I like ur theory but i dont see them killing sarah. That would **** the fans off and chuck would be traumatized and never be the same chuck we all love

Doubtful Sarah would die, realistically anyway, since she's got a contract longer than most marriages last.

I've seen the promo enough times to have committed it to memory and I am fairly certain that Bryce is definitely not firing his gun in the Intersect room. It's bright white and the shot of him shooting is darker and the walls look gray. Maybe castle?

However I do believe the scream could be Chuck and Sarah being dragged apart (like Chuck and his Dad in Dream Job), Casey and Papa B. pulling her back while Fulcrum and Roarke take him away. Game change indeed. This of course would only be further setup by some sort of resolution between them happening earlier in the episode, maybe first thing, with an IOU coming after the rehearsal dinner.

I'm not expecting any fulfillment of the Charah relationship in that regard in this episode. I don't believe there will be time or story-telling need to have them get physical. I would like further development on their emotional state after what happened in Vs. the Colonel but even that might be asking too much. There is going to be so much going on this episode that no doubt some things will be left unresolved. My prediction is the status of Charah will be in limbo at the end of Vs. The Ring.

I think you're right, just hoping you're wrong. I would think it would be fair trade off for us to get the continuation of the end of Colonel, just something, anything, and then I think I'd be more than satisfied to have them put back in limbo as a result of the events of Ring. I am still holding out hope as well that the beach wedding location is from the pilot and we get something from Chuck and Sarah on the verbal side since it would bring back memories for them. Then they can do whatever they want to us with regards to their future. That way we get something but not nothing in case we don't Season 3.

There is no way they would kill sarah. She is one of main reasons people watch the show. At least she is for me. She might take a bullet for chuck but there is no way they would kill her. If they did kill her the ratings would fall so fast the show probably would be canceled by mid season.

I just saw the official promo in full and I have to say it will be one wild ride come Monday. I have a feeling the Sarah scream in the intersect room is when something happened to Chuck. I also feel there there will be some moments in the Charah front despite what other people think.

we will all see what happens and season 3 will come.

Hi everyone this is my first post.....I sure hope your right, this is the only network show I watch that is'nt sci-fi and it sure has me hooked

I think she will take a bullet while chuck is being dragged off and then the credits will roll. They won't kill her off, but that would be a good cliffhanger

Sadly I agree with you I think last episode was basically it on the charah front. I would really like to hear sarah tell chuck she loves him but I don't even think we will get that. I hope we are wrong but I doubt it.

I wonder if flashbacks would be out of the question for season 3. Also, they could expand on what happened in this episode by having Devon run interference with Jeff & Lester.

I am all about having the cast having to act out scenes with other characters that they don't normally get to work with. I love Sarah/Morgan scenes, and Lester/Sarah, Ellie/Jeff, Devon/Anna. One big one I would like to see more of is Sarah/Ellie.

That would rock.

Hopefully this episode and the finale are launching points for more mixing of the characters.

Since Casey was promoted, I'm pretty confident General Beckman will be killed/replaced. There's got to be a reason Casey made Colonel...I think it's to let him take over Beckman's job (and most likely 6-figure income)...Though as an officer in charge Casey will be very busy...

Otherwise, I think this episode may end with Chuck being re-Intersect-ed and comatose with Sarah by his bedside, refusing to leave him. A great way to please the fans as well as end the series, or be a cliffhanger for next season...plus keep the tension, since Chuck will be in a coma and thus not be aware of Sarah's loyalty to him. Only problem in this scenario is that Awesome will have to come up with some really good BS to sell this.

I really hope in season three that Jeffster come really close to finding out about Chuck. I think that would make for some pretty funny situations.

I likes, I likes!!

The writers are pretty good at coming up with BS, plus why wouldn't Mrs. Ellie Woodcomb trust her husband with whatever he tells her?

Everyone is talking about cliffhangers and whether there will be one or not. If there is one which I hope there isn't ( I hate cliffhangers ) I believe the writers know that they got a third season. I don't think they would end the season on a cliffhanger if they weren't sure the show was returning.

The gunfight has to happen at the reception a church. If you have ever been inside a reception hall most have white walls. Ellie gets kidnapped . Bryce , Sarah and Chuck leave to catch the what's left of Fulcrum. Their Dad is the one shot. But Chuck does have to get the intersect back. Casey will remain in limbo.
Wasn't something mentioned in the season one Dvd about Captain Awesome being a spy?

well, A--Mrs. Woodcomb will be on her honeymoon and may not even know Chuck is in a coma because B--the beginning of season 3 can be the day after Chuck goes into a coma in tvland...so who needs BS?

