chuckupchuck
Apr 21 2009, 05:03 PM
QUOTE (ksi8518 @ Apr 21 2009, 05:59 PM)

From preview, How much exactly did Chuck get paid??
They were promoting Chuck some thing like "Saving World at $11/hr"
Since he was full time, so 40hours a week for 2.5 year (am I correct on this?) then He earned about $57,200. Well If we include other bonuses and stuff, maybe he made about $60k? That doesn't sounds that much to gasp. Wonder how much did he make? I bet it is tax free though.
the 11 an hour part was referring to he buymore salary he gets. i dont think he would be payed 11 an hour. i think his check is upwards of 100k. just because its for 2 years and chuck has been called the most valuable government asset.
chuckandmorgan
Apr 21 2009, 05:05 PM
It doesn't look like Jill will be back so she won't die. They have so many guest-stars as is and a lot to wrap up.
The 'shocking' death will either be Chevy Chase or Emmett being electricuted. I think the episode will end with Jeff and Lester singing some ridiculous song to Ellie and Awesome. It has to end on a somewhat upbeat note. (Or an off-tune note with J&L.) It might be nice to have Fulcrum fall apart and have Chuck and co. fight other bad guys for awhile.
I guess Papa B could also die, and that would be really sad. Not sure what Ellie discovers about Chuck. I do hope Papa B sees the bracelet on Sarah. Unless Papa B fakes his death and Bryce takes him away into hiding again. If Chuck and Ellie think he's dead they'll be safe.
Needs to be two weddings too! Next Monday...get here now!
HookedAgain
Apr 21 2009, 05:08 PM
QUOTE (herder @ Apr 21 2009, 04:49 PM)

There are a number of clips and interviews at nbc.epk.tv I think/hope it is ok to post this link, it is nbc after all.
Thanks for posting this although I watched the clips - and now wish I didn't. One of the great things about Chuck is how well written it is and how it continues to surprise and satisfy as we get deeper into the story. Like many of you, I am really looking forward to next Monday and dreading it at the same time. I'm afraid that knowing too much might just get in the way. All that said, I do have a theory about Chuck getting the intersect back. We know that Roark will be back, we know he wants the intersect, and we know that he will threaten to kill Ellie. Chuck has come a long way this season, he knows that he can't deliver the intersect to Roark and he will do everything he can to protect his family. So I believe he will put the intersect back in his head - and attempt to deliver himself to Roark.
Or it could all be a dream and Bobby Ewing will be in the shower...........
frozenfiery
Apr 21 2009, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (chuckandmorgan @ Apr 21 2009, 06:05 PM)

It doesn't look like Jill will be back so she won't die. They have so many guest-stars as is and a lot to wrap up.
The 'shocking' death will either be Chevy Chase or Emmett being electricuted. I think the episode will end with Jeff and Lester singing some ridiculous song to Ellie and Awesome. It has to end on a somewhat upbeat note. (Or an off-tune note with J&L.) It might be nice to have Fulcrum fall apart and have Chuck and co. fight other bad guys for awhile.
I guess Papa B could also die, and that would be really sad. Not sure what Ellie discovers about Chuck. I do hope Papa B sees the bracelet on Sarah. Unless Papa B fakes his death and Bryce takes him away into hiding again. If Chuck and Ellie think he's dead they'll be safe.
Needs to be two weddings too! Next Monday...get here now!
the biggest possibility of death would be either chuck's dad or bryce. [i lean more towards bryce since many people on the forums have said he has a new show now....]
also fulcrum falling apart would = no more chuck [in a sense...unless they find a new enemy chuck can use his intersect on...]
i personally two weddings would be hard. 1 would definately be ellie and awesome but the second im guessing your referring to chuck and sarah? [if so, then it may be a possibility but i think it's highly unlikely because it is chuck and sarah we are talking about....]
SnapeGirl
Apr 21 2009, 05:21 PM
QUOTE (j85548 @ Apr 21 2009, 04:11 PM)

I love speculating so here's a wild one I've mentioned on other boards before:
Mama B is Beckman. Since everyone uses code names, and correct me if I'm wrong, Beckman and Orion have not seen each other since his arrival, then she could theoretically be his mother. Orion never knew where the mother went. This could also bring the ring concept into play.
Unfortunately, Chuck HAS seen his Mother growing up (he didn't say she left when they were infants) and I'm hoping that someone how gave birth to Chuck and Ellie wouldn't be the supreme bitch that Beckman is.
CHOB4EVER
Apr 21 2009, 05:22 PM
I know I shouldn't ask this because I will regret it... but can someone tell me what happens in the clips?? For some hideous reason my computer is not letting me view them... and you all are making me crazy with curiosity lol!!! Just PM please... if you can...
SnapeGirl
Apr 21 2009, 05:23 PM
QUOTE (elsol @ Apr 21 2009, 03:52 PM)

