OK so we all know that anyone who comes to Salem is related to someone else.
Who could Rafe possibly be related to in Salem? I am really hoping it's not another long lost DiMera.
Anyone have any ideas?
Full Version: Rafe's Past
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I was sort of hoping that Rafe didn't have any relations in Salem other than Arianna. The place could use some new blood!
I will be really put out if he turns out to be another long lost Dimera. That would be beyond ridiculous IMO.
As for who he could be related to....almost anyone really. I am afraid to make any predictions lest I speak them into existence - LOL!
I will be really put out if he turns out to be another long lost Dimera. That would be beyond ridiculous IMO.
As for who he could be related to....almost anyone really. I am afraid to make any predictions lest I speak them into existence - LOL!
That's a good question. Like Minx, I am hoping that he is not related to the other Salem families. His sister has already arrived on canvas so I hope that, like Roman, they will bring the Hernandez family on a little at a time. That is the way the Bradys were introduced after Roman came on as Marlena's "bodyguard". It seems that it would be fitting here if TPTB are intending for SAFE to take over that spot.
QUOTE (dolphin711 @ May 25 2009, 01:02 AM) 
That's a good question. Like Minx, I am hoping that he is not related to the other Salem families. His sister has already arrived on canvas so I hope that, like Roman, they will bring the Hernandez family on a little at a time. That is the way the Bradys were introduced after Roman came on as Marlena's "bodyguard". It seems that it would be fitting here if TPTB are intending for SAFE to take over that spot.
But I really don't want people to be comparing them to Roman and Marlena.
But yes we need new blood on the show.
Maybe we could get more of the Hernandez family in for sure.
I saw it was mentioned somewhere as a suggestion a while ago.....:
How would you feel if he was Ej's cousin, but not on the Dimera side...and Susan's (Elvis' mother) sister was a nun, maybe that's he has connection to the convent. Maybe she decided to resign as a nun when she met a Hernandez guy?
Well if they all were anything like Rafe it would make me resign the convent!
What about Victor or John Black possibly being the father they never knew?? I'd prefer to stay away from Dimera's (and of course Brady's for obvious reasons!).
Some day we will probably find out that Rafe is related to someone in Salem but for now I don't really care. He won't be an evil person even if we find out that he is a Dimera or a Kiriakis.
I don't think that Rafe is going to be psycho or evil. [I know some would like him to be to destroy the safe storyline] he is just not open about his past. Arianna is worried about him getting hurt not about him hurting anyone. Sis Agnes was the same and to date they are the only two characters who seem to really know anything about what kind of man he's been in the past, and both of them are concerned about him.
QUOTE (Mirabella2 @ May 25 2009, 07:19 PM)
Some day we will probably find out that Rafe is related to someone in Salem but for now I don't really care. He won't be an evil person even if we find out that he is a Dimera or a Kiriakis.
If he was he would be another Brady Black!! No he wont be evil or bad, much to the disappointment of a certain group of people. (and besides wouldnt you think that Roman Brady would have ran a background check on the guy!!! ...lol). So he passes the FBI, homeland security and the papa brady test!! lol
I do think this spoiler will turn out to be a bit of a dud as there will be a lot of other stuff going on at the same time, so I cant see them investing a huge amount of time in it with everything else going down at the same time. Sami might actually end up asking Rafe (radical)!!
QUOTE (oldannie @ May 25 2009, 11:13 PM)
I hope he isn't related to anyone or connected to anyone either, we need new blood in this town. I don't want him bad, don't think he will be and I don't think he is creepy, I would just like to know a lot more about him, even a little more would do for starters.
I agree and I think we will start to learn even more about him very soon. Although, I like what I have seen so far!
QUOTE (SafeDreamin @ May 25 2009, 10:51 PM)
If he was he would be another Brady Black!! No he wont be evil or bad, much to the disappointment of a certain group of people. (and besides wouldnt you think that Roman Brady would have ran a background check on the guy!!! ...lol). So he passes the FBI, homeland security and the papa brady test!!
so very true
Remember when Rafe was talking to Will and started to say something about when he was 16? I am wondering and hoping in a way that Grace's baby Daddy will be Rafe's son. But who knows, I am sure at some point Rafe will end up being related to someone.
