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"PARKS AND RECREATION"
"BEAUTY PAGEANT"



10/01/2009 (08:30PM - 09:00PM) (Thursday) : LESLIE JUDGES A LOCAL BEAUTY PAGEANT—LOUIS C.K ("LUCKY LOUIE") GUEST STARS—Leslie (Amy Poehler) looks forward to picking a new Miss Pawnee, but has to battle the other judges, who have a very different standard of "the ideal woman." While on a date with Mark (Paul Schneider), Ann (Rashida Jones) learns that Andy (Chris Pratt) has been living in the pit. Aziz Ansari, Aubrey Plaza, and Nick Offerman also star.

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vbarkley
Tom just kills me every time! I about peed my pants when he was spouting off all the bra sizes.

And how did I just realize Ann + Andy = Raggedy Ann & Andy? Or maybe now just Raggedy Andy.
vbarkley
I also loved how she immediately discounted dating the cop because he didn't know any of the famous political women. That would be me. laugh.gif

And how cute was it that he did his research? wub.gif
Nurfin
Another great episode. Funny. Sweet. Poignant...I noticed in the preview when the camera man panned away from Leslie to look at Trish's backside, Leslie said "Hey, over here! Keep your camera in your pants!" But in the episode she just said "Hey, over here!" I missed that extra line. Regardless, not too many flaws in this(at least none that I can think of). Keep up the good work people at P & R!
Wedd329
QUOTE (vbarkley @ Oct 1 2009, 08:47 PM) *
And how did I just realize Ann + Andy = Raggedy Ann & Andy? Or maybe now just Raggedy Andy.

I caught that, too!! Andy needs to get a clue.
Nurfin
QUOTE (Wedd329 @ Oct 2 2009, 07:14 AM) *
I caught that, too!! Andy needs to get a clue.



True but so does Ann...I just don't understand why she would all of a sudden like Mark. He doesn't seem changed from S1 to me. And in S1 he was kind of a scumbag. Andy took her for granted but all of his overt attempts at manipulation were not as cruel as what I think Mark might be considering (The Reporter).
BlueJeanBaby05
QUOTE (Nurfin @ Oct 2 2009, 07:27 AM) *
True but so does Ann...I just don't understand why she would all of a sudden like Mark. He doesn't seem changed from S1 to me. And in S1 he was kind of a scumbag. Andy took her for granted but all of his overt attempts at manipulation were not as cruel as what I think Mark might be considering (The Reporter).


See, I'm seeing a change, but perhaps I didn't think of him as much of a scumbag as you so there wasn't as much of a change needed. Sure, he's a little bit of a womanizer and he's kinda a wimp (when it comes to honesty), but there was a lot of good in him, too. Afterall, he's the first to believe in Leslie. He's the one that sees past her annoying side and see that she has a lot of enthusiasm and that that's a good thing. (Even if he still gets annoyed by her). But I don't actually want Mark to change too much. What I personally want is for Ann to bring out the best in Mark, a best that was already there.

I was trying to read Mark's face when Ann kicked Andy out. I wasn't sure if it was disgust. I was half expecting him to break it off with Ann after that. But it also could have been regret for coaxing Ann to bringing Andy back in.

I loved this episode and I am loving this show more and more and all it's characters. I actually think Leslie shined in this episode. I feel like we're getting the opportunity to understand her better.
Nurfin
QUOTE (BlueJeanBaby05 @ Oct 2 2009, 11:42 AM) *
See, I'm seeing a change, but perhaps I didn't think of him as much of a scumbag as you so there wasn't as much of a change needed. Sure, he's a little bit of a womanizer and he's kinda a wimp (when it comes to honesty), but there was a lot of good in him, too. Afterall, he's the first to believe in Leslie. He's the one that sees past her annoying side and see that she has a lot of enthusiasm and that that's a good thing. (Even if he still gets annoyed by her). But I don't actually want Mark to change too much. What I personally want is for Ann to bring out the best in Mark, a best that was already there.

I was trying to read Mark's face when Ann kicked Andy out. I wasn't sure if it was disgust. I was half expecting him to break it off with Ann after that. But it also could have been regret for coaxing Ann to bringing Andy back in.

I loved this episode and I am loving this show more and more and all it's characters. I actually think Leslie shined in this episode. I feel like we're getting the opportunity to understand her better.



I'm definitely gonna watch the episode again. To be fair I may be biased because even though Andy is a complete loser who is delusional (We had dinner tonight! laugh.gif ) Part of me is rooting for him to get it together, and at least impress Ann and make her reconsider him as a boyfriend.

One thing's certain all the characters in the show are becoming multi-faceted which makes watching the show a rewarding experience (especially multiple times). And I agree Leslie was kind of just a clown in the first season but every episode this year has revealed more of her humanity.

I didn't cry at the episode but there was an AWW moment when Leslie was watching Katie(?) play the piano...and also her budding relationship with the cop. (wub.gif I guess that's the proper emoticon to use...never used it before)
Wedd329
I haven't seen the sleazy Mark this season. But we haven't seen him in a social situation. I would have liked to have seen him at the beauty pageant. Then we could have judged him based on his reaction. He had a talking head in Pawnee Zoo (I'm pretty sure) when he said he literally hit bottom and he needed to make changes. So far, I think he has.
MrsPamBeasleyHalpert
I felt this was another strong showing for P&R. I'm really glad we got to see the adorable police man again and wasn't he just too cute for words?? He really showed back bone by going up to Leslie and laying it all out there (but maybe I'm just a sucker for that kind of stuff, I love Notting Hill and his speech did feel mighty "I'm just a girl, standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her"). The part where he just turns away from Leslie and is totally unaffected by Trish "The Hot One" who won the pagent was genious. I really loved watching that look of dawning on Leslie's face when she realized that just because he doesn't know who all of these famous female politicians are, it doesn't mean he doesn't value women for the right reasons.