Nope. They buy a franchise of the Weinerlicious, and have Morgan as his 'ass man' and the imbecile brothers as the fry-guys.
Knowing Chuck, it would be a video game arcade. They would all be in Heaven!! The only problem would be, Sarah wouldn't be able to get Chuck away from playing with Morgan. They wouldn't have to bother with getting more condoms.
chuckupchuck
Apr 21 2009, 05:28 PM
i the interview zac says he is very well feeling about the next season that they will be here. he would have a very hard time letting go if he felt badly or knew about no third season. that could be good, i mean they would probably let the star(s) in on whether or not to expect more work for them
ChuckNut
Apr 21 2009, 05:29 PM
QUOTE (TeamChuck1 @ Apr 21 2009, 04:49 PM)

If you look at the sneak peek there are 2 people missing from the reception. (I think) and it's Casey and Bryce. Papa B is there, it all depends if the major death is before that or after.
first, Bryce wouldn't be attending the reception because Ellie thinks he's dead. as for when the "shocking death" happens, i'm guessing after the reception. first, everyone's mood seems too light, without any hint of sadness (unless the death is Emmet's in which case, all the merrier.) also, from the preview, we saw Chuck say to PapaB during the reception that he should go after them (whoever "them" is); then, in the Intersect room, Chuck (shown from the shoulders up, so granted, this is based only the inch of collar that we see) is wearing the same clothes as at the reception; but Casey and Sarah are wearing different, mission appropriate, clothes when Sarah screams her pained scream. then again, the death doesn't have to happen during the scene in the Intersect room. as for Bryce: i'm assuming he is the one shooting the gun at the end of the preview (the face is obscured by the exploding bullet), but from the sleeves he is wearing the same clothes as at the wedding, and the background isn't the white of the Intersect room, so that could be during the wedding mayhem. anyway, just shooting at straws after watching everything there is to watch. i can't help myself... must ... have ... Chuck...
SnapeGirl
Apr 21 2009, 05:30 PM
QUOTE (nycdude @ Apr 21 2009, 05:11 PM)

Good one benally. I would like to also see how the bracelet tied into everything and what was papaB reaction to it on Sarah. We still have next week to see but this may just be an after thought that may not in the final script.
Since the bracelet is something that PapaB gave to MamaB, it could conceivably be something "spy related" that he was hiding. Then, luckily, they will have it there when all hell breaks loose at the wedding. However, I'm hoping that it comes up in a very quiet moment between PapaB and Sarah, where he talks to her about how much he loved Chuck's Mother and how he sees that love in Charah. (ala Chuck's talk with Sarah's Dad.) That would be a beautiful moment in a show that is most-likely going to be filled with massive amounts of action/adventure.
gmtBB
Apr 21 2009, 05:32 PM
Did anyone else notice that Sarah looked like she was mad at Chuck when Chuck was speaking to Ellie and Chuck turns around and stares at Sarah as she walks into the room? (This is regarding the clips from nbc.epk.tv)
ChuckNut
Apr 21 2009, 05:33 PM
QUOTE (chuckupchuck @ Apr 21 2009, 05:28 PM)

i the interview zac says he is very well feeling about the next season that they will be here. he would have a very hard time letting go if he felt badly or knew about no third season. that could be good, i mean they would probably let the star(s) in on whether or not to expect more work for them
yes, but keep in mind that they were filming these interviews a few months ago, when they were wrapping up the season.
chuckandmorgan
Apr 21 2009, 05:42 PM
I don't think Casey was going to kill Devon. Especially considering how important he thought it was that Papa B, who served his country honorably, be allowed to see his daughter get married.
He was probably going to tranq him and from there...? He could have become leverage to stop Chuck from running again. Luckily, none of that had to happen. The truth is that Casey just seemed to have hurt feelings that Chuck and Sarah didn't trust him. Poor Casey. I liked that Chuck invited him as a friend to the rehearsal dinner.
j85548
Apr 21 2009, 05:42 PM
QUOTE (frozenfiery @ Apr 21 2009, 06:18 PM)

