ROKESHA
Apr 22 2009, 03:17 PM
i like that Ali is clear about how she is playing Sami - as frustrated with not being able to tell EJ the truth about Grace - but definitely having romantic feelings for one man who she is going to confront rather than manipulate [cough, cough what she does to EJ all the time] Rafe Bring on the Safe lovin'. sami is spoken she is so not in love With Ej even though ej thinks that sami is love with because she had to cover so she changed her mind about telling him about grace so happy safe is coming
calicocat
Apr 22 2009, 04:50 PM
Well i agree she doesn't love him hasn't Mentioned it Yes she keeps saying she has Feelings for him I mean he is the Father of Johnny so they do have a Connection but Love No. I haven't heard her Tell him I love you yet, tho i have heard others mention that she's In love with him But not her personally... But then again Who knows where this is Going to go with them????
Little_Rock
Apr 22 2009, 05:00 PM
I haven't seen today's epi although some are repeating what Sami said to EJ, does he think that she's STILL in love with him? So apparently Sami was under the impression that she was.
bowiehs
Apr 22 2009, 05:02 PM
of course she is going to deny it, sami is madly in love with Ej her actions show she is.
SafeDreamin
Apr 22 2009, 05:19 PM
QUOTE (calicocat @ Apr 22 2009, 05:50 PM)

Well i agree she doesn't love him hasn't Mentioned it Yes she keeps saying she has Feelings for him I mean he is the Father of Johnny so they do have a Connection but Love No. I haven't heard her Tell him I love you yet, tho i have heard others mention that she's In love with him But not her personally... But then again Who knows where this is Going to go with them????
Brady just told Melanie he didnt think she was in love with Ej any more, they just share a kid. And Ej was making it clear that he WAS in love with her, he still had some feelings for her but that doesnt matter any more, he has moved on.
Hopefully this will be the end of all this flopping around after they get thru all this, and they will move on to a new batch of people to create havoc on,
BLUEYEDMOMMY04
Apr 22 2009, 05:38 PM
Well im going by what i see an to me Sami is in Love with Ej no matter how much she Denies it if she wasn't she would not Care about Ej Moving on with Nicole, she would of never gone to the Church an tried to stop the Wedding,she never would of Fantasized about herself Marrying Ej instead of Nicole when she looked at their Engagement Photo in the Paper, i could keep going on an on with things. Its obvious to Lucas even she Loves Ej still an he knows her Better then anyone also Rafe even sees it thats why he's Hesitant about staying in Salem he's Worried Sami will end up Leaving him down the Road for Ej,even Will her own Son said she dont have the same Feelings for Rafe he does her an Will would know as well. Sami did Admit after Tony Died i Believe it was that apart of her will always Love Ej something she had never Admitted to out loud before. IMO the Actors have to Pimp whatever S/Ls are going on at the time or about to go on if Ali flat out said Sami's in Love with Ej but she does have Feelings for Rafe but she Loves Ej that would Upset Safe Fans especially when their about to go into a Safe S/L just my Opinion tho.
lumimegafan
Apr 22 2009, 05:52 PM
I'll take what the article has to say. It was pretty clear Sami is not in love with Ej anymore. After what he did to Brady and to Philip, I would be very surprised if she didn't see this man for who he is. She has never ever said those three very important little words. I'm very happy about that. I am glad there is finally clarification of this.
FRSTDAYZER
Apr 22 2009, 07:00 PM
This is my take
I was a bit puzzled by the "Still in love" remark .. considering Sami has never admitted to loving EJ .. However I think it was clear she had started to develop feelings for him, Maybe she thought, or even was "Falling" in love. (Up until the moment that Lucas came home) The fact that she could not jump from that bed fast enough said alot.
Sami has low self esteem, and I think she needed to feel loved.
Or maybe it was just the situation she was trapped in that drove her to think she had feelings .. and lets face it EJ was good at playing the Nice guy.. and He loves his child and was good to Ali as well..With Lucas rejecting her I think she tried to make herself feel she could love EJ.. even though he was manipulating everything that happened.. She clearly could not see it .. BUT>> Her instincts were stronger then her "affection"..
So again, I admit she was developing, or *Thought* she had feelings for EJ.
But they were not strong enough to trust him, or fight for him , and for me that says alot.
In the end.. I think she will know that whatever it was she felt or thought she felt. .....It wasnt Love....
oldannie
Apr 22 2009, 07:21 PM
Sami has said part of her would always love EJ and now she said you think Im still in love with you, implying there was love for him and I believe still is. Some have said she never did or could love EJ so I beg to differ. If her only concern was to let him know about Grace and maybe remind him of his parental obligation, she could have jolly well waited till after the wedding to go and make her big announcement, no need to bust her buns to get to the church. If she only wanted him aware of Grace and him, why would she need to stop the wedding, only a woman in love with the about to be groom does that, what else would the purpose be. He can still be a dad no matter what but she really wanted that wedding stopped - think it means she loves him still. Rafe will be her default romance. She could have just let Uncle Mickey break the news to him - and get child support . Nope Sami loves EJ.
Vicky4Mimi
Apr 22 2009, 07:47 PM
ej looked like a fool today trying to imply that Sami loved him. She was appalled by that accusation..and so were a whole lot of fans of the show., The gall of that evil man.
Sami got him told that she does NOT love him. And I was very proud when she told him that she has seen the real him and she is very aware that he had her brother beat up and Phil shot................I LOVED when she told ej that he probably already had a hit on his back and she sure didnt tell ej to be careful and not get shot!! I wish he would get shot--oh man how I wish he would get shot!
But all in all it was a great show. I LOVED yesterday when Sami told ej that he was just as EVIL as his daddy. I'm so happy she agrees with the rest of us that he is EVIL so Very EVIL.
toosh
Apr 22 2009, 07:54 PM
QUOTE (oldannie @ Apr 22 2009, 08:21 PM)

