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LuvingLUMI
QUOTE (Shanda @ Oct 21 2009, 07:00 AM) *
Chemistry is in the eye of the beholder! I see none with EJ and Sami but some do. I see none with Philip and Stepanie but some do, I see lots with Rafe and Sami some don't, I see lots with Arianna and Brady but some dont, I see lots with EJ

ITA with your post. I've never seen the "chemistry" between Ej and Sami. I saw a man that manipulated Sami's EVERY move and decision for 3 years. I saw a man so obsessed with her that he would even attempt to kill her husband to get him out of the way. I never liked EJ and Sami because of that and I saw way more chemistry between Sami and Lucas than I ever saw with Ej and Sami. When Lucas and Sami admitted to their love they weren't manipulating each other, it was heart felt and sincere and he loved her despite everything he knew she was capable of. He loved both her twins when he thought they were both Ej's, he told her, "those are your babies and I'll love them as my own because I love you". That is a real man and a father, Lucas is imperfect but he's way better father that Ej will ever be.
kemmies120
Ok I love Ejami and it is upsetting to me that they are not together yet, but I'm looking forward to the Ej meltdown. I love this character and all his layers. he's so complicated. Whats more is you know that James will ROCK those scenes. I can't wait! I love watching all the angst, this emotional rollercoaster he's on is played to perfection by him. A total emmy winning performance and I hope that they continue writing Ej complex, divided, vulnerable, angry, vengeful and heartbroken. Because it allows James to act and I mean really act, because he's really got it in him! And then when all this is done find a way back to Sami, since i feel that these two are destined.
kayc
Well I had no doubt that Sami would get back with Rafe. I'm glad she gets her baby back and we can move on from this S/L. Don't know how anyone thought this would reunite EJ and Sami. sly.gif Sami can now protect one of her children from Dimera influence... now all she has to do is find a way to get Johnny out of there.
I wonder who will get Nicole out of jail? I guess the actress isn't going to be gone for long.
I too have to wonder about KC's big twist... staying tuned in.
LuvinDays
I like the character of Rafe and I think Galen is a great actor. I think that Rafe is really a good person and I like that he was there for Sami and her children during the hardest moments of their lives.

With that said, I DO NOT think that Rafe should become Sami's childrens primary caregiver/father figure. The word "stepfather" keeps getting thrown around, but he is not even that to these children. He is their mother's boyfriend. He should not be caring for the kids every need like he has in the past. These children have Lucas and EJ as their fathers. I understand that Lucas and EJ may not always be emotionally available, but they love their children and should be written to be more involved then they are. I think that it was poor judgement to have mom's boyfriend move into the home. I don't think that Rafe is intentionally overstepping his boundaries as a father figure but, in my opinion this character is being written to play too large of a role in Will,Allie,Johnny, and now Sydney's lives. I agree that he should have cared for Grace because she didn't have a father figure in her life. JMO!

Like I said, I think that the flaws in this storyline are because these people are being written out of character not because of wrong intentions or lack of caring.
kayc
QUOTE (thesun @ Oct 21 2009, 06:33 AM) *
Rafe is cute. However, he doesn't have the same charisma as compared to EJ with Sami. Count me in. I will also FF any "SAFE" scenes. They are completely boring to watch. OH, back to snorefest alright. What is wrong with these writers? EJ and Sami actually have the real chemistry and yet they are going to be sacrifice because the writers are too afraid to take a chance. Good grief!!! Doesn't chemistry matter on this show? Rafe and Sami just don't have any sexual chemistry whatsoever...Thank goodness for youtube. Yada, yada, yada...

Well now chemistry is in the eye of the beholder and personally EJami makes me sick to my stomach... maybe some of the writers feel the same way.
kayc
QUOTE (StefanoROCKS @ Oct 21 2009, 11:54 AM) *
Here's my guess as to how this is going to play out (condensed):
Sami & Rafe reunite.
EJ's not happy that his daughter is with Safe, but he plays along - following rules for visitation, etc.
EJ & Ari hook up (through their drug-dealing business), Rafe finds out and he is unhappy.
Rafe talks to Sami about EJ & Ari; putting down EJ.
Sami defends EJ, which in turn pizzes off Rafe again and opens the door for EJ & Sami.

