" 'Heroes' looks at the end

By AMANDA MELILLO

Last Updated: 5:02 AM, October 30, 2009

Posted: 1:56 AM, October 30, 2009
NBC's "<p> </p><br>Heroes" might have to prepare for its final chapter.<p> </p><br> The network is reportedly pressuring producers to start winding down the show about characters with superhuman powers -- and may possibly even want a series finale ready for May.<p> </p><br> "There isn't much happening with this show in terms of audience, and giving it a 'final chapter' feel is something the network is considering to help allow the show to go out with a bang," an NBC source told the Web site Airlock Alpha.<p> </p><br> "Heroes" got a lot of hype and had a successful first season -- but its ratings steadily declined for the next three seasons.<p> </p><br> This season, called "Redemption," was supposed to be a shot for writers to revamp the storylines -- but the show has seen its smallest audience yet. "Heroes" is now one of NBC's lowest-rated shows, and has consistently finished last in viewership in its timeslot.<p> </p><br> NBC has yet to make a final decision on the fate of the show, which it will probably do around mid-season. --<p> </p><br>

NBC's "Heroes" might have to prepare for its final chapter.

The network is reportedly pressuring producers to start winding down the show about characters with superhuman powers -- and may possibly even want a series finale ready for May.

"There isn't much happening with this show in terms of audience, and giving it a 'final chapter' feel is something the network is considering to help allow the show to go out with a bang," an NBC source told the Web site Airlock Alpha.

"Heroes" got a lot of hype and had a successful first season -- but its ratings steadily declined for the next three seasons.

This season, called "Redemption," was supposed to be a shot for writers to revamp the storylines -- but the show has seen its smallest audience yet. "Heroes" is now one of NBC's lowest-rated shows, and has consistently finished last in viewership in its timeslot.

NBC has yet to make a final decision on the fate of the show, which it will probably do around mid-season. --"

Link for those who want it. http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/h...W5IvBVLJH8Xa0YP


So basically now there is actually word that it could end. What do you think about it? Does it make you happier, sadder? Will you buy more Heroes items (dvds, action figures, shirts)? What do you want heroes to do before it finishes, whether it be this season of next season? How do you want it to end?

I'm some-what happy about it. Now the writers must do certain things they've always wanted to. They know when they might leave and must finish and conclude stories. I have taken the mentality of Lost. They creators know how the show should end. So they make a timeline. So all the viewers know they did not get shafted because of ratings. The viewers know that everything is conclude that should be. It wraps up anything that needs to end.

For me Heroes must do three things. First, give Peter back his power and make him super-power again. Second, SHOW an all out Peter-Sylar fight. Third Hiro must become the Samurai badass from FYG. All the writers need to stop trying to fix the past or be in the past. Just make things like FYG, that should be the goal. Those are the three must. I'd like to see HRG get back with his wife. Claire's character needs to disappear into regular life. Her transfer to being a regular person should be more complete. Mohinder needs to be concluded he is just left open. It feels really weird.I still want to see a paternity test on Parkman's kid. Samuel and his carnival, I have no idea how to rap them up. Edgar gets more screen time. They need to deal with Tracy other sister (Barbara, does she have a power, basically?). And do I recall that the doctor said he created them? So they need to fix that natural v. created powers. Angela starts a new company headed by HRG and the Haitian. Sylar become his killing self and is killed by Peter.






My ending episode/story arc: The Past Futures are Present

Mohinder discovers the way to give Peter his power back by finishing his father's research. He also find a way to cure himself. He watches over Molly from time to time. She stays with a Nathan's ex-wife and her children. Mohinder meets with Peter in NYC and give him his powers back. Claude never really left NYC and tells Peter to travel back in time to regain his older powers. Claude says Charles told him this moment was to come and that it was Peter's destiny. After failing to save Charlie, Hiro travels to Japan to learn the sword and become a Samurai. He leaves Ando to his life and marriage with Kimko. Hiro trains under a mysterious man, Takezo Kensei/Adam Monroe. It turns out Adam Monroe's power returned once Arthur died. Adam realized that only Hiro could save the world and decide to train him for it. Peter's power did not return because the Haitian was in the room when Arthur was killed. So it blocked the powers returning to Peter. It turns out toPeter travels to Japan meets Hiro they go back in to season 1. Hiro tells Peter he must save the cheerleader to save the world. At this time Hiro is the Hiro from FYG. Previously Peter fought Edgar and got his scar.Peter absorbs he previous powers, and return to the future all powered up.

