.

I think you totally misinterpreted my point about Sarah showing emotion. YES, we see her show emotion on her face and I LOVE it. It's just not as often as I would like. Usually, she is agent Walker.

Second, the one thing I will say about Casey is this: we can't tell from the promo WHICH side of the glass he is on!!! He could be locking Chuck up OR Chuck could be locking him up.

Same here, and I really enjoyed this episode, gave me a chance to watch it without thinking about it too much, or reading too deeply into it - a chance to watch it as they intended viewers to. It was fairly slow, but it was decent viewing.



Yay!! I mean, Chuck doesn't get the highest ratings, but it gets good ratings, much better than some shows, and with a loyal fan base of about 5-6million, which is higher than the ratings for some other shows. Even if NBC don't renew, then it has a decent chance of being picked up by another network.

I have to say, I really liked Jill's character in this episode, and it's made me like her character a lot more on a whole. In her arc earlier on in the Season I thought that she kept on changing her mind and wasn't too aggressive as part of a play, and on the inside she was evil all along. But it seems to me, after this episode, that she's just stuck in a rut. I hope to see more of her in Season 3 (there will be one!).

At first I wasn't too keen on the last few minutes, because it seemed like Sarah was going to take him in if he hadn't given that speech, but after reading some other people's opinions, and watching it once over, it's no easy feat to go against orders like she's done.

Last point - She didn't seem to be very happy in the very last scene, not really looking at Chuck or talking at all - was she just switched into agent mode, or what? I thought there'd be a bit of reassurance for Chuck 'I know, but we'll be ok' kinda thing.. anyone else have any thoughts on that last scene?



agreed. hehehe: Chuckaholics anonymous. But unlike other support groups, I have no trouble in admitting my Chuck- addiction! How many members d'you think we'd get?

I wonder what is in store for Milbarge at the Buy More!

I also feel that Casey may come through for the team in the next episode since they do just give tidbits of what is actually said to throw people off. We'll see on that.

I also agree that Sarah was being genuine at the end when she had to make a choice. The expression and whisper was the highlight of the episode and totally made me feel she's committed to Chuck.

... she will get her chance? That doesn't mean she will take the opportunity. As much as I would like some ... fulfillment on the part of the romance ... this season they've proved that they want their relationship filled with angst. Here's hoping that the scene from the promo isn't a freaking dream.

I just wanted to say that this was the best episode of Chuck ever. Great action, comedy and drama. I can't wait until next Monday!!!

I think Sarah made a snap decision she probably wasnt quite ready to make yet, she knows there will be consequences regarding her decision but Chucks speech was the nail in the coffin so to speak. This is without a doubt the boldest move Sarah has made to date, just wish it didnt take this long.

In the latest episode did anyone notice the second person they showed looking out the small window in the lockup was Richard Dean Anderson? Will he show up in a future episode to help or hinder Chuck?

After watching several times now, Im still wondering why Sarah would look back twice at the camera in Buy More. Is it to let Casey know that she plans to go off mission and to look for them ? She has to know that he is watching them, if she didnt want him to know, wouldnt she just tell Chuck then turn around and head out?

Any thoughts?

This might sound crazy, but the person who came to my mind when I saw the eyes was.....Harry Tang. We can assume that he DIDNT end up in Hawaii right?

I have to disagree on this. First, Beckman gives the order to shut it down but it hasn't happened yet. Second, it's easy to get lost in the muddy waters but nobody knows Chuck is the Intersect. Fulcrum and Roark would have never let him go in "Dream Job", they refer to him as "kill the CIA agent". Jill has no clue he is the Intersect either, she is amazed that he knows about the Fulcrum location in Barstow and questions how he knows but doesn't find out. So, trying to take out Chuck with a fleet of military aircart when he is simply seen as a CIA agent would be over the top. Beckman would be the bigger target considering the internal "war" they referred to in Broken Heart between CIA/NSA/Fulcrum.

I will however agree with your last point since Casey does appear to be a very loyal guy to serving his country and promos are definitely misleading.

Treason is a pretty hefty offense. I think she's just worried. I mean she essentially just stole the most important piece of US intelligence, there will be severe consequences. They have to go after Fulcrum while being hunted by the government, who wouldn't be scared out of their mind right now. Plus that's a conversation for next week followed by serious hooking up.

I don't think Sarah was deliberately (sorry, can't spell! Bit brain dead atm) looking at the cameras, she was looking around to see if there was anyone around them, and then hugged Chuck so that she could talk to him without A - Casey seeing that she's telling him something (though it made him suspicious, he wouldn't do anything about it.... just yet) and B - so that Casey couldn't hear her through the mic on Chuck's watch and (probably) on the cameras in the Buy More.

She wasn't trying to send Casey a message.



She needed to explain to Chuck the situation, but first she had to appear as though she was following the General's orders, even if reluctantly.


SWNerd, above ^^ Good point, I suppose we only got 10 seconds of them on the run in this episode anyway.

Anyone know why Chuck being the Intersect would be obsolete if Fulcrum has it's own Intersect? Just how would the bad guys getting a master computer negate the good guys own one? This I just don't understand.

I just wanted to throw my two cents out there before I go back and read every ones comments. I liked this episode a lot until the last ten minutes and then I loved it. The only problem I have is (and it is a little problem) is the whole trust thing I think it is wearing a little thin on me. What do these two have to do to trust each other ? Hopefully we are past that now and can get back to some good old fashion romance.

As for the promo for next week I've been waiting for two years for chuck and sarah to get together and i hope it happens next week but the writers have let me down all year long so I'm at the point that I will believe it when I see it. Hopefully sarah will take chuck back to the hotel room or where ever they are and reduce our boy chuck to a quivering pile of jello by the morning !! ( If you get my meaning )