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mihn
What's happened to Chloe over the years?? Chloe used to be one of my favorite characters, she was intelligent, witty, strong, independant... She didn't use to care what anyone thought about her

Clips of Chloe from the old Days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luHMT4ff9B0...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I49LuUpumB4'

And look at her now...no morals, all dressed up all the time, cleavage, too much make up.
(Nadia is so beautiful, too much make up takes away from her beauty...)
The writers are turning her into a porn star, almost to the point that I don't even like Chloe no more. The character of Chloe needs to be rescued.

Like I mentioned in another post: what has happened to Chloe is not character development, but character destruction!
huskygrl
I've wondered about this. I missed the last blast years and when I started watching again last summer the character of Chloe was just some vapid bedhopper, it was obvious there were fans of the character, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out why. Thanks for posting the clips!
FRSixburgh
Chloe is an adult now..she's not a high-school kid any longer. The past is the past.
She's a sexually active (well, maybe NOT with her hubby wink.gif) beautiful gal who dresses the part.
I adore her..then, now, forever. wub.gif
CanGrl
QUOTE (FRSixburgh @ Jun 19 2009, 11:33 AM) *
Chloe is an adult now..she's not a high-school kid any longer. The past is the past.
She's a sexually active (well, maybe NOT with her hubby wink.gif) beautiful gal who dresses the part.
I adore her..then, now, forever. wub.gif


Shouldn't an adult be wiser and more mature? I watched these old videos of Chloe and I'm floored. It's not about the clothes, and it's not even about being sexually active. She used to be confident, strong, and an actual role model. She didn't grow up, she grew down. It's like she's making up for actually having a personality during the teen years. Now she's just an irritating, whiny crybaby.
mihn
QUOTE (CanGrl @ Jun 19 2009, 11:18 AM) *
Shouldn't an adult be wiser and more mature? I watched these old videos of Chloe and I'm floored. It's not about the clothes, and it's not even about being sexually active. She used to be confident, strong, and an actual role model. She didn't grow up, she grew down. It's like she's making up for actually having a personality during the teen years. Now she's just an irritating, whiny crybaby.


Great post I love it. You said it even than me!!!!!!
DayFan
QUOTE (FRSixburgh @ Jun 19 2009, 10:33 AM) *
Chloe is an adult now..she's not a high-school kid any longer. The past is the past.
She's a sexually active (well, maybe NOT with her hubby wink.gif) beautiful gal who dresses the part.
I adore her..then, now, forever. wub.gif



You are absolutely correct. She is a woman and I am glad she does not dress like the others on days. Look at Stephanie she dresses age inappropriate, Kate she dresses like a man, even Nicole she is mostly in tents tops. I like the way she looks and acts. She is a librated woman and for most part honors her sexuality and exercises her desire.

The only thing she needs to be saved from is Lucas.
LaBellaDawna
Can Chloe be saved now? How does being sexually active make her an adult she's cheating and lying to her first loves brother who is now her husband. There is noting adult about this character.She's not witty smart or goal oriented. She's a shallow shell of what she used to be. I found her sexual fantasy in the church to be disgusting and rude just goes to show she only cares about one thing now and that is sex.
KateFan
QUOTE (LaBellaDawna @ Jun 19 2009, 01:42 PM) *
Can Chloe be saved now? How does being sexually active make her an adult she's cheating and lying to her first loves brother who is now her husband. There is noting adult about this character.She's not witty smart or goal oriented. She's a shallow shell of what she used to be. I found her sexual fantasy in the church to be disgusting and rude just goes to show she only cares about one thing now and that is sex.


AMEN!
Jnta
QUOTE (mihn @ Jun 19 2009, 10:15 AM) *
What's happened to Chloe over the years?? Chloe used to be one of my favorite characters, she was intelligent, witty, strong, independant... She didn't use to care what anyone thought about her

Clips of Chloe from the old Days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luHMT4ff9B0...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I49LuUpumB4'

And look at her now...no morals, all dressed up all the time, cleavage, too much make up.
(Nadia is so beautiful, too much make up takes away from her beauty...)
The writers are turning her into a porn star, almost to the point that I don't even like Chloe no more. The character of Chloe needs to be rescued.