QUOTE (everhopeful @ May 25 2009, 10:38 PM)
Remember when Rafe was talking to Will and started to say something about when he was 16? I am wondering and hoping in a way that Grace's baby Daddy will be Rafe's son. But who knows, I am sure at some point Rafe will end up being related to someone.
I do remember that - and I think we are going to find out that Rafe grew up in a house without a Dad or his Dad was not a nice guy. Perhaps that could explain Arianna's attitude as well. Not sure if Rafe has children of his own - anything is possible I guess.
ITA with you Annie, I want to know about Rafe's past. The development of that part of his character is long over due! Whatever it is, it hurt him very, very deeply. Rafe, the strong silent type, is also someone who hurts and loves very deeply. He compartmentalizes bad things in order to get on with his life. Should be interesting to find out what happened and see Sami's reaction to it.
QUOTE (Miniminx_SAFEFan @ May 26 2009, 10:17 AM)
I do remember that - and I think we are going to find out that Rafe grew up in a house without a Dad or his Dad was not a nice guy. Perhaps that could explain Arianna's attitude as well. Not sure if Rafe has children of his own - anything is possible I guess.
ITA with you Annie, I want to know about Rafe's past. The development of that part of his character is long over due! Whatever it is, it hurt him very, very deeply. Rafe, the strong silent type, is also someone who hurts and loves very deeply. He compartmentalizes bad things in order to get on with his life. Should be interesting to find out what happened and see Sami's reaction to it.
ITA with you Annie, I want to know about Rafe's past. The development of that part of his character is long over due! Whatever it is, it hurt him very, very deeply. Rafe, the strong silent type, is also someone who hurts and loves very deeply. He compartmentalizes bad things in order to get on with his life. Should be interesting to find out what happened and see Sami's reaction to it.
I agree!
QUOTE (Miniminx_SAFEFan @ May 26 2009, 09:17 AM)
I do remember that - and I think we are going to find out that Rafe grew up in a house without a Dad or his Dad was not a nice guy. Perhaps that could explain Arianna's attitude as well. Not sure if Rafe has children of his own - anything is possible I guess.
ITA with you Annie, I want to know about Rafe's past. The development of that part of his character is long over due! Whatever it is, it hurt him very, very deeply. Rafe, the strong silent type, is also someone who hurts and loves very deeply. He compartmentalizes bad things in order to get on with his life. Should be interesting to find out what happened and see Sami's reaction to it.
ITA with you Annie, I want to know about Rafe's past. The development of that part of his character is long over due! Whatever it is, it hurt him very, very deeply. Rafe, the strong silent type, is also someone who hurts and loves very deeply. He compartmentalizes bad things in order to get on with his life. Should be interesting to find out what happened and see Sami's reaction to it.
Minx, ICAM with your post especially about Rafe being the strong silent type who hurts and loves very deeply. I am so looking forward to learning more about Rafe and we know that is coming up very soon. I also look forward to Sami's reaction to whatever comes to light in Rafe's past.
I think if the writers do it right, the reveal of Rafe's past is going to be really good. Full of drama and is just going to make us all love Rafe even more, hopefully it will make Sami love him even more too!
I can't imagine the writers would be crazy enough to alienate all the new viewers when the show may be in jeopardy.
I can't imagine the writers would be crazy enough to alienate all the new viewers when the show may be in jeopardy.
^ITA with you clearskyez. I am really looking forward to learning about Rafe's past. No way they are making Rafe a dark character. His past is tragic, not evil. Salem has enough dark and evil already.
QUOTE (Miniminx_SAFEFan @ Jun 18 2009, 12:58 AM)
^ITA with you clearskyez. I am really looking forward to learning about Rafe's past. No way they are making Rafe a dark character. His past is tragic, not evil. Salem has enough dark and evil already.
I agee with you all up there. I think he has trajedy in his life. And probably had a choice at one time to be "evil" or not. He scewed up for a while, e.g. the gangs, etc. Then he got his head on straight. He made the choice for the good.
Which makes the character much more sexy for me.
QUOTE (guiness @ Jun 18 2009, 01:35 AM)
I agee with you all up there. I think he has trajedy in his life. And probably had a choice at one time to be "evil" or not. He scewed up for a while, e.g. the gangs, etc. Then he got his head on straight. He made the choice for the good. Which makes the character much more sexy for me.