Nah I don't think so. Sami has already listened to Rafe put down EJ and she agreed.
kayc
QUOTE (LuvinDays @ Oct 21 2009, 01:18 PM) *
I like the character of Rafe and I think Galen is a great actor. I think that Rafe is really a good person and I like that he was there for Sami and her children during the hardest moments of their lives.

With that said, I DO NOT think that Rafe should become Sami's childrens primary caregiver/father figure. The word "stepfather" keeps getting thrown around, but he is not even that to these children. He is their mother's boyfriend. He should not be caring for the kids every need like he has in the past. These children have Lucas and EJ as their fathers. I understand that Lucas and EJ may not always be emotionally available, but they love their children and should be written to be more involved then they are. I think that it was poor judgement to have mom's boyfriend move into the home. I don't think that Rafe is intentionally overstepping his boundaries as a father figure but, in my opinion this character is being written to play too large of a role in Will,Allie,Johnny, and now Sydney's lives. I agree that he should have cared for Grace because she didn't have a father figure in her life. JMO!

Like I said, I think that the flaws in this storyline are because these people are being written out of character not because of wrong intentions or lack of caring.


This is true Sami's children have fathers... but IF Sami marries Rafe and spends her life with him I think he should be allowed to help her raise them when they are with her. I mean that's what stepparent's do.
LuvingLUMI
QUOTE (LuvinDays @ Oct 21 2009, 01:18 PM) *
I like the character of Rafe and I think Galen is a great actor. I think that Rafe is really a good person and I like that he was there for Sami and her children during the hardest moments of their lives.

With that said, I DO NOT think that Rafe should become Sami's childrens primary caregiver/father figure. The word "stepfather" keeps getting thrown around, but he is not even that to these children. He is their mother's boyfriend. He should not be caring for the kids every need like he has in the past. These children have Lucas and EJ as their fathers. I understand that Lucas and EJ may not always be emotionally available, but they love their children and should be written to be more involved then they are. I think that it was poor judgement to have mom's boyfriend move into the home. I don't think that Rafe is intentionally overstepping his boundaries as a father figure but, in my opinion this character is being written to play too large of a role in Will,Allie,Johnny, and now Sydney's lives. I agree that he should have cared for Grace because she didn't have a father figure in her life. JMO!

Like I said, I think that the flaws in this storyline are because these people are being written out of character not because of wrong intentions or lack of caring.


In a way I agree with a portion of what you are saying but I also understand that it really isn't up to those fathers to tell the mother who she should live with or love for that matter. Perfect example is how attached Chloe and Allie got and how much Lucas now blames himself for that and it was REALLY not his fault. Sami although never liking Chloe very much didn't stop Allie from attaching herself to Chloe because in the end Lucas allowed it to happen. I think letting Rafe move in WAS very much in character with Sami, she's let Brandon and Austin move in with her and Will even if Lucas protested he really couldn't do much about it except to remind Sami that if he ever heard Will call Brandon daddy that the agreement for joint custody would be out the window. I feel that is what will happen when EJ finds out about Sydney, he really won't have a say in it, so he's a Dimera and he will find a way to actually get Rafe away from Sydney..hence getting him away from Sami too.
LuvinDays
I agree with you all too... I think Rafe should definately have a place in the children's lives. I like Rafe and think he is a good influence on the kids. I just think that he was written to take over some fatherly roles that I would have rather seen Lucas and EJ do.

I agree that Rafe has been wonderful to the children and think that he will continue to do so.
BMoreBabe
FINALLY!!!!!! The baby switch is over lalalala!!!! I'm singing my happy song right now!!! The only part that makes me sad is that Nicole has to go to jail!!! Why is it that the only people who have gone to jail for their crimes lately are Nicole and Lucas?? Two people who could esentially keep Ejami apart. I don't know it just seems like Ej can do whatever to whoever and not even get a slap on the wrist!! I do however think Nicole does deserve to go to jail tho!! You can't steal someone's baby and get away with it!!

