Hello:

Congrats on the new job. Maybe you can talk to someone at NBC about moving Chuck's night. Monday night is only night I DVR shows. Now that House is on Mondays I have to cut a show that I used to watch. Many people are cutting Chuck out of there mix, you have Big Bang Theory on CBS, House on Fox, and Dancing with the Stars on ABC. If you move Chuck to either Sunday nights or Wed. night you will see the rating go up. NBC had huge rating when NFL football was on Sundays, now Sunday nights rating under 5 million viewers. On Wed. night you have Knight Rider 4.2 million viewers and Life 5.75 million viewers. Chuck right now get close to 7.5 million viewer on a night that House get 15 million, BBT gets 12 million and Dancing with the Stars get 20 million.
I remember a few years back NBC did not know what to do with Seinfeld. It was on against Home Improvement and was getting killed in the rating. You know what NBC did they moved Seinfeld to Thrusday nights after Cheers. Now look at Seinfeld, it goes down as one of the best shows ever onTV.
NBC should move Chuck to either night and give the show a fighting chance against the other networks.

keep this great and funny show on .... my family loves it.....

This is your place to discuss how "Chuck is faring in the ratings war. Part 2 can be found here.

Renewal talk goes here as well.

JD/ Forum Moderator

I havent seen any numbers yet but isnt 7.5mil+ a reasonable expectation for last nights episode? House (repeat) and BBT (no show) generally command a combined average of 18-20 mil viewers. If Chuck gets even 10% of those viewers on top of the 6mil it averages then 7.5 isnt out of the question. I will finally be concerned if Chucks numbers dont approach that figure.

Then you better be prepared to be concerned - there's no way the episode hits that mark

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6...451/m/997100891

6.05 million viewers, about what I expected. But I still think if we remain above a 2.0 in the 18-49 demo we'll get a third season which we did (2.2).

Oh, and NBC. If you haven't realized already the breaks you're putting in are killing the show. If you'd have aired them all after one another we'd be at around the 6.75mil mark. They were climbing every consecutive week. If I don't know better, I'd think you wanted it to fail.

Completely agree with the above. 6.05 million is not terrible, could be better, but not terrible.

Hopefully it'll go up to about 6.1-6.15 in the finals. I'm pretty sure the rest of the season is to be aired continuously, so hopefully we'll gain momentum again. Fingers crossed.

agree - even a steady 5% weekly increase will put it at or above 8 million for the finale

How much did heroes get?

That helps alot. I hadn't done the math on it, just noticed that from vs Best Friend to vs Lethal Weapon (I think it was those episodes), the viewership rose by 200-250k per episode. Let's hope it returns.

Heroes got 6.48million and a 3.0 demo. New series low I believe.

Yeah, those numbers are very discouraging. I guess if anything positive can be taken from last night numbers, its the 2.2 and the fact that Chuck isnt losing viewers as fast as Heroes and Medium.

Agreed, while I'm still worried about a renewal, I'm confident well get one if we stay above 2.0 and viewership stays consistent or better. If we dip under a 2.0 though, we're in real trouble.

I think one of the tricks will be to convince people who were put off by the breaks in airing new episodes to give Chuck another try for these final 5 episodes. If last night's episode is an indication of things to come as far as the feel or pace of upcoming episodes, I think Chuck could gain a healthy following by the season finale

Yea, if we grow 5% and reach 8 million that would be awesome. But right now, a 7+ million finale would do it for me.

OK, I really need to get some work done haha.

i come bearing news

"Two weeks ago (the last time there was a new episode) of Chuck, it averaged 5.69 million and a 2.0 rating with adults 18-49. I’d speculated that up against a repeat of House it would need to bump up at least 10% or even be more cause for concern that it already was among many fans. The good news is it did, and increased to 6.05 million and a 2.2 rating with adults 18-49."

to paraphrase the rest of the blurb...the bad news was it was up against a re-ran house.

Really sad that such an awesome episode got very low numbers.

I'm happy with last night's numbers. When the numbers get readjusted up again for DVR/online/corrections, it will represent an 8-10% jump up from the last new episode two weeks ago.

