Annie Duke hit it on the head tonight when she said Joan Rivers was a Bi**** . Why in the world would Trump put one of the Rivers woman on let alone both of em. Joan is a washed up has been and her daughter is a spoiled brat. Her daughter would not even be slightly famous if not for her mom. It makes me sick to watch these two go back and forth and cut every one down. Donald would be doing the show a favor by getting rid of both of em. Come on NBC get rid of these no talent woman.

Sorry I totally disagree. I think Annie is a back stabbing two timing witch!!!!
Get rid of that Loud mouth creep!!!!!!! She thinks she's God's gift to the world.

Could not stand her from day one. today proved it even more. She gave no credit to Melissa until they were in the board room about the jewelry & that was only because she had too. It was like pulling her teeth to say Melissa picked out the jewelry.

What a creepy person she is. And she did scream like a mad woman at the poker player on the phone. I thought Natalie was brilliant to give the dude a call. Too bad it didn't work.

And plan on it, she would have done the same thing. She's a poker player.
Annie is a Creep!!!!

Have to agree with you. They are both crazy.I believe all the facelifts they both have had has effected their minds.Who do they think they are? Trump needs to get rid of them fast, I don't think either of them have made any money for charity

Right on!

I'm just like scmarine84. I basically signed up just to comment this one time because the show completely infuriates me (yet again).

You know, I basically quit watching The Apprentice when Trump fired Bradford. When someone is willing to go into the face of fire when he could instead save his own hide, that shows courage and guts. You shouldn't fire someone for that.

Out of curiosity, I decided to give The Apprentice another try today. I CANNOT believe Trump made the same bone headed mistake AGAIN! What are the chances that I would randomly catch an episode where he does that??? He should NEVER have fired Tionne. Tionne showed loyalty and courage by volunteering to go to the boardroom. Those are traits that you should reward not punish!! Trump is NOT a leader and someone I would never want to work for. I hope this gets back to him. It seems like a lot of people feel the same way.

Well, I guess I'm not watching the show anymore yet again... back to Lost and Dollhouse!

I think Joan shouldn't have let her anger get the best of her. Annie is not any where near Hitler (her mustache isnt that visible), but I do think Annie lacks integrity, however, so does Piers, and he won last season. I kind of agree with Melissa saying she isnt a bad person, but know how to play the game. The more I watch, the more I feel for Joan; her strengths arent being used and from episode one, her ideas have been ignored.

I used to run an office, and I can tell you that if anyone on my staff had publically referred to another employee, a member of the public, or anyone else as being like Hitler, I would have sat the employee down and told him/her that this completely unacceptable. I would have tried to find out whether the person knew about Hitler and his crimes against humanity. If not, I would have educated the person and informed him/her that a repetition of such comments would result in immediate dismissal. If so, I would have imposed severe disciplinary measures, and seriously considered firing the person for having crossed a line that simply should never be crossed.

This is not to say that I objected to the occasional workplace squabble - they're going to happen, anyway - but comparing a person to someone who was quite possibly the most twisted, evil individual ever to walk the earth goes beyond all bounds of propriety. And it wouldn't matter to me whether the person making the insult was rich or poor, young or old, black or white, Jew or gentile. They'd have to be corrected and disciplined.

So why was Joan allowed to get away with it? For just one reason: because she's good for ratings. Are you going to tune in every week to see what Jesse James has to say? Me either. If Annie had made the same comments about Joan, there's no question in my mind that Annie would have been out the door (assuming the comments would even have been allowed to remain on the show). Because it was Joan, who's (a) Jewish and (b) entertaining, the unacceptable comment was conveniently overlooked. It's a horrible double standard, completely out of place in a business environment.

And so there's no doubt in my mind that Joan, and not Hershel, should have been the one fired. All Hershel did was OK a bad chicken dish. But there's even a better firing candidate than Joan. For allowing so unacceptable a comment to go on the air and not result in the firing of the person who made the comment, the person most deserving of being fired is Donald Trump himself.

OMG! My opinions of Rivers & Brat for forever changed.... Ugh!

Comparing somebody to Hitler went way beyond the boundaries of civilized conversation. For all the fuss, given over Anne's *ahem* kitchen comments, it's a shame that not as many people are outraged over the Hitler comparison. Watching the teaser for next week's episode, I can only hope that Joan is next on the chopping block.