Other than that I am pretty happy with how the s/l is going to go!! I could care less who Sami ends up with, as long as it isn't EJ!! I just don't want those two together!! They kinda annoy me when their together. I can stand Sami atleast when she isn't with him. Maybe it's b/c I don't want EJ to have anyone but me!! That is unless they found someone who could treat him right, oh and since he is so hott I think he should have a girl who is just as sexy as he is. Not that AS isn't pretty, I just think she is too girl next door for him, he needs like sexpot not girl next door! I dunno I just really don't want them to get together, and if Rafe keeps that from happening so be it. Not that I like Rafe, but I would rather see Safe than Ejami!

I can't wait to see what really happens!! Bring it on DAys I ready for ya!!!
tylersmom
QUOTE (BMoreBabe @ Oct 21 2009, 02:38 PM) *
FINALLY!!!!!! The baby switch is over lalalala!!!! I'm singing my happy song right now!!! The only part that makes me sad is that Nicole has to go to jail!!! Why is it that the only people who have gone to jail for their crimes lately are Nicole and Lucas?? Two people who could esentially keep Ejami apart. I don't know it just seems like Ej can do whatever to whoever and not even get a slap on the wrist!! I do however think Nicole does deserve to go to jail tho!! You can't steal someone's baby and get away with it!!

Other than that I am pretty happy with how the s/l is going to go!! I could care less who Sami ends up with, as long as it isn't EJ!! I just don't want those two together!! They kinda annoy me when their together. I can stand Sami atleast when she isn't with him. Maybe it's b/c I don't want EJ to have anyone but me!! That is unless they found someone who could treat him right, oh and since he is so hott I think he should have a girl who is just as sexy as he is. Not that AS isn't pretty, I just think she is too girl next door for him, he needs like sexpot not girl next door! I dunno I just really don't want them to get together, and if Rafe keeps that from happening so be it. Not that I like Rafe, but I would rather see Safe than Ejami!

I can't wait to see what really happens!! Bring it on DAys I ready for ya!!!

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Valerieplus3
WoooooHoooooo!!!!!!!

I am so darn excited now I can hardly wait to watch!

Sami getting HER baby back is a dream come true! Yipppeeeeeee!!!!!!!

tylersmom
QUOTE (LuvinDays @ Oct 21 2009, 01:18 PM) *
I like the character of Rafe and I think Galen is a great actor. I think that Rafe is really a good person and I like that he was there for Sami and her children during the hardest moments of their lives.

With that said, I DO NOT think that Rafe should become Sami's childrens primary caregiver/father figure. The word "stepfather" keeps getting thrown around, but he is not even that to these children. He is their mother's boyfriend. He should not be caring for the kids every need like he has in the past. These children have Lucas and EJ as their fathers. I understand that Lucas and EJ may not always be emotionally available, but they love their children and should be written to be more involved then they are. I think that it was poor judgement to have mom's boyfriend move into the home. I don't think that Rafe is intentionally overstepping his boundaries as a father figure but, in my opinion this character is being written to play too large of a role in Will,Allie,Johnny, and now Sydney's lives. I agree that he should have cared for Grace because she didn't have a father figure in her life. JMO!

Like I said, I think that the flaws in this storyline are because these people are being written out of character not because of wrong intentions or lack of caring.

