I know, I know... you are all going to yell at me for this one.
But I just love the actress who plays Nicole and now they are making her seem so human and attached to her little Sydney. I find myself getting sad that she will be losing her baby soon. I don't want her to go to Sami.

Also, as weird as it sounds, I just don't see any chemistry between Sami and Sydney when they are on screen together.

The babies that play Sydney seem to be very attached to Ari.

I like the character of Nicole too, but I don't feel bad about her losing Sydney. What she did was awful, and keeping Sydney would not be right. I have no doubt that they will redeem Nicole's character somehow. They always do, and I think that she's a keeper on the show. I'm looking forward to her new storylines and hopefuly they will include lots of humour. Ari is a good comedian, she always cracks me up when she has funny lines.

so agree with you

Uhh nope dont feel bad at all. Nicole is a pathetic excuse for a human being. To let Sami think her baby died, and to not tell Mia that her baby really DID die...come on, shes got so much coming to her and I cant wait till her world crumbles right in front of her. She deserves everything she gets.

Okay I have to type this how cute is baby Sydney this kid is so funny with out even trying. I love all the dirty little looks she gives the grown ups sometimes. lol

I feel for Nicole she is one of my favs and I want her to at least be redeemed and with Brady that's all I want. If Sydney ever turned out to be hers I'd go with it for a lot of reasons but I'm actually tired of typing them out. It would be a big mistake on TPTB's part to let Arianne Zuker slip through their fingers and I feel that the character she plays has many more stories to be told.

Sorry. I do not feel sorry for Nicole one. bit. She deserves all the hell that she's going to pay for what she did. She was heartless in her actions. I hope Sydney goes straight to Sami. That's where she should have been from day one.

I do love the actress that plays Nicole, so I hope they can redeem her in some way that won't down play what she did. They should make her suffer for awhile and then slowly bring her back up. That's the only way.

Welcome to the board! And you won't get yelled at by me. I love Nicole, and hate what might happen. She has bonded with Sydney, as Sydney has bonded with her. It's going to be a terrible situation for both of them.

I'm still holding onto the hope that Stefano arranged the "miscarriage" and Dr. Rolf brought Nicole's baby to term in an incubator. I further hope that when Nicole thought she was switching Mia's baby for Sami's, it was actually her baby. There may have been more than one reason for Steffie to arrange for Dr. Baker's "murder." It could have been a way for Steffie to get possession of Sami's baby and Rolf could be caring for Sami's baby and programming her to be a true DiMera...


And welcome to you, too, Vplus3...even though we aren't on the same page on this.

I really don't want Nicole separated from Sydney either. They are perfect together.

I feel bad for Nicole because she thought of her baby as a miracle baby, and the damnnnnn writers decided that it would be the one to die.. Not that I would want Sydney to die nor baby Grace. I think that they just came up with a lame story.. All babies should have survived, even if there was a baby switch they could have least made it worth while..

Nicole was truely torn when she lost her baby, and all it did was turn her into an obsessive mom whom wanted a baby.. It still ticks me off, can you tell??

Now, because of the writers stupidity, not only is Sami going to go through hellll yet again, but Nicole and Sydney are going to be separated because of it.. I really do think that Nicole is going to go on the deep end, and hasn't she had enough drama, put on her life already? The drama may be have been self inflicted, and/or put on her by her sick flippen so called father, but enough is enough..

side note: In real life Ari is just glowing and starting to show even through the clothes... I'm loving it, her and her hubby make such a perfect couple, I can't wait to see what the babe looks like..

I do not feel sorry for her at all! She got herself in the mess she in; and to catch a guy! No sympathy here. Am a bit surprised anyone would, if your baby was switched on purpose would you understand the "kidnappers" point of view, and feel sorry for them...Nicole not only needs to worry about EJ and Sami finding out - but this is illegal. Which is how I think AZ pregnancy will fit in. Salem time is not real time, so they could write her as being either in jail, or in a mental facility.

I have mixed feelings about Nicole. One the one hand what she did was so wrong on so many levels that she needs to be held accountable. She stole a baby from her mother, that is awful. Sorry to offend but it doesn't matter if it's Sami's first baby or her sixth one stealing a baby from her mother... come on it's just wrong. Yes Sami kept baby Grace away from EJ and yes it was wrong but two wrongs do not make a right.

One the other hand I do feel sorry for her, she lost her baby and can't have another. It must be torture for her. Plus her and baby Sydney are too darn cute together I can't help but to have that awww moment.

I would like to see Nicole pay the price for that in one form or another, be redeemed and find love (with Brady).

To your side note, yes this baby has a great genetic makeup. And she seems very pregnant looking already. Has anyone heard if the baby is a boy or girl?

I feel sorry that she lost her baby; but, from that point on ......NO....she is and always has been right up there with Kate being the most snarky, hateful character only out for herself.