Like I mentioned in another post: what has happened to Chloe is not character development, but character destruction!


I have to admit, I've been asking myself the same question. But I think my questions started with that silly storyline that had her allowing Brady to think she was dead because a scar on her face. This was Nancy's daughter after all, the plus sized diva with hunky husband wrapped around her finger for life. The younger version of Chloe truly understood how shallow appearances could be. It's really sad what's become of what was once a promising complex character.
Lovyan
You're right. The old Chloe was a better character. Right now, they just have her looking like a deer caught in headlights. I don't recall her previous character, but Nadia never expresses anything in her eyes. It's almost like they are too heavy with makeup to actually move or show her movement.

She's so beautiful and talented, but the character of Chloe is just portraying "Gawd, I can't believe I have to be here again."

FRSixburgh
QUOTE (LaBellaDawna @ Jun 19 2009, 01:42 PM) *
Can Chloe be saved now? How does being sexually active make her an adult she's cheating and lying to her first loves brother who is now her husband. There is noting adult about this character.She's not witty smart or goal oriented. She's a shallow shell of what she used to be. I found her sexual fantasy in the church to be disgusting and rude just goes to show she only cares about one thing now and that is sex.


This all started about a year ago when she hooked up with Philip's brother in an elevator. Nothing will ever top that in my mind. If you want to say she has been on a downward spiral ever since, then fine. And as far as her not being goal orientated, well, Mr Horton himself doesn't want her to be..he was not supportive of her Vancouver gig..he just wants a pretty trophy wife, so that's what she is. ITA, she can be so much more, but she's got to ditch Lucas first and foremost. She should have never married him to begin with if she was so attracted to another man.

And I didn't see ANY sex in her church fantasy..it was just kissing..is kissing considered sex now?
And that's why she was there in the first-place, it was a last-ditch effort to erase her "impure' thoughts.
LaBellaDawna
QUOTE (FRSixburgh @ Jun 19 2009, 02:10 PM) *
This all started about a year ago when she hooked up with Philip's brother in an elevator. Nothing will ever top that in my mind. If you want to say she has been on a downward spiral ever since, then fine. And as far as her not being goal orientated, well, Mr Horton himself doesn't want her to be..he was not supportive of her Vancouver gig..he just wants a pretty trophy wife, so that's what she is. ITA, she can be so much more, but she's got to ditch Lucas first and foremost. She should have never married him to begin with if she was so attracted to another man.

And I didn't see ANY sex in her church fantasy..it was just kissing..is kissing considered sex now?
And that's why she was there in the first-place, it was a last-ditch effort to erase her "impure' thoughts.



So she was having a very heated kissing fantasy in church my bad. Seriously she can be with any man she wants to but at the end of the day the writers will write her the exact same way a bored sex object. Maybe it was due to the budget cuts but Lucas and Chloe discussed the singing job and they both agreed on it yet nothing ever came to it.The old Chloe wouldn't of gave a flying fig what any man thought if she wanted something bad enough she'd go for it. Now she's all gun ho about this hosting job. These writers have no clue on how to write Chloe or what to do with her. Why is it two men are allowed to dictate her future? She should be strong enough to lead her own life.
DayFan
QUOTE (FRSixburgh @ Jun 19 2009, 01:10 PM) *
This all started about a year ago when she hooked up with Philip's brother in an elevator. Nothing will ever top that in my mind. If you want to say she has been on a downward spiral ever since, then fine. And as far as her not being goal orientated, well, Mr Horton himself doesn't want her to be..he was not supportive of her Vancouver gig..he just wants a pretty trophy wife, so that's what she is. ITA, she can be so much more, but she's got to ditch Lucas first and foremost. She should have never married him to begin with if she was so attracted to another man.

And I didn't see ANY sex in her church fantasy..it was just kissing..is kissing considered sex now?
And that's why she was there in the first-place, it was a last-ditch effort to erase her "impure' thoughts.