While Peter and Hiro were in the past and training, Sylar started killing people again. Sylar still disguises himself as Nathan for political reasons, but he is not president yet. The government has discovered that Sylar's killings are supernatural. Now they are killing some of the SG. Angela had HRG and the Haitian set up a new company to help hide people from Sylar and the government.Parkman has completely lost himself to Sylar. Sylar started his murders by killing Matty Jr. and taking his power. Peter returns from the past. HRG tells him that a Sylar copycat appeared. Peter has his doubts about a copycat. Hiro and Peter raid government buildings housing SG. Claire was in one of them. Peter wants to take her far away.She won't leave till she tells her Dad good bye.

It turns out some of the carnies are informants for the government. Parkman uses his power to force them to give up locations. Sylar then hunts down the SG and collects powers. HRG is being a detective and trying to find Sylar. It leads him to the carnival, which traveled. He brings the Haitian, Peter, who brings Claire, and Hiro. Sylar brings his army, of Parkman, Edgar, Tracy, who believes he is Nathan, and Becky. Lydia has run away with her daughter to a normal life. She lost her will to stay at the carnival after the death of Samuel. Samuel's death was hard on Sylar and the rest of the carnival. It was right before Sylar returned to serial killing, it is potentially the catalyst for Sylar's actions. Samuel was assassinated by Monica who willingly obeys Mrs. Petrelli (Maybe I'm not should how Samuel should die.)

HRG and the Haitian go after Parkman and Tracy, a shoot out begins. The Haitian uses his power on Matt and HRG kills him. Tracy is convinced of her mistrust, when Nathan turns into Sylar. Becky attacks Claire, a fist fight where Claire gets lucky and defeats Becky. Peter and Hiro fight Sylar and Edgar. This is the epic big battle, full special effects everything, the works. The outcome, Hiro kills Edgar, while Edgar kills Hiro. Peter kills Sylar after knowing what he did to Nathan.

Epilogue: In the End, all you need is Love (roughly a year or so later)

Peter is leading a resist with HRG against the government. There is reform, but it is mainly a pleak future without hope. Peter visits Angela's grave, next to Nathan's. Claire is with him. The pay their respects. HRG and the Haitian are writing up plans on rescuing a group of SG. Tracy is out cast from the world of the SG and the government distrust her for being an SG and working for a serial killer. Adam Monroe and Claude retreat to being hermits. Mohinder is working as a doctor at the government camps, rescuing SG. He is part of the resistance.

Ending Scene: Peter says something prophetic about the duality of life, death, power, no power, helping, and abandonment. The camera zooms out. It appears Peter is talking to Claire, HRG, the Haitian, Mohinder, Ando other heroes/people who joined the resist.


Peter, Claire, and Adam live forever. Peter and Claire are the closest two people can be, a platonic love. Adam does not remember or know about them.

The thought disgusts me, and there is no way for them to build to any kind of decent series ending this year. It feels like they have barely started, and with NBC in the sorry state it is in, I can't imagine them actually cancelling Heroes. Even critics are talking about its improvements, no way the network can be this short sighted.

http://tv.spreadit.org/heroes-cancelled/

NBC confirmed they were not talking about canceling the show. It's a rumor.

Heroes will not be cancelled.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/renewcancel-nbc-shows

As much as I hate to say it the only way I realistically seeing the series ending is with another eclipse episode.because as long as there are SGs there will be conflicting interests and eventual battles.u can take out all the petrellis sylar Claire and the carnies but there will still b people wanting more power and controll out there somewhere.with an eclipse episode they have the ability to take out all the SGs in one swoop.it would b a terrible and depressing episode where it ends with people realizing that even tho they were extrodinary humans they were still humans but that's the only way I see the series being able to compleatly die because if there are still people with abilities there can still b story.and I'll still b interested.

I want to throw up.

If they cancel the show, I'll probably stop watching TV altogether. It wouldn't be in some type of attempt to get the show renewed by boycotting the network, but the cancellation would be so devastating that I would lose all faith in the ability for networks to let shows finish. Too many times have I got really interested in a series(especially serialized shows) only to see them get cancelled before the writers got to finish their story. I hate when that happens. I die a little inside every time. And with Heroes being my favorite show, it would be the nail in the coffin.

i heard that they had planed to cancel chuck, show that came on before heroes.
but, a petition got started to save the show
and now chuck will be back later in the year
so if push comes to shove,
we can save the show!

First off, sorry about hte complete wall of text I gave you.




This is just speculation. The site says "Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation..." Their site made these predicts, no one from NBC was referenced at all.



do you have a link?




I pray it does not come to that. But I will sign it if it does.

http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/6824

It's written under the title.

And considering this article was written before yours, I suspect NY Post was just taking the rumor off other sites, even though those sites eventually posted an update saying it was denied by execs.