the biggest possibility of death would be either chuck's dad or bryce. [i lean more towards bryce since many people on the forums have said he has a new show now....]
also fulcrum falling apart would = no more chuck [in a sense...unless they find a new enemy chuck can use his intersect on...]
i personally two weddings would be hard. 1 would definately be ellie and awesome but the second im guessing your referring to chuck and sarah? [if so, then it may be a possibility but i think it's highly unlikely because it is chuck and sarah we are talking about....]
I'm going to end my speculation about the shocking death with two possibilities:
1. Emmitt gets killed in a funny and unexpected way, maybe heart attack. His reaction to the power outage was priceless.
2. The Intersect itself gets killed, well at least we'll think it did. And Chuck will learn early in Season 3 that his dad put his to sleep and didn't really take it out.
I hate to think it's possible but I think Chuck and Sarah might be left in limbo at the end. I think Fedak was referring to people destroying their living rooms because we aren't going to get the finality we want from the relationship. I think there will resolution on many levels, Ellie gets married, the family is reunited, Casey gets the promotion, and Morgan moves on but I think we will be left wanting with Chuck and Sarah. I'm just not feeling confident about a resolution there. Help me feel confident with a reason why they will get together in the finale. Anyone?
AgentCasey
Apr 21 2009, 05:44 PM
QUOTE (SnapeGirl @ Apr 21 2009, 06:21 PM)

Unfortunately, Chuck HAS seen his Mother growing up (he didn't say she left when they were infants) and I'm hoping that someone how gave birth to Chuck and Ellie wouldn't be the supreme bitch that Beckman is.
Maybe Beckman is Chucks mom.
Carlp007
Apr 21 2009, 05:44 PM
Ok, I watched the 7 mins of preview and want more, more, more. Here is my take from reading and watching everything up until now.
Chuck and Casey quit before the wedding, go over to the OO where he gets his surprise check and Casey's number (I think getting Casey's number is very important).
Everyone is preparing for the wedding at the Church. Bryce pops back up in town. The big day comes along. Chuck goes and sees Ellie. He also sees Sarah, but she is hesitant to look at Chuck. After a little filler talk. Sarah breaks the news that she has been re-assigned with Bryce and will be leaving after the wedding.
This upsets Chuck, so he is waking around the reception hall, grabs a bottle of champagne and sits down to ponder their little talk. Roark shows up and makes his threat.
All hell breaks loose during the abduction of Ellie. Chuck convinces everyone that he needs to get the intersect to save Ellie, or he take the initiative to go and take it.
I am still contemplating how they actually save Ellie. Bryce is there to help and Ellie finds out about Chucks past two years. Roark is killed in the rescue (this would be the shocking death).
Ellie is rescued. They have the wedding on the beach. Then Chuck and Sarah have a talk on Beach and she is leaving.
The reception is in the courtyard that evening after the wedding. Chuck and Morgan talk. Sarah is called away for her next mission. Chuck starts after her but is stopped by PapaB. Where is told that he is not an agent. Chuck says something to the effect we will see about that.
Chuck calls Casey and tells him that he needs his help to become an agent so he can be with Sarah.
Then maybe some additional footage of Chuck.
Of course this is my take on things. Just a guess from what I have heard and seen. I do not think there will be much Charah in this episode. We got that last episode.
Let me know your thoughts, and maybe fill in some blanks or story lines.
chuckupchuck
Apr 21 2009, 05:44 PM
thats true but we can try to be positive. if you think something bad will happen it will. lol
cherrycherry
Apr 21 2009, 05:45 PM
I have this dumb feeling Bryce came back, because sarah told him his mission is off with Chuck and she needs a new partner. Chuck maybe thinking about a much stronger relatonship with sarah as you see him smilling when Ellie tells him to go after his dreams (in preview on nbc) and maybe even think about proposing to sarah. When Chuck finds out why Bryce came back he will be Mad. But later he will see that Sarah is really "into" him after Sarah will maybe take a bullet for Chuck over Bryce something like that.
i dont think chuck will take the intersect back bt he will prove that he can be a real spy and maybe work the computers in the force.
PLEASE KEEP CHUCK FOR A SEASON 3 (AND 4,5,)
ConDaMon
Apr 21 2009, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (AgentCasey @ Apr 21 2009, 06:44 PM)

Maybe Beckman is Chucks mom.
His mom left when he was in 5th grade. I think he would recognize her plus how could she tell casey to kill chuck if hes her son? Shes cold but i dont think she could do that
chuckupchuck
Apr 21 2009, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (AgentCasey @ Apr 21 2009, 06:44 PM)

Maybe Beckman is Chucks mom.
no cause orion wouldve known that his wife (who was also risking his sons life) was talking to chucks handlers in vs the predator
SnapeGirl
Apr 21 2009, 05:51 PM
QUOTE (j85548 @ Apr 21 2009, 06:42 PM)