This really doesnt have to do with this show, but everyone is reading this fourm so ill ask my question here.

does anyone remember wich show has sarah and chuck tied up to chairs and there was some comotion so sarah kicks chucks chair away and there is some action after i would love to see that scene again if some can let me know (pm if you wish)

thank you

i put this in earlier i was just wondering in the shocking death could be a main character but the catch is that is only momentary. chuck flat lines for 30 seconds, they cut to comercial, and they bring him back it, since he was dead in the course of bringing him back to life it actually reboots his brain and the intersect is back and papa b's (bs') overload is lost.

could chuck and sarah become a two person team with casey being there suppervisor? beckman dies casey is the highest ranking officer that has knowledge of operation bartowski because of how close to the vest they had to keep it. chuck gets trained and re-intersected. him and sarah go around the country/world TOGEITHER fighting crime and saving the day.

the only problem with the intersect room is that it is in washington. why would chuck be in washington? i know thats what it looks like but logisticly it would waste alot of time. although they could have to break into the intersect room inorder to get it back in his head. so that could explain the don't touch him line that sarah yells and the other people that are restraining her as she yells it?
thoughts?

I know that a lot of people bring this up, but it's NEVER a guarantee of whether they are killing off a character on a show. Contracts are bought out all the time in Hollywood. They just pay the actor off legally and close the contract. It's more of a protection for the studio to guarantee that an actor won't just leave a job since the writers/creators plan out an entire season ahead of time and have storylines that depend on them. If an actor is crazy enough to just leave a job, they are sued heavily.

That said... I wish everyone would calm down about CHUCK, SARAH or CASEY dying in the season finale. It's not happening. No way, no day! Possibly if this was season 7 and they ran out of ideas, then it's a possibility that either Sarah or Casey would get killed for shock value or a storyline going in another direction. Trust me, the producers would not have spent so much time and effort to drive the Charah story just have to Sarah killed. And, people, the show is called CHUCK. He's not dying. Stop freaking out.

Calm thoughts, peaceful thoughts, loving hand touching thoughts... ah, that's much better.

The CIA intersect room is in D.C. This is the Fulcrum Intersect room that Orion gave Chuck the schematics on. Most likely, it's in LA since that is where Fulcrum HQ was based.

Unless the Intersect room isn't in Washington, or maybe there is more to the Roark campus than we know about. Also, the looks on Sarah and Casey's faces tell me they are totally surprised by what they are seeing, so maybe the new Intersect is being built a lot closer to Chuck than we think. Or better yet, the room the Elders were in is actually that room and they are part of that whole scene.

There's no guarantee of this either. When they are planning out the show, their first priority is setting up next season to get the viewers hooked and excited. Storyline is most important. The footage is filmed weeks in advance, then the post production starts with editing, laying down the audio (music, sound FX, etc.), special FX, etc. Then it needs to be delivered to the studio for Rights and Clearances of all footage, music, etc. and for promotional considerations (tv ads, online ads, critic reviews). This all goes into play weeks and months before they are approved for another season.

I think they made the decision to go with story over commitment and just decide to give the viewer a great hour of TV. But YES, there will definitely be a cliffhanger...prepare yourself.

i didn't think that it could be roarks intersect room.

if anyone dies i hope it is beckman she drives me nuts. she is like an early casey except she isn't a one liner GOD. casey sees the relationship but he realizes that it is not neccassarily a liabilaty. you would be worried that it would make chuck more likely to put himself in the line of fire to save her but he does that for casey all the time as well it is just who he is.

Just for clarity:

Sarah yells "Don't you touch him", I think some people have thought she yells "Don't you shoot him" in the promo.

Is it weird that I'm actually hoping for no direct Charah moments in this episode? I feel last episode left their relationship at a point that all the fans can be satisfied with. The importance of this episode should be to give NBC no choice but to renew Chuck because whatever game changer they came up with is too good not to continue. If we get an ILY scene in this episode, NBC might consider canceling the show because they would know the fans got what they wanted and it is "endable" (to coin a word lol). The main priority in this episode has to be to leave the show at a completely "unendable" point. Yea, the summer is going to suck and it would definitely suck if it gets canceled, but it would suck if it gets canceled either way and this is the best chance to get renewed (even if for only 13 episodes).

Totally true, resolution leaves nothing to look forward to or speculate about until September. I like it.

