Rafe!! Don't leave Sami please! I was really mad at him today.
He tells Sami nothing about his past, how does he expect her to understand?? I don't think leaving is the right option...aww When he pulled away from her kiss and left - it was killing me. He obviously did not want to do it.
Rafe, my dear Rafe please come back soon to Sami!!

Sami also, showing that letter to Nicole and Lucas, being insecure about Rafe, but now telling him she trusts him with her children's life. They both seem a little schizophrenic to me.
They love each other and should know better than to let this Meredith woman come between them!

What Stefano can do to a couple........!

Why do I have a feeling that this is just the beginning?

lol, i thought it was funny how of all of his stuff there he only took the dogs&poker painting, then sami said "wait!" i was afraid for a second she'd say "you're not leaving with that painting!"

And a question: why does everybody keep saying Safe split is temporary (I hope so) - is it because you want to believe thet? - and they'll be together in aout three weeks? What did I miss?

(if it's a spoiler please black it out for those who don't want to know)

Though I'm not a Safe fan, I also don't hate Rafe. But I thought today was harsh too! I don't know who Rafe is protecting (I think it's Ari), but if I was with my true love I would cave.

I got tired of thier off and on relationship, they need to break up. I was actually yelling at rafe to just leave, I am sick of his tantrums, jeez either tell her truth or break up for good.

They're annoying to me. I used to could totally see their appeal to their fans, but lately they're just UGH! They're being stupid and it's just annoying. Rafe's always talking down to Sami about not trusting him and looking at her with disappointment, then key the walk out. Then Sami's trying to figure out what the heck he's up to and then trying to convince him to stay and how much she loves and trusts him?!?! Can we say split personality? If you trust him so much, why are you questioning him? If you don't trust him, own it! She just needs to stand her ground with him and tell him she needs to know the truth or they don't have a future. When he's ready to talk, he knows where she is. Grow a pair, Sami!!!

Did not know if to make a new topic for it or reply to one existing on this page about them, but I chose to write own topic since I haven't made a topic before and I have a lot on my mind when it comes to Sami's and Rafe's break up, so I'll try it this time so move it or whatever if it's becomes too many SAFE topics.
It might sound weird to some, but I think it was beautifully played out. We're all left with the impression how much they actually love each other and don't actually want to be apart from each other.


The kiss: for a couple that's breaking up they sure made out for a pretty long time. I think it was paining Rafe more than it was paining Sami to stop it, but if he didn't I'm sure it would have been even harder for him to leave.

The kids: We're getting a lot of references from Sami how Allie and Johnny are going to miss Rafe and how much he means to them too. She obviously thinks he isn't putting her kids in danger, so I think that she does trust he's not a killer, she just doesn't like that he doesn't trust her with the truth. Which I think he would do if her life somehow wouldn't be in dagnger of knowing the truth ...is my theory!

Picture of the family: She told him to have it, how great father he has been to Grace. Another heartbreaking moment!

Sami slamming the door: I could sense her pain, she was really hurting, and she was mad, I think both mad at herself for asking too much to make him leave, but of course more at him who actually left when she wanted so badly for him to stay in her life. Sami is impulsive, she is not going to back down, she will ask what's on her mind and I love that about her!
But I think Rafe knows that and he'd be about to tell her the truth if she asked some more, so he figured leaving is the only way he can keep himself from hiding things from her. I think that is what rafe can't stand any longer.

The Penguin: It was cute how Sami held the Penguin when she cried about the break up, - the penguin he got himself shot for to buy to her children as christmas presant when she was in the safehouse.

imo, they're not splitting up perminently because of a few reasons:
1) It's clear that these two didn't break up because they stopped loving each other. As long as a couple still loves each other, it's not over for a while and it's very easy for the writers to bring them back together.

2)Rafe is getting deeper and deeper into the whole baby switch storyline. This means that he is going to remain very much connected to Sami's life in a protective way, which means he still loves her enough to care.

3) What else would Rafe do? He's not connected to anyone else in salem well enough.

4) The secret of Emily's past is still unsolved. This is just another way with which Sami will be tied to rafe.



Sami's confusion makes total sense to me. On one hand is the Rafe/hero she's always known and that's the rafe she loves and WANTS to believe in. But there's this information that meredith gave her and rafe refuses to answer to it so that's obviously gonna raise suspiscion. She wants to believe in rafe but she's not stupid enough to do so blindly - thank God- so her heart and her brain are in conflict. Personally, I hope she doesn't go back to rafe without an explanation.