I agree. Donald Trump is a Joan Rivers admirer, so he will put up with her antics to increase ratings. Since the "Hitler remark" was allowed to air, one can only imagine what other hateful remarks Joan has made that were censored out. My opinion of her has gone way down as a result of this show, and I am not alone.

While Joan or Melissa Rivers are not exactly angels, compared to Annie Duke they are. She is quite a piece of work. She is way beyond arrogant and self involved. She believes her opinion is the only opinion, her way is the only way, her ideas are the only ideas, shes always right, your always wrong, need I go on??? I am sorry for the rest of the people around her. Natalie had a terriffic idea to use her "enemies" a against her; Melissa was right, if it would have been Annies' idea it would have been brilliant because it was Natalie's it was awful. Unfortunately I think Annie win, the Donald seems to be blind to her nastiness and overbearing hypocrissy. I really can't stand her. she needs to be taken down a couple dozen knotches

I'm not surprised over the Hitler comment, When you take into concideration Joan's age and the fact she's Jewish. It Should be taken w/ a grain of salt, Look how she stated her hatred for Clint Black and now he's ok again. Joan & Melisa both need to be fired, for being annoying. I loved the bj comment by Annie and thought they should have marketed that as their dessert.lol (it sure beats dinner & a movie)
Amazing how Clint keeps dodging the bullet, He's as annoying as Melisa everything revolves around what they want, and their look at me, look what I did attitudes. It gets under my skin when their ego's compromise what little integrity they have. Clint's idea for marking was him and his bus. I think there marking plan should have been a brochure w/ Joan driving a Schwan's truck w/ a caption along the lines of her saying "if your cooking is as horrible as mine, let schwan's deliver healthy meals to you". on the cover and inside healthy meal choices (not just one meal, especially Clint's wifes recipe, which nobody cared for until Joan "I can't cook" suggested to add OJ)
I was really surprised Joan & Melisa didn't do a Schwan's commercial at the end of the show.

I totally disagree. When all is said and done, this is a game show, and Annie is using her poker game playing skills to take the actions she feels are needed to benefit her charity. She has not resorted to cheap shots like calling her opponents Hitler. I do concede that Annie is strong-willed and likes getting her way, but she has remained relatively calm, while Joan self destructs in a sea of name calling, self-centered tirades, and hateful comments. I also disagree about Donald Trump "being blind" to what is going on. He knows exactly what he is doing. He is a big Joan Rivers fan, and could care less about Annie Duke, but he knows that the conflict increases the show's sagging ratings. I predict that he will keep both around until the very end, finding lame excuses to fire others (as he has for the past several weeks). Can you imagine an Annie vs. Joan showdown in the Grand Finale? This is what Donald Trump is orchestrating.

Maybe Joan just wanted to remind everyone that today is Hitler's birthday.... I could not believe she said that! I couldn't be more sick of the Rivers! Joan's mad because Annie's playing better than anyone. She never knows who to be mad at, now she's pals with Clint. I think she should have gone because she packed her bags last week. That's a quit, and less serious than what T-Bone did. THAT was a mistake, she didn't mean what Trump thought she meant.

She did not compare her to hitler. She made a statement after Trump said Annie seems sweet etc. and Joan said "so was Hitler!! Meaning, don't judge a book by its cover.

Joan tells it like it is and Annie does it behind your back! I love Joan! She has the most talent then all of them. So what, Annie has a ton of rich poker players! That's her ACE in the hole!
I think she is nasty and plays dirty. Will she win it all? She cerainly knows it all! I think she will win, cause EVIL TRUMPS fair & professional!!

I can think of several adjectives to describe Joan's outrageous behavior and tantrums, but "fair" and "professional" are not among them. How about "loud", "obnoxious", "self-centered" and "angry". She is constantly criticizing everyone, and should have been allowed to quit the show, as she threatened to do in one of her little tantrums, and likely would have, were it not for the fact that Donald Trump likes her so much and wants her around to increase the show's sagging ratings. Had anyone other than Joan made the "Hitler" remark (which was clearly directed at Annie despite Joan's fans' effort at damage control), they would likely have been kicked off the show immediately, or at least the offensive comment would have been censored. I suspect that such offensive remarks are just the tip of the iceberg and that Joan makes even nastier comments that we are not allowed to see.