I think there will resolution on many levels, Ellie gets married, the family is reunited, Casey gets the promotion, and Morgan moves on but I think we will be left wanting with Chuck and Sarah.
You really think that Morgan moves on? Becoming a Benihana chef in Hawaii... really?? It makes more sense that it was the funniest thing that writers could come up with as the catalyst to get Morgan out of the BuyMore so they can plan season 3 without it? I'm sure the "game changer" involves losing the BuyMore. Maybe this check the government gives Chuck is the capital he needs to start a company with Morgan. Then they can just add the "Jeffster" stuff when they need comic relief. For instance, Morgan could hire them for certain jobs, they mess up and get fired, etc.
QUOTE (AgentCasey @ Apr 21 2009, 06:44 PM)

Maybe Beckman is Chucks mom.
I think my post that you are refering to was saying the exact opposite. Wouldn't Chuck recognize his own Mother. And how cold could she be if she orders him to be killed. Ouch. Not happenin' dude.
Did you make a type-O and meant "Casey's" Mom instead? I'm confused.
Don_Quixote
Apr 21 2009, 05:54 PM
Do NOT read this if you want this episode ruined .... the death will be of .... Dad or Dad-in-law or Mom-in-law or Ellie or Awesome or Morgan or Lester or Jeff or Mike or King of Buymoria or Casey or Sarah or Jill or Bryce or General or Anna .... MARK that down .... you heard it first from MOI !!!
ChuckNut
Apr 21 2009, 05:55 PM
QUOTE (Carlp007 @ Apr 21 2009, 05:44 PM)

carlp, what you wrote is what i've figured in my mind, too, except i'm not sure where the scene in the Intersect room fits. i'm thinking it takes place after the reception (based on an inch of Chuck's shirt collar, i know, it's not a lot to go on

) and it seems that Chuck is in trouble there, with Sarah and Casey there to rescue him, no?
Menschlord
Apr 21 2009, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (zorkfan @ Apr 21 2009, 05:32 PM)

I will be totally bummed if Papa B is the one who dies--now if it is a fake death so he can go underground and resurface at times in season 3, okay...but otherwise--what a waste of a great character! Sorry...I will stop whining soon...
As for me...I hope it's Granger...(sorry snapegirl, I love Potter too!) I really hope it's Bryce
A fake PapaB death could be arranged, but a death for his kids would be much more meaningful. Also, since Orion is the only one who can apparently get the Intersect to work for anyone, there has to be something that keeps Chuck unique in his abilities (in order to be included in the intelligence community despite is undisciplined approach). Fulcrum is obviously of the opinion that anyone can absorb the intersect data, or at least a decently large number of potential recruits. If the NSA/CIA are in possession of the current existing intersect, then Chuck isn't going to be unique enough for them to put up with him. Beckman still attributes his abilities as a spy to him being the intersect, not him. If they can intersect existing agents, then while Chuck DOES have other merits, they would be readily overlooked for a trained, 'appropriately' responsive agent.
eaglemmoomin
Apr 21 2009, 05:58 PM
Well I've been lurking on here for some time. But after the last episode in conjunction with the promo footage I have to say the shocking death has got to be Chuck. Pretty game changing I think and it kind of makes sense in terms of the ordering of the promo if the reception with Chuck's dad telling him he is'nt a spy is from the middle of the show and not the end. Everyone is far too happy at the reception for it to be the end being as we know there is a big plot twist and a shocking death to come. Bryce helping Chuck to rescue Ellie at the start of the show also seems to fit more if arranged like that. So Chuck nobly sacrificing himself/surrendering himself to Fulcrum with the intersect in him right at the end of vs The Ring seems to fit in with the end of the promo.
G0LDFISH
Apr 21 2009, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (SnapeGirl @ Apr 21 2009, 04:59 PM)

I REALLY hope "the Ring" opens up with Chuck and Sarah in bed in her hotel room having a nice "ILY" discussion. I don't need to see them doing the deed, I just want it over with before the summer break! I also think that it's possible that when we come back to start Season 3, they could do a ONE YEAR LATER scenario after Chuck has had some training. Maybe with just some biting references from Casey making fun of his abilities or accidents that he caused.
Oh my god, I would love for Chuck Vs. The Ring to start like that also. That way I'll be able to sigh my sigh of relief/satisfaction and carry on with the rest of the storyline. I admit that I'm one of those viewers that watches MAINLY for Charah.
Unfortunately, I have a nasty feeling that Chuck Vs. The Ring isn't going to play out the way I hope it would. I think they will leave us with a nasty Charah feeling in our stomachs. I think that's why Fedak said we'll burn our living rooms. They're gambling more on getting a 3rd season (which I know they will how could they not?) so they're setting up a nasty Charah cliffhanger. :\
Oh and I totally laughed out loud over the post that said the condom is the ring in Chuck Vs. The Ring hahaha. Good one
KevinCalvin
Apr 21 2009, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (Menschlord @ Apr 21 2009, 06:56 PM)