Which makes the character much more sexy for me.It is pretty obvious that EJ is being groomed for the new Stefano and Philip is getting very gray so it seems good odds that Rafe can be the good guy. The one constantly trying to shut down the bad guys.
QUOTE (Miniminx_SAFEFan @ Jun 18 2009, 12:58 AM)
^ITA with you clearskyez. I am really looking forward to learning about Rafe's past. No way they are making Rafe a dark character. His past is tragic, not evil. Salem has enough dark and evil already.
Exactly! Whatever is in Rafe's past, it will only make Sami (and us) love him more. It won't be evil. No way, no how! Rafe is Sami's hero.
QUOTE (everhopefull @ Jun 18 2009, 08:05 AM)
It is pretty obvious that EJ is being groomed for the new Stefano and Philip is getting very gray so it seems good odds that Rafe can be the good guy. The one constantly trying to shut down the bad guys.
Bingo! That is how things will be.
I found some insight into Rafes past.
http://www.fancast.com/blogs/deep-soap/dee...mer-storylines/
Interview with Felisha Terrell (Arianna)
Terrell was especially excited to join DOOL because the show is her Mom's favorite soap. Terrell revealed she wisely turned down a screen test for the role of Vanessa on One Life To Live. She reveals that we'll see a more fun-loving side of Arianna in upcoming scenes where she, Molly and Brady end up playing strip poker at the Horton cabin. She reveals that Arianna is such an overprotective big sister because of something that she and Rafe experienced as children. Before she became an actress, Terrell worked as a pharmaceutical sales representative. One of the drugs she sold was Cialis. She says, If I had a dollar for every guy who claimed he didn't need it but asked if he could try it out, I'd be rich.
http://www.fancast.com/blogs/deep-soap/dee...mer-storylines/
Interview with Felisha Terrell (Arianna)
Terrell was especially excited to join DOOL because the show is her Mom's favorite soap. Terrell revealed she wisely turned down a screen test for the role of Vanessa on One Life To Live. She reveals that we'll see a more fun-loving side of Arianna in upcoming scenes where she, Molly and Brady end up playing strip poker at the Horton cabin. She reveals that Arianna is such an overprotective big sister because of something that she and Rafe experienced as children. Before she became an actress, Terrell worked as a pharmaceutical sales representative. One of the drugs she sold was Cialis. She says, If I had a dollar for every guy who claimed he didn't need it but asked if he could try it out, I'd be rich.
I think that Rafe has forced himself to be this cool, calm, and collected person that we have seen so far in order to deal with whatever has happened in the past. Now with Grace dying, he's mad at God and he feels this was all so unfair, and that is why I think his angry side is going to come out, which will lead to the whole story of his past coming out. His being angry is probably his original true personality that he had as a gang member and that Sister Agnes helped him with when she straightened him out. Now if it comes out again I think it will be up to Sami to help him work through it. God knows he's done a lot to help her and now it's her turn. I think this will only make their relationship stronger and more committed, because they will know they can always count on each other.
I agree with everyone!!! Whatever is in Rafe's past, he and Sami will work through it...I think they are so great together and love each other so much...there isn't anything they can't work through...I can't imagine hm being mad at Sami for more than a second and especially not bringing "his wrath on her"..It will be interesting to see how this all plays out but we know that SAFE will prevail!!!
QUOTE (sherrybu3 @ Jun 21 2009, 06:58 PM)
I agree with everyone!!! Whatever is in Rafe's past, he and Sami will work through it...I think they are so great together and love each other so much...there isn't anything they can't work through...I can't imagine hm being mad at Sami for more than a second and especially not bringing "his wrath on her"..It will be interesting to see how this all plays out but we know that SAFE will prevail!!!
Welcome to the SAFE House. Glad you could join us.
I hope Rafe isn't related to anyone we know in Salem and I am curious about who Emily Hudson was but I don't think Rafe is bad. I think something happened to him and he is blaming himself for Emily's death but only time will tell. Just want Rafe and Sami to stay together even though baby Grace died. With Rafe and Sami you never know if you will be laughing or crying they are so great together. Keeps me watching everyday don't want to miss them. Alison and Galen are doing a great job with their characters.
