CHUCK
CHUCK VERSUS THE FIRST KILL
04-13-2009 8:00PM

CHUCK TURNS TO A SURPRISING PERSON FROM HIS PAST IN ORDER TO FIND HIS FATHER—TONY HALE (“ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT”), SCOTT BAKULA (“QUANTUM LEAP”) AND JORDANA BREWSTER (“THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS”) GUEST STAR—After Chuck's father Steve (guest star Scott Bakula) is kidnapped by Fulcrum, Chuck learns the only chance he has to find him is by putting his trust and life into the hands of the person he trusts the least—his ex-girlfriend Jill Roberts (guest star Jordana Brewster). Meanwhile, the Buy More team tries to sabotage Emmett’s (guest star Tony Hale) corporate evaluation. Yvonne Strahovski, Adam Baldwin, Joshua Gomez, Scott Krinsky, Vik Sahay, Julia Ling and Mark Christopher Lawrence also star.

Show Cast: Zachary Levi, Yvonne Strahovski, Adam Baldwin, Joshua Gomez, Sarah Lancaster, Ryan McPartlin, Mark Christopher Lawrence, Vik Sahay, Scott Krinsky, Julia Ling

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I am so excited about this episode. Sounds like Jill finally has some good reason to come back. I hope he sticks by Sarah's side this time though.

It would be funny if it is portrayed as a Silence of the Lambs-like scenario and Jill is still in prison for the whole period and Chuck is seeking her advice while still behind bars.

I don't think I can contain my excitment

I must admit that this isn't what I expected for Jill's return to Chuck. I hope that we get some for certain closure as to whether or not Jill is truly evil or just caught up in something.

Ok..... soooo does this mean Jill gets a temporary leave of absence from the slammer? Maybe it counts as her 1 hour of exercise time.

So does this mean we get to see the Supermax prison that was shown in the comics?

I have so many questions pertaining to this episode...

I think its safe to assume that we see Chuck's first kill here. Hence, the title.
So... Who ends up being Chuck's first kill? A anonymous henchman? Jill? What situation will Chuck be in to get the first kill? A random kill? I am guessing it will be life or death with Sarah's life in danger. Lastly, how will the kill affect Chuck/Sarah/Casey individually?

Man, how much would that hurt if Chuck's first kill is Jill and he does so to save Sarah or Casey's life.

My prediction for the episode-

Chuck has to kill Jill to save Sarah.

That would be pretty deep. I just hope that they don't have 'closure' thing with Chuck/Jill if Jill does not die. I think that could hurt the progress that i'm hoping Chuck and Sarah have at this point in the season.

Mondays don't come around fast enough.

Omg I cannot wait for this! Why can't it be Monday everyday?

If every day was Monday some of us would have to work every day...that's a scary proposition...

This episode sounds very interesting. It's almost implied Chuck is going to off Jill...unless there is another Fulcrum agent for Chuck to blow away...

Too bad...I was hoping for a Chuck+Jill+Bryce scene...

Two questions, why does Fulcrum kidnap Papa Bartowski, because of his knowlege of how the intersect works or because Fulcrum has figured out who Chuck is and they want to draw him out for capture. Secondly, how does Chuck rescue his father without blowing his cover and likely Sarah and Casey's too.

It could be Jill's first kill too...

It doesn't say what he is going to "Kill"?

i'm predicting chuck has to save sarah by killing jill?
that would be kinda' rad.

Maybe Fulcrum kidnapping Chuck's dad is unrelated to Chuck BEING the intersect---maybe they kidnap him because of his own knowledge of the intersect. But I wouldn't trust Jill enough to release her either--still you gotta wonder where Bryce is since all of Fulcrum seems to be near Chuck...lol

I for one will be shocked if Jill dies. That means the writers are finally being somewhat unpredictable. If the show follows its predictable pattern, it will not be Jill and it will be in an effort to protect Sarah or Casey.