Sami has said part of her would always love EJ and now she said you think Im still in love with you, implying there was love for him and I believe still is. Some have said she never did or could love EJ so I beg to differ. If her only concern was to let him know about Grace and maybe remind him of his parental obligation, she could have jolly well waited till after the wedding to go and make her big announcement, no need to bust her buns to get to the church. If she only wanted him aware of Grace and him, why would she need to stop the wedding, only a woman in love with the about to be groom does that, what else would the purpose be. He can still be a dad no matter what but she really wanted that wedding stopped - think it means she loves him still. Rafe will be her default romance. She could have just let Uncle Mickey break the news to him - and get child support . Nope Sami loves EJ.
The two fan bases will never agree about Sami's true feelings and that is exactly what the writers want. They love keeping all uf us fired up. I hope it doesn't backfire so that fans get tired of all the flip flopping. I also hope that they don't lose a huge number of fans ,especially the EJamis if they don't get what they want. The writers have dug themselves into a bottomless pit, IMO.
SAFErocks
Apr 22 2009, 08:04 PM
It's always the same ol discussion...she loves him, she loves him not. I was glad that Sami told EJ to his face that she doesn't have "loving" feelings for him today. It was great to see him make a fool of himself...and thank the Lord this wedding is over and we don't have to waste our time watching him and Nicole anymore.
I think the article pretty much backed up the fact that Sami has moved on, fabulous!
There will always be argument, one way or the other...the writers always have the fan bases chomping at each other, that's nothing new.
Sweetness2
Apr 22 2009, 08:38 PM
QUOTE (Vicky4Mimi @ Apr 22 2009, 07:47 PM)

ej looked like a fool today trying to imply that Sami loved him. She was appalled by that accusation..and so were a whole lot of fans of the show., The gall of that evil man.
Sami got him told that she does NOT love him. And I was very proud when she told him that she has seen the real him and she is very aware that he had her brother beat up and Phil shot................I LOVED when she told ej that he probably already had a hit on his back and she sure didnt tell ej to be careful and not get shot!! I wish he would get shot--oh man how I wish he would get shot!
But all in all it was a great show. I LOVED yesterday when Sami told ej that he was just as EVIL as his daddy. I'm so happy she agrees with the rest of us that he is EVIL so Very EVIL.
Did Sami actually SAY those exact words to him...did she say I'm not in love with you?
Miniminx_SAFEFan
Apr 22 2009, 08:39 PM
QUOTE (SAFErocks @ Apr 22 2009, 08:04 PM)

It's always the same ol discussion...she loves him, she loves him not. I was glad that Sami told EJ to his face that she doesn't have "loving" feelings for him today. It was great to see him make a fool of himself...and thank the Lord this wedding is over and we don't have to waste our time watching him and Nicole anymore.
I think the article pretty much backed up the fact that Sami has moved on, fabulous!
There will always be argument, one way or the other...the writers always have the fan bases chomping at each other, that's nothing new.
Yep - I couldn't agree more! They will *all* keep us on the hook and tell us all sorts of things without actually telling us anything at all for as long as we all will chat about it and watch the show. That is how they all keep their job