I see what you are saying. It seems that they are now writing Sami to be a more mature, unselfish character who puts the well-being of her children before ANYTHING else. With that being said, I do not think that it would be in character for this "new" Sami to have Rafe move back in and pick right back up where they left off. My reasoning is this- First, Sami needs time to bond with Sydney and allow Allie and Will time to bond with her as well. They need to spend time alone together as a family for a little while, as a mother and children, without any interference. Secondly, Sami's children must be dizzy from all the circles they have been spinning in lately- they all lost Grace, Allie lost Chloe, Nicole will now be gone from Johnny's life, Lucas is gone, Rafe moved in and then back out, and so on and so on. Sami's main focus right now, besides bonding with Sydney, should be putting some stability in her children's lives. I agree with everyone that Rafe would make an awesome step-father to Sami's children- just not yet. Rafe and Sami need to resolve the issues between them- the issues that resulted in Rafe moving out- and build a strong, solid relationship before he takes a very active role in her children's lives. I am not saying that Sami shouldn't be around Rafe- just leave the children out of it for the time being. As I said in a previous post, because Rafe is such an honorable person, I see him taking a back seat in Sami's life after the reveal. I can see him telling Sami to go be with her family, he will wait for her. I think that this would also make Rafe's character available for a new storyline involving his youngest sister when she arrives in Salem.
bigrafefan
QUOTE (tylerandconnersmom @ Oct 21 2009, 04:49 PM) *
I see what you are saying. It seems that they are now writing Sami to be a more mature, unselfish character who puts the well-being of her children before ANYTHING else. With that being said, I do not think that it would be in character for this "new" Sami to have Rafe move back in and pick right back up where they left off. My reasoning is this- First, Sami needs time to bond with Sydney and allow Allie and Will time to bond with her as well. They need to spend time alone together as a family for a little while, as a mother and children, without any interference. Secondly, Sami's children must be dizzy from all the circles they have been spinning in lately- they all lost Grace, Allie lost Chloe, Nicole will now be gone from Johnny's life, Lucas is gone, Rafe moved in and then back out, and so on and so on. Sami's main focus right now, besides bonding with Sydney, should be putting some stability in her children's lives. I agree with everyone that Rafe would make an awesome step-father to Sami's children- just not yet. Rafe and Sami need to resolve the issues between them- the issues that resulted in Rafe moving out- and build a strong, solid relationship before he takes a very active role in her children's lives. I am not saying that Sami shouldn't be around Rafe- just leave the children out of it for the time being. As I said in a previous post, because Rafe is such an honorable person, I see him taking a back seat in Sami's life after the reveal. I can see him telling Sami to go be with her family, he will wait for her. I think that this would also make Rafe's character available for a new storyline involving his youngest sister when she arrives in Salem.


I agree with some of this and disagree with others. I do think that Rafe will encourage special bonding time between Sydney, Sami, Johnny, Allie, & Will. But I do think he'll step back in her life, I don't think she'll want him too. He's been gone for a month. And they have been broke up for 3 months, I think she thought she would be okay with him leaving Salem. But she wasn't, he laid very heavily on her heart, and it was evident. He is not her whole life, but he's a big part of it. He has always encourage her putting her children above him, and I think he will continue to do so.

I don't think him moving in is a good ideal either. They do have some trust issues to work on, even though Meridith's influence on that will greatly be diminished. But the trust issue that is the biggest is not hers with him, but more of his trust in her, his trust that he can tell her anything. She may encourage him to move in, but I think his answer may be no-- let's take it slow.
sofasu
QUOTE (ladyvictoria29 @ Oct 20 2009, 08:16 PM) *
Didn't KC tell us their would be an explosive ending to this s/l. Has that changed or are they holding out on us?
Anyone got any ideas!
I for one am glad this s/l is over but my goodness....back to snore fest and probably less time seeing little sydney. Oh I will miss the excitment that once was dool. I hope vivian and ej going dark can keep me tuned in because safe is going to have me FF again.

I'm so with you. Hope Carly gets the hots for Rafe. That would make me happy. At least
we will be seeing EJ and Sami together with the kids....hope Rafe doesn't interfere with
that.
saved
I think that Tomlin is all about ******* off the majority of the audience while throwing them bones every once in awhile to keep them tuning in. Tomlin is not about happiness and roses he is about angst and anger. There is really not one happy couple on Days right now. Danloe is it and that is just recently.