A fake PapaB death could be arranged, but a death for his kids would be much more meaningful. Also, since Orion is the only one who can apparently get the Intersect to work for anyone, there has to be something that keeps Chuck unique in his abilities (in order to be included in the intelligence community despite is undisciplined approach). Fulcrum is obviously of the opinion that anyone can absorb the intersect data, or at least a decently large number of potential recruits. If the NSA/CIA are in possession of the current existing intersect, then Chuck isn't going to be unique enough for them to put up with him. Beckman still attributes his abilities as a spy to him being the intersect, not him. If they can intersect existing agents, then while Chuck DOES have other merits, they would be readily overlooked for a trained, 'appropriately' responsive agent.
If you look at the preview however, there is a strong indication that next episode will be Chuck proving he is a spy w/o the intersect.
AndrewT
Apr 21 2009, 06:04 PM
I'm not going to watch to 7 min preview of the season finale, because half the fun is anticipation. The half seems to be abject fear and obsession. I personally feel that I can be satisfied with strange twist the season finale throws our way EXCEPT a breakup of Chuck and Sarah. Anyone remember the season finale to Scrubs Season 3? Don't do that! I don't want to watch in horror if Chuck and Sarah somehow decide they shouldn't be together, or that they aren't in love with each other. Sarah get's kidnapped and Chuck has to go after her, fine. But I don't want the writers to decide that they aren't emotionally connected anymore. Chuck and Sarah (and by extension, Casey) are the heart of this show, and that kind of emotional letdown is not what I come to watch week after week after week.
butterbeancd
Apr 21 2009, 06:06 PM
QUOTE (SnapeGirl @ Apr 21 2009, 06:51 PM)

Maybe this check the government gives Chuck is the capital he needs to start a company with Morgan.
I can see that. I think the CIA and NSA have gained at least some respect for Chuck, especially since they're finally paying him. I'm curious to see if we ever find out exactly how much he's paid. If it really is a ton, I seriously could see him starting his own software company, and bringing Morgan and Jeffster along with him.
For one, Chuck wants his cover to life to at least be respectable. From Bryce to Captain Awesome, everybody has shown him a lack of respect because of what was originally his real life. Both of them turned around and improved their opinion of him once they found out Chuck was a spy and doing good things, but I think Chuck would want people to respect him for his cover too. And, as Bryce said, Chuck always wanted to be "Bill Gates with style." I don't think he'll get that big, but I could totally see him starting a software company that does legit work, but is also a perfect cover business for CIA and NSA activity. I don't see anything wrong or completely unbelievable with that.
By the way, anyone else think Emmett might be the death, and he dies in the Buy More? Like Team Bartowski somehow end up trapped in there, but use their secret escape to get into Castle, while Fulcrum blows up the building because they think everyone is in there, but just Emmett is? They do have a trap door that goes into Castle, right? I feel like they revealed that at some point, but I could be wrong.
HookedAgain
Apr 21 2009, 06:06 PM
For those of you having trouble with the nbc site, the videos are now all posted on
http://zachary-levi.com/.
KevinCalvin
Apr 21 2009, 06:10 PM
QUOTE (G0LDFISH @ Apr 21 2009, 07:02 PM)

Unfortunately, I have a nasty feeling that Chuck Vs. The Ring isn't going to play out the way I hope it would. I think they will leave us with a nasty Charah feeling in our stomachs. I think that's why Fedak said we'll burn our living rooms. They're gambling more on getting a 3rd season (which I know they will how could they not?) so they're setting up a nasty Charah cliffhanger. :\
Normally I think that the "cliffhanger so that the fans will want more and the networks feel obliged" idea is a bad one, however in the interview that Josh Schwartz did with the times to coincide with this episode, he hinted that he would not be happy with NBC if they let Chuck go, and that it would be a bad idea if they wanted access to future programming of his... So hopefully instead of viewers saying they'll boycott, the idea of a creator hinting at if not boycotting, disadvantaging a network will help grease the wheels. Also, the CW should get some sort of repeat rights to Chuck if the WB gives NBC a better licencing deal.
...Aaand I'm off topic. Sorry!
sarahlovesme
Apr 21 2009, 06:14 PM
QUOTE (ziglord @ Apr 21 2009, 05:25 PM)

