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skytech11
Sylar is going to become a "hero" during this episode!
He will be rid of the Sylar personna that is currently in Matt.. Blank Slate!
He will have all of his powers but will no longer have the hunger Dun dun da!
He may continue as Nate, but maybe as Sylar as well. Can't call that one.
He will however remain as a cast member and be the heart of the finale! Sylar VS the Carnival!
That's it! I've said it and want the credit if it transpires.
Sorry Benology if I beat you to it! laugh.gif
cjopbj
Sounds good to me. But what of Matt? Will he turn pure evil? He actually has the potential to be as dangerous as Sylar. He could have people kill each other. Make them jump out of windows, crash planes, suicide bomb whatever.

Ultimately somehow the Sylar/hunger that is inside Matt must be destroyed. Does that mean Matt dies, too? My prediction is that this is where Hiro comes in. He is dying anyway. He could take the evil within him then kill himself. That way Matt - who is a husband and dad - lives.

Just my 2 cents.
skytech11
QUOTE (cjopbj @ Oct 10 2009, 10:39 PM) *
Sounds good to me. But what of Matt? Will he turn pure evil? He actually has the potential to be as dangerous as Sylar. He could have people kill each other. Make them jump out of windows, crash planes, suicide bomb whatever.

Ultimately somehow the Sylar/hunger that is inside Matt must be destroyed. Does that mean Matt dies, too? My prediction is that this is where Hiro comes in. He is dying anyway. He could take the evil within him then kill himself. That way Matt - who is a husband and dad - lives.

Just my 2 cents.

I think Matt will actually "kill" the Sylar bit he has absorbed.
Hiro has no way of doing that. At least I hope not. I like Hiro! Hiro will be cured by a "Healer".
Nathan and Sylar will probably "share" the screentime after Matt takes out the "Ghost" Sylar.
cjopbj
QUOTE (skytech11 @ Oct 11 2009, 12:00 AM) *
I think Matt will actually "kill" the Sylar bit he has absorbed.
Hiro has no way of doing that. At least I hope not. I like Hiro! Hiro will be cured by a "Healer".
Nathan and Sylar will probably "share" the screentime after Matt takes out the "Ghost" Sylar.


Maybe. The Hiro is dying story is the most poorly developed story in Heroes. It seems forced so having him heal would be equally shallow. I find the direction of Hiro since season 1 to be the most frustrating of any character. He never has become the ponytailed, sword master we expected. Rather, he is comic relief.
cjopbj
Actually, I think the Hiro somehow does have to destroy the evil Sylar. His story this season seems to be about rectifing his mistakes. The biggest mistake he ever made - the one with the greatest ramifications - was not killing Sylar when he had the chance. Not killing Sylar in Mrs. Grey's apartment. There's no coming back from a beheading (at least not until he acquired Clare's ability.) Clearly what he did at Kirby Plaza didn't do the trick.
flyingchimp
If hiro did do that... they'd have to rewrite like 50% of Heroes...
Peterfangirl86
Dude, I'd hate that idea. It should be Heroes V.S the Carnvial people. And maybe Gabrile working with the Heroes to help defeat them. That'd be the best way to end this Volume. Than have it be Evil Sylar waking up, trying to kill Angela. Peter saves Angela, Sylar tells every one around him Peter/Mohinder/Claire/Hiro/Ando that Nathans been dead all along and that he's been Nathan. Every one gets upset at Angela/Noah/Matt for that stuff and leaves them alone. Matt/Noah get upset at Angela for getting them into the mess and leave her alone. Sylar sneaks up behind Angela and tells her no one cares about her, not even her own son and slices her head opean, killing Angela. End of Volume 4. That's how I think the Volume should end.
tidho
Sylar becoming a Hero is a bad idea. They tried it during Villians and that entire chapter was a disaster.

I think Syler needs to continue to be self serving and independent until he's taken out by Hiro as he goes down in a blaze of glory, and finally fulfills his destiny.

So far no one has a motive to go after the Carnival people. It isn't clear what they themselves are after. It certainly isn't wealth and power as was the case (either of) the Company.

I think we're going to see Joseph (dead carny) tied into the original 12 founders somehow which could motivate the Heroes to unite. I haven't seen any clues toward this or any motive for the Heroes to join HRG's efforts, just speculating.
heroesforme
Moved this topic, since there are no real spoilers in here, just speculation on future developments.
RaoGung
QUOTE (skytech11 @ Oct 10 2009, 08:46 PM) *
Sylar is going to become a "hero" during this episode!
He will be rid of the Sylar personna that is currently in Matt.. Blank Slate!
He will have all of his powers but will no longer have the hunger Dun dun da!
He may continue as Nate, but maybe as Sylar as well. Can't call that one.
He will however remain as a cast member and be the heart of the finale! Sylar VS the Carnival!
That's it! I've said it and want the credit if it transpires.
Sorry Benology if I beat you to it! laugh.gif


I agree. They'll do the whole is he good or bad thing AGAIN!
And then Matt will finally restore Sylar persona to his body (or Sylar forces him to), and he goes bad and kills most of the new cast members by season finale.