While Annie is certainly no angel, "nasty" and "evil" are not adjectives that immediately come to mind when describing her. She is certainly strong willed, and is definitely a game player that strategizes to achieve her objectives, but she does not resort to tantrums and name calling the way that Joan does. Donald will likely keep her around to confront Joan one last time in the grand finale.

Compare the resumes:

Annie:

Cooking, poker, mother, good BJs, raised money for refugees, beyond vain, ruthless

Joan:

Drama queen, mother, directed Rabbit Test, was sort of funny 40 years ago

Hitler:

Painter, Public speaker, effective NCO, Crushed France in 6 weeks, really bad boyfriend, historic monster, created millions of refugees.

Why the time spent on Annie giving the representative from "her"charity the check - does that happen ever single week? This season's show should be called the "Let's Introduce Angel Annie To All Of You Out There Who Are Not Following The Poker Scene."

I never heard of the woman before and don't care to ever again.... can not see any possibility of her not being the grand winner though. Reminds me of the saying "Good Guys Finish Last" They may not always finish last, but they sure don't finish first (example: Hershel Walker!).

No, she referred to Annie with the full intent of calling her a Nazi. She has done this before to other celebrities. She called Heidi Klum a Super Nazi. She was dropped by AOL for her Nazi remarks. There is NO EXCUSE for this behavior. She would have been fired immediately in any other workplace.

Joan Rivers isn't even a has-been comic; she is a never was. Not funny and one wonders why she is tolerated by the entertainment industry. Methinks she is more upset by being out-played by Annie. It is time for her and her spawn to be sent home.

Joan is upfront about her feelings regarding Annie.
Just wait until Annie turns her poker sharp eyes towards Brandee when it gets to that point. Joan will have called it all along.

I totally agree with everything pjomoe wrote. Granted, the Hitler remark was over the top and Joan has gotten a little worked up at times, but Annie has disgusted me more and more with each episode. She has been so overbearing on her tasks that it is not pleasant to watch her at all. I agree with Melissa when she said that Annie is two-faced. She is so sweet and has the happy face on in the boardroom and then like this week, she gets in the room with the other contestants and the angry face comes out and she is just nasty. She did talk badly about Brande and then, when she needed someone in her corner, she treats her like they've been BFFs. Ruthlessness is not a good quality. She overtalks everyone and pushes her own agenda until everyone else gives up. She has to have her finger in everything that is going on. The way she spoke to/screamed at her "friend" on the phone was appalling. And the way she kept touting herself and everything she did ("The chefs were amazed at my knife skills") in the kitchen showed a truly pathetic need for attention/recognition.

They pointed out that her friends were the ones that showed up for the auction. Based on her reactions and what she has said to others, I think they may just have been terrified of the consequences if they hadn't shown up. If she makes it to the end and wins, I will truly be sickened. I agree with someone else above who posted that this show really proves the "Nice guys finish last" adage.

If I was the other poker player who she blew her cork off at I would have laughed and contributed to the other team.

i think annie would crush joan. it shoulda been annie vs natalie but it's about the money

I agree with you about Joan appearing to be angry. But can you imagine feeling betrayed by someone who you believe is on your team? Joan Rivers is a wonderful human being, with a sometimes raunchy and shocking sense of humor, yes. Look at what she's dealing with in Annie, a self proclaimed BEEP-JOB artist that has major penis envy. Sorry but manipulation and threats don't make a good business leader, listening does. Joan listens and says what she believes is true, and then tries to restrain herself from the stupidity of others around her, 'hello, it's like everyone took the Annie Kool-Aid and never looked back. Sickening. Annie does'nt deserve to be grouped in with Hitler, however. She's more like Lizzy Borden in the family.

First post, I am embarrassed I gave in.