EJ looked like an arrogant fool today - and only minutes after marrying another woman. They hadn't even exited the church yet!
I know Ejami fans are looking for something to read into what happened but 'perceived' meaning means nothing - especially where Sami is concerned. If she wanted EJ she could have had him in every single way we can think of right there in that church and he would have given all of himself over to her gladly. She doesn't want him. If she did, she would have made her move. The only reason this was so darned important to tell during the wedding is because the writers want to keep us all on the hook. I personally found it very annoying and the Ejole wedding went on *far* too long.
Sami Brady is a woman of action and gets what she wants by hook or crook. That has never been EJ. When she looks EJ straight in the face, big blue eyes and all and says that she loves him and wants him, then I will believe it. She did say that part of her would always love EJ - and since they have a child together (2 actually) that is completely reasonable to say. I love plenty of people and would go to great lengths to help them out if I thought they needed me - that doesn't I am romantically in love with them. There are all sorts of meanings for the word 'love'.
Until then, she has said numerous times and in numerous ways that she
doesn't want him and
is not in love with him - no matter what anyone else wants to 'read in it' or 'imply'. No disrespect meant - just my $0.02.
lumimegafan
Apr 22 2009, 08:40 PM
so the Lumis are also huge and we are still here. That never made us stop watching Days. We love Lucas and Sami in any scene we can get them in though of course we want thema s husband and wife as they should be be4 Ej interloped and ruined everything. Its high time Sami sees him for who he truly is. You rock Sami!
Sweetness2
Apr 22 2009, 08:41 PM
It's funny how some people believe every single word Sami says to EJ that is negative, but refuse to believe that she didn't mean it when she forgave him and wanted to forget "that night"...and never to bring it up again....Go figure.
Miniminx_SAFEFan
Apr 22 2009, 08:48 PM
QUOTE (Sweetness2 @ Apr 22 2009, 08:41 PM)

It's funny how some people believe every single word Sami says to EJ that is negative, but refuse to believe that she didn't mean it when she forgave him and wanted to forget "that night"...and never to bring it up again....Go figure.

Actually, I do believe her when she says she would like to forget about it and not talk about it anymore. That would be what I would want as well.
phatpharm
Apr 22 2009, 08:51 PM
I would have to say when it comes to Sami's "feelings", you cannot believe anything she says. She has never admitted to loving EJ to him or anyone else. And yet it is the second time the writers have had her say something about how she use to be in love with EJ. "Apart of me will always love you" and "You think I still love you"? I guess the writers don't really watch Days. Here is the thing, at this point anything is possible. Sami could get it on with Dr Dan, or better yet she and Nicole (Sicole) could start a relationship and raise Grace and Sydney together. They could have a double ceremony with Dandy and Sicole

).
Sweetness2
Apr 22 2009, 08:59 PM
QUOTE (Miniminx @ Apr 22 2009, 08:48 PM)

Actually, I do believe her when she says she would like to forget about it and not talk about it anymore. That would be what I would want as well.
Hey Miniminx

You are not included in my "some people" comments....you are honest and fair in your posts and debates...I respect that.

Oh, and reasonable as well.
Miniminx_SAFEFan
Apr 22 2009, 09:12 PM
Sweetness - I appreciate all of your posts as well and enjoy chatting with you too

QUOTE
I would have to say when it comes to Sami's "feelings", you cannot believe anything she says. She has never admitted to loving EJ to him or anyone else. And yet it is the second time the writers have had her say something about how she use to be in love with EJ. "Apart of me will always love you" and "You think I still love you"? I guess the writers don't really watch Days. Here is the thing, at this point anything is possible. Sami could get it on with Dr Dan, or better yet she and Nicole (Sicole) could start a relationship and raise Grace and Sydney together. They could have a double ceremony with Dandy and Sicole ).

You are *so* right about that - 100%!
sofasu
Apr 22 2009, 09:37 PM
QUOTE (oldannie @ Apr 22 2009, 08:21 PM)

Sami has said part of her would always love EJ and now she said you think Im still in love with you, implying there was love for him and I believe still is. Some have said she never did or could love EJ so I beg to differ. If her only concern was to let him know about Grace and maybe remind him of his parental obligation, she could have jolly well waited till after the wedding to go and make her big announcement, no need to bust her buns to get to the church. If she only wanted him aware of Grace and him, why would she need to stop the wedding, only a woman in love with the about to be groom does that, what else would the purpose be. He can still be a dad no matter what but she really wanted that wedding stopped - think it means she loves him still. Rafe will be her default romance. She could have just let Uncle Mickey break the news to him - and get child support . Nope Sami loves EJ.
You are spot on. Of course Sami has feeling for EJ, however, with what happened today,
I feel the trust she felt for him has diminished. She said what she said because of what
happened to Phillip, which appalled her. Had Phillip not been shot, the scene would have
unfolded quite differently. Now, EJ is back to step one with Sami where he will have to
change his ways, denounce his father, and try to make amends. The sham of a life like
Stephanos and the ridiculous loveless marriage will drive him to this. It will take time,
but I definitely feel it will happen. Ej has taken the "settle for less" step, and in time
it will grow old. When Nicole's lies and deceit are revealed and he see's Sami's real
motivation in her actions, he will realize his mistake. Will it be too late? I hope not.
Vicky4Mimi
Apr 22 2009, 09:41 PM
QUOTE (lumimegafan @ Apr 22 2009, 09:40 PM)