But last week's episode was a rerun.

tvbythenumbers.com updated their stats, now shows chuck got a 2.1, not a 2.2.

slow and steady wins the race....right? RIGHT?!

lol

True, we need consecutive episodes to get a good idea of increase in numbers and with no more breaks scheduled (YAY) before the finale, we should have a good idea by episode 20 or so.

we should wait till next week's ratings before we start flying off the handle. as this will be the run that we've been waiting for.

Hey guys (and gals), new to the board and I just read the last two pages of this thread, so if this has been explained, I apologize.

Here's my question. If the network loves "Chuck" (which i've read that they do), but they're thinking about cancelling it, then why don't they just move it to a less-contested time slot? Monday at 8pm is *Prime Time*. Why not put it on another night when it's not up against "House" or "Dancing with the Stars" and see if it can attract more viewers, then when it does (because it's such a great show overall), you can move it back to Mondays? Wouldn't that be better than cancelling it and trying to come up with something else to fill that slot? Kinda seems like starting over with a new show/new cast, etc, etc won't help NBC win the ratings war OR save money.

However, I don't know jack about the TV industry, so i'm sure that's been considered. I just don't understand the rationale behind cancelling a show that is somewhat popular instead of moving it to give it a chance to suceed/grow.

I really think the next 2 episodes could very well determine the fate of Chuck. If it can even maintain its numbers up against new episodes of House and BBT I think it has a legit shot at renewal. Fingers crossed too.

I know watch with kristen is going to begin their poll to keep chuck for next year on April 3. Please vote for chuck. ( sorry if repeating what's been posted haven't read all thread).

Keep the faith Chucksters .

Positives:
-ratings up from last week
-awesome episode
-agent cylon is in next week's episode
-maybe a hot catfight next week for an increase in viewership

Hi everyone, this is my first post here although I've been reading the forum for a long time.
I just wanted to bring something back up that I read recently but seems to have been passed over. At the end of the predator Big Mike says to Morgan that there have been rumors going around about a store closing but do not worry we're not going anywhere. Now, this could only be a reference to the current economy, but I think it is a clever way of telling us chuck will get renewed (I hope!). Wouldn't be the first time writers hint at a show's future in the script, remember back to Arrested Development, the final shows hinted strongly at the shows predicament.

Chuck probably would be safe for renewal due to NBC's atrocious numbers all around but they are giving Leno 5 hours of prime time real estate starting next season. Combine that with needing space for new shows and there are just not allot of spots available for next season. As for why they don't move the show right now, this late in the season any move is just going to cause a loss in viewers and there is not enough time to build up viewers on a new night.

Could somebody please explain the numbers to me? I read this some where:

Chuck (Viewers: #4, 6.05 million; A18-49: #4, 2.2/ 6)

I don't understand how 2.2 equals only like 3.7 million one week but this week becomes 6.05 million.

Don't me wrong, I am very happy that Chuck got over 6 million! I just don't understand why the different numbers. I was the first to post numbers from Media Week today and the numbers above don't quite match those which I don't understand either. I thought they all got them from Neilsen.

well all we can do is keeping telling our friends/family how awesome this show is and at what time it's on and hope they listen.

I posted 3 status updates on facebook reminding people and got some traction

let's just hope it gets renewed. i think any show is in tough vs DWTS. my lord.... 19.38 million viewers! wowsers.

cheers,
keebler

NerdHerdWaNaB, the numbers are broken down by different demographic. The key demo being 18-49 year olds.

I really think nbc will pick the show back up, I remember the office crew thought they would be canceled after one season and they got picked up, I'm pretty sure Friday Night Lights has always been pretty poor and yet they have 3 season (although probably not a 4th). I just really hope nbc doesn't dump a great show for another crappy reality tv show. I personally only watch the Office and Chuck, I have never watched any reality tv shows. So if nbc were to cancel Chuck they would probably never get me back (not that I would go to any of the other networks )
I stick by my assumptions for big mike's forshadowing. I don't see another reason for that conversion unless it is something for next season.

Maybe since Chuck seems to do fine on Mondays in the fall, and not so much in the Spring, if they did renew it for 18 episodes like they did Heroes (I think thats how much they got) they could air the first 9 or so episodes in the Fall on Mondays, and the rest in the spring on Wednesdays.