So I am not counting on any lovestory to burst forth on screen anytime soon.
ladyvictoria29
You know I would have no problem with rafe, as a boyfriend and as a stepfather, if he would do what is right by sami and marry her instead of shacking up with her. I don;t trust a man that won't commit and I definatly would not let him consider himself a stepfather of my children if he wasn't even my hsuband.
He can't be a step father until h marries sami and right now he wants to have his milk for free..so to speak.
Now if they want to refer to him as uncle rafe or sugar daddy rafe until he walks her down the aisle I am ok with that.
lusciouslizardlips
I know EJ is going to disown Stefano but we should all know how long that will be. Does anyone think he will tell EJ he should help Nicole? I just think that once Ari is about to come back after having her baby that Stefano will talk EJ into helping get out of jail. I think Stefano is going to be pulling for EJ and Nicole to get back together.
ImLuvinEJ
I wonder if KC big twist is that they will find out thru the DNA testing that Allie is also EJ's child, Kate and Stephano both worked together to change the DNA. Stephano wanted the DeMira boy and Kate wanted Lucas to have something. Lucas will be devasted, EJ would be mad as hell and Sami realizes that EJ is now the father to 3 of her 4 children. EJ also realizes that Samantha was right in keeping Grace away...it was not that he was/is a bad father but because of his father. Sami and EJ try to bond with Sydney and become closer. Sami has some guilt about Grace and missing her.

I just wish that either John or Marlena or both come back and help Sami.
LuvingLUMI
QUOTE (ImLuvinEJ @ Oct 22 2009, 09:22 AM) *
I wonder if KC big twist is that they will find out thru the DNA testing that Allie is also EJ's child, Kate and Stephano both worked together to change the DNA. Stephano wanted the DeMira boy and Kate wanted Lucas to have something. Lucas will be devasted, EJ would be mad as hell and Sami realizes that EJ is now the father to 3 of her 4 children. EJ also realizes that Samantha was right in keeping Grace away...it was not that he was/is a bad father but because of his father. Sami and EJ try to bond with Sydney and become closer. Sami has some guilt about Grace and missing her.

I just wish that either John or Marlena or both come back and help Sami.

Anything can happen but I see Johnny being Lucas'. I say this for very obvious reasons....2 DNA tests (one conducted by Nick without anyone's knowledge and one conducted by Rolf-the Dimera doc himself) said that both kids were Lucas'. Once the twins were born Kate/Stefano got to the DNA results before Marlena or anyone else. Why this is? Well Stefano wanted to raise a Brady child as a Dimera and Kate wanted to make sure there was an obstacle to whatever future Sami and Lucas had and that obstacle would be EJ being the father of one of the twins...hence they made EJ the father of Johnny. I wouldn't be too surprised if once Sydney is back in Sami's arms and she finds out that Stefano had a hand in holding back the information from EJ/Sami that Sami orders DNA testing on all her children and that it turns out that Johnny was never EJ's to begin with and that Stefano doctored the tests in order to have him raised a Dimera...this would leave EJ devastated and it would also solve a portion of the "rape" dilemna...making Johnny Lucas' would help the situation somewhat because what happened on 12/29 shouldn't have produced a child. I firmly believe the scene last week where EJ takes Johnny in his arms and tells him, "At least I still have you" is foreshadowing that he won't have him soon...weather by a custody battle or by finding out the true father...something will happen.
kayc
QUOTE (LuvingLUMI @ Oct 22 2009, 10:06 AM) *
Anything can happen but I see Johnny being Lucas'. I say this for very obvious reasons....2 DNA tests (one conducted by Nick without anyone's knowledge and one conducted by Rolf-the Dimera doc himself) said that both kids were Lucas'. Once the twins were born Kate/Stefano got to the DNA results before Marlena or anyone else. Why this is? Well Stefano wanted to raise a Brady child as a Dimera and Kate wanted to make sure there was an obstacle to whatever future Sami and Lucas had and that obstacle would be EJ being the father of one of the twins...hence they made EJ the father of Johnny. I wouldn't be too surprised if once Sydney is back in Sami's arms and she finds out that Stefano had a hand in holding back the information from EJ/Sami that Sami orders DNA testing on all her children and that it turns out that Johnny was never EJ's to begin with and that Stefano doctored the tests in order to have him raised a Dimera...this would leave EJ devastated and it would also solve a portion of the "rape" dilemna...making Johnny Lucas' would help the situation somewhat because what happened on 12/29 shouldn't have produced a child. I firmly believe the scene last week where EJ takes Johnny in his arms and tells him, "At least I still have you" is foreshadowing that he won't have him soon...weather by a custody battle or by finding out the true father...something will happen.