I don't care where they send her so long as they send her for a long time. At least time for Sydney to forget her and Sami to have bonded. Everyone keeps saying what a bad mother Sami is and I take offense to that. The scripts don't seem to show her with the kids the way they do Nicole and I find that wrong on so many levels.

I sincerely hope that Brady finds his brains and runs screaming away from Nicole. I want to see the whole of Salem to treat her as the virus she is and if stoning in the streets were still done, then do it.

you guys are too funny!! you love nicole because she is a villan so let her be the villan!!
i am sure once sammi and sydney are re united it will open up all kinds of mischief for nicole.
i am all for sammi - i was a ejami now a safe - and i love to hate nicole ...
that is why she is so good .. she makes us love to watch so we can get mad at her!

AMEN!you are 100 percent right!i couldnt agree more thank 4 making this thread!so true!sami and sydney dont have the same chemistry as nicole and sydney heck i even forgot sydney was actually well...ill stop myself there!im not gonna say it!its so wrong! ejoleney 4ever!

AZ and the writers have done such a good job with Nicole I can't make my mind up about her for more than 5 minutes at a time. -

I hate she lost her own baby, and feel bad she was so insecure she thought she'd lose her husband if he knew. Then she gets all threatening with Mia and I get peeved with her. Then EJ treats her like poo and I feel bad again. Then she screws with Brady's head again and I'm mad again.....


I think this may be the one character I'm willing to let the writers surprise me with, I could get behind so many of the options. I think I'm leaning most toward wanting her baby to actually be alive somehow somewhere, it would also help explain Stephano's involvement more completely.

I'm just very glad they are finally resolving this now and we don't have to wait for Sydney to fall for Rafe and Sami's son Shaun-Carlos and then they have to be kept apart.........

Funny, I have posted almost these same thoughts,unfortunately mine was moved . Anything could be true in Salem and with tptb. Sydney or Grace could have been birthed by any of the three women with any of the three men-EJ,Chad, or Lucas. Who really knows, maybe we could have another deal with Lumi like with Shelle when Claire was concieved. Anything can happen. Nothing may be as it seems.

Kyle Lowder posted on his twitter that it's a girl

Me, too! No matter how it goes, you know AZ is gonna rock whatever they give her to play. That's why I love Nicole!

And welcome to you and all the other newbies
I also love Nicole and she seems like baby Sydney is most attached to her of the people on the set, so I wish Nicole didn't have to lose her, but we all know where this storyline is gonna go unfortunately.
Hope the writers read Nole's ideas, it could be great if that was the way this sl was going, but doubt it, (we also thought a lot of interesting things would happen when Chloe came out of coma, like amnesia and that she would be scared of Dr. Dan, unfortunately did not happen)!

So we'll just have to wait and see.

Maybe there's no chemistry because Baby Sydney was was snatched from Sami's womb by Baker and Nicole. Sydney is not Nicole's baby I don't care how much she wants it to be, stealing a baby cannot make it yours, I believe that is still called kidnapping. When I look at Sydney looks like she's saying "Take me to my real mommy please!

I can't see Nicole redeemed for all the deceitful things she has done in the name of greed to keep the life she has going for her right now. No, I don't feel sorry for Nicole and I can still remember her ready to kill Tony as he lay dying and Lexie walking in asking what she was doing. I doubt any one of you could give Nicole a pass if you were walking in Samis shoes. She let Sami go through the horrors of thinking she lost Grace, not to mention her own husband. Poor Mia never got to know Grace was her baby. Just about her whole pregnancy has been one big lie after another, and when the secret does come out, I can just imagine the many lives that will be affected by her.

First she did loose Grace. She had that baby for the 4 or so months of her life-- you think if she was told now or at that time that the baby wasn't hers she would be aching over the loss any less, you're wrong.

And by the way,

Sami dumped EJ. Sami dumped EJ.

Sami dumped EJ.

by the way did I mention Sami dumped EJ, long before Nicole and EJ were actually together. EJ told Nicole she was gonna marry him, when she tried to back out of it, not to mention informing her on who her friends should be. Sami got an anullment. If they end up back together, and he doesn't stop being excessively compulsively extremely controlling and just a monster, the relationship won't last no time.

I`ll feel sorry for daniel because of kate torment first before I ever feel sorry for Nicole

[quote name='bigrafefan' date='Sep 19 2009, 03:30 PM' post='4089492']
First she did loose Grace. She had that baby for the 4 or so months of her life-- you think if she was told now or at that time that the baby wasn't hers she would be aching over the loss any less, you're wrong.

And by the way,

Sami dumped EJ. Sami dumped EJ.