ITA. You are right again.

In order to keep Chloe with Lucas her character had to be revised. Lucas is the worst match for Chloe, he is such a Joe sixpack, don't get me wrong he is a cut JSP but no match for Chloe's worldly sophisticated character. Chloe must have blamed herself for Brady drugging and downward and destructive life. She came to town and wanted to put all that behind, hooked up with an old flame who didn't want to commit. Chloe needed closure with Brady first but instead she got elevator sex with LameA@@ Lucas. The only time I have liked Chloe is when she is with Daniel. She is herself, she is strong, she fights, she banters she is tender and loving. As for her fantasy in the church, well you don't have to go to a church to be with God. You mean to tell me if she had a fantasy in the privacy of her bedroom, then God would not be offended or wouldn't know? Please, people. If you are looking for a reason to blame don't look to Chloe's affair, her love and lust for Daniel, look at the man she has married. Granted she had good intention, but sometimes the best of intentions will lead you to destructive path. Chloe wants to do the right thing by Lucas, having the best of intentions in heart and mind, but what she is not realizing is that in order to give Lucas a life worth living, she has to give up her own life and her own happiness. She has to give up herself. Its a sacrifice and she is suffering.
daysfan111
good thread mihn, and thanks for the clips.

QUOTE (Jnta @ Jun 19 2009, 01:53 PM) *
I have to admit, I've been asking myself the same question. But I think my questions started with that silly storyline that had her allowing Brady to think she was dead because a scar on her face. This was Nancy's daughter after all, the plus sized diva with hunky husband wrapped around her finger for life. The younger version of Chloe truly understood how shallow appearances could be. It's really sad what's become of what was once a promising complex character.


you're right it started there actually. she didn't want to tell brady she's alive over something as superficial as a scar. the writers really don't know how to write chloe. she has become more and more shallow since then.

QUOTE (LaBellaDawna @ Jun 19 2009, 02:27 PM) *
So she was having a very heated kissing fantasy in church my bad. Seriously she can be with any man she wants to but at the end of the day the writers will write her the exact same way a bored sex object. Maybe it was due to the budget cuts but Lucas and Chloe discussed the singing job and they both agreed on it yet nothing ever came to it.The old Chloe wouldn't of gave a flying fig what any man thought if she wanted something bad enough she'd go for it. Now she's all gun ho about this hosting job. These writers have no clue on how to write Chloe or what to do with her. Why is it two men are allowed to dictate her future? She should be strong enough to lead her own life.


i agree. i am a phloe fan, but aside from that. regardless of chloe ever beomes together with philip again or not she needs to change.
daysfan111
....and lucas is a great guy. maybe he and chloe are not the perfect match, but either way there is no way anyone can ever justify chloe's cheating on lucas. he has done NOTHING to her to deserve it!!
Krileycakes
QUOTE (daysfan111 @ Jun 19 2009, 03:36 PM) *
good thread mihn, and thanks for the clips.



you're right it started there actually. she didn't want to tell brady she's alive over something as superficial as a scar. the writers really don't know how to write chloe. she has become shallow since then.



i agree. i am a phloe fan, but aside from that. regardless of chloe ever beomes together with philip again or not she needs to change.




i don't know if you have ever watched chloe in the old days or not. when nancy first took her in her house. seems like you haven't. i agree with you that make up and clothes has nothing to do with the way she is right now, she is beautiful regardless to me too, and i don't know about others, but at least i will always watch chloe no matter what.
also keep in mind nadia said herself in an interview that it's like chloe is crazy now and everyone on the show have forgotten all about their past. i think a she was also refering to it the way chloe has been written. she needs to get her backbone back. if you watch the clips from old days you'll see she had so much more integrity and better values.


I've watched Chloe since she first came to salem thank you very much. I've been a Chloe fan since the beginning and always will be....NO matter what=P

I did read that interview and Nadia said Chloe was crazy because of the 'promise to god' stuff. Which I agree with.
People make mistakes. Nobody is perfect, even the people that grew up with integrity and values. Chloe is flawed...Big effin deal!

