JACK DECIDES TO TAKE HIS FATHER’S PLACE AS KING BEFORE SILAS CAN RETURN TO SHILOH AND RECLAIM HIS POWER—SEASON FINALE—MACAULAY CULKIN GUEST STARS—



Jack (Sebastian Stan) and William (Dylan Baker) make plans for Jack to take his father’s place as King of Gilboa. To everyone’s surprise, Silas (McShane) is alive and David (Chris Egan) escapes Shiloh to warn Silas about the chaos to come. Also stars Allison Miller, Susanna Thompson and Eamonn Walker.

I thought there were 13 episodes? Next week's will be only 12. Are we sure it is the final episode?

Episode 1 was counted as 2 episodes. Since it's 2 hours opening premiere in tv, so total of 13. that's correct.

i simply cannot imagine how they'll wrap ALL OF THIS up in one episode. seriously.

That doesn't tell us much of anything does it?.... I'm glad. I almost didn't click on this topic bcs I didn't want to know anything about it. But the curiosity was too powerful!!!

^^^This preview tells us what we already know from the previous episode

This is going to be an amazing hour of television. I can't wait but at the same time I'm sad as well.

Me, neither. They'll have to take so much out of it for just one hour. I find it kind of ironic that the site here, it's called Season Finale and not Series Finale.

I think Jack will be shot dead while he is trying to escape along with William Cross. Silas will die shortly from his wound and David will be the next king.

That's what i believe, but again it might be wrong.

This scenario is quite plausible. Then I wonder who will be David's "Thomasina". Michelle's child could then live with his/her parents. But then what promises will Silas extract from David to care for the residents of Serendipity; i.e. Pupee, the son and his mother?
The attempted assasination of King Silas is theatrically reminiscent of "Who Shot JR from the former tv show Dallas". The blood on the outfit of Queen Rose was historically reminiscent of Jackie Kennedy after President Kennedy was assassinated. William reminds me of a recent past vice president. Silas reminds me of a composite of American presidents; notably Nixon and Clinton. Thomasina's role is good but the acting in the last episode (7/18/09) was stiff and dispassionate, considering that the monarch was nearly killed. Come on Thomasina, why were you so far away from King Silas when the bullets were flying? Should you not have jumped in front of the bullet? What is your real role in any of this? Oh, so much to think about and so few episodes left. The web site says the season finale is 8/7/2009. I live for Saturday nights and KINGS! Now that's entertainment!

Calling it Season Finale gives me hope that perhaps NBC is havings second thoughts to cancelation!!!

I really hope that's true, whether it's with NBC or another station. I've already sent emails to all the other stations and cable stations; and even to Directv, since I've been with them for a long time. Their CH 101 would be perfect. That could even be why their release of the DVD keeps on being delayed. It's changed a few times and the cost has gone up each time. I ordered it as soon as it was available on Amazon and it's changed twice. We'll see. I'm really hoping some station picks it up.

From David Vision in "Chapter One", we can see he will be King with Michelle, Queen mother and Thomasina. So maybe Jack is dead ..... who are those girls in the court room? don't tell me they are David's mistresses.

I don't recall this. I don't have a mind for remember such details. I am affraid Jack will be dead. It seems to me that some where on this site it was mentioned that in the bible his character does die. I hope not but I would understand. This is more like a TV miniseries - when they are done it seems following what is said about the bible the story of the Kings will be gone and there will just be King David. Did David in the bible have mistresses or other wives - that might explain the girls. I don't know the story well enough in the bible. I'd appreciate any enlightenment. It does seem the authors are sticking to the bible pretty close.

Ok maybe it is me but I can't find the topic for last week's episode. I have looked a few times. I know I over look things but I give up. I can't find it and I know I commented yesterday on it.

Here is last week's episode thread.

Also, if you will click on your user name, then click "FIND MEMBER'S POSTS" you will find all your posts in all the threads you have replied in

Thanks. That helps. Don't know why I couldn't find it. I just had to check - that was the best eposide yet! I say yet because my hopes for this Sat. are really high. I'm hoping Michelle and David get together, Jack and David end up best friends, the King is punished, the Queen is pushed aside, Cross is exposed and we find out who Andrew really is. Is that asking for too much?

^^ We can only hope

Everyone questioning 'how can they wrap this all up?' please keep in mind they filmed the finale episode before the first episode ran. Don't wait expectantly for any real resolution, we're basically bound to be left hanging. Unless they expected to only go one season (yeah right)

^^Actually the producer stated that if the series does not get picked up for a second season, they did provide us an ending to the series.

Lets hope big time! Maybe they have like a couple of versions 1) a clif hanger with a follow season and 2) a rap up with the series canceled - I'm sure that's it.