I always thought Nick's test was the only one not lied about. Why would he lie, he wasn't vindictive like that. I too have seen some forshadowing. EJ saying that Johnny is all he has left, Sami saying she can't protect Johnny but she can the rest of her children. Tell me something might happen with Johnny. Notice they haven't recasted Johnny yet and they are getting new girls to play Allie? We all know Sami is getting her baby back and reuniting with Rafe so EJ's gonna have to fight her for custody. He might go crazy or superevil because he had his own blood child right there in his home and he kicked her out. His wife switching the babies will look bad when he tries to get custody because lawyers can make it look like he knew all along and tried to take Sami's baby from her.
LuvingLUMI
QUOTE (kayc @ Oct 22 2009, 10:35 AM) *
I always thought Nick's test was the only one not lied about. Why would he lie, he wasn't vindictive like that. I too have seen some forshadowing. EJ saying that Johnny is all he has left, Sami saying she can't protect Johnny but she can the rest of her children. Tell me something might happen with Johnny. Notice they haven't recasted Johnny yet and they are getting new girls to play Allie? We all know Sami is getting her baby back and reuniting with Rafe so EJ's gonna have to fight her for custody. He might go crazy or superevil because he had his own blood child right there in his home and he kicked her out. His wife switching the babies will look bad when he tries to get custody because lawyers can make it look like he knew all along and tried to take Sami's baby from her.

I am almost certain that the true reason why Ej turns his back on his father is because he finds out that his father held the truth that Johnny wasn't his son...plus his father's involvement with Nicole and the switch....something is bound to happen to Johnny....why does Sami keep on saying that it's too late for Johnny but she'll do anything to protect any other children....I see Johnny getting caught up in a drug war thing and needing a transfusion or something and Ej isn't a match....
ladyvictoria29
What I want to happen ...is for allie to be ej's...but I can see them going either way.

I have also thought and worried that ej telling johnny that, felt like a foreshadowing. I think that it depends on what they have in store for BD. I mean if they want sami to be with rafe, some of her kids have to be minus a dad. so if something happened to BD and he is gone(which would break my heart) it would open up rafe to be sami's true love and they would find out that allie is Lucas' and sydney is not the ejamlet. If they want ej to be sami's true love(please let it happen dool)then allie has to be ej and sydney the ejamlet.

Because come on, sami pregnant again with rafe's baby would just be way over the top.
LuvingLUMI
QUOTE (ladyvictoria29 @ Oct 22 2009, 11:26 AM) *
What I want to happen ...is for allie to be ej's...but I can see them going either way.

I have also thought and worried that ej telling johnny that, felt like a foreshadowing. I think that it depends on what they have in store for BD. I mean if they want sami to be with rafe, some of her kids have to be minus a dad. so if something happened to BD and he is gone(which would break my heart) it would open up rafe to be sami's true love and they would find out that allie is Lucas' and sydney is not the ejamlet. If they want ej to be sami's true love(please let it happen dool)then allie has to be ej and sydney the ejamlet.

Because come on, sami pregnant again with rafe's baby would just be way over the top.

Well I'm a Lumi which is why I see it that Johnny is Lucas' and not EJ's but it can go either way...don't forget that BD's contract does expire in February but JS' contract isn't too far behind either...so they can decide to renew both...leaving things the way they are OR let one of the other or BOTH go...leaving Sami with Rafe and a back from the dead Emily as their interloper....it's sad if they get rid of BD, he's one of the few faces we recognize still on Days and I know you like EJ but you have to admit that Sami seems to be Sami when she's around Lucas...they just aren't themselves when they are with others.... I like EJ as evil...but you never know..from his past conversations and the fact that he said he wasn't happy JS has always given me the impression that he might not stay past his current contract, he seems to have made a name of himself at DOOL so DOOL might need him more than he needs DOOL so he might just decide to jump to the big screen after this....
tylersmom
I can see what everyone is saying in all of the above posts, but I really hope none of this happens. I have really had enough with all of these paternity issues for a while!!!! Leave all of the children alone for a little while, stop causing upheaval in their lives!!! Hey writers- pick on someone your own size!!!