He most likely (at least I hope so) will pretend to be Nate and push on to become president just like in four years later (because next year it will be four years later). Matt will most likely join with Sylar like he did in that future as well. This isn't out of character, Matt would be doing what he always does, look out of his own interests. Sorry Matt is no hero.

I agree about Hiro's story sucking. I could write several pages on the subject and probably will.

While the future Hiro is what Hiro could become in a darker future, the real Hiro Nakamura is something inbetween. A pure spirit and a warrior. Hiro hesitated to kill Sylar back season one because he wasn't armed with the facts. He had to take it on the word of a comic book that he was the bad guy and had to die. I don't think anyone would see that as anything less than murder in that situation.

After he saw the future and understood his role he didn't hesitate to kill Sylar (or at least his attempt). Hiro is about honor and purity his true character is the white knight, a paladin, and true champion walking with conviction and virtue to stop evil. He would use sword to cut down the bad guys that need stoping, his power to travel through time to grant him insight on the past and the future, and the catalist (oh yeah we lost that...) a reflection of his purity of spirit, since it was some divine holy power. His protection of the catalist would prove the value and strength of his word. But we know what the writers think of that.... ~sigh~ Though that's the Hiro I expected to see.

The path they have taken Hiro frustrates me more so than anything, you would think they would the only true hero next to Peter with a little dignity. sad.gif
SylarBites
QUOTE (skytech11 @ Oct 10 2009, 08:46 PM) *
Sylar is going to become a "hero" during this episode!
He will be rid of the Sylar personna that is currently in Matt.. Blank Slate!

First of all, it depends on who/what you mean by "Sylar"......
Ther is, currently,
a) the Sy-Bod. Original Body of Sylar, once shapeshifted into form of Nate Petrelli. Shot full of bullet holes by Swoozie Kurtz (Angela's evil 'friend')' s henchman. Resurrected with seemingly blank memory.
cool.gif Ghost Sylar. A vision of "Sylar" that is mostly in Matt Parkman's head. Clearly acts like a second personality within Parkman. Evil. Murderous. And gaining more and more access to EVERYTHING that is Matt Parkman....
c) "SyNathan", or "Snate" for short. Take your pick, it's either a) the 'soul' of Nathan Petrelli, clumsily 'dumped' into the SyBod by Parkman, or cool.gif ala "Total Recall", a Parkman-generated Alternate Personality within Sylar's brain, one that the whole of Gabriel Gray really wants to be....
d) Classic Sylar. The Evil, self-serving socipath we've known for most of the run of Hereoes. Clearly not what's going on now.

My take? Don't trust Samuel. One of two things are possible: Either Samuel REALLY thinks he could control Classic Sylar, should he come 'back', or Sammy and his crew could make anything Sylar ever did look like a traffic violation by comparison. Imagine this 'family' going back several generations, killing and kidnapping whoever they please......

As for me, I'm rooting for SyNathan to escape the Sullivan Bros Carnival. And that won't be easy, because there almost literally is nowhere he can go that they can't follow....
Tampafan82
QUOTE (cjopbj @ Oct 10 2009, 11:04 PM) *
Maybe. The Hiro is dying story is the most poorly developed story in Heroes. It seems forced so having him heal would be equally shallow. I find the direction of Hiro since season 1 to be the most frustrating of any character. He never has become the ponytailed, sword master we expected. Rather, he is comic relief.



I agree hiro almost makes me want to stop watching. He is the most frusterating person on the show. I really wish he would be done with all this im gonna die business. he's not gonna die and it just sucks to see him affraid to use his powers. i just the hiro from season 1 back trying to save the world.
TEvil
QUOTE (skytech11 @ Oct 10 2009, 09:46 PM) *
He will have all of his powers but will no longer have the hunger Dun dun da!

Sorry Benology if I beat you to it! laugh.gif


I'm touched.... you "dun dun'd"

lol

i think your pretty on though
S-Factor
QUOTE (TEvil @ Oct 21 2009, 03:31 PM) *
I'm touched.... you "dun dun'd"

lol

i think your pretty on though


What's to say they flip the whole SyNathan thing into. Nathan taking over the old Sylar body but because of Nathan's refined morals. The new Nathan goes after bad supers ala' Sylar under the new goal of stopping supers who use their power for evil. This way we get Sylar in a twisted perverse way.
synch
QUOTE (skytech11 @ Oct 10 2009, 08:46 PM) *
Sorry Benology if I beat you to it! laugh.gif


Well, to really pull a Benelogy you now have to point out how you were actually right in your prediction....despite the fact that, on the surface, it looks like you were completely wrong. lol
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