They're also in the video section of the show site.
I've watched the 7 minutes of video. I think with all of the "insights" that we've had all along, combined with the spoiler rich previews, I've got a pretty good idea how this is going to play out, who the death is etc. I know they're hoping to launch the show in a different direction in season 3. I also believe strategically it's a good idea. I've convinced a number of people to watch Chuck and they are lost because the stories rely so heavily on knowing the characters and their background. I've loaned out my season 1 DVDs to help catch-up, but I'm not sure they've really watched them or continued watching the series. I don't know any Nielson families anyway.
To the finale: It's pretty obvious that when Sarah comes into the Bridal dressing room that she's just found out that she's been re-assigned and can't be with Chuck. I think it's also obvious how the last part with the Morgan discussion works its way out too, Normal life, or following your heart with the girl you love. If there's a season 3, I think this is wonderful. A good strategy and a good way to go.
If there is not a season 3, I think I would have liked the end of Colonel as a series finale. My imagination could go all sorts of fun places from there -- even (especially) with Chevy Chase on the loose.
If it does end like the previews make it seem, and there is no season 3, I'm afraid that I will be one of those Chris Fedak said will want to burn down my living room because of the most unsatisfying series finale in television history. It wouldn't be just grief over losing the best show on TV, but having it end like this - character Armageddon - everything changed. I think it would even change my ability to watch my (now pre-ordered) Season 2 DVDs when they arrive.
Well, to be honest, I'll be watching - surrounded by people eating $5 footlongs - fairly confident of a 3rd season. I suspect that short of a ratings collapse the decision has already been made. I really believe NBC would be crazy to announce a renewal decision before the finale. Look at what kind of interest and revenue being on the bubble is generating.
You're bang on regarding so many things - especially the look Sarah gives Chuck. After The Colonel, you'd think her expression would be so full of love and joy, but I could read the dislike on her face.
I still haven't seen the preview that was at the end of the show so I'm missing on some other things.
2 bad it was a 2 hr finale

let's just pray for a 3rd season. I have full confidence in the writers to make it work.
SilentCartographer
Apr 21 2009, 06:21 PM
QUOTE
Hot blonde girlfriend, super agent man, and has a computer in his head -- that's the ultimate geek life, isn't it?
Wouldn't be the same show without the Intersect -- although I bet they change how the intersect works, especially with Version 2.0 being tied to the Roark OS upgrade.
elsol brings up a good point (sorry, not sure exactly how to quote posts, so this may not turn out right). I had forgotton about the Roark OS upgrade. It was released to the public and nothing has been heard of it since. Maybe something with that could trigger the Intersect to "reboot" in Chuck's head.
As sad as I would be to see it go, it does seem the Buy More might be on the way out. If the cost of the set really is such a big concern, I suppose it makes sense to ditch it, especially if they are truly aiming for a different direction in Season 3. It would be too bad though, as I get a big kick out of the Nerd Herd name and the Nerd Herder cars and such. I just hope whatever they do, they find a way to keep Jeff and Lester around. Gotta have my Jeffster!
I'm still cracking up over the chloroform..."Mind if get right?"
CaptainJackHarkness
Apr 21 2009, 06:23 PM
We'll see what happens...not sure yet but disappointed only Bryce will be returning...what about the Chinese agent Chuck helped in vs the Sizzling Shrimp? She owes Chuck one. What about Cole? He seems to care about Chuck a lot...
Well, this episode doubles as a series finale, so one way or another, Chuck and Sarah end up together...
chuckfan23
Apr 21 2009, 06:36 PM
I still cannot believe how much has happened this episode!!!
I have two predictions for the next episode:
1. The BuyMore will be no more.
2. Orion will die.
Save Chuck!!!
Bucko27
Apr 21 2009, 06:37 PM
QUOTE (G0LDFISH @ Apr 21 2009, 07:02 PM)

Unfortunately, I have a nasty feeling that Chuck Vs. The Ring isn't going to play out the way I hope it would. I think they will leave us with a nasty Charah feeling in our stomachs. I think that's why Fedak said we'll burn our living rooms. They're gambling more on getting a 3rd season (which I know they will how could they not?) so they're setting up a nasty Charah cliffhanger. :\
I'm starting to agree with you, GOLDFISH. I've done all the polite things I could think of - positive statements of encouragement, thanks and support to the network and sponsors, promises of future support to sponsors, anything POSITIVE.
But you know, I may really swear off TV completely if Chuck is canceled, and that's a threat I make intentionally. My heart would not be ready for another investment like this - not for a long while.
SubliminallyStrong
Apr 21 2009, 06:38 PM
QUOTE (chuckfan23 @ Apr 21 2009, 07:36 PM)

I still cannot believe how much has happened this episode!!!
I have two predictions for the next episode:
1. The BuyMore will be no more.
2. Orion will die.
Save Chuck!!!
I don't think I am ready for any of those predictions!!