Sami dumped EJ.

by the way did I mention Sami dumped EJ, long before Nicole and EJ were actually together. EJ told Nicole she was gonna marry him, when she tried to back out of it, not to mention informing her on who her friends should be. Sami got an anullment. If they end up back together, and he doesn't stop being excessively compulsively extremely controlling and just a monster, the relationship won't last no time.
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By the way I know Sami dumped Ej, Sami dumped Ej...did I mention Sami dumped Ej. What does what I wrote have anything to do with this? I didn't say SAMI was married to Ej...I said Nicole didn't have the decency to tell her husband the truth even when Grace died. Nothing, Nada to do with Sami.

And yes I know Sami would have taken losing Grace hard because she had her since birth...but none of this would have happened if Nicole never did this in the first place and not taken Sydney from her. You must have Ej on your mind because my blog was talking about Nicoles husband. Ej had nothing to do with my blog.
My quote " I doubt any would give Nicole a pass if they were walking in Samis shoes." My mistake was using the word "thinking." But I know how Sami felt and the horror and sadness she went through.

You're not alone...I feel bad for Nicole too...she's one of my favorites.
Like alot of of other posted said...what she did was wrong...and she will pay for it (I think moreso emotionally, and that's sometimes the strongest conviction).

Also...like many posters stated...I think someway...somehow...there will be redemption for her character (and hopefully a baby of her own).

i hear ya!!:)

I feel bad for Nicole.

I am not looking forward to her losing Sydney. Honestly if she had to choose, I think she would rather let EJ go than Sydney.

It was heartwrenching watching her lose her baby the first time. And Sami's already got three kids.

I know what Nicole did was wrong and I know she will have to pay for it. It's the right thing to do. But I still feel for her and I sympathize with her more.

In the big scheme of things I can't wait to see Nicole get caught. She deserves everything that's going to come her way.

That said, I can't wait to see her rise to the top again, hopefully with Brady.

In the hands of a less talented actress Nicole would be a one note character. One everyone hated or just rolled their eyes at, but AZ is amazing and has added layers and depth to a character who has been written so one note.

I definetly feel bad for her. I think she should have had her baby, it was the one person that truly would have changed her for the better. I will definetly be sad when Sydney is ripped from her arms. You can tell she loves that lil girl but she's wrong so she's gonna have to pay the price. My wish is that her baby is somewhere alive and she finds her or she gets pregnant again and have her own baby. I never thought I'd want Nicole to be a mother. LOL!

Ditto. I felt for her when she miscarried, but other than that, she gets no pity from me whatsoever. She did this for entirely selfish reasons, not out of love. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - she wants to take all she can from Sami, including her child, so as to keep EJ to herself and to have a share of the DiMera fortune. She had no interest in children before she got pregnant, she could barely take care of Pookie. I have a feeling that if it hadn't been EJ's baby she wouldn't have made such a big deal about it. Recall how EJ had a paternity test done on Nicole's baby? He knew what kind of woman he was dealing with, which is why he insisted on having proof that he was the father. Nicole knows that EJ doesn't really love her and never will, so she knew when she lost the baby that she had to get a replacement or else EJ would eventually leave her. When she found Mia, it was a perfect way to get an infant to pass of as EJ's, until she found out about Sami's pregnancy. So she set out to steal Sydney from her mother and give Sami Mia's baby because it suited her plans better. Nicole did this for herself and no one else, no matter how she tries to justify it in her mind. Her treatment of Mia is despicable, letting the poor girl think that her baby is alive when in fact the child died, and Nicole saw how Mia bonded with Grace, how Mia suffered when Grace was sick (as did Sami) and she still did nothing. Just as horrible is letting Sami and EJ think that their child is dead. How cruel is that? Those innocent babies didn't deserve any of this. Yes, Sydney has bonded with Nicole, and no doubt that child will suffer when Nicole is exposed, but again, it's all Nicole's doing. She stole that child from her mother, and EJ and Sami would not be suffering pain over losing Grace if Nicole hadn't decided to play god. So, zero pity for Nicole from me. She does not deserve to be rewarded with baby after everything she's pulled. I don't think she should be a mother at all, unless it turns out that somehow either Melanie or Mia could be a child that she had in her teens. I don't want to see her in close proximity of a small child ever again. But maybe that's just me.

I don't think AZ is going anywhere anytime soon and she is a good actress. I have to agree that I don't know if I would love to hate the character so much if a lesser actress had played the role. I can't wait to see the performances all around when the entire reveal comes out.

This is what I would like to see happen.
I feel bad for Nicole too. Ari is an awesome actress.
I also feel bad for Sami thinking that her baby has died when she is really alive. And I feel bad for Mia. When she finds out it was really her baby that died, that will be sad.

You are so right!!!

I do feel sorry for Nicole, and hope someone takes pity on her.... I still think her baby loss may have been due to something shady. The whole thing about Argentina at the last moment, the chocolates in the cabin from EJ, the premature delivery-- everything just seemed unsettling, definitely definitely not accusing EJ.