Does anyone else get completely revolted by Tom?? I find his character getting old really fast. Much less Tom please! ...with that said ... the close with him and how he gives away copies of his apartment key was hilarious and probably the funniest thing of the night. Loved that.

The weakest part of the show for me was the subplot with Ann, Andy, and Mark. I really like Rashida - from her time on The Office and the hilarious I Love You Man - but her character is really boring. She also comes across to me as the most flat of all the characters ... can we get some backstory, a relative, friends ... something to make her more 3D ... animated characters have more life than she does!
Packer_Todd_F
No Ron Swanson???? FAIL!!!

Well, not totally as this was a great episode. I agree: the characters are interesting and developing nicely. I like Tom...more Tom! If he hadn't been a judge at the pageant, it would have been a waste.

Still not liking Ann and Mark. Oh well. Ron Effing Swanson better be back next week...
vbarkley
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I\'m definitely gonna watch the episode again. To be fair I may be biased because even though Andy is a complete loser who is delusional (We had dinner tonight! laugh.gif ) Part of me is rooting for him to get it together, and at least impress Ann and make her reconsider him as a boyfriend.

One thing\'s certain all the characters in the show are becoming multi-faceted which makes watching the show a rewarding experience (especially multiple times). And I agree Leslie was kind of just a clown in the first season but every episode this year has revealed more of her humanity.

I didn\'t cry at the episode but there was an AWW moment when Leslie was watching Katie(?) play the piano...and also her budding relationship with the cop. (wub.gif I guess that\'s the proper emoticon to use...never used it before)


I disagree, Andy is a loser, and Ann is well rid of him. He treated her like crap and she let him, so clearly they are not good for each other. To me, they are Pam and Roy 2.0.

wub.gif Aww, our little Nurfin is growing up!!!! biggrin.gif


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Does anyone else get completely revolted by Tom?? I find his character getting old really fast. Much less Tom please! ...with that said ... the close with him and how he gives away copies of his apartment key was hilarious and probably the funniest thing of the night. Loved that.
No, I think Tom is hilarious! I think we have the perfect amount of Tom - no more, no less. smile.gif
Nurfin
I can make my bed and tie my shoes all by myself now too!! laugh.gif

QUOTE (vbarkley @ Oct 5 2009, 01:29 AM) *
I disagree, Andy is a loser, and Ann is well rid of him. He treated her like crap and she let him, so clearly they are not good for each other. To me, they are Pam and Roy 2.0.



Yeah I know he is now...I guess I just am hopeful. He is very similar to Roy except Roy had a violent temper...I don't think Andy has had an outburst of that type yet. If he does, I would say that glimmer of hope that I have for him would probably be gone. (also to me Roy's temper is/was much more dangerous that Andy Bernard's because it's that "I'm gonna kill Jim Halpert"/slow burn type...I just wanted to make that clarification)

I watched the episode again. Tis' great indeed. A couple things...first off I feel pretty bad/sleazy almost as much as Tom Haverford for forgetting Susan's name. In real life I would gravitate to someone like her much more so than someone like Trish. I remembered Trish more because a lot of the funny of this episode revolved around her. Anyway, sorry Susan. As for Mark...well he's not as sleazy now as he was in S1 but I'm just not totally convinced that he's completely a good guy yet...he's gonna have to show me more/stick his neck out for something/someone before I change my mind...and it's not like I think Andy's perfect...it's just that...well he can only go up from here, right? Figuratively AND literally.
Wedd329
QUOTE (Nurfin @ Oct 5 2009, 10:32 AM) *
Yeah I know he is now...I guess I just am hopeful. He is very similar to Roy except Roy had a violent temper...I don't think Andy has had an outburst of that type yet.


Yes, but Andy is definitely more stalker-like and deluded. That may prove to be just as dangerous.
BlueJeanBaby05
^^^ you're right. That can be very scary. I hope it doesn't go that direction, though.

I kinda like Andy, too. There's something about him that's lovable. (That being said, I might be the only one that likes Mark for Anne.)
Diapers
I'm liking it. Each episode is a little better than the last, and I like how they've been using the "ripped from today's headlines" approach for some of their jokes. The "hot one" was supposed to be a combination of Miss. California and Miss. South Carolina (and maybe a wet t-shirt contestant or something). They played it pretty safe, but the joke was still funny.

I have issues with how the documentary aspect is handled. Shouldn't they be concentrating more on the inner workings of a small town's government than a nurse's love life? It's not a major complaint. It's more of an observation. P&R didn't have much choice after The Office set the precedent. I just think it would have been nice to know more about their work life before we learned about their personal lives.
MrsPamBeasleyHalpert
QUOTE (Wedd329 @ Oct 5 2009, 12:51 PM) *
Yes, but Andy is definitely more stalker-like and deluded. That may prove to be just as dangerous.

I completely agree. Andy is very worrisome. I think it is natural to hope for the best and to think the best of people, and you always want to root for someone to overcome their past and grow ... but the guy is sleeping in a pit to be close to his ex girlfriend. A restraining order probably should be in the back of Ann's mind if he doesn't get a place soon.
vbarkley
QUOTE (Nurfin @ Oct 5 2009, 10:32 AM) *
I can make my bed and tie my shoes all by myself now too!! laugh.gif
I'm so proud of you! tongue.gif


QUOTE (Wedd329 @ Oct 5 2009, 12:51 PM) *
Yes, but Andy is definitely more stalker-like and deluded. That may prove to be just as dangerous.
Except I think Andy is too lazy/unmotivated to do more than follow Ann around.

I think the show is really starting to hit its stride, and has improved a lot from S1.
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