On another note, I mentioned previously the quote from Sarah and I wanted to add that Jeff and Lester definitely appear to perform in the Church so I am pretty sure the big shoot out happens at the reception site while everyone else is at the Church and that would mean Ellie is never in danger beyond Roarke threatening her.

My $0.02 is that this isn't as double-meaning as the episode titles normally are. I think it refers to the wedding primarily.

Since last episode featured so many loose end tie-ups I'm looking at this season finale as a potential series finale. I'm not sure how they could strech the concept out anymore after they pretty much wrapped it up already.

:-(

That's the beauty of it, this really could instead be looked at as a Pilot episode for Season 3. The writers sad they were taking the show in a new direction so wrapping certain aspects up was totally necessary, it only makes the anticipation for what we are in store for Monday all the better.

In my days of TV viewing "New Direction" is an instant red flag. I'm not sure I want a new direction. I'm not sure the show can succeed outside of itself. Its concept and premise has been wrapped up quite nicely in last weeks episode.

What else do you want?

I certainly don't want CHUCK to remain on TV just for the sake of being on TV -- that's what happened to SMALLVILLE and look how unbearably cruddy that show became once it outwore its premise.

I'm sure there will be a cliff-hanger of some sort but I'm not so sure it's going to be what people expect. Most of the time we speculate on what's going to happen and we are so far off its not funny. I still think we will see some Charah moments early in the finale which play a huge part in how the episode ends and I wouldn't be surprised if the "L" word comes up, maybe I'm just hoping it will. IMHO, I think the writers will give us the Charah moment we all crave in the event this turns out to be the final episode and any surprise/cliff-hanger will NOT be based on the Chuck/Sarah relationship but a possible new storyline they hope to use for Season 3. Time will tell I guess.

I know its a long-shot, but I am so hoping that they have a surprise/teaser clip at the end of this episode to surprise the hell out of everyone regarding Season 3.

Wow! Great thoughts all. I didn't even realize that Sarah yells "Don't you touch him!" I was absolutely 100% convinced that she yelled something to the effect of "Don't shoot! No!" I guess my brain is hearing what it thinks it should maybe I don't know.

I don't think they would kill Sarah off totally. Also good points about the intersect being in D.C. and the location of the Bryce shot. Here's my new theory LOL ;-) I think maybe Bryce shoots Beckman at Castle when we find out she is some how evil or sinister or otherwise needs to go. I also agree it makes sense for Casey to be in charge next season they can do away with the whole Beckman thing he gets a new "unit" to command so to speak and it gives him incentive to stick around if he gets to boss around Chuck ;-)

Now as far as the white room scenario. If they are in the intersect room it's possible that Chuck gets re-intersected, perhaps they realize the cube isn't as effective as a human intersect for some reason? Speaking of the intersect cube where is it now? Castle? DC w/Beckman? So if Chuck gets reimplanted them maybe he is lying there and Rourke or some other bad guy comes along and is going to take him.

There seems to be a lot of family stuff going on here perhaps Chuck is forced to make the same choice that his dad made and has to work for Fulcrum or whoever in order to keep Ellie and his family safe. I think he would probably choose them over Sarah. They've spent most of the series so far building the bond between Ellie and Chuck. So where does that leave us as Season 3 opens? Fulcrum (or other baddies) has Chuck in their control and Casey is in charge of the new mission which isn't to protect the intersect but to rescue Chuck and by extension recover the intersect. They could make that a good three or four episode ark to start the season and perhaps in the course of working for the bad guys Chuck discovers their real much more horrific plan which Team Bartowski must then work to stop.

One thing I'm struggling with as others are is for as much faith as I have in the show I'm wondering big time about the Buy More and Morgan? Perhaps he chickens out? But Chuck has also quit the Buy More. I fell like an essential part of what makes Chuck Chuck is that fundamentally he's a normal guy how do you maintain that without the Buy More? I also enjoy the whole Buy More as a Best Buy parody part of the show quite a bit but perhaps it is time to Parody something else? Maybe Morgan opens a restaurant and Jeffster is the band? I don't know this is a big hole for me in terms of how they pull of the Season 3 we all want.

All I can say to the people who doubt what is happening is (re: BuyMore, Morgan, etc.) "Oh ye of little faith!"

Haven't the producers given us so much more than we ever expected in the first two seasons? They created this whole world in the first place. If they are changing it, you have to know that it will be better and funnier and you will be loving every minute of it. They have it all plotted out, and everyone who is in the know seems to like what they are planning. If the creators are excited about the new direction, then the shows will be fun and interesting and they will top the previous seasons. And the actors will be excited because they will have something challenging to work with instead of the same old formula.