I didn't know Annie until this show. She is playing a game and playing it to win. Joan is just a little too protective over her daughter, I realized it when she made the "she is a musher" comment about Claudia. Getting all upset if anyone says anything but praise against Melissa. The throwing of her champaign glass, the calling Annie Hitler. Joan being Jewish should be embarrassed she compared a person playing a game to win the name of a man who tried to exterminate a whole race. Pretty much an insult to any survivor or victim of the holocaust or any soldier who fought to liberate the world from Hitler. It would have been in bad taste to say it in jest, Joan went beyond that, it wasn't in jest. Rarely do you see a person with such seething hatred as Joan gave. If looks could kill Annie would be a shriveling corpse.
That said, I think Annie is the smartest player and will probably win, although Jesse is my favorite, he doesn't seem to have the heart to crush people if needed. He isn't a "musher" either.
Joan should cut the apron strings although it is ratings gold. I am also embarrassed I am watching this but I do think Donald Trump is very entertaining when he talks be it on tv or radio and face it, this show is great and I never watched a show like this until now.

Go Annie, you also got bonus points in my book for knowing Scott Ian.

Joan and Annie aren't on the same team. Joan is being a little sneaky herself and it didn't work. Oopsy.

I agree with you. Why does the Donald keep asking Joan whom should be fired - that tell you he for her. I agree Annie need to learn how to be cool. What I would have done when I found about Natalie - is told Phil H. to let her know he would help her and not. Also, I would had let the phone call be "fake" call where she was telling off Phil and he wouldn't help Annie & still help Natalie. That's how I would be mean & sneaky. She gave away her hand. I thought she knew how to buff.

PJOMOE your absolutely correct. Annie is a complete nightmare. My buddy and I are watching the show and we can't stand her either. Everything you said is true. I sincerely hope Donald Trump reads this blog and know's Annie is not a true professional. Joan just can't hide her feelings and thats why she appeared so upset and up and down at moments. She has a heart of gold. Watch Joan, she listens and get's it, she tried to include others with the team. She is not an isolationist or person who is trying to pull other people down, at least not without a damn good reason. Notice that she has forgiveness for her moment with Clint? The sign of a truly divine person. I make no excuses. I love Joan Rivers.

When you say 2 people share a common trait, then you are comparing them with each other.

Annie will fail.

Perhaps, but not without a fight.

P.S.

So will Joan.

By 'fail' you mean 'prevail' right? Annie is incredible! I think she will probably make it to the final two.
She is definately arrogant, stubborn, and cutthroat. And she has good reason to be. Annie is very smart and well-educated. She is a proud mom. She is a leader in her field. Not only is she a successful poker player, she fights sexism in the poker world. Her ideas on the show have generally been well thought out and successful. Annie rocks in the boardroom. She leaves all the drama outside the door. You may call this two-faced but I call it appropriate. Either way though, this is tv and, in my opinion, very, very far from reality.

I'm thinking Joan will be fired next week. I feel that her erratic behavior, emotional outbursts, and rude comments will cease to be tolerated.

Could you imagine the difference if say Clint Black had thrown his glass down in anger? Joan is screaming angry every week. If you don't go out of your way to make Melissa look good you are evil. Give me a break.


Go Annie.

Annie is as fake as Joans face!!!!! She IS two-faced, it's all on camera, and I like Brande, I hate to see Annie do her that way. Joan is wonderful and I think she is right on the money when she talks about Annie!

Joan is one calculating devil. I saw her use the same guilt trip on the Larry King show to a caller she disagreed with.
Annie is one smart,yet competent lady. I hope she embarassed the
heck out of that stiched up ugly face of Joan's. She's an unethical
throw them to the wolve4s devil.
A nice touch,tho.isnt Melissa smarter than Joan,it seems so.
When she really steps out of her mother's shadow, she'll be terrific.

How is Annie fake? By working with Brande to get a project done? By praising her when needed? What should she do? Should she be putting Brande down and telling Brande she will step on her throat when needed? Just like the real world business, you are nice to your cohorts yet you want to be the one on top no matter what happens.

Joan isn't fake, she is right out there with her outrageous rants and prissy temper tantrums. My wife and I watch it together and she always liked the Rivers girls but can't believe the behavior of both of them. It is obvious that Joan has made sure Melissa got anything she wanted in life and heaven help those that wouldn't do everything under the sun necessary to make sure spoiled Melissa got it. You cross Melissa and you will feel the wrath of Joan. You will either be called a musher or Hitler. LOL.

I have said it before and will say it again, cut the apron strings Joan, Melissa will have to fend for herself sometime.