so the Lumis are also huge and we are still here. That never made us stop watching Days. We love Lucas and Sami in any scene we can get them in though of course we want thema s husband and wife as they should be be4 Ej interloped and ruined everything. Its high time Sami sees him for who he truly is. You rock Sami!
That is right Kim! And Im very proud that Lumi fans are jumping like rats off a sinking ship because we arent getting what we want (right now). I love every scene Bryan and Ali are in together as Lumi. They never disappoint. Lumi's time is coming.
Sami made herself very clear today. She was totally insulted that elvis would EVEN think that she cared for him. She also made it clear that IF had she loved him she would have let him know BEFORE the wedding.
He is such a pathetic loser.
Vicky4Mimi
Apr 22 2009, 09:46 PM
QUOTE (Sweetness2 @ Apr 22 2009, 09:41 PM)

It's funny how some people believe every single word Sami says to EJ that is negative, but refuse to believe that she didn't mean it when she forgave him and wanted to forget "that night"...and never to bring it up again....Go figure.

the things Sami said to ej today were very POSTIVE and I believe each and every word of it.
I may have missed something but as far as I saw YOU were the only one to bring up "that night" in this thread.....go figure.
dorothyg
Apr 22 2009, 09:49 PM
Yeah...it's not easy to tell when anyone is telling the truth anymore...I think a lot of liars reside in Salem, among other things. LOL. I will be happy when she picks one guy( hopefully Ej) but peace should have been made with the fan bases a long time ago , but they have to keep us stringing along and they are probably laughing all the way to the bank by giving each fan base a bone now and then.
Sweetness2
Apr 22 2009, 09:58 PM
QUOTE (Vicky4Mimi @ Apr 22 2009, 09:41 PM)

That is right Kim! And Im very proud that Lumi fans are jumping like rats off a sinking ship because we arent getting what we want (right now). I love every scene Bryan and Ali are in together as Lumi. They never disappoint. Lumi's time is coming.
Sami made herself very clear today. She was totally insulted that elvis would EVEN think that she cared for him. She also made it clear that IF had she loved him she would have let him know BEFORE the wedding.
He is such a pathetic loser.
I believe it was that she was insulted he would think THAT would be the only reason she would come in and stop his wedding....NOT that he thought she cared for him. Also, I do not remember Sami openly denying it when he suggested she still loved him. She acted surprised and danced all around it, but I do not remember her actually SAYING in words that she doesn't love him.
I could be wrong, but I'll go back and watch it again....at this point, I think you are taking it out of context. Like I said...I will watch again to be sure I'm right. If I'm wrong...I'll say I'm wrong.
Sadieq
Apr 23 2009, 08:00 AM
QUOTE (Vicky4Mimi @ Apr 22 2009, 08:47 PM)

ej looked like a fool today trying to imply that Sami loved him. She was appalled by that accusation..and so were a whole lot of fans of the show., The gall of that evil man.
Sami got him told that she does NOT love him. And I was very proud when she told him that she has seen the real him and she is very aware that he had her brother beat up and Phil shot................I LOVED when she told ej that he probably already had a hit on his back and she sure didnt tell ej to be careful and not get shot!! I wish he would get shot--oh man how I wish he would get shot!
But all in all it was a great show. I LOVED yesterday when Sami told ej that he was just as EVIL as his daddy. I'm so happy she agrees with the rest of us that he is EVIL so Very EVIL.
She wasn't appalled but the accusation that she still loved him she was suprised that he knew that she is in love with him.
parrothead1
Apr 23 2009, 08:25 AM
QUOTE (Sadieq @ Apr 23 2009, 09:00 AM)