In another stream, I made a few predictions for the show and with Jill appearing, I am right about that one.

Hm. There was a comic (Chuck) where he goes to the super-secret prison/holding-facility, and stuff happens in there. Could it be that Jill escapes (much like the thing that happens in the comic - but it's not Jill in there) ,and she contacts Chuck - while Chuck has issues with Intersect being forever in his head, and searching for Orion...

Jill is his ticket to Orion. Now - I would LOVE to see Chuck whack Jill to save none other then Casey. That would be AWESOME. Saving Sarah is kind of too predictable even for this show.

Are they going to kill Jill? Not sure. I'd love for it to be so.

On my understanding... Papa B, is not Orion, but is part of the team that buided the intersect, or at least work very close to it. That the CIA has the records, of who worked on the intersect outside the intersect, has the oportunity to identify Papa B, there as part of the team. Fulcrum also have access to those files. One curius thing about the Professor Busgang is he didnt know he was working for the enemy, for him he was outside knowledge about that he just was working for the CIA

On my opinion also, is gonna be the first kill, but is not gonna be the only one. Regarding his cover, eventally papa B will know who is the intersect the thing is, all the people in fulcrum there has to be redacted somehow to keep an effective cover.

I still think Orion will be Chuck's dad. Probably Ted Roark or someone else tries to take credit for developing the intersect and claims to be Orion. One thing we did learn at the end of the last episode is that Orion found something out and maybe had a change of heart, then Perseus was shot. We probably will be lead to believe Orion is someone else until a few episodes down the line. Chuck finds out Papa B is Orion and can help him get the intersect out of his head. Then Papa B is either killed by Fulcrum or maybe Beckman in secret.

We are also assuming based on the episode description that Chuck's dad is taken. We aren't told why. To get Chuck? Cause Papa B is Orion and can help Fulcrum complete their intersect? We'll see, the last episodes of the season should be great. I'm just hoping for a season 3 at this point.

Even if it seems predictable, I do hope the first kill is Jill, especially if she's as bad as I think she is. Chuck will be the one to initiate Jill being sprung out of the CIA holding facility so I think if she tries to kill someone while free, he'll feel the responsibility to stop her by any means necessary.

I think they will kidnap Papa B to get Chuck. In other words, they will exchange Papa B for the intersect (Chuck).

I can see that. I actually like that idea a lot.

Chuck vs. the first kill...

and that probably be Chuck shooting Jill like 5 times straight!!! BLOW HER BRAINS OUT!!!!
JK Jk

But im thinking that Jill will probably try and kill Sarah again because Chuck had told Jill, "You know i was gonna let you go, but you were about to kill Sarah. You made the decision for me." So Jill wants revenge??? but this time... Chuck saves Sarah by shooting Jill???

You'd make a great Fulcrum agent.

I don't know... killing Jill just seems too extreme for Chuck, even to save Sarah. Maybe he just intended to disable her, not full on kill her. Either way, it's going to have some adverse side effects on Chuck.

Jill being Chuck's first kill is too predictable.

And no guarantee the "kill" will involve a human life...

Doctor, youre right.
It is too predictable. But also unimaginable. Chuck killing... his first love??
Thats something very bizarre and like i said, unimaginable.

Chuck would never hurt a woman he has deep feelings for. We know she broke his heart, but i dont think he lost all his feelings for her. He may have a tiny tiny spark with Jill.

But will he hurt Jill over Sarah?? For saving the woman he currently loves?
I think he would.

The show itself has big twists on its storyline. The first kill may not be a human. It could mean the very first kill of a non-living thing. It might go as far as Chuck destroying the intersect... or maybe even Chuck killing Casey. No one knows, but everything always has a link to each other. So this "kill" maybe anything or anyone that you would never expect.

wow the killing of Jill to save Casey is a great twist. Can you imagine the briefing afterward.