Please don't kill Jack...Please don't kill Jack...Please don't kill Jack...

I know we're not promised happy endings, but David will need someone like Jack, a friend now, someone who will be honest with him, someone intelligent to discuss world and palace affairs, a right-hand man, a confident....if this show were to be picked up by some other network, the friendship between Jack and David could grow and we could watch their efforts to remain true and not succumb to power as Silas did...even if the show is not picked up..we can be left with a feeling that David has a strong ally to help him guide the nation....

Oh, Please don't kill Jack..Please don't kill Jack....Please don't kill Jack....

begging may be unbecoming, but it's all I got left with one last episode

If the series continues, Jack cannot be trusted

I don't get that impression. I know the king can't be trusted but not Jack. I think that David and Jack could be very good friends. Why do you think else?

Jack reminds me, I imagine, of a young Silas.

Jack screwed over his true love, his father, mother, sister, and uncle (did I miss anyone)..........why would he be faithful to David?

Jack is going to die ........... possible.

He betrayed his father over someone who's not blood related. He will easily betray anyone. No wonder the King called him "******"

Actually, it isn't a series yet since it has only had one season. So it is the season finale. Can't be a series unless there is more than one season.

Jack doesn't have, has never had, a trustworthy mentor or contemporary. He is at least smart enough to know that David is the closest thing to that. But it is easier for me to believe that keeping
David close to him is more out of pragmatic necessity than an emotional one. Too bad the series won't be around long enough to find out his intent.

hey people, i've been away for a while so I'm probably behind on the news for kings, if there really is any (anyone care to fill me in?), but anyway, I doubt that NBC is having any regrets. I'm sure they're calling it season finale in a small effort to alleviate us angry fans who have promised to boycott NBC.

Although..... I have no idea what the pushing back of the DVD release date means... okay, well, the little part of me that allows me to hope says that it could mean they still haven't decided which ending to use because NBC is rethinking their decision.

BUT, here's my question: if NBC is really rethinking their decision to cancel Kings, why?

Has the campaign from the fans been so successful that their offices are getting flooded with butterflies and flags?

is there an exec who has finally come out with some support of kings? did southland tank?--is bromstad gone? Again, pls excuse me--I was in asia for quite a while w/ limited internet access and i only got back a few days ago

High probability that NBC won't renew kings for 2nd season.

As long as last episode gives me a good ending and satisfying closure, i am happy even if only 13 episodes.

Jack was in pain and struggled, and yes he did hurt the person he loved. He did come clean with him but could not leave with being open about their relationship. Jack was in pain and his true love knew it. Jack did not screw over his father - he even offered his life for him. He struck out in hurt. Same with is mother - even as she tried to control him. I don't blame the child from striking out against the partents when the parents struck first. As for his sister - they have had sibling rivialy but when it came down to it he struck a deal to protect her and I believe the biggest reason he turned on his father and came out for David in the court room was his sister, as well as a friendship for David and a true understanding of what is right. He uncle - how does the deciever expect anyone to be honest to them. He would be faithful to David because David is a true person. I believe Jack is a good person at heart but what he has had to live with is filth. Maybe as a father I am too forgiving of Jack because I see him as an abused child. This abuse leaves David with many character flaws but at the heart of Jack is a good person who wants to come out.

His father betrayed him. Jack reacted. A father is give the duty to love his child as God loves us, unconditionally, even if he disagrees with his actions. And he did not betray his father - he layed his life down for him. I think you judge him to harshly and the king to easily. And I don't think that a blood relationship has anything to do with it. His blood relationships are abusive.

David had 8 wife's, the first being the second daughter of King Saul, the last being Bethsheba, mother of Soloman. In the Bible, Saul's son and David grew to be very close friends after Saul tried to have David killed in fear of losing his thrown. Saul's son said he loves his soul (David's), as his own.

Saul and his son were killed in battle.

David committed adultery, had a captain in his army murdered so he could lay with his wife, (sort of, he got his captains wife pregnant, tried to bring him back from battle so the captain could lay with her, thus giving him an out for being the father, the captain refused to leave his men at the battlefront and David ordered him on a mission that would take his life, thereby freeing David to take his wife)

I'm not a religious man, but I found that this story is the story of legends. NBC had great vision when they turned it into a modern day version and I'm hoping that this insight will continue.

David was God's favorite, his chosen one. He was a murderer and an adulterer. He was genuine, good hearted and faithful. He was passionate, heroic and "of good looks".

What a great story line. Sex. Murder. Conspiracy. Violence. Money. Power.

What more do they want?