She wasn't appalled but the accusation that she still loved him she was suprised that he knew that she is in love with him.
That was what I was thinking too! Sami tries to deny/conceal her feelings for EJ, but I think she's pretty transparent in that department!!
JadeDeveraux
Apr 23 2009, 09:16 AM
Sami's reaction to EJ's accusations that she still loves him, made it VERY clear that she does NOT. She was not playing coy, she was not trying to avoid the accusation, she was not hesitant or hinting that she might. She was flat out ANNOYED that he would think such a thing. She was ticked off. No where did her face, her body language, her actions even remotely imply that she was still in love with EJ. NO WHERE. She wasn't "protesting too much", she wasn't looking at him with longing...the girl was angry. Nope, EJ may want to believe she still loves him, but she made it very clear she does not. She may have a soft spot in her heart for him as Johnny's father, but LOVE...nope. Not romantic love. Not at all.
However, when she got home and Will gave her the medal from Rafe, her face, her voice, her slow, sad reaction spoke VOLUMES. Calling his cell phone and finding it disconnected, you could see this truly bothered her. Not in an annoyed kinda way, but in a sad, OMG-what-has-just-happened kinda way. It was starting to sink in that Rafe may be gone for good and you could feel how upset Sami was at the very thought. Sami and Rafe may not be ready to walk down the aisle anytime soon, but you can feel the new, fragile love between them. Both are afraid to say too much too soon, both are scared to jump into a real relationship, but yet, they are drawn to each other.
No. Sami has really made it clear that her heart is no longer with EJ, no matter what he thinks.
Rafe_Sami
Apr 23 2009, 09:28 AM
QUOTE (JadeDeveraux @ Apr 23 2009, 09:16 AM)

Sami's reaction to EJ's accusations that she still loves him, made it VERY clear that she does NOT. She was not playing coy, she was not trying to avoid the accusation, she was not hesitant or hinting that she might. She was flat out ANNOYED that he would think such a thing. She was ticked off. No where did her face, her body language, her actions even remotely imply that she was still in love with EJ. NO WHERE. She wasn't "protesting too much", she wasn't looking at him with longing...the girl was angry. Nope, EJ may want to believe she still loves him, but she made it very clear she does not. She may have a soft spot in her heart for him as Johnny's father, but LOVE...nope. Not romantic love. Not at all.
However, when she got home and Will gave her the medal from Rafe, her face, her voice, her slow, sad reaction spoke VOLUMES. Calling his cell phone and finding it disconnected, you could see this truly bothered her. Not in an annoyed kinda way, but in a sad, OMG-what-has-just-happened kinda way. It was starting to sink in that Rafe may be gone for good and you could feel how upset Sami was at the very thought. Sami and Rafe may not be ready to walk down the aisle anytime soon, but you can feel the new, fragile love between them. Both are afraid to say too much too soon, both are scared to jump into a real relationship, but yet, they are drawn to each other.
No. Sami has really made it clear that her heart is no longer with EJ, no matter what he thinks.
Great post, I completely agree.
Dayspossessed2
Apr 23 2009, 09:40 AM
Sami is hardly done with EJ, she is using Rafe. Rafe is a nice guy and deserves better than he will ever get from her. She is not "available" she has unfinished business with EJ.
luvdayssafe
Apr 23 2009, 09:46 AM
QUOTE (JadeDeveraux @ Apr 23 2009, 10:16 AM)

Sami's reaction to EJ's accusations that she still loves him, made it VERY clear that she does NOT. She was not playing coy, she was not trying to avoid the accusation, she was not hesitant or hinting that she might. She was flat out ANNOYED that he would think such a thing. She was ticked off. No where did her face, her body language, her actions even remotely imply that she was still in love with EJ. NO WHERE. She wasn't "protesting too much", she wasn't looking at him with longing...the girl was angry. Nope, EJ may want to believe she still loves him, but she made it very clear she does not. She may have a soft spot in her heart for him as Johnny's father, but LOVE...nope. Not romantic love. Not at all.
However, when she got home and Will gave her the medal from Rafe, her face, her voice, her slow, sad reaction spoke VOLUMES. Calling his cell phone and finding it disconnected, you could see this truly bothered her. Not in an annoyed kinda way, but in a sad, OMG-what-has-just-happened kinda way. It was starting to sink in that Rafe may be gone for good and you could feel how upset Sami was at the very thought. Sami and Rafe may not be ready to walk down the aisle anytime soon, but you can feel the new, fragile love between them. Both are afraid to say too much too soon, both are scared to jump into a real relationship, but yet, they are drawn to each other.
No. Sami has really made it clear that her heart is no longer with EJ, no matter what he thinks.
ITA Great post. Sami does not love EJ and the look on her face was an appalled and frustrated one not one of love or surprise. If she wanted him she would have gone after him like she has done in the past for the ones she loved but simply i don't believe she was or is in love with EJ. As she does not accept him fully for who he really is a Dimera through and through.
GO SAFE!!!!!
mesagirl
Apr 23 2009, 09:58 AM
I looked at it as a double slam...
She asked EJ if he thought that she was still in love with him...
1) pointing out that obviously that's not why she was there.
2) pointing out to EJ how ridiculous it is for him to think she still loves him, when she never did in the first place.
saved
Apr 23 2009, 10:04 AM
Why did Sami make it a priority to get to that wedding even to the point of making excuses for Graces fever and yet she did not make it a priority to stop Rafe from leaving....
Telling EJ could have waited - Rafe was actually walking out of her life and yet she chose to Run to the wedding hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????
You would think if Sami loved/liked Rafe so much that she would have made him the priority - he was leaving after all. EJ wasn't going anywhere except to becoming "unavailable".
EJ or Rafe .... EJ or Rafe - SAMI PICKED EJ - shocker (NOT)
dayzer
Apr 23 2009, 10:09 AM
QUOTE (toosh @ Apr 22 2009, 08:54 PM)