I cannot feel sorry for EJ for his wife manipulating him like she's been doing, what comes around, goes around; turnabout is fair play. But I do feel for Sami mourning Grace unnecessarily, no baby switch, no baby loss. EJ would have loss a baby with or without the baby switch, either the one Nicole was carrying or the one adopted, or both. EJ plays a great villian and is a good father (this is why I didn't agree with Sami keeping the baby she believed to his away from him, but I understood it), but he is not believable as a victim. And he manipulated Nicole into falling for him, and marrying him. So there goes more sorry points racked up for Nicole.

Rafe, poor Rafe, he blamed himself for not being at the hospital sooner the night Grace died, he blamed himself for him surviving and her dying, and Friday we saw him blame himself for the baby switch. It was something like, "if I would have been there, none of this would've happen." He needs to stop falling on his sword. There are things he's done to feel sorry for the ones listed above are not any of them.

If EJ is gonna be with Sami, puke hurl vomit, he's gonna have to do some major changing.

I`m serious, I would never feel sorry for that witch. You know I am serious when I compared daniel to nicole

What Nole said!

Oh no! I would be livid if Nicole's baby was still alive somewhere!!! I know this is a soap so stranger things have happened, but I just can not see how that would help anything. A better idea would be more like having Nicole and Brady get back together and then Nicole get preggers by him and that pregnancy sticks because they are meant to be. Or something sappy like that.

Welcome to the board! But with Stefano in the mix...anything is possible...

This is how I feel as well.

I feel really badly for Nicole I also hope they bring back her baby. Maybe Stephano can have her stashed with Celeste somewhere in Europe. I hope they redeem Nicole because she is one of the few really good actresses on Dool right now. I hope they redeem Kate too because that story is silly.

I agree, with Stefano anything is possible. BUT, the writers have spent months getting us to hate Nicole for what she did to everyone is Salem. For her to wind up getting off free, (which we all know she will), and getting a baby with EJ would just not be right. In fact it would be pretty ludicrous and would make a lot of people give up on the show. I would say the vast majority of viewers want Nicole to pay for what she did. Not get everything she ever wanted.

She can pay and then get what she wants. She wants a child of her own and I for one would love for her child to be alive. I hate that she has a dead baby cause I feel like she should have had her baby. I'd also love for Grace to be alive but I know we can't have two miracles.

QUOTE (sliderwnf @ Sep 19 2009, 12:38 AM)

I feel bad for Nicole because she thought of her baby as a miracle baby, and the damnnnnn writers decided that it would be the one to die.. Not that I would want Sydney to die nor baby Grace. I think that they just came up with a lame story.. All babies should have survived, even if there was a baby switch they could have least made it worth while..

Nicole was truely torn when she lost her baby, and all it did was turn her into an obsessive mom whom wanted a baby.. It still ticks me off, can you tell??

Now, because of the writers stupidity, not only is Sami going to go through hellll yet again, but Nicole and Sydney are going to be separated because of it.. I really do think that Nicole is going to go on the deep end, and hasn't she had enough drama, put on her life already? The drama may be have been self inflicted, and/or put on her by her sick flippen so called father, but enough is enough..

side note: In real life Ari is just glowing and starting to show even through the clothes... I'm loving it, her and her hubby make such a perfect couple, I can't wait to see what the babe looks like..

So Sami has already has three kids so it's OK to let one go, how ridiciouls is that! I feel nothing but disgust for Nicole, her end motive was to trap EJ, and she knew she needed a baby to do that, first it was Mia's baby, but when she found out about Sami's baby it was paydirt! Let's not forget that!

Geez lets redeem everybody and close down Salem PD. Why should these people not pay for their cimes I don't get it. While were at let's redeem that guy whom kidnapped Ciarra too!

Great Post! Agree 100%

I think she had a two part motive here...it wasn't entirely to trap EJ it was partly to do something to hurt Sami. The reason I say that is because she obviously loved Brady so why would she decide while loving Brady to stick with EJ? To me...Brady also has money...so the money issue isn't the motive as it always is with Nicole--for staying with EJ...I think primarily she always has to win over Sami...and that is her motive with both the baby and Elvis. I think she would have been happy with Brady even if Victor didn't agree.

And I do feel bad for her and I for one believe her baby isn't dead....we'll have to wait and see.

I think that what Nicole did was horrible and yes she should face the consequences, but I can't help but feel sorry for her. AZ has done such a wonderful job with the material that she has been given and she's made me sympathize with her even when I don't agree with what she did.

I think the difference in chemistry between Nicole and Sydney is obviously there because AZ's been working with that baby for a while now and has been able to form a bond. I would hope that TPTB have been letting Ali spend time with the baby so when S&S are finally reunited as mother and daughter the bond will be there.