As for EJ's meltdown, I see Sami as being the one there to help him through it- just as she was there for Lucas when he needed her. I see Sami as still having some kind of feelings for EJ, possibly simply because they share a child. I didn't say she is in love with him so please don't bash me. I say this because the other day, when EJ threw Sami out of the mansion, she hesitated at the doorway. She didn't want to go and, by the look on her face, it seemed as though it was really hurting her to see him so angry and in so much pain. From the looks she has been giving EJ lately, she seems to really have sympathy for him. JMO
Lorijean0
QUOTE (tylerandconnersmom @ Oct 22 2009, 11:56 AM) *
I can see what everyone is saying in all of the above posts, but I really hope none of this happens. I have really had enough with all of these paternity issues for a while!!!! Leave all of the children alone for a little while, stop causing upheaval in their lives!!! Hey writers- pick on someone your own size!!!

As for EJ's meltdown, I see Sami as being the one there to help him through it- just as she was there for Lucas when he needed her. I see Sami as still having some kind of feelings for EJ, possibly simply because they share a child. I didn't say she is in love with him so please don't bash me. I say this because the other day, when EJ threw Sami out of the mansion, she hesitated at the doorway. She didn't want to go and, by the look on her face, it seemed as though it was really hurting her to see him so angry and in so much pain. From the looks she has been giving EJ lately, she seems to really have sympathy for him. JMO


I dont think that is sympathy as I do pity. She feels sorry for Ej. "You keep throwing people out of this house and your gonna find yourself all alone" Sami has done her share of pushing people away, she knows what it is like to be alone.
LuvingLUMI
QUOTE (Lorijean0 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:05 PM) *
I dont think that is sympathy as I do pity. She feels sorry for Ej. "You keep throwing people out of this house and [b]your gonna find yourself all alone"[/b] Sami has done her share of pushing people away, she knows what it is like to be alone.

I bet you this is what leads to his breakdown....he will be without Sydney without Nicole and even without fatha...and I only hope that by the time the reveal happens something will come out to make him lose Johnny....then and only then will I have any type of sympathy for Ej...he needs to pay for all he's done and if it's not through jailtime then it's this way...feeling alone, miserable, unloved and with no one to turn to.
BMoreBabe
QUOTE (ladyvictoria29 @ Oct 21 2009, 08:01 PM) *
You know I would have no problem with rafe, as a boyfriend and as a stepfather, if he would do what is right by sami and marry her instead of shacking up with her. I don;t trust a man that won't commit and I definatly would not let him consider himself a stepfather of my children if he wasn't even my hsuband.
He can't be a step father until h marries sami and right now he wants to have his milk for free..so to speak.
Now if they want to refer to him as uncle rafe or sugar daddy rafe until he walks her down the aisle I am ok with that.



You don't have to be married to be a family. My boyfriend and i have been together going on seen years, with no plans to marry anytime soon. We have a child and my boyfriend has a son from a previous relationship. His son considers me a stepmom. He has since my bf and I got serious. I don't see why everyone is so hell bent that Rafe marry Sami. They are happy with the way things are and just b/c you don't marry someone doesn't mean you love them any less. If they are happy, why fix what ain't broken?!
Princess_Jenna
QUOTE (LuvingLUMI @ Oct 22 2009, 10:51 AM) *
I bet you this is what leads to his breakdown....he will be without Sydney without Nicole and even without fatha...and I only hope that by the time the reveal happens something will come out to make him lose Johnny....then and only then will I have any type of sympathy for Ej...he needs to pay for all he's done and if it's not through jailtime then it's this way...feeling alone, miserable, unloved and with no one to turn to.