She doesn't trust who he is. That's what the problem is for Rafe. "You don't trust me with your kids". That's a big one. That had to hurt him. She also won't leave the background story alone, and he says he can't have it revealed, so he's leaving to protect that story, and I think it's Ari's story.

Can anyone blame Sami for being torn in this situation? Think about how many times she has been deceived by someone she loved.

ITA agree the scene was actually well written and very well acted (the emotions from both were flowing very high) it was a very moving scene (even those that totally hate Rafe with a blind passion were move to yell at their tvs or whatever). But even Rafe standing outside the door the pain it was so real, I think most people have been there at some point.

As for why we think this is temporary, 1 there are a lot of unresolved issues 2 they are totally and truly in love with each other and nobody else is on the radar 3 while granted the writers dont like happy couples, do you really think they would spend all this time building up this couple and this story to end it here??? nah I dont think so, I think they have taken this couple seriously and it has paid off.

yes, well-played by both. It's been said that Rafe is boring, but Galen's playing the character as he is. He keeps a lot in, and he tries not to show emotions.

Ali Sweeney, good grief, that woman can cry on cue.

If I were Sami I'd head for the hills. Kids and all. She should not let a man like Rafe near her kids. If he's not denying what Emily's sister said, then Sami would do well to ditch him fast.

She either trusts who he is and what he's capable of doing, or she doesn't. She's doubting.

And I've been thinking that Rafe's leaving her not because he doesn't love her or because he doesn't trust that they could get past it, but because he NEEDS to protect that secret, whatever it is.

Well said! ITA!

Good reasons to why the Safe split is temporary!

Great post!
The part that you bolded out yourself is a great thought and I think you're right

I think this could be an opportunity for EJami to reappear and am sure a lot of fans would like that

Wonderful post. You brought up so many wonderful points. I loved those scenes, too. They were wonderfully written and beautifully acted. The scenes left us knowing that Sami and Rafe love each other and that the break up is only temporary. There were so many memorable lines from those scenes, so much pain, but also so much hope. I can't wait to see how all of this goes and am confident that they will be back together before long.

If Sami can't trust Rafe because he won't confide in her about his past, how could she possibly go back to EJ? He has many dark criminal things in his past that he has never owned up to or confided to anyone about. Those who don't think about all this, IMO are not thinking clearly or only love Elvis for his (questionable) good looks.

This isn't about EJ and his questionable past which she knows a great deal about and nothing about Rafe's. As for EJ's questionable good looks, there is nothing questionable about that, he is a knock out; the man is drop dead gorgeous and has won as JS many awards for that. If he is not your cup of tea, fine, but questionable, hardly.

Not THIS EJami! LOL! I love James Scott because of his acting. Of course, his good looks and a nice accent is just icing on the cake!

I am GLAD that Sami slammed the door because I was fully expecting her to grab his legs and hang on as he was walking out! LOL!

I remember how she groveled for Lucas when he was released from prison and I CERTAINLY didn't want to watch that again!!! Yuck.

IMO, when Sami first found out about Emily, Rafe "should" have told her that yes, Emily was his fiance and due to the circumstances, he couldn't talk about it, he's sorry, but it involved [whatever] and that's just the way it has to be. And, that he could understand how this would affect her feelings for him.

That, or realize that ANY woman is going to want to know about his past love who died and he should be prepared to spend his life by himself if he thinks that a woman he's involved with can't know or understand.

Why allow women to fall in love with him and he with them, if he KNOWS this is going to be a problem? IMO, he can't fault Sami just because she wants to know.

I don't like how this situation puts Sami in the "I'd better do what he tells me to do or he'll leave me" mode. Sounds like too many men from her past. I'm sure she will conform, as she did for others, if she wants Rafe back.

There's the EJ hatred directed toward fans again. Is it possible to have a thread just about the topic anymore without hating EJ?

Rafe refuses to tell Sami anything about his life before she met him, that's a huge problem for her. She questioned whether he had siblings. That should not be a deep, dark secret for sure. She's never going to stop digging unless Rafe satisfies her curiosity either. She should have never allowed him to move in with her until she was satisfied with his answers, thus the children would not have to face another change in their young live. As far as Rafe and his secrets go, he really needs to work on his communication skills a bit. He could tell her enough about himself - his family - his boyhood - his favorite dessert - etc. to sidetrack Sami. The only thing he needs to bluff about would be the Emily thing.