To be honest, how much longer could they go with this same premise and keep it interesting? On another note, if the BuyMore set is too expensive to keep shooting in, wouldn't you rather it go away than CHUCK to go away?

Just sit back and enjoy the season finale and see what's in store for next year.

Great insight everyone! I have been a little concerned about the Morgan/Buy More thing too. Besides it being a reflection of Chucks' 'Average Joe' persona, some of funniest scenes throughout the series have been in or involving the Buy More crew. I have complete faith in the writers, and I applaud there bold move to essentially write out Chuck's buddy and the Buy More, I'm just curious to see what they come up with next and where the story is going to go.

As for the shootout, I think that makes sense. There will be a showdown between TB and Fulcrum in which the entire hall is trashed. Feeling bad Chuck manages to use the apartment courtyard for the reception, that's how we get the courtyard party scene from that NBC preview. Also, did anyone else catch that on the Chuck homepage they have it listed as the 'SEASON Finale'? Does that mean anything?

I'm still not convinced that Chuck and Sarah will be separated at episode end. That would be too in the event this is the final episode, now IF we knew there was a Season 3, I could see it. If it is part of the cliff-hanger then someone has done a very good job protecting the fact that Season 3 is definitely going to happen.

And this is a "Good idea"?? if the show creators are taking the show in a new direction (again) and this finale is more like a Season 3 Pilot, NBC has got to think that the show is only good for 7 M viewer with a 2.6 Demo (or roughly 3.5 Million ) in 18-49 as a maximum. Is that supposed to be attractive to advertisers ? as opposed to a "Day One" series which may have more upside. OR a series that they produce under "Universal"-name instead of Warner Bros. Not sure how appealing it would be for advertisers to be on a show that finishes in last place in it's timeslot.

I for one don't understand the change in direction ? after all, Josh Schwartz and Chris Fedak really only have experience in the cancelled OC and teenie bopper Gossip Girl on a Junior network. NBC may want to look for series from more experienced people like JJ Abrams, Josh Whedon, or even Dean Devlin. I am a huge Fringe and Lost fan, LEVERAGE (NBC should pick that up) is great show on cable, and Josh will always have Firefly, no matter what happens to Dollhouse. NBC should really look closely, I was a fan of "V" back in the 80's and I will definitely give it a look at next year if ABC brings it back, NBC has decided that 5 days of Leno is what they want to do, so everything else should not be left to chance. Advertising by the show's creators that Chuck is moving a new direction, presents "Uncertainty" for NBC and I am not sure if that is the proper direction nor the experienced direction to take. Fan base from the first season shrunk in season 2, I would think that consistency in the show's direction and building the fan base back up should be a prerequisite to thinking of moving the show in a different direction. I think that season 3 chances get worse the longer we don't hear anything from the network.

Completely agree with everything you said. Eventually the buy more had to go away. After a while the same stuff would make the show stale

I actually couldn't agree more. I have faith and that is why I desperately want a Season 3, because I'm pretty sure no matter what I'd dream up in terms of what Season 3 would have been what it is actually planned to be is far better.

One of the reasons I love this show is because it consistently surprises me, makes me actually leap out of my chair at the awesomeness (LOL!), surprising, etc. I lept out of my chair when Casey went after Chuck and Sarah and I lept out of it to cheer him when he went charging after Chuck's dad. If there's one thing we know for sure they excel at twists and turns but never once I have I ever felt steered wrong by the show. Anyways we all know how great as show this is.

IS IT MONDAY YET?!?! (wow how often do you ever say that? ;-))

I can see Emmitt getting fired or quitting after half the store quits on him and Big Mike getting his job back based on some Morgan scheme to overthrow Buy-Moria. Thats the only way I can see Casey and Chuck going back to the Buy More after something goes down, Chuck gets the intersect again and has to stay undercover in Castle.

As far as the Intersect cube goes, if its to fit in the ep, it has to still be in Burbank/LA if he's to meet the 40 minute with traffic deadline (lol @ Chevy Chase's awesome lines in the last few episodes).