So, after today's Canadian episode, I am thinking that Arianna is the reason Emily died....or at least she is deeply involved in the reason Emily died. Perhaps Rafe was trying to protect Arianna and Emily got caught in the middle - thus the falling out they had and the reason why Arianna is so desperate to have Rafe keep quiet about Emily. Still doesn't explain Arianna's jealousy (not sure how else to describe it) toward Sami.
Anyone else have any theories? They have built Rafe's past up and now I am dying to know what happened!
Anyone else have any theories? They have built Rafe's past up and now I am dying to know what happened!
I agree with your theory. After the Canadian eppy it is definitely looking like Arianna is the reason Rafe is keeping the secret about Emily. She is definitely heavily involved with whatever happened to Emily and she seems to be afraid that Rafe will tell her/their secret. At the end though she did say that she knew that Rafe loved Sami and that he was trying to protect her. So, it also sounds like Sami could be in danger if she knew the whole truth. Very interesting, intriguing back story for our Rafe. I can't wait until it all comes out.
QUOTE (dolphin711 @ Jul 3 2009, 09:19 PM)
I agree with your theory. After the Canadian eppy it is definitely looking like Arianna is the reason Rafe is keeping the secret about Emily. She is definitely heavily involved with whatever happened to Emily and she seems to be afraid that Rafe will tell her/their secret. At the end though she did say that she knew that Rafe loved Sami and that he was trying to protect her. So, it also sounds like Sami could be in danger if she knew the whole truth. Very interesting, intriguing back story for our Rafe. I can't wait until it all comes out.
According to a spoiler I just read Emily died in a car crash, when Rafe was driving. Said to come out, week of July 27th. But the real question is how is this mysterious, unless, someone hit or ran them off the road. He had been drugged. Or the car had been tampered with. I still think Ari or Meridith is somehow envolved.
QUOTE (bigrafefan @ Jul 22 2009, 04:11 AM)
According to a spoiler I just read Emily died in a car crash, when Rafe was driving. Said to come out, week of July 27th. But the real question is how is this mysterious, unless, someone hit or ran them off the road. He had been drugged. Or the car had been tampered with. I still think Ari or Meridith is somehow envolved.
Hi bigrafefan, welcome to the boards and to the SAFE House! Glad you found us!
I don't know exactly what will happen but Rafe is not going to be the bad guy as some others are hoping. Someone most likely tampered with the car or even drugged Rafe or something like that. The mystery may not turn out to be as big as the build up, which is not uncommon on soaps. We will see.
rumour at Day's cafe as many of us have suspected
crash caused by one of Rafe's enemies
http://www.dayscafe.com/rumors-luxury.html
(I still suspect Meredith ...jealous ..etc I feel like I ought to say Ms scarlet in the kitchen with the knife ...lol...)
crash caused by one of Rafe's enemies
http://www.dayscafe.com/rumors-luxury.html
(I still suspect Meredith ...jealous ..etc I feel like I ought to say Ms scarlet in the kitchen with the knife ...lol...)
I'm not the most attentive TV watcher, since I tend to multitask and do other things while I'm watching. I was assuming that Rafe spend time as an "orphan" at the convent when he was a kid. But maybe I missed something.
He and Arianna seem to have the relationship siblings have when they're in an unstable home with unstable parents or shuffled around, so it's just them taking care of each other.
He and Arianna seem to have the relationship siblings have when they're in an unstable home with unstable parents or shuffled around, so it's just them taking care of each other.
QUOTE (HAS @ Jul 22 2009, 02:25 PM)
I'm not the most attentive TV watcher, since I tend to multitask and do other things while I'm watching. I was assuming that Rafe spend time as an "orphan" at the convent when he was a kid. But maybe I missed something.
He and Arianna seem to have the relationship siblings have when they're in an unstable home with unstable parents or shuffled around, so it's just them taking care of each other.
He and Arianna seem to have the relationship siblings have when they're in an unstable home with unstable parents or shuffled around, so it's just them taking care of each other.
yes, i think that will be part of the past, I have always suspected more than one element at play here and recent interview by galen hints at more than one issue in the past
http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/Hero+Worsh...g_NB.htm?isfa=1
i read galen intereview he said that there something intersting stuff coming up in the sami/rafe/Ej traingle what do you think it is .