The two fan bases will never agree about Sami's true feelings and that is exactly what the writers want. They love keeping all uf us fired up. I hope it doesn't backfire so that fans get tired of all the flip flopping. I also hope that they don't lose a huge number of fans ,especially the EJamis if they don't get what they want. The writers have dug themselves into a bottomless pit, IMO.
This is SO true! I think overall Days is getting better, but the bipolar writing of characters HAS to stop. I don't
think I will ever stop watching. But if there were ever a time where I've been angry enough...it would be now. Don't get me wrong. I DO think this is a EJami story. The scenes yesterday with Ej and Sami were so darn cute...but again bipolar writing. When did we EVER hear Sami say she loved EJ...sorry but I would have liked to have been there. I guess the fact is, we are supposed to believe it.
I don't know what article the OP is talking about, but Ali usually only talks about what the present writing is telling her.
What I do know is these writers are not done with EJami.
catmil56
Apr 23 2009, 10:44 AM
Sami has feelings for Ej but realises he's turning out to be like the evil Stefano. Id love to see her and Rafe hook up. That being said, the show has to liven up! Quit getting rid of charactors that fans have loved for ages! Bring on theturf war between dimera and Kiriacas! And, doesn't any one remember when EJ killed that lady cop when he first showed up in Salem?Bring on the 'newevidence!' Bring back John and Marlena! Steve and Kayla! They need to be there to help the bradys when the war heats up! Expose thwe baby switch! Let Sami kick Nicole's butt! Let Nicole see EJ hauled off in cuffs for the cop murder!Let the teenagers stir things up more! Where is Shawn and Belle; how long can two broke kids and a child sail around the world? Wake the writers up. They've built up Stefano to be the devil incarnate, but he's had his horns dulled lately. Bring on the turf war! Bring on the love stories! Resurrect Tony-he's always good for a plot twist. That's my opinion. Thanks for listening!
Little_Rock
Apr 23 2009, 11:59 AM
I agree, Sami would have never raced to the church to STOP the wedding if there wasn't an ulterior motive and only Sami knows what that is. She could have easily waited until things settled down, invite EJ over and have a proper discussion regarding Grace.
Gemini_Gypsy
Apr 23 2009, 12:40 PM
QUOTE (saved @ Apr 23 2009, 10:04 AM)

Why did Sami make it a priority to get to that wedding even to the point of making excuses for Graces fever and yet she did not make it a priority to stop Rafe from leaving....
Telling EJ could have waited - Rafe was actually walking out of her life and yet she chose to Run to the wedding hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????
You would think if Sami loved/liked Rafe so much that she would have made him the priority - he was leaving after all. EJ wasn't going anywhere except to becoming "unavailable".
EJ or Rafe .... EJ or Rafe - SAMI PICKED EJ - shocker (NOT)
Sami didn't make excuses for Grace's temperature.. the doctor diagnosing her over the phone did. And.. She doesn't know yet that Rafe is planning on leaving for good.. the choice your talking about was never presented or made. In Sami's mind she is hoping for a relationship with Rafe. If she did know what he was up to, I am thinking she would have put what she feels she need to tell EJ on the back burner and gone after Rafe.
Sweetness2
Apr 23 2009, 12:50 PM
TIIC are riding the fence on this one.
Sami and EJ's actions show that they have deep feelings for one another, yet their comments completely contradict those actions.
They throw bones to both sides at the same time. I can understand to a certain extent, but they need to be able to keep the s/l's moving along at a decent pace.
This buildup after buildup with no payoff gets tiresome and frustrating.
I honestly believe they do not have a clue as to how to write for a COUPLE.
Once they put a couple together, they either fade into the background or move to another country. All they know how to do is write triangles and who's the daddy s/ls.
It's getting old.
SafeDreamin
Apr 23 2009, 04:54 PM
QUOTE (saved @ Apr 23 2009, 11:04 AM)