Agreed that this has been a jam-packed episode, but I have felt that most episodes of season-2 have been like that!!
ziglord
Apr 21 2009, 06:43 PM
QUOTE (ohannigan @ Apr 21 2009, 08:12 AM)

After rewatching the promo, I really think Sarah is referring to Chuck with her "DON'T YOU TOUCH HIM!" There's an atom bomb's worth of concern and desperation in her voice. The life of the man she loves is in danger.
Also, if anyone can rewatch it, look at everyone's concerning looks in the White Room scenes. Casey and Sarah look like their world's been turned upside down and Chuck looks utterly confused.
Something big is coming...
I agree. Here's what happened. One of the bride's maids slow dances a little too affectionately with Chuck and Chuck seems to enjoy it. Sarah objects, screams, "Don't touch him!" and threatens to kill them both. That would explain everything (shocking death included)
[just kidding]
cherrycherry
Apr 21 2009, 06:52 PM
"It's pretty obvious that when Sarah comes into the Bridal dressing room that she's just found out that she's been re-assigned and can't be with Chuck. I think it's also obvious how the last part with the Morgan discussion works its way out too, Normal life, or following your heart with the girl you love"
This was said and maybe true regarding Sarah. At first she was reassigned with bryce and left the wedding for the new mission. But maybe she decided not to take the new missions or work locally (something of that sort) because she is following what she wants. Back in chuck vs the suburbs everyone commented how much she was enjoying playing house with chuck. And on another epesoide (i dont recall wich one) she was speaking to Jhon about having a normal life and having a family and Jhon said/reminded her you decided to serve your country. This is what sarah really wants and maybe chooses to stay with Chuck at the end. At the reception infront of the house Chuck sees Sarah smiling, and chuck relizes sarah decided to stay with him.
CHUCK VS THE RING there has to be a second ring involved besides Ellies It may be Chuck propses to Sarah quietly and sarah says she cant there is a new mission. Later at the reception infront of house Chuck sees she decided to stay with him.
Chuck_Fan_in_Va
Apr 21 2009, 06:55 PM
I agree I think she has been reassigned possibly with Bryce and that is the reason for the look. I can't help but fear we are looking at another courtyard dissappointment with Charah. I hope I am wrong and I can be satified during the beak and hopefully a S3.
Hope is that NBC does not plan to cancel and just kept things quiet for the sponsers. The last episode was so great. Let's hope the writers come through
butterbeancd
Apr 21 2009, 06:59 PM
QUOTE (cherrycherry @ Apr 21 2009, 07:52 PM)

CHUCK VS THE RING there has to be a second ring involved besides Ellies It may be Chuck propses to Sarah quietly and sarah says she cant there is a new mission. Later at the reception infront of house Chuck sees she decided to stay with him.
I agree that the name is a double meaning, but I don't think it refers to a second ring someone wears on their finger. There are so many connotations of "ring" that it's hard to plan what the second meaning could be, but my thought is this:
Beckman turns out to be an Elder of a third evil conglomerate that we haven't seen, a "ring" of spies, as it were. Someone in another thread jokingly said the ring is the condom that Chuck gets back in his IOU from Morgan, which I actually find a hilarious idea. It won't happen, obviously, but I still think it's funny.
EDIT: I just looked up "ring" in the dictionary to see how many different things it can mean, and this one in particular struck me: "a group of persons cooperating for unethical, illicit, or illegal purposes"
TheLionKing
Apr 21 2009, 07:02 PM
^ I don't think there will be a Charah disappointment, from the looks of the promo, there seems to be a general feel of huge Charah moment. I don't know what it is, but all the conversations in the promo make me feel Chuck will tell Sarah about how he feels and Sarah will actually acknowledge it fully. I just have that feeling when I was watching it.
I think the ring might mean the ring of Fulcrum boss or maybe the CIA/NSA head boss has a meeting in a circular room that looks like a ring?
oXChuckXo
Apr 21 2009, 07:04 PM
QUOTE (Carlp007 @ Apr 21 2009, 05:44 PM)

I agree everything you have said there, except i do believe there will be lots of Charah moments as Yvonne told us the interview. It will suck if there is anything going to stop chuck and sarah being together at the end of the episode. Fans have been waiting this for 2 years now. I dont want to live on an edge if this show get can__ (the word that can not be spoken).
Hopefully vs. the Ring is going to be a powerful exciting episode that can also do something encourage people in their real life (a little bit help to the terrible economy, for that matter). Just dont make me feel any kind of sad or disappointed, to prevent me from burning down my house
Is this really going to be a 2hr season finale?
NBC and WB please give this wonderful awesome amazing show a 3rd season
Bucko27
Apr 21 2009, 07:08 PM
^ Chuck has spoken his heart to Sarah *many* times, Lionking. Sarah almost never speaks her heart.
But then again, after watching your animated sig., what more acknowledgement is desired???
ChuckSarahLove
Apr 21 2009, 07:13 PM
QUOTE (Carlp007 @ Apr 21 2009, 05:44 PM)