I wouldn't be sad, but I wouldn't be happy either.

And it does have to end sometime.

What I think must happen:

1)Sylar Dies
2)Peter vs Sylar showdown
3)Sylar becomes President
4)Some sort of plague spread by the governemt linked to people with powers---the reason why rounding them up and killing them starts. Those who join the government are granted freedom as long as they track down and capture/skill others (Civil War type storyline)

Other than that, really I don't care---writers do what you want with all the other sub-character storylines, but plz, when someone dies...for GODS SAKE leave them dead.

Networks are tight-lipped about such things for good reason. Until such time as an official announcement is made it will all be speculation.

Networks also lie. Spokesmen spout crap about how they strongly support the creative direction bla bla bla, then cancel the show a week later.

Heroes ratings are not great (consistently #4 in time slot) but NBC is just awful across the board. Among NBC shows, Heroes is doing pretty well. If I were an NBC Exec I would cancel/replace a couple of my REALLY bad shows before canceling Heroes. They have several others doing worse.

I think the mods need to merge all the cancellation rumor threads....ya have at least 1 here in General....2 others over in the Spoilers section....do we really need all these threads about basically the same topic?

At this point Heroes seems safe for a little while (imo).

NBC hasn't developed any new hit shows is a while. If say Southland and Trauma would have become hits then suddenly Heroes goes on the bubble when NBS looks to place their new shows next season.

With the improved quality this year, the high DVR numbers, and stong online following I think its got some staying power.

Southland was canceled and a deal is in the works to move it to TNT

The show will not be canceled. Airlock Alpha is one of those negative writers about the show and they will say anything to prove their point. The columnist has never had nor never will have anything good to say about Heroes; so he's only reporting what he thinks is the truth because he wants it to be the truth. Heroes still has a good 2 or seasons left in it. I'm not ready to say goodbye to the characters or the show yet because there's still lots to tell.

I don't see the show being canceled, but I do see it coming to an end within the next few years. All shows end and I've never seen Heroes as a one of those shows that can go on and on.

The Times was basing their story on a rumor printed by a blog called Airlock Alpha.

NBC has already stated, and the numbers (both official viewership and NBC's own count of alternative forms of viewing) indicate, that Heroes is not being cancelled.

while I dont think so, if the ratings continue to fall the show will get cancelled no doubt..

Would you explain that comment?

Because, since the 2nd week, ratings have been climbing, not falling. Thus "continue to fall" is a ridiculous comment to make.

And, I reiterate: Airlock Alpha made an unverified post about a rumor that had not been confirmed, and tried to play it as fact. Within hours NBC had confirmed that his report was trash. The viewers have been climbing, the ratings have held steady, and the show is seeing it's best writing since S1.

Interestingly enough I think Heroes is exactly the kind of show that can go on and on.

There are litterally no limits. The aren't pinned down by location (the ER, a cattle ranch, a courthouse, the beach, etc.) and they have built in reasons for characters to cycle in and out of the storylines. Couple that with thousands of volumes of nearly untapped inspiration in comics written over the last 50 years and I'd say Heroes is the perfect formula for a show to go on and on.

I do think NBC will lose patience with it eventually even if it continues to improve but Scyfy or some other cable network could get a decade more out of Heroes if they're willing. Just look at what the CW has managed to pull off with Smallville - who knew that would still be on this long.

I have loved this show from the very beginning, and it is my favorite show that I am currently watching, which includes; Dexter, Weeds, Nurse Jackie, Desperate Housewives, Dancing with the Stars, and Supernatural. When I heard this drivel that Alpha Airlock put out, I was devastated! How could NBC cancel one of the best shows I've seen in a long time?! This show has so much potential, and has done so many awesome things, how could they possibly cancel it after only 4 seasons? I am still beside myself and will be until I know for sure that I will get a Season 5 of Heroes! I have started a sort of petition on IMDb for people to respond to if they want to see a Season 5, btw.
In my opinion, this show should at least have a run of 7 seasons (which is a respectable run for a series), if not more. I would also like to add a comment for the people at NBC who are in charge of what shows stay and go, assuming they care enough about their fans to actually read what we have to say- Canceling Heroes would be a very stupid mistake! This show has tons of fans that are very loyal to it. NBC chose to air a show that is based on the elements of comic books, which a lot of people don't accept; this show is not for everyone, and a lot of the fans that have abandoned the show are not comic fans. The people that still watch Heroes most likely are, and we are a hard-core, loyal group. I care about every character and story-line on this show, and I will see it to the end. However, this season does not feel at all like an end to me. If Heroes were to end after this season, it would be a major rip off and a slap in the face to those of us that have dedicated 4 years to this show, bought the DVD's, and countless merchandise relating to the show. NBC execs, you cannot do that to your fanbase!
In addition, I am also a big fan of The Office and 30 Rock- I had planned on buying the DVD's of both shows- and I have also watched Days of our Lives faithfully for nearly 15 years, however, my liking of those show will not be able to over-shadow the disdain I will have for NBC if they cancel my favorite show. I attest that I will no longer watch another show on this network as long as I live, if their decision is to pull the plug on Heroes.