Why did Sami make it a priority to get to that wedding even to the point of making excuses for Graces fever and yet she did not make it a priority to stop Rafe from leaving....
Telling EJ could have waited - Rafe was actually walking out of her life and yet she chose to Run to the wedding hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????
You would think if Sami loved/liked Rafe so much that she would have made him the priority - he was leaving after all. EJ wasn't going anywhere except to becoming "unavailable".
EJ or Rafe .... EJ or Rafe - SAMI PICKED EJ - shocker (NOT)
well IF Sami had known Rafe was leaving it would have been very different, she never thought of him leaving till Will gave her the medallion AFTER the wedding and she called him and his phone was disconnected. So Sami DID NOT PICK EJ!!!! over Rafe and never will.
kayc
Apr 23 2009, 05:08 PM
I totally got the point Sami was trying to make yesterday. Too bad EJ still doesn't get it. You can tell Sami really wants to make a go of it with Rafe. I just hope EJ doesn't try to ruin this relationship for her too.
kayc
Apr 23 2009, 05:14 PM
QUOTE (Sadieq @ Apr 23 2009, 09:00 AM)

She wasn't appalled but the accusation that she still loved him she was suprised that he knew that she is in love with him.
Don't know where you got this idea from. Maybe we were watching a different show. WHo knows!
kayc
Apr 23 2009, 05:16 PM
QUOTE (saved @ Apr 23 2009, 11:04 AM)

Why did Sami make it a priority to get to that wedding even to the point of making excuses for Graces fever and yet she did not make it a priority to stop Rafe from leaving....
Telling EJ could have waited - Rafe was actually walking out of her life and yet she chose to Run to the wedding hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????
You would think if Sami loved/liked Rafe so much that she would have made him the priority - he was leaving after all. EJ wasn't going anywhere except to becoming "unavailable".
EJ or Rafe .... EJ or Rafe - SAMI PICKED EJ - shocker (NOT)
It is simple Sami wants to ruin NICOLE'S happiness and if the article about EJ Sami and RAfe is any indication Sami realizes what a mistake she was making and clearly won't be making that mistake again after seeing EJ for who "he really is"
MissSavii
Apr 23 2009, 05:55 PM
Sami has always stated that she wasnt in love with elvis... i mean just weeks before they conceived Sydney (who, remember, is SAMI AND EJS BABY) she told EJ over and over she wasnt in love with him... and then gives into her real feelings and gives us the best soap love scene in soap history.
No
Sami saying she is not in love with EJ is like Stephano saying he aint the baddie
Sweetness2
Apr 23 2009, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (kayc @ Apr 23 2009, 05:08 PM)

I totally got the point Sami was trying to make yesterday. Too bad EJ still doesn't get it. You can tell Sami really wants to make a go of it with Rafe. I just hope EJ doesn't try to ruin this relationship for her too.
EJ will not be able to ruin any relationship Sami is in if she doesn't allow him to. IF she really doesn't want him, there should be no problem from EJ for Sami and Rafe. Sami does as she pleases....so if there are really no feelings for EJ, then Rafe shouldn't worry.
But, I don't think Rafe is worried about EJ....I think he's worried about Sami's feelings for EJ....the feelings she keeps trying to deny, but her actions just make her words hard to believe. Even Lucas knows that!
sofasu
Apr 23 2009, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (JadeDeveraux @ Apr 23 2009, 09:16 AM)