As far as Chloe cheating on Lucas. Whatever!...... everyone cheats on Lucas, lol It's consistent with his character. Chloe fell in love with someone else.....burn her at the stake=P That's not the worst thing in the world.
She's sacrificing her own happiness to be with him and I hate it. I just want her to be happy and she's not happy with Lucas.
Get him away from Chloe and we'll get the real chloe back.
The writers shoudn't have hooked her up with that loser in the first place. Chloe is too good for him.
daysfan111
then we both want her to be happy. biggrin.gif i'm sure her and lucas' relationship will end soon, and she'll probably hook up with daniel. when she finds out daniel can't make her happy, and that that realtionship was just based on sex then hopefully she'll take a break from men, focus on herself and we'll see some of the characteristic of chloe that we haven't seen for so long back.
autumnwinter
QUOTE (DayFan @ Jun 19 2009, 12:45 PM) *
You are absolutely correct. She is a woman and I am glad she does not dress like the others on days. Look at Stephanie she dresses age inappropriate, Kate she dresses like a man, even Nicole she is mostly in tents tops. I like the way she looks and acts. She is a librated woman and for most part honors her sexuality and exercises her desire.

The only thing she needs to be saved from is Lucas.


I couldn't agree with you more, but Nicole's tent tops are because she pregnant in real life.
mihn
And by the way I love Nadia Bjorlin, and I love Chloe, however, I think the writers are forgetting who Chloe is. Or maybe not all of them know show's history.
Chloe is NOT being written in a good way right now.
Before I considered her a role model.
I'm not saying she shouldn't wear make up and that he should hide herself under the black robe and glasses. But her clothes nowadays do reflect how she has been written. Maybe they're going after male fan-group, then fine let her look like she does now.
But there is nothing, and I mean NOTHING that I recognize from her personality few years ago where she dared to be different and didn't let any men take over her life like that and play mindgames with her.
Chloe is a smart character.
The real Chloe would have been much more focused on her career, herself and not som triangle drama. Neither would she sleep with her first love's brother in an elevator, then marry him, then cheat on him with some horney doctor that has had sex with most of his patients.
mihn
QUOTE (LaBellaDawna @ Jun 19 2009, 01:27 PM) *
So she was having a very heated kissing fantasy in church my bad. Seriously she can be with any man she wants to but at the end of the day the writers will write her the exact same way a bored sex object. Maybe it was due to the budget cuts but Lucas and Chloe discussed the singing job and they both agreed on it yet nothing ever came to it.The old Chloe wouldn't of gave a flying fig what any man thought if she wanted something bad enough she'd go for it. Now she's all gun ho about this hosting job. These writers have no clue on how to write Chloe or what to do with her. Why is it two men are allowed to dictate her future? She should be strong enough to lead her own life.


Good post. I agree with every word.
SAFElovin
Agreed... Chloe needs to be saved! tongue.gif
Lulu2009
QUOTE (mihn @ Jun 19 2009, 09:15 AM) *
What's happened to Chloe over the years?? Chloe used to be one of my favorite characters, she was intelligent, witty, strong, independant... She didn't use to care what anyone thought about her

Clips of Chloe from the old Days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luHMT4ff9B0...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I49LuUpumB4'

And look at her now...no morals, all dressed up all the time, cleavage, too much make up.
(Nadia is so beautiful, too much make up takes away from her beauty...)
The writers are turning her into a porn star, almost to the point that I don't even like Chloe no more. The character of Chloe needs to be rescued.

Like I mentioned in another post: what has happened to Chloe is not character development, but character destruction!