Beckman - Thank you Chuck for going above the call of duty
Chuck - General like I told you before I have feelings for both agents, Casey I love like a brother and I love Agent Walker, So, can we put this can't date the asset thing to bed? I know my role.
Casey - I'd rather taken a bullet.

Not to mention all the one liners this would generate from Casey.

Casey: Brother? *Hehe* Loser.
whispers: I love you too Chuck.

LOL imagine...

If TB breaks Jill out, she's got to die or go back to jail. I don't see the NSA/CIA letting her go free knowing what she knows and having done what she's done. I also don't see Casey or Sarah letting this happen and Chuck's not that stupid (although he tries from time-to-time). I also don't see the writers killing her as Jordana Brewster loves coming on the show and draws some viewers to it. It's too easy to bring her in for a ratings spike, if there is a season 3. So, what happens?

I suspect that Jill is injured, vulnerable and a Fulcrum agent is about to kill her, and Chuck kills the agent to save her. As the CIA/NSA are taking her away, she tells Chuck that Sarah is the right girl for him in the same way Cole did to Sarah. This may be prompted by Chuck rejecting Jill. Sarah may or may not see this. It will also bring final closure to the Chuck/Jill relationship, but keep her alive if the writers want to bring her back. A slight variation would be for her to make this statement to Sarah, but the writers seem to like to have parallel stories between Chuck and Sarah and their respective love interests.

The other options are either too dark (Chuck kills Jill) or too obvious (Chuck kills someone to save Sarah). This would show that Chuck is loyal (even to an evil Ex who is providing some help) while not ruining the Chuck/Sarah dynamic. I also think killing Jill would put him in such a funk that they could not reasonably resolve it by the end of the season. The Mauser quick resolution was one thing, but this would be an entirely different type of reaction and would require a lot more mourning. There's just not time to do that and I think the writers know that.

Finally, as for the shocking death, I bet it's Anna.

UChuckLA

Your reasoning is great but i dont think Anna will have anything to do with death of someone or something.

Anna has almost no link to the government besides the fact that she dated a Triad.
If Anna did die, that would mean Morgan's sad times, and that would mean it's Chuck's time to help with Morgan's sad times. That most likely means Chuck would be moving in with Morgan.

I dont think Anna is the right guess.

UChuckLA--

You make a good point. However, I dont see a fulcrum agent killing one of their own before say, Sarah or Casey. That is, unless Jill truly betrays Fulcrum and is really good. But Ive got to say that just the fact that Jill had that gun pointed at Sarah and ready to shoot makes me not buy the 'Jill is really good and just caught up with the wrong people' theory.

How did she think Chuck wouldve reacted if she had actually pulled the trigger? Dont think he wouldve been jumping back into bed with her like nothing happened.

All the back and forth backstabbing in the Jillogy makes me think she will probably agree to help Team B infiltrate Fulcrum to "help" them, but shes really setting him up to be captured, which was Fulcrums objective all along.

either chuck kills jill or his dad.

I don't think Chuck is going to kill anybody. It is not in his character and it would be the start of a slippery slope in the series. No they have to keep Chuck's character clean and nice.. that is who he is.

I think the "first kill" will be Jill's and she will do it to save Chuck or Sarah. Jill will prove she is good in the end and she will also recognise that she has lost Chuck to Sarah, but she will still save them. then she will tell Sarah that she did it for her and she has to look after Chuck now

I think that Sarah is going to ask Chuck to feed her goldfish while she is away for the weekend, maybe going to a convention for hot blond spies, and Chuck is distracted by Morgan into playing Call of Duty 43 and forgets all about the fish. When Sarah returns on Monday she finds her beloved goldfish belly up and Chuck has his first kill.

I would like the first kill to play out like this...

A fulcrum agent has a gun on Sarah and is obviously going to kill her. The scene changes to show Casey slowly creeping up on them with his gun drawn. Back to Sarah/Fulcrum agent, suddenly a gunshot is heard and the Fulcrum agent falls to the ground.