So Luvin, if this all happens, would this be enough for you to consider EJ redeemed if he came out of it totally different?
mouse57
QUOTE (BMoreBabe @ Oct 22 2009, 12:29 PM) *
You don't have to be married to be a family. My boyfriend and i have been together going on seen years, with no plans to marry anytime soon. We have a child and my boyfriend has a son from a previous relationship. His son considers me a stepmom. He has since my bf and I got serious. I don't see why everyone is so hell bent that Rafe marry Sami. They are happy with the way things are and just b/c you don't marry someone doesn't mean you love them any less. If they are happy, why fix what ain't broken?!

there is nothing wrong with getting married.
it's a good thing smile.gif

but you are right, you are a family that way too
kayc
QUOTE (LuvingLUMI @ Oct 22 2009, 11:36 AM) *
Well I'm a Lumi which is why I see it that Johnny is Lucas' and not EJ's but it can go either way...don't forget that BD's contract does expire in February but JS' contract isn't too far behind either...so they can decide to renew both...leaving things the way they are OR let one of the other or BOTH go...leaving Sami with Rafe and a back from the dead Emily as their interloper....it's sad if they get rid of BD, he's one of the few faces we recognize still on Days and I know you like EJ but you have to admit that Sami seems to be Sami when she's around Lucas...they just aren't themselves when they are with others.... I like EJ as evil...but you never know..from his past conversations and the fact that he said he wasn't happy JS has always given me the impression that he might not stay past his current contract, he seems to have made a name of himself at DOOL so DOOL might need him more than he needs DOOL so he might just decide to jump to the big screen after this....

On Dool anything can happen but I don't think they will make Allie EJ's. If they were going to go that route I would think they would have done that a long time ago before Rafe came in the picture and totally cut Lucas off from Sami (not really because they have Will) but at least with a little child. I think right now they are going with Safe. Will it last I don't know. They have no connection, no children and I don't see Sami having anymore kids (please no). I can however see Sami and Rafe reconnecting over Sydney because that is supposed to be the baby she was carrying when she fell in love with Rafe in the safehouse. But no I don't see Allie being made a Dimera...just not gonna happen. Now Johnny is another story because his conception was always a question. I wouldn't be too bummed if you like Ejami. There is still Sydney they would share they just wouldn't be together.
LuvingLUMI
QUOTE (kayc @ Oct 22 2009, 02:55 PM) *
On Dool anything can happen but I don't think they will make Allie EJ's. If they were going to go that route I would think they would have done that a long time ago before Rafe came in the picture and totally cut Lucas off from Sami (not really because they have Will) but at least with a little child. I think right now they are going with Safe. Will it last I don't know. They have no connection, no children and I don't see Sami having anymore kids (please no). I can however see Sami and Rafe reconnecting over Sydney because that is supposed to be the baby she was carrying when she fell in love with Rafe in the safehouse. But no I don't see Allie being made a Dimera...just not gonna happen. Now Johnny is another story because his conception was always a question. I wouldn't be too bummed if you like Ejami. There is still Sydney they would share they just wouldn't be together.

No please....I will never like Ejami....that just gives me the heebe jeebes..
LuvingLUMI
QUOTE (Princess_Jenna @ Oct 22 2009, 01:34 PM) *
So Luvin, if this all happens, would this be enough for you to consider EJ redeemed if he came out of it totally different?

He still needs to be remorseful which is what has always bothered me about Ej...maybe it's just the way he was meant to be given his Dimera roots but I can't imagine someone always doing bad stuff and Never, ever second guessing what they did, only ones are Kate and Stefano, even Victor at times has done good stuff for his love of Caroline...
bowiehs
QUOTE (HAS @ Oct 20 2009, 11:38 PM) *
counted.



and rubbing his hands together as he figures out who to kidnap, torture, attempt to kill, or brainwash next.

uh oh. Rafe! Rafe! Don't look at the card! Don't look at the card!



Justin Timberlake! I'd name a song but I have no idea what he sings. lol.
It is a male singer but he is much younger then he is tongue.gif
kayc
QUOTE (LuvingLUMI @ Oct 22 2009, 03:37 PM) *
No please....I will never like Ejami....that just gives me the heebe jeebes..

Well you gotta at least give em one kid for all their effort. Just don't put them together. rolling.gif
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