I believe that a transcript of the Larry King show you are referring to can be found at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0007/27/lkl.00.html. Joan had been suspended from her own show for swearing, and on the Larry King show she blamed this on a rookie technician, who in Joan's opinion should have been more alert to bleep the offensive "s word", because her foul mouth is well known (numerous examples of this can be found by surfing the Internet). Then on the Larry King show, she proceeded to call a guest a "white Facist". Joan Rivers is very much the sterotypic foul mouthed school yard bully, and when she does not get her way and someone actually stands up to her (with a smile on her face like Annie does), a name-calling tirade appears to be her only defense. Annie is not the first person Joan has called a Nazi (see other posts for the Internet link). Annie is NOT an angel, but as a game player, she is a real pro, and by getting under Joan's skin, the "real" Joan Rivers is revealed. I do not like what I see.

There is no longer any doubt about what Joan Rivers meant by her "Hitler remark". Check out
http://twitter.com/JoanRiversQVC, where Joan states that "I just compared Annie to Hitler and I feel terrible. My apologies to Hitler." This is her idea of a joke, but I do not find her saying that Annie is WORSE than Hitler funny at all, any more than I do the many other comments she has made (see numerous examples on the Internet) labeling people she disagrees with as "Nazi's". What is wrong with this woman! Unfortunately, Donald Trump is apparently intimidated by Joan's antics (and recognizes that they increase ratings), or he would have fired her long ago. Look for Joan vs. Annie in the finale; I will be pulling for Annie.

I question that statement. The Joan Rivers I have watched on this show is not a nice person.



It was meant to be funny. Think of the song "I am woman" and you might get the drift. It was certainly funnier than any thing coming out of Joan Rivers mouth.

I AM OUTRAGED. DONALD TRUMP SHOULD HAVE FIRED JOAN IMMEDIATELY. Hitler was NOT two-faced in his program of genocide where he planned the successful murder of SIX MILLION JEWS. He created concentration camps where ten thousand Jews were burned alive in huge gas ovens every single day for over a year! How could Joan be so ignorant to compare Annie to that!!! Joan, You're FIRED!!!!!!

Most of these "celebrities" have the most incredibly huge egos! Out of this year's contestants, Annie (who I'd never heard of before) REALLY takes the cake.

I like Joan - she's funny, smart, kind-hearted, and has integrity. She brings good ideas to the projects but doesn't insist on "her way" or "no way". However, she definitely has anger management issues. I don't think she would have lost her temper nearly as much if Melissa had never been a participant. She really does go overboard in order to protect Melissa. Same as another poster, I also think Joan's Hitler comment, was more about "not judging a person by their cover" meaning that Annie's not as sweet as she "appears." Anyway, I didn't take it to mean Annie is literally another Hitler.

As for Annie - she's smart, extremely overbearing, lacks integrity, and is a master manipulator. Her ego knows no bounds. She steam-rollers her team members on every single point of every single project, whether she's project manager or not. I tend to not like someone like this. Unlike Piers (sic?), I do not believe the ends justify the means - even when it comes to charities. But I guess since someone like Piers won last year, it could happen for Annie also. I HOPE NOT!

I hope Joan wins!

I have lost any respect i had for donald trump ,i was an admirer of the man and always respected his tough non biased decisions but his kiddy gloves treatment of joan rivers who i think probably has early alzheimers ( yes im a dementia specialist) who has gone way over the edge and clearly should have been fired is disgusting

Joan rivers crying when someones going to be fired ,her irrational verbal attacks on almost everyone including clint black ,annie ,brande suggests a crazy or demented person

For Donald Trump of all people to pay more attention to ratings than ethics is disgusting and reveals a bit more about his personality than what we saw all this time ,maybe its time for a more objective person than joan kiss-@@@ donald to take over the show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_7VFoHjE5c

Looks like Joan likes comparing lots of people to Nazi's.

Folks, I know what was said on the episode. It doesn't change the rules of this PG13 forum. Please stop with the sexually graphic posts.

Trumps only concern are the ratings of a show that is loosing its appeal. Remember the last celebrity apprentice when he allowed Omarosa to spew her venon at Piers. Trump never chastised her and kept her on as long as he could. Joan Rivers and her obnoxious daughter should both be fired, at a double elimination .. Now that is something I love to see.