I agree everything you have said there, except i do believe there will be lots of Charah moments as Yvonne told us the interview. It will suck if there is anything going to stop chuck and sarah being together at the end of the episode. Fans have been waiting this for 2 years now. I dont want to live on an edge if this show get can__ (the word that can not be spoken).
Hopefully vs. the Ring is going to be a powerful exciting episode that can also do something encourage people in their real life (a little bit help to the terrible economy, for that matter). Just dont make me feel any kind of sad or disappointed, to prevent me from burning down my house
Is this really going to be a 2hr season finale?
NBC and WB please give this wonderful awesome amazing show a 3rd season
Menschlord
Apr 21 2009, 07:13 PM
QUOTE (KevinCalvin @ Apr 21 2009, 06:02 PM)

If you look at the preview however, there is a strong indication that next episode will be Chuck proving he is a spy w/o the intersect.
As it has been proven in these 2 seasons, Chuck can complete spy work, despite his lack of training. He might even accomplish things that spies could not accomplish, even without the intersect. However I am saying, that despite his latent abilities to complete the given work, if Beckman, or her CIA equivalent, had the option of Agent Bartowski, or another, already trained agent, they would chose the other agent instantly as it is right now. If the intersect was given to both, again, they would chose the trained agent. Chuck does have what it takes, but his style goes against the grain of the intelligence agencies shown in the show. He lets emotions guide his actions, he does things he thinks are right despite orders. A commanding officer would not choose an operative like that over a trained agent, unless they had a track record of proven results. Beckman most likely still attributes Chuck's successes to his team, and the presence of the intersect. He might be able to apply for training, but that training would defintitely change him from being Chuck. This is why I say that something has to happen making Chuck once again irreplaceable, either leaving him the only intersect, or a very rare type of person is required to be intersected in mass, in order to keep his current association with the government.
AgentCasey
Apr 21 2009, 07:16 PM
What's gonna happen between Awesome and Casey?
SubliminallyStrong
Apr 21 2009, 07:18 PM
QUOTE (vachuckfan @ Apr 21 2009, 08:03 PM)

Man I am so frustrated. I hate to say it, but by judging by the spoilers I am not sure if I want to watch the finale without knowing the show is coming back. This last episode was so good, that it would be the perfect ending. If they leave a giant cliff hanger and the show doesn't comeback what is the point?
I totally agree with perfect ending. If I did not watch the next episode, I'd be happy with whatever the show has given me so far...seriously..
I have been strictly avoiding all the spoilers, and if giant cliff-hanger is in the store, then I'd rather not watch it,
if the show is not coming back (God forbid). It would take huge time to come out of depression, man!! especially..without Sarah walker!
AgentCasey
Apr 21 2009, 07:22 PM
What's gonna happen between Awesome an Casey?
KevinCalvin
Apr 21 2009, 07:23 PM
QUOTE (Menschlord @ Apr 21 2009, 08:13 PM)

As it has been proven in these 2 seasons, Chuck can complete spy work, despite his lack of training. He might even accomplish things that spies could not accomplish, even without the intersect. However I am saying, that despite his latent abilities to complete the given work, if Beckman, or her CIA equivalent, had the option of Agent Bartowski, or another, already trained agent, they would chose the other agent instantly as it is right now. If the intersect was given to both, again, they would chose the trained agent. Chuck does have what it takes, but his style goes against the grain of the intelligence agencies shown in the show. He lets emotions guide his actions, he does things he thinks are right despite orders. A commanding officer would not choose an operative like that over a trained agent, unless they had a track record of proven results. Beckman most likely still attributes Chuck's successes to his team, and the presence of the intersect. He might be able to apply for training, but that training would defintitely change him from being Chuck. This is why I say that something has to happen making Chuck once again irreplaceable, either leaving him the only intersect, or a very rare type of person is required to be intersected in mass, in order to keep his current association with the government.
Chuck is a competent individual, but besides the intersect, he's come nowhere close to any other professional spy in terms of ability. He does get some things done, but they're often done in a silly manner (Lethal Weapon, Seduction, etc.) and so by completing spywork in a competent manner without the intersect, his transformation into a competent, but more importantly worthy, spy is narrated. So is his acceptance of the spy position. Further, Chuck has a quality still that most others don't, he's trustworthy. When Beckman said "do you know how many spies I've lost to Fulcrum?" she didn't just mean that they'd been killed. If Bryce or anyone dies and gives Chuck specifically a mission, its unlikely that after proving himself in this manner he would be refused the job.
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