I agree with you that Heroes is probably not on the chopping block, but overall the numbers have been pretty steady. Maybe a gradual increase (which is certainly better than a gradual decrease) but nothing that is trending it back into "hit" status. What has Heroes been pulling? Typically somwhere in the high 5 range (5.8 or so)? Dancing with the Stars is in the high teens (2.5-3xHeroes). Without getting into another geekazoid numbers comparison, it's hard to spin that as "good."

The real thing keeping Heroes safe is the total inability of NBC to come up with a hit show at this point in time.

SyFy is owned by NBC. If NBC is not bothered to spend the money to put it on NBC, I doubt it would spend the money to make new episodes to put on SyFy.

Also, SyFy will pick up reruns of cancelled network shows (including episodes SHOT by the original networks but never RUN by the original networks) but has been hesitant to accept any deal where they would have to create new episodes. Alot of Jericho fans and Moonlight fans for instance, were hoping SyFy might create new episodes of those shows when it 'picked' them up for re-runs. But it didn't. In fact as I understand it the only new episdoes SyFy ever produces (and I may be wrong on this) are episodes of it's own original series.

And it is hesitant to give up the real estate it could use on its own original series for new episodes of failed network shows.

That being said, I don't know if Heroes is close to cancellation yet. I'm not blind and can see the ratings problems they've been having for some time. But everything on NBC seems to be tanking now and I'm not sure Heroes is their biggest problem at the moment.

Yes, it could get cancelled and I would be prepared for that to happen so it doesn't hit you out of the blue...but I also wouldn't put the nail in it's coffin just yet.

You also have a good point. There are limitless stories to tell with the premise. But only if NBC gives them a chance. I don't think a network jump for new episodes ala Medium is likely. All the other networks seem to be doing quite well without them.

Why are you so crass, please relax your comments. Since, you'll a moderator set the example for the board as how to respond to opposing viewpoints. Can you understand that? My piece.

that is the norm, Synch always attacks those that don't agree with his/her point of view. I've brought this up many times.. MODS need to set examples apparently it doesn't apply to this person

Maybe heroes would gain some round if the episodes weren't so boring.

I've watched since day one and I'm about to turn it off.

You have a cast full of people with superhuman powers....why am I watching all this nonsense about HRG almost cheating on his wife, or claire joining a sorority, or a girl that can hear music...wow...how many episodes will it take to develop an interesting storyline out of THAT character...because so far it is extremely boring, there is way too much boring drama.

If you replaced all of the boring drama with action, which is what a superhero show ought to be about, then you would see the ratings rise again.

I don't want all this lame emotional drama...and I'm sick and tired of "heroes" being so friggin naive all the time. Sure, season 1, I let it slide...they aren't using their abilities cuz this is all new to them and yadda yadda yadda...but NOW...COME ON!! If you have an ability and an opportune time to use it, USE IT!

If you want ratings, give Peter back his full ability and have him battle Sylar FOR REAL THIS TIME, not a scene that cuts away behind a door while we are left to wonder how the battle unfolds. If you want ratings, super. powers. every. single. episode. That is what the show is about. Not looking at pretty colors while you play piano...geez.

I don't think for the moment Heroes is in immediate danger of being on the chopping block because the current programming on NBC schedule is VERY thin. Trauma has already been canned (and honestly, who didn't see that coming?), and Southland is not going to be shown in NBC and was picked up by cable. NBC practically has nothing on the bench and no prospects upcoming to really become a mainstay on the network to replace Heroes should they consider letting it go no matter how badly Heroes does, unless Heroes becomes SO bad it becomes a detriment to the network.

They could always stretch Leno to two hours

Some of you guys mentioned how it has tons of more stories to go. If they canceled the TV show, who you want Heroes to continue in another form, like comic books, or actual books?

I'd love to see it as a comic book. They could finally do all the action fights everyone wants. I know there is the weekly internet comic, but those aren't real comics. Now when I say that, I mean they are based on the episode (normally); they are mostly one shot (single issue stories, unlike 99% of comics today); and they just won't do well until they bridge into regular more mainstream comic books. I'm sure if they wanted to do it they could. Milo has 2 comic books, NBC would just need to ask him to set it up.