Also the spoilers for week of the august sami confronts rafe i hope to god that sami is not doubting him
Also the spoilers for week of the august sami confronts rafe i hope to god that sami is not doubting him
where is everyone the board is so dry
QUOTE (SafeDreamin @ May 25 2009, 08:15 PM)
What about Victor or John Black possibly being the father they never knew?? I'd prefer to stay away from Dimera's (and of course Brady's for obvious reasons!).
That would be intriguing BUT we (literally) need new bloodlines in this town. Like explaining how Brady is now related to Sami. "Why he's her step-brother...and a close cousin." So how is Bell related to Sami, "Why they're hald sisters and close cousins." LOL
What I'd like to see if Rafe pappa was a bad*ss and aligned with Victor. Before his Dad died he made Voc swear to watch out for Rafe and Ari. And now Vic has to "live up" to his promise with the Dimera's messing with him.
QUOTE (ROKESHA @ Jul 22 2009, 04:43 PM)
i read galen intereview he said that there something intersting stuff coming up in the sami/rafe/Ej traingle what do you think it is .
Also the spoilers for week of the august sami confronts rafe i hope to god that sami is not doubting him
Also the spoilers for week of the august sami confronts rafe i hope to god that sami is not doubting him
Where did you read the August spoiler, I've looked everywhere for it.
Of course Sami is doubting that's her personality. The question is what should Rafe do- Tell her everything, which is possibly the wreck was caused by Ari, her boyfriend or both, and to protect Ari he covered it up and resented Ari for it. Keep it to himself and continue to protect Ari, even though I think she's up to something. And last and certainly not least, at this is coming from a major Safe fan, dump Sami. Why? maybe she's just not good enough for him. The fact is she's a lyer, munipulator, and sometimes stupid. Expecially concerning EJ, the rapist, attepted to murderer, kidnapper, munipulator, controller of women, torturer, and all around SOB, with a conscience-- hey maybe Sami should take him back he sounds like such a catch.
So what is Rafe's past-- Here's is my belief
His other side is one of tenderness and excessive pain.
A former gang banger rescued by Sister Agnes.
Abused possibly, by his father, and who tried to rescue his mother from him and failed.
His sister, a former gang banger, was not easily rescued by Sister Agnes and because of that he has ran around with a net for years trying to save his sister.
Unlucky in love, but lucky in brains, watch out Sami he may lead with his heart but he isn't stupid.
Dangerous but not in a bad, he's just got a violent streak when push comes to shove, watch out EJ.
By the way who does he remind you of, not Roman, yes definitely JOHN BLACK.
Related to someone in Salem? maybe the Reed kids. You know Austin and Billie. Kate's kids. Maybe he's Curtis Reed's son, Kate's abusive ex-husband.
Or maybe he's kin to the Toscanas, you know Isabella-aka-Brady's mother remember the wine Sami and him drank at the spoiled picnic, that's what kind of wine it was. Or maybe Emily was kin to them.
Just felt the need to vent.
Let me know on those August spoilers---
QUOTE (bigrafefan @ Jul 23 2009, 05:56 AM)
Where did you read the August spoiler, I've looked everywhere for it.
Of course Sami is doubting that's her personality. The question is what should Rafe do- Tell her everything, which is possibly the wreck was caused by Ari, her boyfriend or both, and to protect Ari he covered it up and resented Ari for it. Keep it to himself and continue to protect Ari, even though I think she's up to something. And last and certainly not least, and this is coming from a major Safe fan, dump Sami. Why? maybe she's just not good enough for him. The fact is she's a lyer, munipulator, and sometimes stupid. Expecially concerning EJ, the rapist, attepted to murderer, kidnapper, munipulator, controller of women, torturer, and all around SOB, with a conscience-- hey maybe Sami should take him back he sounds like such a catch.
So what is Rafe's past-- Here's is my belief
His other side is one of tenderness and excessive pain.
A former gang banger rescued by Sister Agnes.
Abused possibly, by his father, and who tried to rescue his mother from him and failed.
His sister, a former gang banger, was not easily rescued by Sister Agnes and because of that he has ran around with a net for years trying to save his sister.
Unlucky in love, but lucky in brains, watch out Sami he may lead with his heart but he isn't stupid.
Dangerous but not in a bad way, he's just got a violent streak when push comes to shove, so watch out EJ.
By the way who does he remind you of, not Roman, yes definitely JOHN BLACK.