As far as Sami goes, she doesn't feel like she knows anything about him. We all know how Sami is when she wants information, don't we?

After reading through this thread, it was going along just wonderfully and staying on the topic of Sami and Rafe but the poster you and others are replying to, was responding to the post by MaleDaysFan who interjected EJ into the thread. I am sure he didn't mean to start anything but that is what happens. I am not sure which fan base he belongs to but it certainly wasn't a SAFE fan who brought EJ into this topic. I didn't see any EJ hatred directed toward fans. When you ask, "Is it possible to have a thread just about the topic anymore without hating EJ?", so many of us SAFE fans would like to ask the same question but substitute Rafe for EJ in the question.

I saw the Safe scenes yesterday. Neither one wanted things to end. Wonderfully done now that is how a couple in love is portrayed. I am not mad at Rafe cause I know he's protecting someone from something just don't know what it is yet.

Im almost sure that MaleDaysFans only meant that if Safe were really breaking up maybe the writers would revisit Ejami and that fan base would probably be happy. no reference to either character faults or virtues until someone had to go and bash EJ, never fails.

Great Safe scenes, wonderfully written and Ali and Galen always deliver. You could feel the pain each was feeling at the thought of losing the one they are in love with. Loved how Sami told Rafe he was a wonderful father to Grace and how the twins think he hung the moon. I even laughed when Sami slammed the door, Rafe has seen her temper in the safehouse so I'm sure he wasn't surprised.lol.

Thank you so very much to see that I was responding to the fan that suggested that this thing with Rafe and Sami could mean a return of EJami. I was simply adding my opinion to this comment which I did not start and I do stand by my opinion as we all do.

If I wrote, "Those who don't think about all this, IMO are not thinking clearly or only love Elvis for his (questionable) good looks" and I substituted Rafe for EJ, I'm sure a lot of Safe's or GG fans would not appreciate that.

IMO, "Those" means EJ's fans. That's personal.

Also, we're not suppose to bash actors' looks, are we? I'm sure that some fans think that Rafe's good looks are questionable too. Would that not offend some, or not look like baiting, or making a derogatory remark about a fan just because they think GG is cute?

Anyway, as I said before, if Sami wants Rafe back, she'll conform and try to please him like she did Austin and Brandon.

Most of the people who hate Rafe only hate him because he's with Sami, and they want EJ with her. Some people are a little rabid about that. Annnnd...I'm sure there will be someone in here hatin' me for that comment. Just making an observation.

I think Rafe has been very understanding of Sami's past, and he's gotten past a lot. She's had quite the history with men. Rafe has explained that he can't talk about Emily, and as I've said, she could respect that, but she won't. Sami is asking him to be someone he's not.

If she really thinks Rafe's capable of killing his fiancee over his job, then she shouldn't be with him. If he thinks she believes he could do that, I don't blame him for calling it quits.

And he doesn't talk about his past. Not in the safehouse, not now. Whatever it is, he's left it behind and wants it back there. Rafe gave her plenty of room to take care of her life, I don't think she's giving him room to handle his as he feels works best for him.

I would say that some fans hate EJ because they want Sami with Lucas or Rafe.

Sami may be asking Rafe to be someone he's not but he's also asking Sami to be someone she's not. Sami is a meddlesome got to know it all lady.

She's always snooped around, schemed and switched/manipulated things her way/advantage. She's told him that.

I just don't like EJ. Love the character and his place in the show, think the actor's doing a great job, but he's not a loveable guy.

He's well aware of who she is, he said as much to Arianna, and that's why he's leaving. He knows she won't let it go, and he can't give it up.

It's not as though Rafe is a keeping the inner-depths of his personal life a secret from Sami on purpose. He even divulged to Arianna his guilt for keeping Emily's death a secret! Rafe has had the intent of telling Sami a couple times, but was ill-advised by his sister, Arianna.

I sure hope Sami and Rafe are strong enough to overcome this setback, trivial as it may be. They are soul-mates, and their "break-up" (if that's what you want to call it) didn't even have closure!

I agree!
I think Rafe is intentionally keeping things from Sami in order to hurt her, rather the opposite!
Safe are soulmates and will overcome it all sooner or later

Thanks for a great answer. So the split not being permanent is not a spoiler? too bad. I still hope they can work things through. As you say they are still so in love and he is staying oin Salem because he loves her and wants to protect her. That was good to see!!
And I agree about the explanation thing. I also hope she doesn't go back to him without explaining anything or telling more about his past!!

