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Nicollette78
I think Peter REALLY needs to be able to use more than one power at a time.

I think he has his father's ability. But to retain the abilities his father actually stole them from the origional owner and left them with nothing. I think that may be where Peter is headed. He can borrow them but not keep them without leaving the person stripped of their powers.

I keep wondering why he doesn't look back to what the guy who could go invisible told him. "Your body remembers the powers" Peter isn't applying that the his current situation.

Also, What ever happened to the girl he left in the future????????? He fixed the future and never went back for her. Is she stuck in the horrible future he left her in? or did everything change around her???

They've also forgotten about little Molly. No one is hunting them anymore and still Matt Parkman hasn't brought her home.
psychopathicroc
She's not Matt's to bring home... and she is being well cared for. The future is inaccessible either way, so its probably just another burden Peter carries. Its irrelevent now. And nice theory on Peter's ability, I've been saying that for awhile now!!
GuardianFlash
QUOTE (Nicollette78 @ Nov 5 2009, 12:18 AM) *
I think Peter REALLY needs to be able to use more than one power at a time.

I think he has his father's ability. But to retain the abilities his father actually stole them from the origional owner and left them with nothing. I think that may be where Peter is headed. He can borrow them but not keep them without leaving the person stripped of their powers.

I keep wondering why he doesn't look back to what the guy who could go invisible told him. "Your body remembers the powers" Peter isn't applying that the his current situation.

Also, What ever happened to the girl he left in the future????????? He fixed the future and never went back for her. Is she stuck in the horrible future he left her in? or did everything change around her???

They've also forgotten about little Molly. No one is hunting them anymore and still Matt Parkman hasn't brought her home.


Caitlin is gone 4 ever. This has been disgusted many times. Why all the problem, I don't think Matt would want to bring Molly in. I'm sure Molly speaks Indian now.
Nicollette78
Yeah I guess you both are right about Caitlin being gone. Just sucks for Peter because he keeps losing his girls. I mainly ask because it's like she doesn't exist anymore. Like we haven't heard anything at all as far as Peter coming to terms with it.

I really love the show but its not the same without a Powerful Peter. I hope the writers hurry up and give some positive twist to his powers because there will be no one to face Sylar when he gets his body back.

I'm really interested in hearing other theories on Peter's powers.
Peter_Petrilli
I believe it was another post by someone citing an interview that said, Caitlin is fine, the future just reformed around her. So there. Also I too want Peter to use more then one power, but I want him to have his original power back.
psychopathicroc
Unfortunately, Super Peter is just so ridiculously overpowered that the writers have no idea what to do with him.... this Arthur-Peter thing we have now makes him smarter and easier to plan for.

I know they said the "future reformed around her" but thats bogus, thats not how Heroes time travel works. The new timeline is formed from the moment of the change and wipes out the old time line. The people in the current timeline live their lives from that moment forward. Caitlyn will not be in the present to live. I really doubt she would just materialize out of nowhere a few years in the future. It just wouldn't make sense, theres no way to connect the various branches of the possible timelines, especially after they are overlaid on top of each other.

Caitlin was never that important to Peter; She was an amnesiac Peter's rebound to Simone. He didn't really know her, and wasn't really himself when he did. No one cared for her character to begin with, and its a moot point now.

I just wish Kring had let the virus get out at the end of Vol 2, and assumed that we could all wait 9 months for the cliffhanger. They left us with the Nathan cliffhanger anyways, so why not just finish their story? It would have sucked for that moment in time, but in retrospect (and being able to watch the 2 volumes back to back forever after the fact) would have been much preferable..
SylarBites
QUOTE (psychopathicroc @ Nov 5 2009, 03:02 AM) *
Unfortunately, Super Peter is just so ridiculously overpowered that the writers have no idea what to do with him.... this Arthur-Peter thing we have now makes him smarter and easier to plan for.

I know they said the "future reformed around her" but thats bogus, thats not how Heroes time travel works. The new timeline is formed from the moment of the change and wipes out the old time line.


Yeah, we need to remind this string's starter that Art Petrelli, Pete's dad, basically "de-powered" Pete, his current power is based on 'the formula' and is not the same.

As for Caitlin.....
I'm of the opinion that the 'reality' she was left in disappeared, and she 'woke up' in the exact same location and time Peter put her in, with no memory of how she got there.

Maybe the writers could tie that loose end up -- have her on TV as the new girlfriend of a rock star, maybe?? On tabloid TV as an 'amnesia victim' ???
nwe
QUOTE (psychopathicroc @ Nov 5 2009, 04:02 AM) *
Unfortunately, Super Peter is just so ridiculously overpowered that the writers have no idea what to do with him....