Perhaps Team Chuck stops Roark's attempt at the wedding only to find out it was a diversion to keep Casey and Sarah away from Castle (where i think the Intersect still in before its sent back to DC, and Bryce was sent to team up with Sarah to bring the Intersect back to DC to start off their new 'partnership' before Sarah gets to the wedding), and after the foiled attempt at the wedding, its redone on the beach, then we get to the afterparty where we see the scene where PapaB tells Chuck he's not a spy. Bryce then meets up with Sarah at the reception where she and Casey learn the Intersect cube was stolen, Chuck wants to go with, PapaB tells him he's not a spy, but he goes anyway. Chuck is able then to get into Roark's intersect room, and they get ambushed. Roark tries to take Chuck while Casey and Sarah are dealing with Roark's cronies, Sarah screams, Bryce comes in and ambushes the ambush and puts some lead into Roark, giving Chuck the chance to get free, turns on the intersect and yells for Team Chuck to close their eyes while Chuck fries everyone in the room and reintersects himself.

Thats the way I'd like to see it go down

NBC has technically only officially renewed one show, Friday Night Lights. Heroes, I believe is unofficially renewed. The reason I believe they want to take the show in a new direction for Season 3 is to try to get more people to watch the show. If they essentially keep the good elements of Chuck and keep what works, while at the same time trying to do something new to get more viewers, what's the problem with that?

We also haven't seen what this new direction is. I like to compare it the Nintendo and what they have done for the video game market with the DS and Wii. They expanded their audience while trying to retain their hardcore fans. Which, for the most part, has worked. So if Chuck can keep it's fans, still be that show we all love, and expand it's audience, why not?

I was referring to the feeling of the audience that since many things were resolved in Colonel, Ring could be more a lead into Season 3 than closing up Season 2. That's all.

As for ratings, I can't even really count Season 1 because of the strike and the huge gap before we saw a new episode in Season 2. Not to mention the huge gaps NBC put in this season with no repeats that stalled any chance of growth. I know growth is great but the show has not shed viewers this season and certainly has grown, though only modestly, in the last few weeks. I think with the right support and maybe a better time slot on a different night, instead of competing with shows that are completely different, would do the show good and we might see 7M+ next season with growth.

I don't see any harm in bringing it back for 13 and giving it the chance. Cut it in December, like they will do to Leno, if it doesn't perform.

I've been considering the line about the fans wanting to set their living rooms on fire and I had a horrible thought---and of course I had to share it...lol...what if the whole thing (the last two seasons) is a dream Chuck had after learning of his father's death while still at Standford? And he wakes up at the very end of the episode and meets Bryce? I know it's bizarre---but, hey, it's an 80's type of plot move...

Forget the living room, my house would be burning.....

If that was to happen, the only thing burning in my living room would be the first season of Chuck DVD's. And no I am not kidding

Except the whole Intersect in Chuck's brain thing and Intersect in general, this show has been rooted in reality. I doubt Chuck will wake up from this coma and it was all a dream. This isn't a soap opera.

I'm curious as to why everyone thinks that Morgan will be leaving the show. I never thought that at all. To me, his quitting the BuyMore was just a device to get him out of the store when they lose that plotline. That way, Morgan is free to be back in Chuck's life minus the entanglements of the store.

It's pretty easy to open Season 3 with Morgan coming back from Hawaii telling Chuck some cockamamy story about setting the Benihana on fire or something. Either they decide to keep Ana because they have an arsenal of storyline with how their relationship fits into Chuck's life (the comparison of their crazy relationship and Charah's relationship amidst the spyworld drama), or else he comes back alone and is the funny 3rd wheel with Chuck and Sarah. But I never once thought they would send Morgan away permanently.

I agree but am also of the mind set that the Buy More is still around. How do you dump the whole comedy side of the show, and all the pop culture references? It's billed as a Comedy, and I don't think a Buy More-less show holds true to what has made this so good. I think Morgan may very well leave temporarily but he'll be back for sure.

I still stand by my prediction on the last page

I can't want to see how this plays out. I'm only sad that the season is over. Chuck is the greatest show on TV. Show your support for Chuck at SaveChuckBartowski.com

One thing I noticed from 7min preview is that Church wedding must be ruined. That way Chuck throws reception at Elli's apt. Also Possiblly first wedding gets ruined as well, that is why Elli talks about beach. I'm sure Elli won't find out that Chuck is spy until very end, from their talk during reception. They are talking way to casually. If Elli knew that Chuck was spy before reception, mood is way to casual.

Also about Shocking Death, I don't think the death must be known by Chuck or Sarah or anybody until next season. I mean nobody figures out that somebody died until next season.

I still hoping that at least Chuck and Sarah start to building some foundation. They have been through way too many rocky road. This is time for highway.