This is why I'm (maybe convincing myself that I'm) okay w/ Kings coming to an end. Because I don't want to see David turn into the guy in the bible. How can someone be a murderer and an adulterer and be "good hearted"?.... Altho the writing has been so great, I've no doubt those writers would find a way to make it work and keep me hooked!

I think Jack has broken out of a cocoon (as I sit here looking at the fluttering butterflies on your post ). A cocoon of not knowing how he fit in to the picture, and trying to figure out how he should make himself work in that big picture. And then he broke out at David's trial. Choosing to do the right thing, inspired by David the same way his father was inspired to do good by David... (his father for a little while anyway). I also believe his true colors are good because his basis character in the bible was a good guy and all for David from start to finish.

Well, if what you guys think Jack is good in heart then i will believe that. It's true that Benjamin in the bible loved David (like in friendship or brother). He protected David from his psycho father.

I hope this episode will show the good part of Jack and of course .... David as a new king.

Silas lives. We, the sons of Gilboa will not stand by and watch him silenced.

Chazee, please don't pull this url, it is very inspirational.
It's not over untill we decide it is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q47bpOCTcaY

all i know is they better have a second season or i will do someting to them

okay i think that kings waz a extremely good tv show but the season was way to short and how do they think to get good reviews and keep the tv show on the air for the second season so i will be disapointed if they dont do the second season cause they need to have the tv show continue with jack being the king or said to be for a day or so, so they have a story to continue

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ahahahaha^^^^^^^^^^^^^^good one, I agree ^^^^^

another 18 hours to go for last episode of KINGS!!! any pre-air?

you guys, that finale... ! left a lot of loose ends--i've heard that there were two endings: one if the series would get a second season, and one if the it didn't. I know that kings is supposed to be canceled, but I've read some chatter that there's now some hope stirring.

what do you all think are the chances?

Una, I have never heard that there were 2 endings..........if so, this one leaves way to much left unknown.

I do not think Kings has been cancelled. If you go to the home page of Kings, it says Season Finale, not Series Finale if NBC truely cancelled it.

See Here

In regards to this episode, yes they a lot of things opened,. I was truely dissapointed.

If it was a series finale it should of at least been a 2 hour finale like the 2 hour premier.

Well, the story has ended, but has left the possibility of return. David is off to Gath without knowing of his upcoming child; Jack has his own hell on earth being required to make love to his wife and produce an heir; Silas and the Queen in their own delusional world; and what about Reverand Samuels coming back as a spirit to advise both Jack and David. Great show. I am sorry to see it not renewed...

Dont forget the Queens brother on the run. And his son. Could he be the Sila's new adopted son?

On Directv, the listing was "Series Finale"

QUOTE (Calved @ Jul 23 2009, 12:18 PM)

David had 8 wife's, the first being the second daughter of King Saul, the last being Bethsheba, mother of Soloman. In the Bible, Saul's son and David grew to be very close friends after Saul tried to have David killed in fear of losing his thrown. Saul's son said he loves his soul (David's), as his own.

Saul and his son were killed in battle.

David committed adultery, had a captain in his army murdered so he could lay with his wife, (sort of, he got his captains wife pregnant, tried to bring him back from battle so the captain could lay with her, thus giving him an out for being the father, the captain refused to leave his men at the battlefront and David ordered him on a mission that would take his life, thereby freeing David to take his wife)

I'm not a religious man, but I found that this story is the story of legends. NBC had great vision when they turned it into a modern day version and I'm hoping that this insight will continue.

David was God's favorite, his chosen one. He was a murderer and an adulterer. He was genuine, good hearted and faithful. He was passionate, heroic and "of good looks".

What a great story line. Sex. Murder. Conspiracy. Violence. Money. Power.

What more do they want?

You left out some very important details. Everytime David did wrong, he was punished greatly. Death to family, he lost his sons. He did not get away with his wrong doings.

I think NBC has missed a great opportunity. It's not the ending I wanted, but it is an ending to an actual part of Samuel I. David had to go in to exile until he was able to become King. God chose him when he was 14 years old to become King, even if he didn't want to; hence the title Kings. Saul did not want to give up his thrown, so David - the chosen King - left in exile.

I really wanted more out of this. Yes, it was an ending, but it left the door open for soooo much more. Gosh, I wish someone would pick this series up and let it continue. David stays in exile for awhile. It isn't until Saul and Jonathan die in the war with the Phillastines that he's able to return and become king for a very long time.

does anyone know what i'm talking about? I can't remember where, but I'm pretty sure that really early on, I read one of michael green's interviews, and he said that they had prepared for both possibilities (cancellation and renewal). I'll check in the media forum and see if I can remember