I have never understood this theory. Peter was never any more overpowered than Sylar was/is. Sylar has killed about as many people as Peter has come into contact with anyway. But the fact is, that Peter will never be able to use the powers as well as Sylar can because he doesn't instantly know how the powers work. Keep in mind that Sylars power is knowing how everything works. So technically, when he obtains a power, he knows how to use it even better than the person he stole it from. Peter will never be able to contend with that, no matter how many powers he has. So unless you are also claiming that Sylar is way too overpowered, you can not successfully argue that peter is overpowered.
psychopathicroc
that goes back to, sylar knows how things work, then so should pete. theres not a single person or thing he wouldn't come into contact with and be able to match. sylar has multiple powers that are harder to obtain, peter was much more powerful, and everyone was tired of having to make peter a wuss or a moron, when he was supposed to be the super hero.
Ezhram
QUOTE (psychopathicroc @ Nov 5 2009, 04:02 AM) *
Unfortunately, Super Peter is just so ridiculously overpowered that the writers have no idea what to do with him.... this Arthur-Peter thing we have now makes him smarter and easier to plan for.


I don't think that's the case, I think it's quite opposite. I think that since the show began they've been nerfing Peter and throwing obstacles in his way. I think what the writers have done to Peter was not because they had no idea how to write for him because he was too powerful but that it's simply a case of putting hurdles in front of the hero.

synch
Yeah, but the average viewer apparently doesn't like hurdles.

Amnesia? They hated it.
Everything he went through in S3? They despised it.

I think the writers gave up on giving him hurdles, and simplified his power so that there was no problem with the average viewer following along.
Ezhram
yeah but I don't think they simply gave up on giving him hurdles, I think the hurdle now is frustration over his desire to help people. He had Mohinder's ability and he was fast, but in his mind he wasn't fast enough. So to me this shows his frustration and it's simply another hurdle they put in front of him.
Even the simple fact that he can hold onto only one ability at a time is a hurdle for him because you would think that if he was frustrated that he wasn't fast enough then he must be thinking that if he had more abilities he could save more lives.
psychopathicroc
I would kill for a proper S2 virus story, and that would have given them time to flesh out S3. I loved what COULD have been done (with the future they showed at the beginning of the year, Arthur, and the Gabe/Pete connection) but by halfway through V3 they had screwed up all of their potential.



Still wouldn't have minded seeing Arthur and Sampson go at it fully powered, either... Sylar and Peter both choosing consciously to NOT be like their fathers... something, anything to tell a complete story without jumping around. Lol.
solar_eclipse
QUOTE (synch @ Nov 5 2009, 07:51 PM) *
Yeah, but the average viewer apparently doesn't like hurdles.

Amnesia? They hated it.
Everything he went through in S3? They despised it.

I think the writers gave up on giving him hurdles, and simplified his power so that there was no problem with the average viewer following along.


Ok, so the average viewer can follow along with the whole Sylar/Matt/Nathan mind and body switches? Who is the 'average viewer?'. You can't follow along with Heroes unless you've been watching the whole series, because it will never make any sense if you watch sporadically.

De-powering Peter made the first season of Heroes moot, but so did having Sylar steal Claire's ability. As much as I dislike about everything that happened last season, I just take it for what it is now.


Feral
QUOTE (solar_eclipse @ Nov 5 2009, 09:06 PM) *
Ok, so the average viewer can follow along with the whole Sylar/Matt/Nathan mind and body switches? Who is the 'average viewer?'. You can't follow along with Heroes unless you've been watching the whole series, because it will never make any sense if you watch sporadically.

De-powering Peter made the first season of Heroes moot, but so did having Sylar steal Claire's ability. As much as I dislike about everything that happened last season, I just take it for what it is now.


I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees this! The whole idea of S1 was to stop Sylar getting regen then he gets it anyway. That annoyed me so much. Then when you think, oh wait it's ok because Sylar and Peter are just as overpowered as each other now, BAM bye bye empathic mimicry and Sylar now sits on top of a hill where nobody can reach him.
synch
Actually, the whole of season 1 was to stop him from getting Regen while he was still in danger of destroying the city by using Ted's power.

In case you missed it, he no longer has Ted's power.

And it's quite easy to follow along as long as you begin at the start of the volume. You don't need to start from the beginning of the series. This is Heroes, not Lost.
lleighindiana
I honestly don't think it would be that difficult to have Peter have his original power back. The "potion" may have worked just like the one he was born with--as people have speculated, a connection with his emotions. I don't know. Maybe, as someone put it, he just doesn't know how to kickstart the other powers as Sylar does intuitively. That in itself is a crutch for him. I really didn't think he was "too powerful". As for the girl Peter left in the future--who cares? She was a really boring character smile.gif
BringintheREALfutureHiro
Caitlin was a good match in a post writers strike season 2 . If there was no writers strike we would be all happy with heroes. Forget Caitlin bring back Elle she and Adam were
the reason for watching.
sun41
QUOTE (BringintheREALfutureHiro @ Nov 6 2009, 10:26 AM) *
Caitlin was a good match in a post writers strike season 2 . If there was no writers strike we would be all happy with heroes. Forget Caitlin bring back Elle she and Adam were
the reason for watching.

Peter's already being called the lousy boy friend by some, for just forgetting about Caitlin in light of the whole Hiro/Charlie thing with Hiro going out of his way to save Charlie yet again. It would be nice to find out Peter remember's her, or maybe, some change happen so she's alive. He did open the vault for her geez, to destroy the virus, remember, all that to save her. I miss Adam, but the writer's can bring him back they have an open window, anything is possible with the time traveling effect. Also, making Sylar still have all his abilities, and Peter not, yeah, that's fair.
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