Sarah has a shocked look on her face and then cut to Casey who does as well. He looks around the room, then cut to Chuck standing with the gun drawn and smoking with a very serious/determined look on his face.

This is how I would like to see it play out. As much as Chuck hates guns and some might think it is ooc for Chuck, I think that if someone threatened someone he loved, he would do it. An example of this was in LW, when he was standing in the window...he saw the Fulcrum agent draw his gun on Casey and he jumped through the window. He would have attempted to shoot him if he needed too.

To me (as warped as this may sound), it will also bring CHARAH closer....Sarah will see that Chuck is willing to sacrifice everything he believes in for her.

I like this idea. I wouldn't like to see Chuck kill anyone yet he's too innocent and such a great contrast to Sarah and Casey and other govt agents.

I do think that Chuck is going to kill someone, the title seems fairly clear. I don't think it will be anyone significant to the plot, just some random bad guy. This is part of his growing up and facing what he has become involved in, it is not a nice part of what he is doing, but it is unrealistic for him to have people around him dropping like flies and Chuck being able to stay above it. It will have a big effect on him, but if he is trying to join Sarah's world this is part of that world. If she wants to join his world how she helps him deal with it and move beyond it is part of that process. He has to understand that this is part of her world and she has to understand that the abhorence is part of his, their story is how they find their middle ground.

lol abhorence.... what does that mean?
also, i was thinking like you herder. I was thinking it might be some random bad guy that Chuck would probably shoot in accident. I also thought it might be someone significant because the titles of chuck always have to do with someone or something that plays a pretty big part of the episode.

So the first kill might probably be the significance just because its a "first kill" for chuck.

GO YVONNE, and GO CARRIE UNDERWOOD!!!
Carrie > Yvonne

Agreed, Chuck will be the one making the kill. Even though it may be unpopular with some of the fans it is the next logical step. That being said, nothing is logical with Chuck, so anything is possible. Hopefully, to appease everyone it will be an accidental kill, we'll see.

After all us contemplating who will be Chucks first kill, wouldn't it be funny if he killed a lab animal by accident for the first kill?

My guess is he kills Jill.

That is just too dark for this show. I don't buy it... and a lot of people think the same as you. I just don't. I think the writers will have this be Jill's redemption episode.

^I agree, I just don't see it...

I tend to say it is Jill as well. I've been in law enforcement over 18 years and I have not had to kill anyone and it would probably really affect me if I did but I have to expect everyday it might happen.

Chuck has to know that as we all can see he's not stupid. He saw Sarah shoot the agent that was going to shoot him and Cole in the last episode of LW. To be honest he really teamed with Casey to kill the agents in Surburbs. He knew what the ramifications were of Casey starting the program and yes he did not push the button but he agreed it had to be done. I don't see it being a change of character unless it does not affect him for some after. Does not mean you're soft just that you're not used to it.

Abhorence is a moral repulsion, I don't have a dictionary to set out the exact definition nor probably the correct spelling but that is how I define it. Chuck had a huge problem with Sarah killing Mauser and he will have a bigger problem with his killing someone himself, but as with Mauser he came to understand the necessity under the circumstances of Sarah's action and I imagine he will come to undestand the necessity of his own actions, but how he comes to that realization is part of the story. I would imagine that it will be in a situation where it is a choice between someone he loves, probably Sarah or the random bad guy, having to chose the least bad outcome. Regardless it will be a moral/ethical crisis for him and he will need Sarah to guide him on how to deal with it.

The bigger story is about how he and Sarah who clearly come from different worlds come together in some sort of middle ground, both moving from where they were to a place where they can be together. Part of it is Sarah learning about her emotional side and part of it is Chuck growing up and learning about how to deal with the hard truths of the real world, this type of event will allow both to move towards where they have to be to become a union of equals.