Sami's reaction to EJ's accusations that she still loves him, made it VERY clear that she does NOT. She was not playing coy, she was not trying to avoid the accusation, she was not hesitant or hinting that she might. She was flat out ANNOYED that he would think such a thing. She was ticked off. No where did her face, her body language, her actions even remotely imply that she was still in love with EJ. NO WHERE. She wasn't "protesting too much", she wasn't looking at him with longing...the girl was angry. Nope, EJ may want to believe she still loves him, but she made it very clear she does not. She may have a soft spot in her heart for him as Johnny's father, but LOVE...nope. Not romantic love. Not at all.
However, when she got home and Will gave her the medal from Rafe, her face, her voice, her slow, sad reaction spoke VOLUMES. Calling his cell phone and finding it disconnected, you could see this truly bothered her. Not in an annoyed kinda way, but in a sad, OMG-what-has-just-happened kinda way. It was starting to sink in that Rafe may be gone for good and you could feel how upset Sami was at the very thought. Sami and Rafe may not be ready to walk down the aisle anytime soon, but you can feel the new, fragile love between them. Both are afraid to say too much too soon, both are scared to jump into a real relationship, but yet, they are drawn to each other.
No. Sami has really made it clear that her heart is no longer with EJ, no matter what he thinks.
She wasn't annoyed until she found out Phillip had been shot. Before hearing that, it was
basically a quiet conversation...Nicole didn't even know they were talking and she was in
the next room.
Miniminx_SAFEFan
Apr 23 2009, 06:16 PM
QUOTE (MissSavii @ Apr 23 2009, 06:55 PM)

Sami has always stated that she wasnt in love with elvis... i mean just weeks before they conceived Sydney (who, remember, is SAMI AND EJS BABY) she told EJ over and over she wasnt in love with him... and then gives into her real feelings and gives us the best soap love scene in soap history.
No
Sami saying she is not in love with EJ is like Stephano saying he aint the baddie
Respectfully, that is a very debatable point and I absolutely disagree with you. I won't go into detail because it will just kick off a big thing - and I don't want to insult anyone - but I have never considered the scene in question a good
love scene at all.
The reason we can't all come to a consensus on what Sami's real motives for the timing and pressing need to go tell EJ about Grace during his wedding to Nicole is because, when you get right down to it - it makes no sense at all. Telling EJ about Grace should be a conversation that takes place in private - not in a church vestibule where anyone could walk in at any time. I lay the blame for this at the feet of the writers who are unable to come up with any *real drama*. They are superb at love triangles though - which is becoming rather boring.
Gemini_Gypsy
Apr 23 2009, 06:23 PM
QUOTE (MissSavii @ Apr 23 2009, 05:55 PM)

Sami has always stated that she wasnt in love with elvis... i mean just weeks before they conceived Sydney (who, remember, is SAMI AND EJS BABY) she told EJ over and over she wasnt in love with him... and then gives into her real feelings and gives us the best soap love scene in soap history.
No
Sami saying she is not in love with EJ is like Stephano saying he aint the baddie
Sami gave into her real feelings? Per Sami to EJ while still in bed with him "Hey.. sometimes a girl just needs to have a good time".. she didn't talk about having any feelings for him. Didn't give into anything but being horny and has only referred to it as a mistake since then.
MissSavii
Apr 23 2009, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (Gemini_Gypsy @ Apr 23 2009, 06:23 PM)

Sami gave into her real feelings? Per Sami to EJ while still in bed with him "Hey.. sometimes a girl just needs to have a good time".. she didn't talk about having any feelings for him. Didn't give into anything but being horny and has only referred to it as a mistake since then.
A mistake? Does this make Sydney a mistake? I dont think the word horny is the right word to use... i mean even Marlena could see that Sami was denying any truth for what she felt for EJ ... if she really didnt love, or like EJ at all, why did she help him stay in the country? Even if she did say "im doing it for Johnny", she didnt testify for Lucas to prevent him from going to jail and from being away from Allie.
mesagirl
Apr 23 2009, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (Gemini_Gypsy @ Apr 23 2009, 04:23 PM)

Sami gave into her real feelings? Per Sami to EJ while still in bed with him "Hey.. sometimes a girl just needs to have a good time".. she didn't talk about having any feelings for him. Didn't give into anything but being horny and has only referred to it as a mistake since then.
ICAM.
MissSavii
Apr 23 2009, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (Miniminx @ Apr 23 2009, 06:16 PM)

Respectfully, that is a very debatable point and I absolutely disagree with you. I won't go into detail because it will just kick off a big thing - and I don't want to insult anyone - but I have never considered the scene in question a good love scene at all.
The reason we can't all come to a consensus on what Sami's real motives for the timing and pressing need to go tell EJ about Grace during his wedding to Nicole is because, when you get right down to it - it makes no sense at all. Telling EJ about Grace should be a conversation that takes place in private - not in a church vestibule where anyone could walk in at any time. I lay the blame for this at the feet of the writers who are unable to come up with any *real drama*. They are superb at love triangles though - which is becoming rather boring.
I respect your views and im not looking for a nasty debate either but i still would like to hear your views.
The EJami scene for me was the climax (no pun

) of months of tension and chemistry that was so so obvious to everyone against the union.
I have never seen, except maybe on B&B, so much skin and screen time of sex. it was for me amazing and cemented what i always knew about Sami.
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