Joan Rivers is too much of commodity for the likes of Donald Trump to get his hands on, not to mention that she is self-supporting, doesn’t need Trump and would only be the worse off for it. Annie win-at-any-cost Duke, on the other hand, is right up Trump’s alley, and for that, Duke should win. But that’s because Duke is a different kind of commodity, the one who will do “whatever” it takes to win.

I’ll keep watching the show, though, because I want Annie Duke to win. After all, Donald Trump is like the guy who keeps walking farther and farther out, telling the fool, ‘hey, keep following me, it’s all glitz and glam.’ The problem is the fool will soon fall into the money pit—straight to hell. I can’t imagine Joan Rivers falling into that pit, and I understand her emotions getting the better of her, even though this is probably all “made for TV.” But that’s the beauty of it … the whole idea that the Devil is real and has his followers and will even go so far as to use charity as enticement. And that’s why Joan comparing Duke to Hitler is right on. In the end, though, it’s only a show. I just can’t believe most of the posts her actually fall for it and root Annie Duke on. Disturbing to say the least.

Some folks apparently still don't get it. Joan's Hitler remark was NOT intended to mean that "Annie's not as sweet as she appears". It was intended to compare Annie literally to Hitler. Joan makes this absolutely clear on http://twitter.com/JoanRiversQVC, where she states that "I just compared Annie to Hitler and I feel terrible. My apologies to Hitler." So in Joan's view, Annie is actually WORSE than Hitler. Her characterizations of various people as "Nazis" or "Facists" are well known, but I for one do not find any of them funny. It is a shame that Joan's efforts at "humor" have sunk so low.

I like Joan. But I did not like her personal attacks on Annie, particularly the Hitler comment. It was way over the line. I stopped watching this show some seasons back because I don't respect Donald Trump or the back stabbing. But that is what gets ratings. Look at what he did to T-Boz and Chloe. And believe you me, I can't stand the Kardashians or drivers who drink but I love him getting on his moral high horse. Remember his comments about Rosie O'Donnell?! The board room is a farce--its about surprises, drama, cursing, ect, again for ratings. If he was about anything else (and don't say its only about who raises the most money), Piers would not have won last season. When it comes to the celebrity shows it is about who is the biggest ass and draws the most attention to the show. So while I don't like Joan's behavior recently I will wish her the best because I do think she is a big hearted woman-but once again I'll not be watching next season-same ole, same ole, boring!

throwing my 2 cents in here and this is a broad general comment, so don't think it's directed at you if anyone on these boards...it's not.

Here's why I get why Joan said what she said. There was a time in history when people thought that Hilter was good for germany before the first world war. There was a time when people thought that there would be unification and honor and all the name of the country would be seen as the super power it had been. So history has shown us that well he failed the first time and turned even more twisted and did horrible horrible things that shouldn't be taken lightly. I think the comparrison was clouded but what I worked out was, she looks good, sounds good and people follow her blindly but people don't see the agenda she has working in her mind and she see's no problem using and or stepping on others. People should be wary of her when it comes to her getting what she wants. that's what I took out of it, not that annie is hilter or anything stupid like that.
And if Joan, continues to make jokes about it, cause people are giving into uproar then everyone is fueling the fire for her and that's more publicity for her and annie.
I personally wouldn't go around calling people names like that I stick to the good old fashioned ones

Annie, I think has little thought for how her comment will be taken. She's a adult and can say an do what she wants and it's her alone that bares that burden of having to explain herself to anyone(family, friends or business partners) over her tactless comment.

Both Women threw low blows IMO. One name called, the other made herself look head shakingly terrible.

But I still am rooting for Joan to do well in the tasks. I believe she's trying not only to just raise money but to show she can do the work as well. As all others are doing.

Suesue...I agree with you

Actually, that is a very good point. We all know that Joan has a huge ego, loves publicity, and never makes mistakes. However, in light of the widespread negative reaction to her insensitive Hitler remark, the mature thing would have been for her to say (agreeing with some bloggers) that No, she did not really mean to literally compare Annie to Hitler; she was just trying to make a point.

Instead, she took the opposite approach, making it clear that such a comparison WAS her intention, and then adding fuel to the fire by apologizing to Hitler!

By the way, Annie's father is Jewish, which makes Joan's remark all the more hateful.