Related to someone in Salem? maybe the Reed kids. You know Austin and Billie. Kate's kids. Maybe he's Curtis Reed's son, Kate's abusive ex-husband.
Or maybe he's kin to the Toscanas, you know Isabella-aka-Brady's mother remember the wine Sami and him drank at the spoiled picnic, that's what kind of wine it was. Or maybe Emily was kin to them.
Just felt the need to vent.
Let me know on those August spoilers---
Of course Sami is doubting that's her personality. The question is what should Rafe do- Tell her everything, which is possibly the wreck was caused by Ari, her boyfriend or both, and to protect Ari he covered it up and resented Ari for it. Keep it to himself and continue to protect Ari, even though I think she's up to something. And last and certainly not least, and this is coming from a major Safe fan, dump Sami. Why? maybe she's just not good enough for him. The fact is she's a lyer, munipulator, and sometimes stupid. Expecially concerning EJ, the rapist, attepted to murderer, kidnapper, munipulator, controller of women, torturer, and all around SOB, with a conscience-- hey maybe Sami should take him back he sounds like such a catch.
So what is Rafe's past-- Here's is my belief
His other side is one of tenderness and excessive pain.
A former gang banger rescued by Sister Agnes.
Abused possibly, by his father, and who tried to rescue his mother from him and failed.
His sister, a former gang banger, was not easily rescued by Sister Agnes and because of that he has ran around with a net for years trying to save his sister.
Unlucky in love, but lucky in brains, watch out Sami he may lead with his heart but he isn't stupid.
Dangerous but not in a bad way, he's just got a violent streak when push comes to shove, so watch out EJ.
By the way who does he remind you of, not Roman, yes definitely JOHN BLACK.
Related to someone in Salem? maybe the Reed kids. You know Austin and Billie. Kate's kids. Maybe he's Curtis Reed's son, Kate's abusive ex-husband.
Or maybe he's kin to the Toscanas, you know Isabella-aka-Brady's mother remember the wine Sami and him drank at the spoiled picnic, that's what kind of wine it was. Or maybe Emily was kin to them.
Just felt the need to vent.
Let me know on those August spoilers---
BigRafeFan again found the August 3rd spoiler, on soap central. I repeat DUMP HER!
By the way, I wouldn't be suprised, in desire to comfort Rafe, and get back at her husband, if Nicole planted a big wet one on Rafe.
QUOTE (bigrafefan @ Jul 23 2009, 05:56 AM)
Where did you read the August spoiler, I've looked everywhere for it.
Of course Sami is doubting that's her personality. The question is what should Rafe do- Tell her everything, which is possibly the wreck was caused by Ari, her boyfriend or both, and to protect Ari he covered it up and resented Ari for it. Keep it to himself and continue to protect Ari, even though I think she's up to something. And last and certainly not least, at this is coming from a major Safe fan, dump Sami. Why? maybe she's just not good enough for him. The fact is she's a lyer, munipulator, and sometimes stupid. Expecially concerning EJ, the rapist, attepted to murderer, kidnapper, munipulator, controller of women, torturer, and all around SOB, with a conscience-- hey maybe Sami should take him back he sounds like such a catch.
So what is Rafe's past-- Here's is my belief
His other side is one of tenderness and excessive pain.
A former gang banger rescued by Sister Agnes.
Abused possibly, by his father, and who tried to rescue his mother from him and failed.
His sister, a former gang banger, was not easily rescued by Sister Agnes and because of that he has ran around with a net for years trying to save his sister.
Unlucky in love, but lucky in brains, watch out Sami he may lead with his heart but he isn't stupid.
Dangerous but not in a bad, he's just got a violent streak when push comes to shove, watch out EJ.
By the way who does he remind you of, not Roman, yes definitely JOHN BLACK.
Related to someone in Salem? maybe the Reed kids. You know Austin and Billie. Kate's kids. Maybe he's Curtis Reed's son, Kate's abusive ex-husband.
Or maybe he's kin to the Toscanas, you know Isabella-aka-Brady's mother remember the wine Sami and him drank at the spoiled picnic, that's what kind of wine it was. Or maybe Emily was kin to them.
Just felt the need to vent.