ITA! Well said!

I just watched those scenes yesterday and I actually quite enjoyed them. I seen great acting by both Alison and Galen and when Sami slammed the door it made me smile. It was a glimpse of the feisty Sami that I love!

I think the break up was very believeable. When you're dating someone it's a period of getting to know one another. But if Sami is open to telling Rafe everything and he won't return the gesture then it's not going to work. In order for Rafe and Sami to get together, Rafe needs to be honest about everything, no matter what he's promised to keep secret. I can't even count the number of things me and my boyfriend tell each other that should be kept secret because that's what a relationship is supposed to be about. Rafe needs to smarten up and trust Sami with this secret information if he ever wants her back.

That being said, I wouldn't mind if Rafe never told Sami the truth.... but we all know why!!

If Sami wants Rafe, she's going to have to accept him the way he is, secretive about some things he can't tell her and all.

The scene of them at the hospital, when she took Johnny in, was very foretelling. She asked him a question and then said, "she's not suppose to ask questions" or something like that.

She looked beat down/sad/disappointed/put in her place when she made the remark. Course, then she straightened up and went on about her merry way. I like THAT Sami! LOL!

I'm on the fence here. I like Ejami and I like Safe so either way I'm happy. I would like to know what's up with Rafe's past though. Is he trying to protect Ari and if so how can she let him give up everything just for her? Or is Emily still alive and in witness protection somewhere and he can't take the chance of anyone finding out?

Jenna and Little Rock I see your points.
It's unfair that Rafe sais she's not supposed to ask questions, but he just wants her to stay out of this?
But wasn't it Sami who said "Oh, right, I'm not supporsed to ask questions" or something like that, that's what I remember, cuz she was mad.
He needs to tell her the truth soon. Either way, even if he's trying to protect her, I think for them to have a chance Sami has to know about his life too, no matter what reasons he have to keep that from her.
I believe they love each other too much to really let go of one another, I think Rafe is trying to keep a distance not to get her in the mess he has gotten himself into.
He loves her and would therefore rather protect her, even if it makes her apart from him and mad at him (seems like that's what he wants to keep her safe)!




Hey Faith.
You're the first person I know who would be happy either way and like both Safe and Ejami equally
I think Ari has something to do with it and possibly he could be protecting her, but personally I think it's more to it. When they dragged it out for too long, must be more exciting than that.
I think somebody who tried to kill Emily is still alive and Rafe's if Sami diggs too much into it that person could harm her and the children.
If he is doing everything just for Ari, I would be slightly dissapointed he didn't tell Sami, but I would understand. Because that's his sister. And I would do everything for my sister too. Even if it means keeping a secret from somebody else that I love.
I hope that Emily is not alive....
I don't think so either. Then he wouldn't have fallen so in love with Sami if his fiance is still alive?
But who knows with these writers some times

If you listen to Rafe's conversation with Ari at the pub, when she suggests that he could just figure out a way to maneuver around or manipulate Sami into distraction so that she would stop asking him about his past, he told her that not only didn't he want to do that, he couldn't. From what I've seen, the closer he and Sami have become, the harder it's become for Rafe to keep things from her, he's lost all of the distance that he's tried to keep. IMO he never intended to tell her anywhere near as much as he already has. If you watch both the scene where he initially tells her that Emily died on their wedding day, and the one where he explains that he was driving and crashed the car, you can see that Sami's persistence has worn him down. As good as Rafe is when it comes to interrogation, Sami has become just as skillful in getting him to cave when she's persistent and he knows it, which is part of the reason that he felt he needed to leave.

I also like the Sami that no longer begs and pleads and promises to change her ways in order to keep a man. She let Rafe know that she still loves him and wants him back, but she's not going to be pathetic about it.

Hi mihn, I know it's weird but I guess in my heart I will always love Ejami. They have always had such great chemistry together but at the same time Rafe seems to really love Sami too. I just want Sami to be happy for once and as long as it isn't Lucas I'm happy, lol.

I really hope Emily isn't alive but something tells me she is. My husband thinks she went into witness protection b/c of what she "found out" and Rafe let her go thinking he would never be able to be with her again in order to protect her. I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe Lawrence really has Emily somewhere, who knows. I just have a feeling she's coming back to screw things up with Rafe and Sami. But then EJ will be there to pick up the pieces of Sami's broken heart so I win either way, lol.