Thanks for the response!

You know, NBC could do itself a GIGANTIC favor if it would quit jerking Chuck around. This nonsense about taking a month here and a couple of weeks there is KILLING this show!!!

It shouldn't be the show that is canceled, it should be the person who is in charge of programming IMO.

^^^I agree 100%. It seems that NBC almost wants Chuck to fail. They always switch the schedule for it and that month and a half break was awful.

NBC never promoted the show. The reason House, 24, and the CBS giants do so well is because they market, not because they are better. Anyone that has taken a business class in college (as I have, Econ major, fun stuff) knows that the only way to increase market share is by advertising and marketing.

NBC did this during the Super Bowl and guess what? Chuck got it's highest ratings of the season. Airing 3 30 second clips during the week for Chuck does not quite cut it.

Unfortunately, that was an epic fail of an episode. Turned away many would-be fans. I remember people telling me the show was silly after that night, and I would have thought the same thing if it was the only episode I had seen.

You're right. The 3D episode was not that great at all. I think if they would have aired Best Friend instead they would have done a lot better for picking up new viewers.

I think if more celebs watched the show it would get better demo ratings.. Think about how much promotion Ellen gives on her show towards Dancing with the Stars and the Bachelor.

Oh and the cast needs to do more talk shows

Well it's Tuersday. Time to talk about renewals.

It doesn't look good. But neither for Heroes (take your personal assumptions).

We have done all that we could. Chuck fought, like David against 3 Golias. It's all in NBC hands now.

Except that the actors and writers had no idea at that time (and still don't) about renewal. If they already knew that "Chuck" was going to be renewed for a third season, then NBC would have already announced it. But it won't be decided until May. They have to wait and see how the ratings stand at that point.

So Big Mike's conversation *could* have been wishful thinking on the part of the writers talking about renewal, but it would be just that. Wishful thinking.

Here is some positive news from tvbythenumbers about the ratings

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/03/24/dollh...1#comment-63270

I found this article at least somehwat optimistic instead of all doom and gloom.

I really think it is a little early to decry the lack of viewer ship for this episode. We have noted on these boards a number of times that Chuck builds steam over the course of several episodes. This was the first of 6 new episodes in a row. NOW would be a great time to get new viewers interested in Chuck. I would imagine that the next 5 episodes are going to have great portions of all of the pillars that make Chuck great: action, comedy and romance.

What better time to really hit the marketing hard and bring in viewers to see Chuck in its stride as a show. Vs. 3D was maybe one of the LEAST representative episodes of Chuck that has been broadcast, it was a terrible. The marketing guru's at NBC have a golden opportunity to string together a series of potentially GREAT Chuck episodes to really attract a larger following. Of course, all of this assumes that last nights episode really is an indication of things to come and the writers don’t throw every other element of the show under the bus in the name of more emotional torture and anxiety of the main characters.

yes, but note that these are results from the mar. 6 eppy.

Exactly what I have been saying for MONTHS. Ellen is the most watched show in the daytime, and every show she talks about gets good ratings...I know most of the the people who go on her show that are TV actors have shows on ABC, she very rarely has guests on other networks, but Chuck tapes on the same lot as Ellen, is it really that hard to pull Zach or Yvonne over for 10 minutes and do an interview? I feel NBC neglects Chuck big time.

Final Numbers are up. 6.156 million and up 0.1 in demos pointing to 2.2/6. Heroes with no changes in final. Difference of ~= 300 k.

It's better.

Despite the low numbers, it was an increase, even with the week break. I really think with 5 consecutive airings, Chuck will gain a decent amount of momentum to ensure it's renewal. I mean, it did during the first half of the season. Even with House and what not.

Great news that the demos are at 2.2. That chuck back on course with the expected at least 10% increase for this episode

I think that next week we will get pretty depressed with house retourn, and with a new episode of TBBT, and HIMYM at 8.30

Everyone think about the postion nbc is in right now? They are in need of shows like chuck around.Lets face it they only have a few hard hitter shows anymore.Chuck could be one of those if they do oh lets say promote and show commericals.Thats how you get viewers not guessing if people will watch it or not.