Let me know on those August spoilers---
Of course Sami is doubting that's her personality. The question is what should Rafe do- Tell her everything, which is possibly the wreck was caused by Ari, her boyfriend or both, and to protect Ari he covered it up and resented Ari for it. Keep it to himself and continue to protect Ari, even though I think she's up to something. And last and certainly not least, at this is coming from a major Safe fan, dump Sami. Why? maybe she's just not good enough for him. The fact is she's a lyer, munipulator, and sometimes stupid. Expecially concerning EJ, the rapist, attepted to murderer, kidnapper, munipulator, controller of women, torturer, and all around SOB, with a conscience-- hey maybe Sami should take him back he sounds like such a catch.
So what is Rafe's past-- Here's is my belief
His other side is one of tenderness and excessive pain.
A former gang banger rescued by Sister Agnes.
Abused possibly, by his father, and who tried to rescue his mother from him and failed.
His sister, a former gang banger, was not easily rescued by Sister Agnes and because of that he has ran around with a net for years trying to save his sister.
Unlucky in love, but lucky in brains, watch out Sami he may lead with his heart but he isn't stupid.
Dangerous but not in a bad, he's just got a violent streak when push comes to shove, watch out EJ.
By the way who does he remind you of, not Roman, yes definitely JOHN BLACK.
Related to someone in Salem? maybe the Reed kids. You know Austin and Billie. Kate's kids. Maybe he's Curtis Reed's son, Kate's abusive ex-husband.
Or maybe he's kin to the Toscanas, you know Isabella-aka-Brady's mother remember the wine Sami and him drank at the spoiled picnic, that's what kind of wine it was. Or maybe Emily was kin to them.
Just felt the need to vent.
Let me know on those August spoilers---
I totally agree with this part. I believe that Ari n Rafe were both part of some mob type family and possibly the reason both were so weiry of getting into relationships. I think Rafe broke from the family and got with Emily and the family decided to kill them for it and the accident only killed Emily. Just my thoughts.
QUOTE (bigrafefan @ Jul 23 2009, 07:38 AM)
BigRafeFan again found the August 3rd spoiler, on soap central. I repeat DUMP HER!
By the way, I wouldn't be suprised, in desire to comfort Rafe, and get back at her husband, if Nicole planted a big wet one on Rafe.
By the way, I wouldn't be suprised, in desire to comfort Rafe, and get back at her husband, if Nicole planted a big wet one on Rafe.
Dump her? Nicole kissing Rafe? Careful there or I'll think you're from the other fanbase!!! LOLOLOLOL
BigRAFEFan, I'm thinking you are from another fan base and you are just a Rafe fan and NOT a SAFE fan...if so this site is for SAFE fans....
So what is it...SAFE or just RAFE???
So what is it...SAFE or just RAFE???
QUOTE (lepke @ Jul 23 2009, 11:46 AM)
BigRAFEFan, I'm thinking you are from another fan base and you are just a Rafe fan and NOT a SAFE fan...if so this site is for SAFE fans....
So what is it...SAFE or just RAFE???
So what is it...SAFE or just RAFE???
ITA we love both Sami and Rafe as ~safe in this forum. No one who posts here would entertain either dumping or breaking up with the other. There are enough haters on the main board doing that. This is the safe place that we come to give total support to our couple so.......it's only pro Safe in this subforum
Thank you
QUOTE (bigrafefan @ Jul 23 2009, 06:38 AM)
BigRafeFan again found the August 3rd spoiler, on soap central. I repeat DUMP HER!
By the way, I wouldn't be suprised, in desire to comfort Rafe, and get back at her husband, if Nicole planted a big wet one on Rafe.
By the way, I wouldn't be suprised, in desire to comfort Rafe, and get back at her husband, if Nicole planted a big wet one on Rafe.
See now, that's what they do in other relationships, the kind that only last five minutes. OUR couple-SAFE-is NOT any couple. They do stupid things to each other (like not explaining their past or checking up on each other, then they fight then they forgive and then they make up (our fav part). It's what real couples do, and since there has been such a lack of real couples for such a long time I understand you not recognizing Safe's uniqueness.
And the thing with Nicole? I think she's got bigger things to worry about, and that's a different thread anyway.
QUOTE (daysknowitall @ Jul 23 2009, 06:26 AM)
I totally agree with this part. I believe that Ari n Rafe were both part of some mob type family and possibly the reason both were so weiry of getting into relationships. I think Rafe broke from the family and got with Emily and the family decided to kill them for it and the accident only killed Emily. Just my thoughts.