Well said.I still like Chloe,but the writing for her hasn't been good since she returned.The writers have done alot of damage to the character and the worst part is that I don't think they even care.I wish they would cut back on the amount of make-up she wears.NB doesn't need it.She looks so much better in real-life when she does her own make up.She's really natural looking.That's what I would like to see on the show too.I wish they would stop having her show so much cleavage all the time.I feel as though she's being exploited and I would not blame NB if she decided to leave when her contract expires later this year.As a woman,I am disgusted that TPTB would use a woman in this way just because she is beautiful.
Lulu2009
QUOTE (daysfan111 @ Jun 19 2009, 03:39 PM) *
....and lucas is a great guy. maybe he and chloe are not the perfect match, but either way there is no way anyone can ever justify chloe's cheating on lucas. he has done NOTHING to her to deserve it!!

I agree that there is no justifying Chloe's actions.Lucas never did anything to hurt her.
Lulu2009
QUOTE (daysfan111 @ Jun 19 2009, 04:03 PM) *
then we both want her to be happy. biggrin.gif i'm sure her and lucas' relationship will end soon, and she'll probably hook up with daniel. when she finds out daniel can't make her happy, and that that realtionship was just based on sex then hopefully she'll take a break from men, focus on herself and we'll see some of the characteristic of chloe that we haven't seen for so long back.

I think Kate's revenge will play a huge part in whatever happens.I've got a feeling Chloe won't be going back to Dan in the near future.I'm hoping Chloe will be able to work things out with Lucas in the end.I know many people don't like them,but I do.I'm not buying that she loves Dan.It's only ever been about sex.
VPMama
QUOTE (SAFElovin @ Jun 19 2009, 09:52 PM) *
Agreed... Chloe needs to be saved! tongue.gif



LMAO! Yes, save Chloe from this boring marriage.
I don't care if Lucas deserves to be hurt or not, they are beyond dull together.
mihn
QUOTE (Lulu2009 @ Jun 20 2009, 10:12 AM) *
Well said.I still like Chloe,but the writing for her hasn't been good since she returned.The writers have done alot of damage to the character and the worst part is that I don't think they even care.I wish they would cut back on the amount of make-up she wears.NB doesn't need it.She looks so much better in real-life when she does her own make up.She's really natural looking.That's what I would like to see on the show too.I wish they would stop having her show so much cleavage all the time.I feel as though she's being exploited and I would not blame NB if she decided to leave when her contract expires later this year.As a woman,I am disgusted that TPTB would use a woman in this way just because she is beautiful.


Yes!!! I agree!
LaurenIsSupreme
QUOTE (Lulu2009 @ Jun 20 2009, 10:25 AM) *
I think Kate's revenge will play a huge part in whatever happens.I've got a feeling Chloe won't be going back to Dan in the near future.I'm hoping Chloe will be able to work things out with Lucas in the end.I know many people don't like them,but I do.I'm not buying that she loves Dan.It's only ever been about sex.


I just hate it that Kate is even doing such a thing to Chloe,and all because TPTB seem to think that Danloe is oh so super hot. Wrong!
lumifan09
I've been watching since 2003 and I've always hated her. She has always been a flat character with no personality. I think Nadia is pretty, but from what I've seen with Chloe not a good actress. I can't stand it when Chloe opens her mouth. She is just so monotoned. She never sounds angry, sad, frustrated, happy... it's all at the same pitch with no emotion.

I have no idea how this is the second time she has been in the middle of a triangle... I guess it's all baised on looks
autumnwinter
Yes Chloe needs to be saved but from Lucas and his pathetic mother. You'll have to go back and watch you tube for her different range of emotions mostly with her "conversations" with Daniel (and I emphasis on conversations with Daniel since some think they don't talk... rolling.gif
LaurenIsSupreme
QUOTE (autumnwinter @ Jun 23 2009, 06:08 PM) *
Yes Chloe needs to be saved but from Lucas and his pathetic mother. You'll have to go back and watch you tube for her different range of emotions mostly with her "conversations" with Daniel (and I emphasis on conversations with Daniel since some think they don't talk... rolling.gif


With Chloe in the arms of Philip or Brady,the writers never once needed another character from the show to say how they were oozing with chemistry,but I guess Higley and Corday are showing their desperation since they felt that Chris should say such a thing about Danloe and we all know this is because most fans gag whenever they appear onscreen together.
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