I'm more inclined to believe that it was lower level gang or street stuff than fullout organized mob business, but I do think there's something they're hiding together.
I think they're building Rafe's character to be a reformed something or other. Could be he was recruited into the FBI from the streets as part of a sting, and they trained and kept him? It's a soap, afterall, those kind of romanticized ideas are part of the deal.
Rafe dump Sami?? Nah....since there are other players trying to break them up, that isn't really necessary in the s/l, besides, if he was going to dump her, it would have already happened. The s/l, right now, is leaning toward Sami not trusting Rafe - and it will all turn out to be something other than what it appears..of that I am positive.
My feeling about Rafe's past is that there has been a horrible tragedy which he blames himself for (Emily's death), but it isn't at all what he thinks it is. I also think that Arianna knows the truth and has known the truth and for reason isn't telling. Perhaps she is being blackmailed or threatened in some way. She is obviously involved on a very deep level though.
Rafe is going to turn out to be the Hero we all think he is, not perfect, but definitely one of the good guys.
Rafe and Sami will be just fine at the end of this. The writers are writing them as a long term couple - actually, they already are a long term couple if you compare them to others on the show right now.
My feeling about Rafe's past is that there has been a horrible tragedy which he blames himself for (Emily's death), but it isn't at all what he thinks it is. I also think that Arianna knows the truth and has known the truth and for reason isn't telling. Perhaps she is being blackmailed or threatened in some way. She is obviously involved on a very deep level though.
Rafe is going to turn out to be the Hero we all think he is, not perfect, but definitely one of the good guys.
Rafe and Sami will be just fine at the end of this. The writers are writing them as a long term couple - actually, they already are a long term couple if you compare them to others on the show right now.
QUOTE (Shanda @ Jul 23 2009, 01:31 PM)
ITA we love both Sami and Rafe as ~safe in this forum. No one who posts here would entertain either dumping or breaking up with the other. There are enough haters on the main board doing that. This is the safe place that we come to give total support to our couple so.......it's only pro Safe in this subforum Thank you
Thank you Hey now, didn't I stir up some fire. I agree Safe all the way, but to make it work. Sami is going to have to get over her self. She compares this relationship to all the others she has had. And this one doesn't compare, why, that is easy, Let's compare the two other real men from her past. First there was Lucus, the Chloe dupe, who only see life in shades of white. He expected Sami to be the perfect angel and wife. Let's face that is not our Sami. She wild and impulsive, got to love that about her. Then there was EJ, the jerk, who only sees life in shades of black and wanted her to be the devil incarnate. And that is not our girl either. But then there's hunky Rafe, Jenna is so lucky, who see life in many many shades of gray, and that's what Sami calls home. God help Stefano when Rafe finds out what he's up to I think he's met a superior adversary. And I would love to see him face down EJ, we all know, he'd kick his Butt. Replay the moment of there first kiss on youtube and look at EJ's face, it's priceless. Sami is hurting Rafe and doesn't mean too. But our boy Rafe, is head over hills, wouldn't ever let her go I am betting on him telling all. To all that say they have no chemistry there is a banner where they're, uh, doing it and they caught her face right and the right moment it sure resembles passion. Does anybody have it?
But this is about Rafe's past feed back on the Toscana wine please, any comments.
QUOTE (lepke @ Jul 23 2009, 11:46 AM)
BigRAFEFan, I'm thinking you are from another fan base and you are just a Rafe fan and NOT a SAFE fan...if so this site is for SAFE fans....
So what is it...SAFE or just RAFE???
So what is it...SAFE or just RAFE???
I agree, this is a SAFE haven.
QUOTE (everhopefull @ Jul 23 2009, 03:56 PM)
I agree, this is a SAFE haven.
I am definitely all for Safe, he completes her and she does the same for him. And it's about time for her to find a bit of happiness. They are more than a super couple they're love in the afternoon personified. It's just time for him to let her give him the happiness he's been looking for and to tell his sister to get a life. If it's not Meridith it's Ari, They're like John and Marlena, Jack and Jennifer, Steve and Kayla, epic lovers. Fated to be ,from Rafe's own mouth. I just got irritated when I read that spoiler, another fight, come on. Well, I guess the more fighting the more making up. They are the reason I starting watching the show again.
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